How to Build HiFi Speakers for $1000 a pair - The Epic Speaker Build

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Toids DIY Audio

Toids DIY Audio

Күн бұрын

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@mitchelllogsdon4254
@mitchelllogsdon4254 Жыл бұрын
I just wanted to add a comment. I finished the speaker build several days ago and they are truly impressive. Great highs and amazing bass. I have CSS TD1s which I think are very good but they are not even in the same category with these speakers. After about 15 hrs. of break in they just get so much better. The best way I can think of to describe them is have you ever listened to a song and the sound is so great you cant help but smile? That's what these to to me on many songs. Great speaker build design.
@nate1sam
@nate1sam 3 ай бұрын
In what way are they better than the CSS? I assume better bass for sure. Also do you have the 1tdx with the improved tweeter?
@drjamesdo
@drjamesdo 2 ай бұрын
That’s awesome. Thinking about building these. Would these be long enough for medium sized room? How is the bass?
@tweakerman
@tweakerman Жыл бұрын
A little trick for you when you're using water borne varnishing, water it down 20% water 80% varnish & then flow it on with a piece of stockinette rag made into a pad, build up 5 coats, then flat back with 1200 paper then build up the finish until you're happy with it, I'm a french polisher with 34 year experience, I'm just being picky, great video man👍
@shallowcaster
@shallowcaster 10 ай бұрын
It took a few months to get the final components from Parts Express but it was worth the wait. The speakers enclosures were completed during some time off between Christmas and New Years and the cross overs over a couple of evenings after work. I am very happy with the results. I chose walnut veneer over MDF with solid walnut faces and they are beautiful to look at in addition to sounding great.
@greninjagreg6245
@greninjagreg6245 Жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed the step-by-step videos like these not often you find people willing to do the work themselves these days.
@bousharpe
@bousharpe 2 жыл бұрын
Great build! I will totally be building these as my first DIY set so I bought your plans, but you really should include way more details as a part of the plans for some of us beginners or just general info in the plans: -For this build, why did you swap the tweeter polarity? -What gauge wire is running between all the speakers and the crossover? What is the minimum you recommend? -Are there any pre-built crossovers that would work for this build (to meet the specs needed) on the market? If not, why? -I bought the plans, but no pictures of your finished crossover on the build included? Kinda sucks.
@wadimek116
@wadimek116 Жыл бұрын
You often need to swap the tweeter polarity, I honestly haven't done a speaker that doesn't have it expect 3 way. Because of how crossover works its usually necessary to change the phase of one of the driver.
@Obsfucation
@Obsfucation Жыл бұрын
@@wadimek116 It’s necessary because most passive crossovers are 2nd order (to keep it cost effective) but, this gives you a +/- 90 (180) degree phase shift at the crossover point between the two drivers. This would normally give quite a deep notch in the response at crossover if the drivers are wired in phase and is actually a good figure of merit for the crossover and driver response. However, because most designs fail to include a setback for the tweeter to time align it with the woofer you don’t get the maximum notch depth. If it sounds like I’m trying to keep the notch, I am. In others words, I DON’T flip the polarity of one of the drivers with a second order crossover design. I do get a notch but, because the drivers are in phase everywhere else but in the crossover region the response of the system is superior in the time domain, i.e. the impulse response is superior. Listening tests have found this to sound better than the flatter frequency response but, compromised impulse response polarity-flipped design. All too often the only thing that many care about is the frequency response but, there’s more to a crossover and a system design than just the FR. P.S. You can avoid this dilemma and compromise by using a 4th order crossover design which gives +/- 180 (360) degrees of phase shift at the crossover. If you also do a tweeter setback or a time delay then you’ve got a design that doesn’t have to trade off frequency response for impulse response. You’ll have much better speaker design.
@hamishmcnaught9783
@hamishmcnaught9783 Жыл бұрын
hey did you ever get it all working?
@davidc.2279
@davidc.2279 Жыл бұрын
​@@ObsfucationHey O, do you have YT channel? I'd watch.👍
@patrikeriksson6052
@patrikeriksson6052 Жыл бұрын
​@@Obsfucation best explains about crossover I have ever read.
@oranje82
@oranje82 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome job! You should really seal the MDF board before painting it tho, way easier to get a good finish on the paint. easiest way of sealing is 50/50: water/glue
@mitsuracer87
@mitsuracer87 Жыл бұрын
Or shellac/sanding sealer
@3dmazter
@3dmazter 2 жыл бұрын
You should look into a flush trim router bit for all the overhanging panel edges. Way faster than sanding them flush. Also wipe the excess glue with a wet rag to cut down on cleaning after.
@D1PP1N
@D1PP1N 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for showing the sanding that is required after cnc work. Most people think you take it off the cnc and bam its a totally finished product lol. That cnc4newbie machine looks stout. I wish they were around before I got my machine they are priced a bit more reasonably than the avid. Although I have only good things to say about my avid. no issues in 4 years.
@Toid
@Toid 2 жыл бұрын
I completely agree. Thanks for mentioning this. and I'm happy to hear you are so happy with your Avid. I've only heard great things about them.
@AshyLarryTM
@AshyLarryTM 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome job Nick! I love those speakers! Something to consider. If you put down a sandable primer base and hand sand before you go over it with the high gloss you’ll get a much better finish. Using a automotive spray gun will get you an automotive quality finish.
@Toid
@Toid 2 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate that tip! Thank you!
@AshyLarryTM
@AshyLarryTM 2 жыл бұрын
👊🏼
@AshyLarryTM
@AshyLarryTM 2 жыл бұрын
I am an idiot brother. All primer is sandable. I just ran through the comment without thinking. You have to put a primer base down first, then the primer filler bass. That is what’s Sandable to a fine finish. Sorry Nick 👊🏽
@ze_german2921
@ze_german2921 2 жыл бұрын
Just use Nason 2k Primer and a spray gun. Walmart sells a nice budget spray gun for $35 made by good year. They are actual better than the Harbor Freight counterpart.
@dougg1075
@dougg1075 11 ай бұрын
A mini spray gun would suffice.
@tybotti
@tybotti Жыл бұрын
Great design! Solid execution. A reasonably sized speaker with LF extension. No sub needed.
@HerbieSchwartz
@HerbieSchwartz 2 жыл бұрын
This was very therapeutic to watch. Loved it. Thx.
@ThresholdZhor
@ThresholdZhor Жыл бұрын
Looking at the frequency response there is a peak at around 160 hz, that means you can make a half cubic feet bigger enclosure to avoid that coloration in the upper bass and also roll off would move from 43 to 35 hz
@mndlessdrwer
@mndlessdrwer 2 жыл бұрын
At some point I really want to try building bookshelves with the 7" Epique woofer and the 1.25" Peerless Corundum tweeter. Not sure if the tweeter can really handle being crossed low enough for that, but it'd be fun to find out.
@Toid
@Toid 2 жыл бұрын
A third order with that Tweeter you'd be surprised at how low you can cross it over. I think that would actually be a really good pairing.
@datdudeinred
@datdudeinred 2 жыл бұрын
You can try wavecor 30mm Tweeter or if highend price is not a problem best option will be bliesma t34 BE dome which can be crossed lowest I've seen.
@thomasschafer7268
@thomasschafer7268 Жыл бұрын
@@datdudeinred and highest price!! Question is must it be beryllium??
@datdudeinred
@datdudeinred Жыл бұрын
@@thomasschafer7268 No. be is not required but larger size domes of other material will beam like crazy if not made from be. what is necessary is I think the bigger the xmax & ofc diaphragm size [for a tweeter] the lower you can cross it but I don't understand how bliesma managed to get such low xo aka fs with lowest mms as fs is inversely proportional to fs.
@diyenthu2844
@diyenthu2844 Жыл бұрын
​@@Toid Nick any thoughts of designing a larger bookshelf with the 7" epique? Would be very very interested for in such a plan! Maybe a DINAC v2?
@Toid
@Toid 2 жыл бұрын
Build plans: toidsdiyaudio.com/product/epic-hifi-speaker-build-plans/ Technical Explanation: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eHjGeXeuZ9aWoc0 Want to know more, all on the Forum: toidsdiyaudio.com/forums/discussion/epic-hifi-speaker-build/
@JustInvertedFpv
@JustInvertedFpv 2 жыл бұрын
if you brush wood glue over all of the mdf surfaces and then sand it back to a smooth surface you can then paint without the mdf sucking up a lot of paint. Those are some nice looking speakers! I'm still using a pair of Shamrock Audio SE-2's I built years ago. I'm sure they are outdated now but they sound so nice and natural. Thanks for the video!
@Hnkka
@Hnkka 2 жыл бұрын
I love these videos, these give me many ideas and some motivation to try and build speakers
@danrussell9357
@danrussell9357 10 ай бұрын
Saw these speakers in the Parts-Express contest and voted for them.
@Toid
@Toid 10 ай бұрын
Thanks Dan! I thought you might like these 😁🤣
@carlsitler9071
@carlsitler9071 2 жыл бұрын
Those totally look epic. I love that wood.
@JamesHawkeYouTube
@JamesHawkeYouTube 2 жыл бұрын
Oversizing the front baffle - great advice there. Nice build. You're making me want to get back to wood working again.
@zarboaudioprojects1430
@zarboaudioprojects1430 2 жыл бұрын
Really good video. Cool backdrop too on the thumbnail pic! I'm glad that you're making another video where you can go into more detail for us folks that really want to see the guts of the build -- I'm really looking forward to that! I can only imagine what this mini-beast of a speaker sounds like cranked up! This was a treat for Labor Day!
@Michael-oj5pr
@Michael-oj5pr 2 жыл бұрын
interesting, would it be possible to change one of the Epique woofers to the 7 inch model? would it be possible bring it to a 3 way speaker?
@dorinp007
@dorinp007 2 жыл бұрын
These speakers look great, and I learned a lot about the details of building them. Just a question: any particular reason for not placing the tweeter between the woofers, in an MTM config?
@mitsuracer87
@mitsuracer87 Жыл бұрын
This is probably a 2.5way speaker rather than a 2 way like an MTM would be. MTM would also have vertical lobing issues
@dorinp007
@dorinp007 Жыл бұрын
@@mitsuracer87 MTM exists exactly because it has minimal vertical lobing. Its problems are in horizontal plane. Anyway, I read in the meantime and found out why MTM is falling out of favour. Short answer: more complex, more expensive, harder to design properly.
@mikeleahy5283
@mikeleahy5283 2 жыл бұрын
Right tools for the job= nice tight corners and joints . Nice top shelf job 👍
@philvale5724
@philvale5724 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, I am new to your channel. Great territorial, I built my own loudspeaker cabinets about 40 years ago, And they are transmission line one 8” inch woofer, 100w @ 8ohms Peerless, and Tweeter, Peerless. I did have a printout of the frequency response but I’ve lost it they sound amazing especially when I play something that has been played from a very very end audio system my speakers seem to come alive. Approximately 5 foot in height 18 inches deep and about a foot wide, They are a copy of something that was designed back in the late 70s . So it might be worthwhile even experiment with a transmission line type cabinet only smaller something similar to what you have just built. I am a retired specialist joiner Cabinet maker , There is some special cutters that you can get that allow you to cut something at 45° but with a finger joint in it but you have to be very precise making your panels the right size so when you assemble your cabinet they lock together on the corners. Good luck , I enjoy the video, look forward for new one. Phil from the moulin France.
@elcarlissimo
@elcarlissimo 7 ай бұрын
Great vid bud! Relaxing and inspiring at the same time!🙂
@ramonbmovies
@ramonbmovies 2 жыл бұрын
A work of art.
@Toid
@Toid 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@fubartotale3389
@fubartotale3389 2 жыл бұрын
Nice, I'm thinking of building these. Not a big fan of butt joints, I go tongue and groove cut with the dadoe head on the table saw. Biscuits would work as well, keeps everything from sliding around in gluing. Dowel holes punched in with the very nice CNC router you have would work as well. I have done the solid wood baffel, painted/laminate sides as well, its a very nice look. I would very much like to see a video on building the crossovers, as the electronic part of the deal is my weak point. You have the best DIY audio channel out there, hands down.
@blakebrockhaus347
@blakebrockhaus347 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, with a CNC on tap dados make it super easy to assemble. Although I can definitely understand going this route to make it more accessible to the average Joe that wants to build these
@Dimrain13
@Dimrain13 2 жыл бұрын
Would you ever consider making the enclosures or at least cutting them for others? Obviously for a fee +shipping/materials.
@KingOath
@KingOath 2 жыл бұрын
Kitchen guys or cabinet makers can cut it for you mate, just draw it up properly and ask your local bloke to feed it into the CNC. It’s not much work for those guys and the materials are cheaper for them too. They can also do things like laminate the completed cabinets in your choice of finish to save having to paint them
@FredrikRambris
@FredrikRambris 2 жыл бұрын
These would be great for a small home theater front speakers. I wonder what recommendations you have to complete these with a center and surround speakers.
@timschutte6924
@timschutte6924 Жыл бұрын
I saw your build of those, "Do I need a subwoofer", build. The ones with the amps built in the back. I think it was Kirby that you did that with. Joint adventure. This design is awesome. I currently have two pair of these with the side woofer like Def Tech. I'm gonna add an amp for the woofers. The top half is an ATM of another company that I definitely love.
@JS-hu7pv
@JS-hu7pv 2 жыл бұрын
That walnut is gorgeous- good choice
@blakebrockhaus347
@blakebrockhaus347 2 жыл бұрын
Looks awesome! And I agree, I like a good full range bookshelf speaker
@bbfoto7248
@bbfoto7248 2 жыл бұрын
I agree that they look great. But I don't know if I'd consider these a "Bookshelf" speaker. They are quite large. Moreso a "standmount" speaker.
@JukeboxAlley
@JukeboxAlley 2 жыл бұрын
Really well done and good choice of drivers
@antoniiocaluso1071
@antoniiocaluso1071 4 ай бұрын
beautifully-made video!!
@jordanhart9708
@jordanhart9708 2 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see this with the 7" versions and perhaps an AMT rather than a soft dome
@michael-4k4000
@michael-4k4000 2 жыл бұрын
Loved this video . Want these speakers
@goodgoat3096
@goodgoat3096 2 жыл бұрын
The walnut is just beautiful, the best. I've been considering using oak stair treads which are a full 1" thick and would allow large radii to be used to minimize diffraction. I assume that the tweeter could be crossed low enough to deal with the cone breakup of the Epique mid woofers. These must be kick butt party speakers. Great project.
@Toid
@Toid 2 жыл бұрын
The tweeters can, of course some of that has to do with the fact that the woofers themselves don't have bad cone break up until very high in the frequency range. Believe it or not the Tweeter actually determined the crossover more than the woofers on this build. Which I'll go into more detail next week when I do more of a technical breakdown. Here's a great technical review on the woofer if you're interested. audioxpress.com/article/test-bench-the-e150he-44-5-5-full-range-subwoofer-from-the-dayton-audio-epique-line
@bbfoto7248
@bbfoto7248 2 жыл бұрын
@Good Goat You can get Walnut stair treads as well if you look hard enough. ;)
@goodgoat3096
@goodgoat3096 2 жыл бұрын
@@bbfoto7248 - Thanks, I live in the Chicago burbs and there is a store, Owl Hardwoods, and they would be a good starting point.
@mitsuracer87
@mitsuracer87 Жыл бұрын
Can also just glue multiple sheets together to get the Thickness you want. I have 1.5" thick baffles made of two 3/4" pieces which are easier to find.
@mrboat580
@mrboat580 Жыл бұрын
Excellent. Thank you for doing these projects. Every time I pick up one of my DIY speakers it is very apparent the quality feel compared to what I have invested. Even something as budget as Paul Carmody's Classix2, feel, sound and look high end. I think my pinnacle high-end speaker would be a freak 15" monkey coffin 3-way, somewhere in the 89-93 db sensitivity range. It would be for those times where you just get tired of puny drivers and want something that absolutely hammers.
@SVW1976
@SVW1976 2 жыл бұрын
I was skeptical at first. $1000 for speakers you build yourself is a hard pill to swallow but now I get it. Great video! Subscribed
@KingOath
@KingOath 2 жыл бұрын
Store bought speakers will cost nearly 10 times as much as a properly done DIY to have equivalent performance. They might have a better look and feel, depending on how good at finishing work you are lol. But a $5000 pair of speakers at a shop is really just a $500 pair in a pretty package. DIY is really the only option that makes sense, buying any speaker new from a store is just a huge rip-off.
@Edward135i
@Edward135i 2 жыл бұрын
Nick, I'd love to see a tower version of this, with maybe 3 or even 4 of these driver's.
@maisonsavvy
@maisonsavvy 2 жыл бұрын
A powered Tower version with DSP would be even nicer to see🔊
@Raller8869
@Raller8869 2 жыл бұрын
@@maisonsavvy yes that would be very nice ;) i'm actually building that right now. Two of the big brother woofers E180HE (7") and a nice scanspeak tweeter. Powered by Hypex nCore Fusion Amp. Yesterday was my first listen to that setup, and boy that configuration has so much potential!
@maisonsavvy
@maisonsavvy 2 жыл бұрын
@@Raller8869 Sounds like it's going to be a killer setup. Good luck and have fun!
@hoobsgroove
@hoobsgroove 2 жыл бұрын
why didn't you go mtm mounted off centre mounted on the side. what's the model number of those drivers? what order crossover do you use? looks nice not cheap that wood
@Durkhead
@Durkhead 2 жыл бұрын
I thought the sides were gona be subwoofers
@welderfixer
@welderfixer 2 жыл бұрын
Nick, that is a great router table. Ball screws and linear guide rails. Very very nice. I'm jealous. Those speakers are beautiful. At some point I absolutely have to buy your plans for these and build them. All the best to you and yours - Kevin.
@Toid
@Toid 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Kevin. I had to upgrade. This is a CNC4NEWBIE. I'm overall very happy with it. Although, I might need to resurface the waste board 😂
@welderfixer
@welderfixer 2 жыл бұрын
@@Toid Good tools are worth crying over the price. I'm happy for you that you are making good use of your investments. Today, I'm continuing building a pair of all steel "pan and tilt" wall mount brackets for my new Emotiva B1+ side surround speakers for my budget 5.1.2 system. Please have a great day!
@johnvanvliet2076
@johnvanvliet2076 10 ай бұрын
Really cool this video, I used to do this kind of work by hand, Yea I am 81 and in the 50's and 60's we did not have this sort of equipment, nevertheless nice work and excellent video...........
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy 2 жыл бұрын
Epic!
@jerichotm2122
@jerichotm2122 Жыл бұрын
If I'm not mistaken, you putted two subwoofers into the same enclosure... I've noticed that the drivers have 2 coils each, and this structure is specific to a subwoofer. With passive radiator, the bass must be crazy good! 😉 Interesting choice! 👍
@leo11877
@leo11877 2 жыл бұрын
Can you maybe do a build with 3 way with 2 compression drivers, 2 8" woofers? Like a Klipsch legend look alike but with better response.
@samt1039
@samt1039 2 жыл бұрын
Do you have a seperate link for a sound demo? Thanks
@lsdave
@lsdave 2 жыл бұрын
Have you ever thought of doing a speaker like this as an active speaker using MiniDSP's plate amp?
@rikardekvall3433
@rikardekvall3433 2 жыл бұрын
Yes! One on each speaker. Tweeter on one channel and woofer on the other channel. DSP it all so there would not be need for a crossover. Great possibilities for the optimal sound.
@andrewl706
@andrewl706 2 жыл бұрын
I have wanted to build a MTM with the Epiques’s and the Dayton KABD 4100 amp.
@lsdave
@lsdave 2 жыл бұрын
@@andrewl706 The problem with that Dayton Amp board, is i wouldn't consider that a real HiFi option. The ICE Power class D in the MiniDSP amp board was developed by Bang & Olufsen and has been used by many audiophile companies that wanted to get into the class D realm.
@jimthvac100
@jimthvac100 2 жыл бұрын
I really wished you had discussed something about the distortion of those woofers and the crossover point in your build video.
@davidstevens7809
@davidstevens7809 2 жыл бұрын
yup. I agree
@jasoncasto910
@jasoncasto910 2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing when I looked at the TSP's of those drivers. Also I wonder what crossover points were used. One other thing to add is the difference in efficiency from tweeter to woofers.
@blakebrockhaus347
@blakebrockhaus347 2 жыл бұрын
The thd is really low on the epique drivers out to 4k. But I'm not sure about imd and stuff like the Doppler effect
@buka9330
@buka9330 2 жыл бұрын
@@blakebrockhaus347 It cant be too good at higher volumes. That's why you should if possible leave the bass to the subwoofer.
@sethh8892
@sethh8892 2 жыл бұрын
​@@buka9330 that's the point of this build though, is to still be able to have that low base without having a full subwoofer. If you're limited to space/ wattage, sometimes you just got to do what you got to do.
@projector7141
@projector7141 Жыл бұрын
Really nice build. If you leave extra material for routing or sanding, make sure you center the front baffle with shims or something! Also let the glue set for a good long time. I left a vintage sewing machine base for a week. It was walnut veneer on birch or something. I might leave the walnut unfinished, it has natural oils in it. Tung oil darkens it so much.
@AudioTekAdventures-ph9ke
@AudioTekAdventures-ph9ke 11 ай бұрын
Nice! Good looking and well done:)
@Toid
@Toid 11 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@genestarwind4610
@genestarwind4610 2 жыл бұрын
These are cool and all. And your test are great. Would love to she you send in some of your speakers for 3 party evaluation.
@scotth6814
@scotth6814 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I would love to see Erin test some of these DIY speakers out.
@jamesbarrick3403
@jamesbarrick3403 2 жыл бұрын
I'm certain that this build would measure (sonically) much better with the tweeter in the center.
@sppeppek2725
@sppeppek2725 Жыл бұрын
1. Man Sieht Er ist kein Profi , trotzdem gut gemacht . 2. Ordnung und Sauberkeit am Arbeitsplatz ist das A& O .
@Kobwo1
@Kobwo1 Ай бұрын
Would you now consider these passive radiators from Dayton? Epique E150HE-PR 5-1/2" Carbon Fiber Cone Passive Radiator
@writenamehere0000
@writenamehere0000 Жыл бұрын
"how to build... if you have a tons of tools and a place" :) We, living in apartments are screwed.
@rogerweiland6384
@rogerweiland6384 Жыл бұрын
Go outside
@writenamehere0000
@writenamehere0000 Жыл бұрын
@@rogerweiland6384 I just came back home from outside.
@grizz19769
@grizz19769 Жыл бұрын
Use hand tools.
@rogerweiland6384
@rogerweiland6384 Жыл бұрын
@@363.2McMasters everyone needs 🔊 speakers like this (only bigger). If it's too loud you're too old.
@stevenPounder-p4b
@stevenPounder-p4b 4 ай бұрын
You’ve just identified a need to make a new friend. Everyone needs one of those friends houses where everyone’s project comes to. Another thing that helps is having a job that aids in your hobby. After I retired I got a job working for a mom and pop gymnastics supply company. After hours I was allowed free range to shop equipment and all the “scrap” wood that was often large sections of solid sheets of 3/4 and 1 cedar. It was a shared warehouse that also had structural welding, boat manufacturing and a speed shop fabrication. A lot of hobbies to network under one roof.
@patb5266
@patb5266 Жыл бұрын
These speakers look impressive! Thanks.
@thecanadianace
@thecanadianace 2 жыл бұрын
id love to see the measurements of this speaker on and off axis
@carsnstuff6800
@carsnstuff6800 Ай бұрын
how did you wire the tweeter and the woofers together i am looking to do something similar but i think i need a passive crossover any tips would be great
@gavinm717gkm
@gavinm717gkm 2 жыл бұрын
This has lit a fire under my ass to get moving on my 7” Epique build. Super stoked to see how low you were able to tune them!
@mski349
@mski349 2 ай бұрын
Having fun watching your vids. But, there is no shortage of building videos showing big sound in small packages. What if one wanted to build BIG speakers for big sound? Got any suggestions for that?
@tomkocur
@tomkocur 2 ай бұрын
If you want a complete project, you'll find a lot of them on Troels Gravesen's page, some are even free. It all depends on your budget though. If you're able to measure and design crossovers on your own, there's a bazilion of possibilities, big boxes will pretty much always sound big and will not even require a lot of power for that (unlike Epics).
@jeffparry2426
@jeffparry2426 2 жыл бұрын
New Yanky work shop of speaker builds. Love it
@Toid
@Toid 2 жыл бұрын
That's a huge compliment. Thank you!
@kennethcohagen3539
@kennethcohagen3539 12 күн бұрын
How did you choose the size of the passive radiators?
@8bit-meiko
@8bit-meiko 2 жыл бұрын
The Dinas evolved is quite Epic of a speaker.
@g5-industries
@g5-industries 3 ай бұрын
what drivers would u use if u were to make studio monitors which had a very flat frequency response?
@firecloud77
@firecloud77 2 жыл бұрын
Can I built these in a MTM configuration, instead of TMM?
@blakebrockhaus347
@blakebrockhaus347 2 жыл бұрын
You can, but the crossover will need to be slightly adjusted to compensate
@clavierdelicover
@clavierdelicover 6 ай бұрын
Good work ! But... How did you adjust the passive radiators? And also, is the box empty? No wool or anything else inside??? Nor any information on the characteristics of the crossover... Are they written on the plans?
@g5-industries
@g5-industries 3 ай бұрын
what drivers would be best to use if you were to make reference grade(in other words very flat frequency response) studio monitors?
@rezakhyabani725
@rezakhyabani725 Жыл бұрын
Hi, First of all thank you for a good video session. I have a living room which is roughly 23 feet x 25 feet with vaulted ceiling. I would love to built three or four way floor standing speakers. the cost is not that much of an issue but quality of sound reproduction is extremely important. I listen to philharmonic orchestra, classical and sometimes classical soft rock music. My problem is I do not have a CNC cutting machine but I can do assembling, wiring or painting. I need an absolutely hi end design that I can buy all components or schematics with all relevant information. I listen to tube amplifiers.Can you please recommend me any kit or a design. My apm delivers 30W. Thank you.
@Im-over-9000
@Im-over-9000 Жыл бұрын
Those are pretty badass 😎👌👌
@petebigelow254
@petebigelow254 Жыл бұрын
Killer Build!!!
@michaelsacco1334
@michaelsacco1334 Жыл бұрын
Late to the party on this build, but what does the crossover look like? Are there any photos or video anywhere on how you built it? I bought the plans, is it literally just glued to the backside of the terminal cup? I’ve never built one before so sorry if this seems like a dumb question.
@Jensenmannwurst
@Jensenmannwurst 2 жыл бұрын
At higher volumes, 2-way speakers have the problem that the upper frequencies of the woofer move with the bass frequencies of the high membrane excursion, which can lead to audible distortions.
@KingOath
@KingOath 2 жыл бұрын
Every different style of speaker has inherent problems. There is no perfect speaker. When designing speakers, you choose which problems you can get away with for your application and which ones you can’t.
@paulinboston
@paulinboston 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Nice to watch someone with talent. Have you considered GR Audio binding posts. They would save a lot of work. Why don't you solder the connecters. Why don't you use a little thicker wire.
@mitchelllogsdon4254
@mitchelllogsdon4254 Жыл бұрын
I bought your plans and I am putting the speakers together and I am second guessing my self. Should I use better crossover components? How would air core inductors and Jantzen Superior caps make a difference in the sound? Thanks I appreciate the videos you make.
@Toid
@Toid Жыл бұрын
You’re welcome to use what you deem to be higher quality components as long as they are within specs of the original.
@mitchelllogsdon4254
@mitchelllogsdon4254 Жыл бұрын
@@Toid I finished my Epic speakers. They remind me a lot of my CSS 1 TD but of course more base. I had to substitute a couple items on the crossover because a few items were on back order for a few months. I wish you would put a picture of the actual crossover on plans. I followed the diagram but just trying to lay it out my friend said saying my crossover was the ugliest ever was an understatement. My soldering was even worse. This is only my second speaker set to put together so I will get there. Thanks for the inspiration.
@Toid
@Toid Жыл бұрын
@@mitchelllogsdon4254 I’m so glad to hear that you enjoy them. I appreciate the constructive criticism and will definitely take that to heart.
@felipenachmanowicz9393
@felipenachmanowicz9393 Жыл бұрын
How does it compare with the 212? Which would be a better pairing with a 15inch subwoofer?
@elijahbonner4398
@elijahbonner4398 Жыл бұрын
What’s your opinion on doing this build with 1 woofer and 1 passive radiator
@chillinjim
@chillinjim 2 жыл бұрын
Why is it at 19:07 one woofer looks bigger than the other? Also any chance you would make a video building the crossover?
@Toid
@Toid 2 жыл бұрын
It's just a camera perspective. The crossover information is in the plans. If you have any issues with it, I'd be happy to help.
@frme1
@frme1 2 жыл бұрын
I like the clean design, also the new style to bring the speaker into the right light. I guess there is a space in the url for the midrange speakers. I already build the Dina’s from you. Can try to compare the epic’s to the Dinas? Thanks
@chandrasekharmanjunathvara7505
@chandrasekharmanjunathvara7505 10 ай бұрын
Hi Todd, You are doing great work for DIYers. I want to build 9.2.4 home theatre system. Can you please suggest DIY Kits(including cabinets) from parts express for LCR, Subs, heights and surrounds. Thanks in advance.
@hazembata
@hazembata Жыл бұрын
Would the Epique 5.5" and 7" be good a good combo for a tower 3-way speaker?
@kylewells2942
@kylewells2942 Жыл бұрын
What did you use for speaker foam/filler? What is the best material to use, generally speaking?
@rezo786
@rezo786 7 ай бұрын
Did you ever get to use the full 200RMS x2 of the Woofers ? What kinda wood seal did you use? The sensitivity of these woofers are pretty low Please can you elaborate a little more on your crossover design? 😊 your Freq response looks very good.
@JeffAdairKTM530
@JeffAdairKTM530 2 жыл бұрын
Great build and project brother
@robertlee1145
@robertlee1145 Жыл бұрын
I have a paradigm center speaker cc490 with 2X 5 1/2 drivers. Could I just buy these epique speakers and switch them out or do I have to mess with crossovers?
@peterboardman6407
@peterboardman6407 4 ай бұрын
What preassembled crossover would you recommend with this build?
@Toid
@Toid 4 ай бұрын
@@peterboardman6407 none. This uses a custom design. The design is in the build plans.
@davidwilkinson5034
@davidwilkinson5034 Жыл бұрын
i'm a little lost about your wiring, do you have a complete wiring diagram, it looks like you have two different diagrams and how everything connects to the speaker wires?
@crisjr6478
@crisjr6478 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome btw
@str0y
@str0y 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, thats change all my speakers proyects, its a very good bass performance por the size. i have two question, it's possible add a push pull configuration ? and how much power you need to move this speakers decently ? Thanks for share.
@Toid
@Toid 2 жыл бұрын
If you're talking about having the woofers in the push pole configuration the answer would be no. But these speakers actually ended up not needing much power to power them. I used an smsl ao200, which is rated it at 90 Watts by two and had no issues powering them at all.
@corymarcotte5853
@corymarcotte5853 2 жыл бұрын
Question, I’m no wood worker. U use butt ends on all connection points. Is that stronger?
@SamFleminghome
@SamFleminghome 2 жыл бұрын
what format are your design files? really worthwhile if you provide actual working files that I can just do the machining setup without having to re-design everything.
@Toid
@Toid 2 жыл бұрын
If you buy the plans, I'd be happy to provide the DXF files for personal use. If you need a different format. You'd have to tell me and I would see what I can export.
@epi2045
@epi2045 2 жыл бұрын
@@Toid Your work and channel is already worthwhile without having to post your native files up for free.
@bbfoto7248
@bbfoto7248 2 жыл бұрын
@@epi2045 Nick said "IF he BUYS the standard plans...", then he will include the CNC files. Not for free. But of course, once those files are "in the wild", it will be more difficult to monetize them.
@curtisd6576
@curtisd6576 Жыл бұрын
How much power can these handle? If I threw 500w each speaker at either 8 or 4omhs would that be safe?
@ikepre
@ikepre Жыл бұрын
How to build $$$$ speakers for only $1000 and $20,000 in tools!!! Love it!!
@ronalandaniel
@ronalandaniel 29 күн бұрын
CNC not necessary, can be easily done with a router. So, more like $1,000 in parts and less than $1,000 in tools (Table Saw: $300, Clamps: $100, Router: $100, Drill: $50, Bits: $50, Sander: $50) and consumables (fasteners, sandpaper, glue, finish)
@praveenkumaralex3026
@praveenkumaralex3026 3 ай бұрын
Sir what are the speakers you are used?
@zelim002
@zelim002 Ай бұрын
Great build 👍🏼 Is it possible to use different tweeters? The ones used here are very expensive
@Toid
@Toid Ай бұрын
@@zelim002 no. I actually did a video on why this tweeter was specifically chosen for this build. But rest assured you couldn’t just put any tweeter in this and have it turn out the way it did.
@intuitivme
@intuitivme Жыл бұрын
Nice built and clear how you did it. But you skipped the side thing, what did you put in the side hole and why?
@Toid
@Toid Жыл бұрын
You’re right. I should’ve spent more time on that. That’s a passive radiator and it works like a port tuning the system so that you can get low frequency.
@intuitivme
@intuitivme Жыл бұрын
@@Toid Ah okay. I have that on my speakers too, It's through watching this kind of videos that I finally understand why I have those 🙂 Thank you for your reply.
@jimtincher7357
@jimtincher7357 9 ай бұрын
I would use dado's for the internal bracing... much easier to assemble. For cleaning up the edges a spiral flush trim router bit will be significantly quicker.
@donniecatalano
@donniecatalano Жыл бұрын
Hi Fi was a big thing when I was young, so in the mid 70's and onwards so many people were into it. Unfortunately the Mp3 industry killed a lot of things, including the passion for good listening.
@rhinoskin7550
@rhinoskin7550 Жыл бұрын
Also, thank you for sharing the information
@cali0028
@cali0028 Жыл бұрын
Wonder if a 2.1 sound bar can designed with these speaker and the PR.
@pavlobilous4030
@pavlobilous4030 Жыл бұрын
In your frequency response graph average line is strictly horizontal. What do you think about an opinion there that in room frequency response of the speaker should slope slightly downward in the direction of higher frequencies? Just curious 🤷🏻‍♂️
@Toid
@Toid Жыл бұрын
The response shown is what we call anechoic response. It doesn’t take the room into account. And anechoic response should be +/ 3 dB flat. Once you put this in the room and sit back at your seated position your response will have a downward slope
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