122: Lyle McDonald - The Generic Bulking Routine Part 2

[@ReviveStronger]

Timestamps: 00:36 Lyle continues where he left off and further talks about continuing progressing with exercise selection/variation and the impact of the crossover effect 22:47 Lyle goes back in talking about the setup of the Generic Bulking Routine 36:40 Lyle talks about progressing as an intermediate 57:30 Lyle elaborates how to programme specialisation cycles 01:06:42 Lyle shares his thoughts on advanced trainees and their personal observations

[@phillipho9269]

Steve is such a great listener and host

[@MeleDrummer]

He's the best: humble, respectful and always let's the interviewee expose their views. He's smart too, because he then takes what he agrees on and uses it on his trainees and himself. And let's give some love to Pascal too, because he always edits the videos so nicely for us to enjoy.

[@naxfurxawde7546]

Imagine if this was Michael Matthews:D interrupt every 20 secs

[@ReviveStronger]

Thanks for the kind words guys! We want our guests to be the stars. They are the experts and need to be heard. It's not about us, it's about them and you guys

[@josephbecker7570]

This series is gold. Thanks to both of you.

[@ReviveStronger]

Glad you enjoy it! - Pascal

[@MEL-ti2sp]

I think Lyle is still on dial up internet. lol

[@ReviveStronger]

Keep it classy

[@yangbo5615]

Yes! Lyle is the last dragon, GBR is GOAT intermediate routine

[@ReviveStronger]

And what a Dragon he is - Coach Pascal

[@garbanzobeans7984]

Here 2 years later and just as refreshing.

[@ReviveStronger]

Hahaha glad you think so xD - Coach Jess

[@6maxgrinder549]

Lyle McDonald is genius.

[@ReviveStronger]

He's been around for ages. Tells a lot about this man - Coach Pascal

[@tonymalczon2060]

Absolutely loved this. Always looking to improve. Thanks

[@ReviveStronger]

Happy to hear that - Pascal

[@MikeBarbell]

loved the content; both the first and second part have been very insightful. keep adding content like this!

[@ReviveStronger]

As long as you want it, we will deliver! - Coach Pascal

[@NopeNope78]

Thanks for your work. Your channel and all the experts you invite are just amazing

[@ReviveStronger]

Thanks a tonne Yovann! - Pascal

[@curtisc7630]

lyle is a fucking gem! an american original. the smartest, sharpest, funniest, most logical guy in the business. he pioneered everything that's now standard.

[@ReviveStronger]

He's definitely one of the great - Coach Pascal

[@MeleDrummer]

From the last podcast I started focusing more on increasing the weight on the bar and my lifts have gone up a bit and I have put on some muscle too. Thanks as always for quality content Steve and Pascal, this is the reference hypertrophy channel for sure =)

[@ReviveStronger]

Thanks again and thanks for your constant support :) - Coach Pascal

[@GetRealFoodCo]

Fantastic interview and content.

[@ReviveStronger]

Means a lot, thanks! - Coach Pascal

[@tylerlegare2668]

Wow that was amazing

[@tsgosser]

Information overload. I tuned out at 35:00

[@boxerfencer]

This is gold!

[@ReviveStronger]

Thanks!! - Coach Pascal

[@boxerfencer]

This has got to be the best interview ever done on this podcast! Any one of the topics covered can be subject matter for an hour long follow-up, which begs the question, why hasn't he been invited back?

[@ReviveStronger]

Because he said we're cocksuckers, pieces of shit, etc. Don't think he'd come on if we were to ask again - Pascal

[@commonsense5188]

@@ReviveStronger Was that after the little debate he had with Mike on here?

[@Ematuresco]

@@ReviveStronger you know he Is bipolar , just ask again 2 weeks later. 😉

[@nerf2752]

I have watched this video so many times. It is harder to note anything down when Lyle breeze through important stuff quickly.

[@ReviveStronger]

Haha, change the speed of the video :p He also has a website if anything! Thanks for watching! - Coach Jess

[@icejumperke]

Squad was on the road, coach! Sorry 😁 Thanks for this again! 💪

[@ReviveStronger]

God damn ;P - Coach Pascal

[@chadmcmahill]

Steve you are a patient man.

[@ReviveStronger]

Hahaha, patient is an understatement - Coach Pascal

[@m74d3]

Steve probably filmed himself nodding and smiling occasionally for 30 seconds and then just put it on a loop while he went out to catch a movie, knowing Lyle wouldn't notice. But in all honesty, great vid. With someone like Lyle, it's better to just let him hold court since he has so much to say and doesn't really need prompts

[@CALISUPERSPORT]

lol that's how most of Lyle's interviews go. You just pull the starter cord and watch him go.

[@StaleyTraining]

Such great info

[@ReviveStronger]

Thanks! Hope you enjoyed it - Coach Pascal

[@nacholifts]

i've been waiting for this! :D

[@ReviveStronger]

Hope you weren't disappointed - Coach Pascal

[@Hoop639]

I wish this was live so Lyle can comment on his dilemma with Krieger and folks😂

[@colin8601]

Details?

[@Hoop639]

Colin type in Lyle McDonald and James Krieger on google you will see Lyles call out of there study and James response then lyles response again. I’m by no means a expert but lyle made some reallly good points but just his way of going about it crazy

[@thinhpham4713]

😂

[@mariodiniz21]

I don't think Steve is the type of guy to feed the drama to get the views, he's a good guy. He just focus on what is really important and informative.

[@ReviveStronger]

Please no. Things like these are not our business to get involved with. Same as with Alan Aragon. - Coach Pascal

[@berrysliwa1]

Great podcast! On the side none, Lyle should upgrade his camera or internet connection and enter XXI century:)

[@ReviveStronger]

Well, haha, you got a point. If it wasn't Lyle, we wouldn't have released this^^ - Coach Pascal

[@robertwilliams8887]

Comment for Lyle next time you talk to him, he mentions here that expecting to do too many shoulder exercises is a huge problem (bench, incline, press) yet I just want to note that his power day workout from his ultimate diet 2.0 includes flat bench, incline bench, close grip bench, and military press, all in the same full body workout (with bent over laterals as well for rear). Would he now recommend a different approach to that workout? Swapping out some of the exercises that affect the anterior delt for others (I.e swap out close grip for lying extensions?)

[@ReviveStronger]

That's an interesting question I cannot answer of course. - Coach Pascal

[@KindlingEffect]

Someone asked your question on his group (basically copy pasted your question). Here's his reply: "Maybe, but it's just one workout. The difficulty being that isolation movements, by and large, don't lend themselves to low reps safely. Good luck doing 5's on incline DB flye or something. I've done them on a lateral raise machine (maybe pec deck) but your technique has to be perfect."

[@robertwilliams8887]

Cool, thanks!

[@The10Daniel10]

I'm here! Fuck yes!!!!

[@ReviveStronger]

Haha, that's the way - Coach Pascal

[@jordanhearne5036]

How would you structure each workout ? It says incline bench press or shoulder press I don’t know where to put shoulder press and incline bench

[@ReviveStronger]

Well if it's OR just pick one ;) - Coach Jess

[@bobbydoo5780]

When Lyle says 3 ‘ rest .. is that in between every set? Seems a little high

[@ReviveStronger]

2-3min rest is a really good rule of thumb - Pascal

[@Hoscitt]

Any tips on fitting hiit cardio into this?

[@ReviveStronger]

It's honestly based on your own preference and recovery management - Pascal

[@DiskoKDiskoL]

Bitrate? Yes.

[@gamerchristina1079]

💪💪❤️❤️‼️

[@ReviveStronger]

Thank you! - Coach Jess

[@naxfurxawde7546]

”Heavy sets of chins not the same as curls” That was a miss, no? I am pretty sure weighted chin ups do hit the biceps harder than curls, but could be wrong.

[@strengtics5912]

I don't think it's a miss, chin up is a compound movement so it involves biceps as well as other muscle groups, so the total intensity on the biceps would be smaller than when you focus primarily on the bicep with curls. At least how I understood that 🤷‍♂️

[@algroc2929]

Absolutely not. You should be able to tell after a set of chins to failure vs a set of barbell curls to failure. Shit, make it a machine curl if you want. Even then you can torch the biceps much more efficiently than with chins. Chins are great, though, but it was an either/or statement of optimality

[@ReviveStronger]

Yes, chin ups do hit the biceps hard but it's still a back movement. If you're mostly pulling with your arms, you're missing out on a lot of back work - Coach Pascal

[@Hoop639]

Is it not weird for you saying Lyle does goes against what Mike Israetel preaches ? They both understand the principles and deviate from there but out of everyone in this crowd I feel they differentiate the most. Anyways love Lyle and mike stuff just gets a little confusing

[@realfinepork7308]

Not that dissimilar, though, they both insist on undulation of some training variables within a microcycle (week), progression within a mesocycle with a deload at the end and specialization mesos for hypertrophy. Specific recommendation are different, but conceptually very similar.

[@Hoop639]

Real Fine Pork very true, but I’ve heard Lyle bash mikes set progression through the meso multiple times and he preaches intensity as the primary driver in lots of podcasts and mike says volumes king and intensities queen. It seems like mike has a more aggressive volume ramping approach followed by a deload then repeat which differs slightly

[@realfinepork7308]

@@Hoop639 yes, of course different people would favor different strategies, and this is where the actual coaching parts come in

[@Hoop639]

Real Fine Pork I agree 100% apply the basic principles then how you deviate from that is where each coach becomes unique. Thats where it’s best to try different strategies in different blocks to see what works best individually

[@griffingeode]

@@Hoop639 I'm currently trying a program I heard from israetel that has a progressing volume block followed by a progressing intensity block. The whole thing has deloads but builds towards a peak week.

[@mutanthorrorshow]

I'm on the wrong side of life 😂

[@Blood_Rapture]

I dont understand why he says 40 sets / bodypart/ week, but an upper lower split has at most 16 chest sets according to his routine... can anyone explain this?

[@bmbb1234]

8 sets per bodypart per workout twice per week = 16 total sets per week!

[@XTheSpartanX7]

Lyle's GBR is the best mass routine I have done.

[@ReviveStronger]

Thanks for sharing :) - Coach Jess

[@XTheSpartanX7]

@@ReviveStronger quick question. After reaching the advanced phase around the 5th year and running the specialization phases for a year do we just keep rotating specialization phases + run up for the rest of our life to maintain the muscle we’ve built after all the years training?

[@balkee42]

U gain significant mass on that program?

[@XTheSpartanX7]

@@balkee42 Yes, idk why i ever stopped doing it.

[@balkee42]

@@XTheSpartanX7 awesome. I started a 13 week strength program but after it i plan to give Lyles program a shot

[@asp6415]

I lost respect for Lyle McDonald ever since he called out Suneet Sebastian and was being racist because he didnt agree wih his leg extension video. But Great video's Steve Keep bring it!

[@ReviveStronger]

Thanks for that Abin! I have my thoughts on a couple of things myself as well - Coach Pascal

[@thesupremegentleman1444]

Lyle is 10x smarter than layne Norton