13 Reasons Why It Sucks

Ignore the rest, but not #12
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In this video I:
-I drag out 13 reasons the same way they dragged out 13 episodes.
-Explain why the show fails at preventing bullying/suicide then get bullied in the comments by fans of the show to commit suicide.
-Pray for Jeff since he deserved better
13 REASONS WHY:
Follows teenager Clay Jensen, in his quest to uncover the story behind his classmate and crush, Hannah, and her decision to end her life.
Creator: Brian Yorkey
Stars: Dylan Minnette, Katherine Langford, Christian Navarro
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[@MrZocan]

"Cause people need a show to teach them to be nice... Unfortunately, they do.

[@epicderp6167]

what has the world come to....

[@toxicedits_crybabytears7059]

Francisco "Zocan" Nunes yes

[@themonkeyshead7520]

Francisco "Zocan" Nunes sure

[@Stayler17]

It's fucking sad. My parents at least tried to teach me how to be a decent human. It's seems some people don't know basic stuff.

[@thearcherplays2381]

oh shut up boo hoo everyone gets bullied nit middle school, its middle school dumbass

[@internetstuffingkid3928]

The 14th tape is my mixtape

[@generalzar0ff]

You can't find it now because it was SO FIRE that it burned.

[@Gofaw]

RJayy 2K are you black?

[@internetstuffingkid3928]

Fudge's quality aids *Remastered edition* thank you

[@phantom5273]

Muglife my nigga

[@FallonFontaine]

Muglife 🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@irismissingconsistency1656]

hannah didnt entertain me.. it was so painful to watch a girl that blamed everyone else and made everyone feel guilty for her own decision to end her life

[@Avalik311]

+_ Xds4325 _ that was legit her only good reason so...

[@melissacrest33]

She isn't meant to be perfect though. Of course she blamed others. Of course she caused her parents and clay a bunch of emotional turmoil. She was selfish. No main character should be perfect.

[@madcoda]

Please watch "Beyond the reasons"

[@shiranturgeman892]

Melissa Crest OK cool, but that's just way too annoying for me to watch.

[@shiranturgeman892]

_ Xds4325 _ She got raped which is horrible. But blaming other people who haven't done anything to her for her death is pretty fucked up

[@givemechrist3849]

I don't think that a person, who was hiding on a closet while her friend was in trouble, has a right to judge anybody

[@lean9303]

SO TRUEEEEEE

[@AMAli-ct5df]

They were not friends

[@yrnofficiallance5746]

@@AMAli-ct5df even if they weren’t she was getting rape like grow a back bone

[@DonaldHamilton03]

Great breakdown, my thoughts exactly when I finished it.

[@ninnaaaaaaaaaa]

Donald Hamilton agreed that and many more!

[@NN-re7cy]

6:15-6:28 Sums up my thoughts exactly on this series. Well said.

[@dh7164]

Thanks for the review. I had objections to wasting my time on this show, but you have saved me from wasting anymore time on curiosity about it. Very insightful - especially recognizing what it means to make or to watch a show like this.

[@jonasnieweler4323]

I really like how you explained Point 12, i felt exactly like that.

[@juanpanchomorelos1134]

Clay has more flashbacks than a typical Vietnam veteran

[@fanaticaus743]

Nah man Oliver Queen does.

[@DaBakaShinobi]

Fanatic Gamer LMAO very true! They're supposed to be stopping that next season lol

[@alessia4535]

Sebastian L. yeah lol. but i kinda get it. he is remembering the good times he had with hannah

[@aniles1989]

Sebastian L. LMAO

[@xSy7]

LOL

[@crowebrinson4853]

With the warmer colors thing people saying it's because her presence made everyone happy. No, no it didn't.

[@callofdutywii1]

Eric Rodriguez It relates to Clay obviously

[@estherpierre3604]

Walter White more like in cinematography, flashbacks are shown in more bright in through 'rose colored glasses'.Look up every scene dealing with flashbacks.

[@krashbarber5552]

In Clay's world yea

[@macks8132]

Eric Rodriguez its the change from being okay, to this depression that everyone has now,

[@marinasunshine4517]

She's literally crying in the first pic too.

[@intelactual2236]

I cannot stretch this enough: S U I C I D E I S N O T R E V E N G E

[@uptightJimmy568]

Hannah literally never even sounded or said she wanted revenge she just wanted them to know that they lead up to her killing herself.

[@uptightJimmy568]

Otaku-Neko 25 "why would you go out of your to make 13 tapes for people she interactived with? Because she wanted revenge " If she wanted revenge she would've taken the counselor's offer to pursue legal actions on the guy who raped her. If she wanted revenge she would've asked the guy to release the tapes to the public so that the people who bullied her could be charged or at least hated but why didn't she? If she really wanted revenge why wouldn't she take these chances to get it? Why leave the only evidence of her harassment to the people who harassed her? It seems way more likely that she wanted to tell her story of why she committed suicide than to get revenge. "when the principal ask her whats up she says nothing so the principal has to let her go because he can't make her stay against her will and what does she do she turns around and says hes not coming i'm like bitch really?" She most likely had a mental disorder which could explain her behavior so pointing her out as the odd one shows that you probably don't know enough to analyze characters. "why would she not try to get help we were shown she outgoing witty sarcastic but they change her personality so she can not tell anyone and play the victim i would understand if she was a shy girl quite loner ect but its clear shes isn't" You should honestly look up more on bullying and mental health since you clearly seem to not know much on the subject. People do act differently depending on their environment. I can be enthusiastic and energetic in public but than be sad when i'm not in the public's eye.

[@CarlieMae]

Truth!

[@slibbysleep8647]

up that's kind of a dick move. she's kinda blaming them for the S u i c i d e

[@mizunokurohime6769]

Bryce was a popular rich guy with influential parents, do you really think if Hannah took legal action on one of the most popular guys in high school, she'd be heard? That's not a good argument to make for making it not a revenge tape.

[@mirandasula5274]

I don't understand why Jessica slapped Justin she should've slapped Bryce

[@lydiamaclean286]

Miranda Sula it's because she was mad at Justin for not telling her

[@daskanguru3772]

Miranda Sula because she is in denial and doesn't want to hear the truth from Justin

[@luchan1638]

Miranda Sula she was firstly mad at him because he let bryce have have his way and didnt tell jessica afterwards what happened

[@dominiqueellis9123]

Justin was someone who she loved and trusted he told her that they had sex so for him to admit that she was actually raped and that he lied to her, really hurt her.

[@sa-uz8xv]

because she's a sneaky pos.

[@islaclaire1563]

Mom: Do your homework Hannah: welcome to your tape

[@sierrahazel6750]

isla claire 😂

[@grantholland6853]

I probably shouldn’t be laughing but.... 😂😂😂

[@fortune2199]

LMAOOOOOOO

[@paperchasindude6578]

😂😂 bruh

[@nakulvora333]

😁😂😂😂

[@angie-zu5rs]

Just wanna tell you, as somebody who struggles with depression, 13 Reasons Why is one of the worst representations I've ever seen.

[@clipboard.]

Hope you are doing better now

[@noahashton9705]

Everyone experiences different depression

[@triggeredbeetle5370]

Noah Ashton yeah but 13 reason why isn’t it

[@noahashton9705]

TriggeredBeetle better than the majority of Netflix shows

[@triggeredbeetle5370]

Noah Ashton ight

[@jennellem.1406]

Why do fans of this show get so defensive? Like, damn.

[@thalesguidote3728]

DAMN. by Kendrick Lamar

[@korrayui3455]

Jennelle M. Because when they watch it they feel like they are enlightened and that they are represented in this show(as the depressed kid) even though they really dont know

[@meganb4276]

Jennelle M. Because they're all suicidal themselves and feel that because it deals with suicide it automatically makes them apart of it. I myself have been suicidal and depressed, (actually diagnosed by a therapist, I hare people who self diagnose) and when I watched 13 reasons why it made me feel really sad. The episode where Hannah dies, I literally had to close my eyes because it would trRIGgErRR my anxiety. The show sucked. People who want to die take it seriously cause they want to die too.

[@jennellem.1406]

Megan Loves Pierce the veil Cx Yeah, where I live all the schools actually sent out warnings about the show because it triggered someone and ended up being what pushed them to kill themselves.

[@박지민-n1r]

because 14 year old girls have nothing better to do with their time.

[@av4d]

You should definitely be able to criticize suicide in shows. What if the show fucks up the portrayal (like this one does)

[@ninamamedova3504]

I've only seen the first episode but I do like the fact that they're bringing up the topic of suicide to the media. But I heard that they're making a second season which WILL make a teen drama out of a serious topic which, stinks (to put it lightly)

[@droppkick1538]

av4d they also fuck up and make it so that she doesn't get help. Making her and the audience think she has to go through everything alone. Which is a lie- she had opportunities to get help. Just like most people do in this world. There's also the fact they try to push the fact that if her unrequited love interest had liked her back everything would be fine and she wouldn't be depressed. That's not how depression works, and being in a relationship can often times cause it to get worse. All in all the show majorly messed up on multiple fronts.

[@OriginalCindy8]

The show screwed up the portrayal of suicide completely. They didn’t emphasize that it was caused by mental illness, they didn’t emphasize that it was treatable, they didn’t tell viewers that the person responsible for Hannah’s death was in fact Hannah herself, etc.

[@alexvaldivia1855]

Exactly

[@shesus1986]

people hide behind that statement that the show wants to show you how your actions affect people mentally and shit, but beside the suicide scene, absolutely nothings shows that the whole thing is just a *drama* for entertainent it teaches nothing at all

[@lionmcmuffin4751]

One thing I don't get is the reasoning behind Season 2.. the show is called 13 Reasons Why, and those 13 reasons were covered in the first episode.. so what will even be in season 2?

[@gojida2207]

ylenia The show will be 26 reasons why? xD

[@dougsitter1038]

ylenia 13 seasons why

[@wrinkleintime4257]

ylenia money It's ALWAYS money

[@KaylaJohnson1995]

ylenia the trial will be in season 2 and probably a shooting

[@strawberryangel3358]

Kayla Johnson both of those things never happened in the book though

[@cupcakegurls909]

Clay in the book was way more aware that it WAS Hannah’s decision. She was doing it to get revenge. The book was more focused on that than how the show made it so Hannah was a hero, her suicide was supposed to change everything. It made suicide glorified. And that is the worst thing they could of done with the plot.

[@Madg0blinn]

is the book good i was about to buy it but i wasnt sure wet so i need your opinion

[@cupcakegurls909]

-that annoying girl- the book is honestly really fucking good. The author’s perspective set is way different than the show. Most importantly it’s a mystery whether or not she actually died.

[@MuziQBrixMusic]

Sydney Bishop they changed it to keep a serious tone a hurt girl who fell into depression commits suicide (in the 10 anniversary of the book she is said to be alibe because she swallowed pills and her parents rushed her to the hospital) but in the show they wanted to show people that there isn't always a second chance and one person actions bring consequences that can start a chain reaction with others as the show clearly displays.

[@Chelsaroo22]

Sydney Bishop and on top of that, I heard that the way she kills herself in the book is not how she kills herself in the show. I wish the show was more nuanced in its narrative and that her death wasn’t sensationalized.

[@MrThecat1000]

I actually really felt the opposite and felt like the book glorified it more

[@cynthiazavala4507]

I don't care who I offend but this is the most honest review I've seen about this show. this show to some extent did in fact romanticize sucide and the target audience was way too hormonal and immature to handle the topics of this show, there are way to many fan girls trying to defend Justin because bohoo he had a sad home life . 1) some of the people on the tape did not deserve to be on the tape, Hanna even wrote down jeffs name but crossed it out, how the fuck could she even think of putting his name AT ALL ?? I can see what tony meant when he said " Hanna was a lot of drama" 2) Hanna was in fact looking for revenge, stop downplaying that what she truly wanted wasn't revenge, if she left the tapes to " just tell her story she would of left something for her parents, but she didn't she wanted to end her life and wanted everyone to feel her pain. 3) some of her reasons were actually petty as fuck . How is she going to seriously put Zach on the same list as a fucking rapist?! She was actually the one to be mean to zach, she said " you couldn't just let it go" um so only you Hanna is allowed to hold grudges? Zach did not deserve at all to be blamed for the rest of his life for something so juevenile. 4) she literally kept clay as a second choice don't see how anyone thinks they were so cute when she liked Justin, then Marcus, kinda zach and then decided that she actually wanted clay. Then still expected him to make the first move . 5) it romanticized suicide a bit "I cost a girl her life because I was afraid to love her " so many teenagers thought that was so " sad and iconic " to say when in reality how disturbing that line was . There was no way clay could of possibly stopped or changed her course you can not will someone to live . I found that line from clay to be so pretentious and teenage cliche trash you can't love someone to live. Hannah. Had. A . Mental. Illness. Love . Doesn't. Fix . That. 6) The writers heavily missed their own point about " realism " by making the most unrealistic and ridiculous situations starting from something little as tatooed teens to something big as the cliches characters and making the parents spineless like every single drama show ever made. 7) Hanna expected the world to read her damn mind ( first serious sign of her mental illness. 8) hannas severe mental illness was overlooked by all the "13 reasons why" Hanna was highly needy., delusional, and was mad when people didn't know what she wanted . There were many instances that hinted she had borderline personality disorder along with depression but of course it wasn't assessed. 9) besides the rape , her real issue was mental illness, all the things that happened to Hanna happened to some of the people she blamed for her death , I,.e, Alex and Jessica, she killed herself , because her mental illness amplified everything happening to her , 10) hannas father even mentions how she was being bullied at her old school, she had already deep underlying issues surfacing. 11) Jessica was an bitch for slapping her , but Jessica can literally tell Hanna from beyond the grave to fuck off how is Hanna going to guilt Sherri for a fucking stop sign at make her feel guilty for the rest of her life but Hanna didn't do or say anything to help Jessica from being raped 12 Justin deserved Jessica slapping him, I can't not even believe there are fans calling Jessica a bitch, again, mostly teenage girls who fancy Justins character, he allowed Bryce to rape Jessica apparently because he has a sob story and a cute face he also witnessed his girlfriend go through obvious ptsd and dwindle slowly into alcoholism and he still said nothing, him having a sad home life doesn't excuse him , maybe if Bryce had a sad home life hewould be defended. I don't see anyone sympathizing with Tyler oh wait the actor isn't as good looking as Justin so no one cares . 13) the show is actually glorified cliche trash that failed to truly talk about Hannah's mental illness, the target audience is way to immature to handle the seriousness of the topics discussed, anyone is free to be complain about these reasons but this about somes up My critiques of the show. Oh I'm gonna add reason number 14 14) To any teenagers who are looking for a show to protray mental illness and teenage issues I highly recommend my mad fat diary go watch that show then this glorified trash .

[@dreamvillenae7914]

Couldn't have said it better

[@actualtrash2546]

cynthia zavala Well said. Well said 👏 👏 👏

[@lordcasinator]

cynthia zavala Thank you. I didn't really like the show and I was talking to my friends like a week after it came out and daid I didn't like it much and they all ganged up on me. I had said what 6 was and omh they all got so butthurt and brought up some other stuff and gosh.

[@cynthiazavala4507]

Izaya Orihara exactly just because something is popular doesn't mean it's good look at shows like pretty little liars and gossip girl. I did enjoy this show as much I enjoy any other teenage cliche drama but since this show marketed itself in the big boy league and over amplify the fact that they're so " different and controversial " then I will judge it harsher . The way they're marketing Dylan minette and Katherine Langford (Hanna and clay) on posters and magazines is so transparent and proves to me how much they're milking the " shipper" fan base . The fans honestly are such moronic hypocrites they're literally harassing Dylan's real life girlfriend it's like they learned nothing from the show

[@BelodyEpic]

Skins is a pretty good teen drama with good messages about mental health imo

[@elle7629]

I hate to be *_that_* person but... *_tHe BoOk WaS bEtTeR_*

[@DarkSharingan21]

Yuki C: The book didn't have as much depth imo. But it is definitely. The ending didn't do any justice for the book though. Clay just talks to the counselor, gives him the tapes, walks out of the offices and tries to respark an old friendship with Skye. The end? Not to mention the book mostly covered incidents of the past and not the present. The TV series on the other hand covered both the past and the present really well. Yeah, the ending was just as the same, with the addition of Tony and his boyfriend joining in. Hey, at least there's gonna be a 2nd season.

[@elle7629]

Clay Jensen True. I personally liked the book better... But they felt like 2 completely different stories, you know? And I really hope the 2nd season can live up to the first and that it wont seem like theyre just milking it out

[@ishroop5318]

Yuki C: me when I watched Percy Jackson and The Olympians

[@jinjunliu2401]

Yuki C: How would they make it so they aren't milking it out? I'd be amazed if they pull it off

[@autumnrenee8894]

wait... Yuki? I might know you...

[@NeonPhlox]

This video is fake, there's no way to get unlimited gold in skyrim.

[@antaris6493]

MGRacer 😂

[@gremlinonion1323]

MortalMth The best comment I've seen today...

[@Yatolc]

yes there is if you glitch with the merchants

[@UnoLeonJay]

MortalMth Console commands.

[@skylandersgiants5504]

MortalMth dawn star chest, whiterun chest, windhelm chest

[@ebbss4]

You couldn't have said it any better. As far as entertainment, it was good show. But as far as the message, they screwed up.

[@halloweenfriday]

Ebony Russell agreed! Decent show, but not as great as people make it out to be. The greatest parts of 13 Reasons Why were a couple of songs from Joy Division and The Cure. After AHS: Hotel, Stranger Things and now 13 Reasons Why, it's about time TV shows are introducing new and younger audiences with these 80's bands.

[@nicolespringer8466]

Ebony Russell agreeedd

[@lea-xr9xf]

wasnt a good show

[@sydnitheromantictaylor112]

I agree! I blame the writers for how this story got told.

[@sweetcamcia99]

Jeff deserved better INDEED.

[@hayzmation5354]

Jeff is the only likable character in my opinion lol

[@danielvaega]

"...Cartoons do that." Hits the like button.

[@bearseatbeets9657]

"Hits the like button." Hits the like button.

[@thebestame3582]

"Hits the like button. Hits the like button." Hits the like button.

[@jibrilabdi7694]

"Hits the like button. Hits the like button. Hits the like button." Hits the like button.

[@adrianpreciado8162]

"Hits the like button. Hits the like button. Hits the like button. Hits the like button." Hits the like button.

[@zaid6971]

“Hits the like button. Hits the like button. Hits the like button. Hits the like button. Hits the like button.” Hits the like button.

[@wellidkidk169]

For me it should be like 10 reasons why . Some of these stuff are stupid . Like she expected Mr Porter to run beside her and tel her : No Hannah don't do that . She can't have that . Also clay's tape is just wtf . It's her fault she told Clay to fuck off . And also the list With the bests .. yeah it can make her feel embarrassed but it's not terrible?!?!

[@wellidkidk169]

*tell

[@phantom9707]

first200 Aj true

[@maevem316]

She was mentally ill. It can make you act irrationally

[@sydth0ts43]

For the list, it was embarrassing I do admit but also like she said, it made her open season. Plus it was the thing that split apart her and her best friend, yes pretty stupid but whatever

[@kylaphilippe580]

I agree she was petty but mr.porter could have done more like called her parents told the police or even sent her to a support group if she didn’t want to tell anyone but she dead watched Jessica get raped and didn’t do anything or tell her

[@neonshark8084]

I thought he was gonna talk about "it"

[@nessa1401]

I JUST LOL'ED

[@yikes1717]

nessa - You did not just say that.. no no no I want to unread that comment. Please pass me the bleach. Welcome to your tape Nessa.

[@katygoodrich3256]

:)

[@wolfsheepicornlayixing]

😂😂😂

[@nessa1401]

i just want you to know, i laughed at this comment too! lmao! the internet is funny !

[@-mattking]

I'm not going to lie, the first episode was boring in my opinion. Also, the fact that she blames everyone else for her suicide is just petty. 🤷‍♀️

[@uptightJimmy568]

Matt She didn't blame them for her killing herself they said they were a contributing factor in her killing herself.

[@jimmydonner]

Matt no she didnt. She even says that shes the problem

[@LordBruuh]

Matt the whole thing was pretty boring tbh...

[@cherishoneal9108]

Matt I think that Hannah being vengeful towards her classmates is because her reality is distorted. Certain events happen to people that causes them to see other people in a different light.

[@thegoldenapplegamer5268]

ok 1 fuck u. yea she blames ppl for her suicide becuz they made her commit suicide 2. they fucked up her life and it was just non stop. espacilly bryce. come back when somthing happens to u

[@marcmacaluso2795]

Wait... hold up.. It's about Suicide... and they're milking it as a continual property?

[@lunad27]

Yup. The book has no sequel, so season 2 will be all original content tying up loose ends created by season 1 (all of which weren't in the book to begin with). It's gonna be a hell of a ride...

[@dandan-ww6lz]

Luna D What happened in the book end?

[@runnn783]

To me it makes me think its going to be about crime or other stuff

[@fedup4190]

Peanut Budder And Jelly She takes pills and kills herself, none of that dramatic slit wrists stuff and Clay goes to class looking at the ppl who haven't had the tapes yet pitying them

[@naumsei6221]

Luna D, cuz you can't commit suicide twice.

[@shesus1986]

Hannah was quick to jump into suicide, i felt like she's kinda using it as a threat not like she's KILLING HER OWN SELF "you're not holding me back ? welp you're gonna regret this bye world" how was anyone supposed to know that when she was pushing most of them, no one can predict your problems Hannah,also the world doesn't revolve around your probelms alone,people have their own problems too,some of the poeple on the tapes had no intention of hurting her, it's so childish almost like the reason behind her suicide is just to leave this "mastermind" revenge plan aka the tapes

[@joalan6996]

The show said is season 2 that we will learn more about Hannah"s story so she may have more things coming that we dont know about. Like she got rape and bullied and know one cared bot even the principal cared

[@Robert-fc9xz]

NIta Takeda That's a shitty excuse for bad writing.

[@somkeshav4143]

it was a guidance counselor....

[@ryandonnelly8305]

It was her own fault. She told Bryce to stop yet she told mr porter that she didn’t tell him to stop. Like mr porter couldn’t have helped bc she didn’t give him a name. Yeah he could’ve told her parents about the rape but Hannah still wouldn’t have given a name

[@ibrahimzulfiquar668]

You clearly didn't get it Most people in the tape were assholes

[@PaperParade]

One of the things that bothers me most about the show is the way that she is treated as a martyr and how the other people in her life were apparently so horrible and responsible for her problems. This girl didn't do ANYTHING to help herself, she constantly puts herself in a spot to be a victim. And I'm not saying it's her fault that she got raped, or her friend was raped, or that people were assholes to her. But she continued to be friends with crappy people. She continued to hide her feelings and lie. She never spoke to her parents or teachers or anyone about what was happening (until the end, which was BS anyway). She never really TRIED. And then her blaming everyone in her life... It makes me so mad. I've recently lost someone very close to me to suicide, and nobody tells you how much guilt suicide survivors feel. It's a really heavy burden to bear and it's also not something we ought to feel. Ultimately it isn't anyone's fault for someone else committing suicide. Even if people were jerks, it was still her decision. And the guilt she put on others, especially people who really loved her, was messed up. They didn't deserve that.

[@isabella-murphy]

PaperParade I agree 10000%

[@imstupidbut9552]

But its real people do think the way hannah does

[@PaperParade]

Yeah, it's called being an angsty teenager.

[@willowwisp6955]

PaperParade I do want to get help but my issues often seem to be underestimated :P. It makes it hard to open up

[@PaperParade]

I think that is a common way that young people, especially teenagers, feel. Your emotions and problems feel so big because you don't have the experience of a long lifetime to compare them to. I don't have any idea what's going on in your life or anything, but don't be afraid to be open and honest. Shitty people WILL come and hurt you, disappoint you. But there are good people too. You have to be persistent and, especially, decide not to give up no matter what. Life is a series of seasons.

[@kevinhobbs6064]

3:20 I despise this show because it makes a bunch of edgy teenagers think they know what suicide is. It's not like this. I lost my Emelia, and to this day I'll never know why. People don't just kill themselves because of being bullied. If they do, other issues were present. Suicide and depression are deep psychological conflicts that can rarely, if ever, be explained. I miss her so much, and I'll never know if there was anything I could have done.

[@manny7]

Mowsie Meme Sorry for your loss. R.I.P

[@KaylaJohnson1995]

Mowsie Meme sorry for your loss :(

[@ladysorenta9819]

Sorry for your loss :( :'(

[@bigguy9797]

Mowsie Meme "People don't just kill themselves because of bullying",Cough*Amanda Todd *

[@p0kiipanda]

Yes... actually... people do kill themselves over bullying... what planet do you live on? If you mean that people don't JUST kill themselves over bullying, that's correct. What the guy in the video means is that teenagers are going to watch this show and think that this is how and why people off themselves.

[@Greekakias]

Man, Jeff was the MAN! SPOILER ALERT His death hurt me more than then when she slit her wrists

[@luciferhenson7993]

sAMe

[@kendallsilver2607]

Billis Rapto You should probably space out your spoiler a bit more, just saying :/

[@2catnaps]

Jeff=main character

[@Greekakias]

OK, yes, no and no he wasn't.

[@PrincessPisces00]

Jeff is the best thing about that show. He just wanted to help his friend get a girl

[@okay6470]

There's this show called Death Parade, and the main concept doesn't center around suicide, and may not give a perfect representation, but the two times that the show involved a suicide, both characters regretted their decision to take their own lives after being able to review the events of their lives and how their death affected the people that were closest to them, namely parents grieving over their deaths. I thought it handled it better than 13 Reasons Why, which I originally had interest in.

[@michaeldeguzman3852]

An actual cartoon that's better than 13 reasons why

[@veroagustine4310]

OMG I SUPER LOVED DEATH PARADE IT WAS SOO GOODD!!

[@zad_rasera]

They were too focused to develop the episodal characters that they forgot to develop the rest of the main cast. I don't think it's been properly explained how that old dude can extend his beard like Mr. Fantastic

[@okay6470]

True, true. But I still feel that the show made some good points, nevertheless.

[@anopiniononyt9585]

Fuck man Death Parade broke my heart so bad it’s brilliant

[@joleengonzales7344]

Honestly, I really hated that show. Hannah just seemed to blame others for something she decided to do. And she had a lot of choices. SPOILER 🚨 Her best friend gets raped in her own party, and you've witnessed the whole thing. Option 1: Tell the police her best friend was raped...? Option 2: Stop while Bryce was attempting to rape her best friend...? Option 3: Make a tape about how she let her best friend get raped, and then make that best friend feel even more like shit with those stupid tapes. So many options, but she chose the ones that lead to her successful suicide. Here's another one! She gets raped in the hot tub from Bryce. Option 1: Go to your parents immediately and call the police..? OR Option 2: Make a stupid TAPE OUT OF IT

[@boxofawkwardness]

It's not that easy. You saw how Bryce acted when Justin came in? And even so she isn't the hero of this story, and second of all, even if she went to the police she had no god damn proof to back it up. When she was raped in the hot tub, 1 she did make a tape about it... and two consulting parents and such isn't easy either, and by this point it wouldn't have changed anything cause she was already raped by Bryce

[@joleengonzales7344]

Danny Mcalister it may not have changed anything but JUSTICE! She could have done something, anything to either prevent this or tell someone, but she didn't. She may not be the hero, but it's pathetic.

[@antonicatalan1118]

The police have rape kits to test Jessica and if Bryce wasnt wearing a condom that'd be proof. It's definitely not easy to tell people, god forbid your own parents about that kind of trauma, but she could have acted in a way to bring a rapist to justice and help her friend without killing herself and blaming everyone she interacted with.

[@sonjam5077]

Joleen Gonzales the saddest thing was tje end when the parents found her dead, and the mother was like "its okay you gonna be fine". Why the f did she do that not thinking what others would feel if they found you.

[@sywitz]

I know the majority of this video is you critiquing the quality of the show from a production standpoint, which is why your video unfortunately has a lot of dislikes, but I hope people realize the the show as a whole (as you said in #7) is what the real problem people have with it is. Those who have experienced suicidal thoughts or depression are going to be negatively affected by this show. It makes people aware of suicide, which is great, but it does it in a ruthless, insensitive way that offers no *solution* , no message that there *is* a reason to live, that those with depression *have* people that do care about them, rather than those terrible people at her school that the show only focused on. This is a great show for people without depression to watch, to make them more sensitive and aware that their actions cause consequences, but I wish the producers empathized more with people with suicidal thoughts and the fast that they offered no solution to cope.

[@Infinitehope6]

stxrfish I love this comment. Exactly right.

[@kornilious]

stxrfish YES EXACTLY!!

[@rafaelrubio4443]

Well I think it was good that the show enfasized that a person can feel pretty bad for the things other people do to them and as the majority of people are assholes most of the time, I see why they targeted the other side of the audience, the ones that not always bad people do harsh stuff to others, it makes people think about how their decisions can affect others and yes I've been at the other side, at the victim's side, I know how it feels, and I wouldnt recommend it to people with depression, I really wouldnt, the show in a way cam make them think that suicide can bring them the attention their parents fail to give, the love the people around them fail to give, because people that commit suicide some of the times the only think they want is that someone acknowledges them that they exist, they want to feel again, feel like they matter. So no, this show is more directed to everyone but the really unstable and hurt people that are going through it, Once you go through something as though as having suicidal thoughts, once you start moving forward, once you accept who you are, then you can understand better other people.

[@grandadmiralthrawn1122]

+Christopher Cruz "It offers no solution because that's reality for most people"....So, there isn't a solution to suicide for most people? Huh....they'd be better off just killing themselves then? What do you mean there's no solution? There's nothing a suicidal person can do? I have way too many questions about this train of thought... Yes, depict reality. But in reality, there are always choices and alternatives. If the show could show the "right way" to handle the suicidal thoughts then that'd be far more effective. It's fine to make a show about someone failing to appropriately handle suicidal thoughts. The main message is: "Be careful how you treat other or they might kill themselves" instead of: "Here's what not to do when you're suicidal". So, for anyone contemplating suicide, this show doesn't really help but instead says that suicide is mainly the fault of everyone else.

[@vivithai1128]

stxrfish This comment was pointless. if you know the real meaning of the show and what society wants- just let me explain.. People with depression do have a point or moment when they want to commit suicide. It is a *VERY* sensitive and controversial topic, But this show makes people more aware and conscious about what people with anxiety and depression a are going through without directly giving a full on lecture.. It involves rape, drama, broken friendships and trust issues too. You gotta give them credit although they did. it include what everyone feels like. I would liken to add that it is very rude and i am personally offended how you assumes people with depression, anxiety, OCD (i know it doesn't seem like a big deal but it does stress you Alot) and other mental illnesses can't enjoy 13 Reasons Why. If you watch the show and did not get help before watching some people actually talk to their parent and guardians for therapy or professional help.

[@sunnydays405]

This show managed to do what I thought was impossible: over-dramatize suicide.

[@reaganscates7009]

sunny have you ever been on tumblr

[@CarlieMae]

sunny True.

[@zebrallama6720]

The Pilots Fell Out With Orange Juice At The Disco Isn’t that the website with all of the quotes?

[@waluig3569]

Exactly.

[@ATHANwave]

The pilots Fell Out With Orange Juice at the disco, no, never, hbu lol

[@Rubashow]

Bullying is bad, mkay?

[@coldcut4751]

Rubashow south park reference

[@nickrustyson8124]

I haven't seen a movie that takes place in a High School or have College age kids that the main character isn't a loser who gets bullied in a while now.

[@Sup-fj1hu]

Prepare too come under attack by 13 reasons why fans lmao

[@taliakellegg5978]

CrazyBowserBros 13 reasons why 13 year olds reasons why the show is dark and deep

[@swoup79]

CrazyBowserBros fucking facts lmaoo

[@ModrnSktzo]

13 reasons why i blamed this poor schmuck

[@cowboylike_zoe]

CrazyBowserBros yep

[@teroline4595]

Watch your back little ******* 😂😂😂😂

[@sonjam5077]

I find it very wrong that she blamed others that she comitted suicide, and she was a total drama queen sometimes.

[@e.t4635]

that's why teen girls love and identify so much with this show. most of them are privileged feminists who blame anything and everything on other things/men

[@maschaorsomething]

Esau Cousin Nobody mentioned radical feminists, dipshit.

[@shesus1986]

exactly..she's still the one who killed herself, with her own hands.. having alex, justin, jessica, clay on the tapes was so wrong of her, she left them all paranoid and having to deal with so much problems,not just them but also her parents, heck they all have and had even worse problems than her, she's just so selfish and self-centered

[@uptightJimmy568]

sonja She didn't blame them for her suicide she expresses how they had a huge role in it.

[@stephaniearamillo6932]

*yells at Clay and tells him to leave* “why did you leave?”

[@apoint24]

#7 and #12... Thank you!! It's so incredibly frustrating that people don't understand these.

[@tiagov.s.2693]

The message of the show isn't for people who are suffering, it's to warn the normal person, that if you know a family member or a friend who suffers from this, to go and help them before it's too late. That's a hell of a message in my opinion...

[@jonathangonzalez9673]

Tiago V.S. if you need a netflix show to do that then there's your answer, i suffer anxiety and depression plus I'm and introvert and I asked my family not to watch it since it gives the wrong approach and sad thing is they did consult a psychologist for this and he itself told them the points they shouldn't expose and how to properly explain it to the people, and they did completely the opposite

[@tiagov.s.2693]

The wrong approach? All the show is saying is to just talk to the silent girl in class who has slices in her wrist, or to talk to the guy who always sits alone to eat. Because just one nice act from a random person can help them alot. If it's wrong to approach people who are suffering and offer them your help then I have no idea what's right.

[@tamsinjane8699]

theres nothing wrong with doing random acts of kindness, but the message is that if you dont, you are responsible if that person kills themself. thats wrong. its that person's choice and responsibility and no one owes them any special treatment. its called standing on your own two feet.

[@deandrejohnson7752]

Tamsin Jane The message was not that anyone deserves special treatment or that you are a bad person if you don't talk to someone, honestly do you have any thinking skills at all? Being raped, bullied, harassed, can lead to depression and in worse cases suicide. Yes the person who killed themselves ultimately decided to that but if it wasn't for people who had mindset like yours to think talking about others and being rude to others is ok and that it doesn't effect a person you are responsible for bein a FACTOR in someone taking their life.

[@heroinshooter1991]

I don't watch 13RW because of the unrealistic and one-dimensional teenagers. Like in the beginning, when those two girls are taking a selfie in front of Hannah's locker, I'm pretty sure teenagers are not that damn sick. Anyway, the characters are so unrealistic & unlikeable, poorly written. And characters don't have to be likeable, but they have to at least be understandable. Hell, the teens of the anime film Koe no Katachi (highly recommend) are way better written. They're actions are understandable, they have likeable traits, & can be terrible people, just read/watch Koe no Katachi bcuz its hard to explain.

[@the_architect..]

Jazzy Jasmine If you don't watch the show how do you know the characters are one-dimensional? You're seriously so out of touch with reality that you think taking a selfie next to a dead girl's locker is unrealistic?

[@fhjskdnfuiwenfr1237]

no because you dont have netflix.

[@TheFPSKingsGaming]

I won't watch mostly cause people tell me that they think they ruined the whole point of suicde like they made it cool

[@kattiedonky599]

"Im pREttY SUrE TEenagERs areN'T thAt daMn SIcK" *laughing in the background* i wish

[@mashionflamiz9000]

I agree. The only part I RESPECTFULLY disagree on is that teenagers aren't that sick. There was a kid in my middle school who tried messing with my friends pants trying to pull them down. Everyone is capable of some pretty messed up crap

[@DanielaxMarie]

I was lonely and suicidal in HS and honestly...the message of pretend kindness kills me the most. I remember this one girl came to sit next to me at lunch because I was sitting alone, and I hated it. The whole time I felt awkward cuz the kindness felt so forced, I could just feel her pitying me and I felt pathetic. Clay deciding to hang out with Skye just because he feels guilty is wrong imo. I know I don't speak for everyone who's suicidal but this is just my own opinion from my own experience with mental illness.

[@cyan7181]

I actually did sit next to another girl one time and that was because I genuinely wanted her to feel welcome and not at all alone. But then again people tell me I am a genuine person so I know it doesn't seem forced - since it isn't. I think you should try to see things from the other's point of view instead of judging someone thinking to know they pretend things. Clay decided to hang out with Skye for whatever reasons (to me it was more a "carpe diem" moment, he had wanted to hang out with her for some time, but now after understanding that things can change on their own he decided to try and form a new friendship), but I didn't see any guilt in his actions. He didn't even have anything to be guilty for, he literally was not in the list because he wasn't one of the reasons of Hannah's death.

[@swiftlylovestruck]

DanielaxMarie He actually wanted to hang out again with Skye 7 episodes or more back. He asked her "Why did we grew apart, I hate that"

[@swiftlylovestruck]

Benelicious Why don't YOU pull it and leave this world with one douchebag less?!

[@YkHalloween]

Well, while I understand your point of view, there's really no way to tell. I've been on the other side, where I'm trying to help someone out but they just won't accept me. I'm either too kind, too fake, or doing it to pass time. When, in reality, when a person feels THAT lost, you can only do so much. There's nothing you can say or do to convince them you do have good intentions... There's only so much you can do. And the worst part is, as time goes on, you wonder what else could have happened for that person to trust you more. And maybe there wasn't anything, because unfortunately people break and you can try to help repairing the damage, but it'll be up to them whether they want to give happiness a second chance or not. "You can only help someone who accepts your help", isn't that correct?

[@DanielaxMarie]

Yeah, I'd say that's correct. If someone doesn't want help, there's nothing you can do. It's their choice. You can keep trying if you want, but it's only going to drain you in the long run.

[@nanadl1172]

Am I the only one that found it hard to sympathize with the girl? I do understand what was affecting her but at some points it seems like she was looking for the trouble. For example, who would go to the house ,and undress, to get in the pool of the person SHE KNEW was a rapist and didn't give a shit and keep trying to get close to the people who clearly where responsible for most of the situations? idk but that's what I think and that's why I didn't like it 😒

[@caravallegend]

Naihomy Diaz Lopez it's still not her fault for getting r aped 😑

[@mosesafful4200]

LBBH TeamCRYBABY it is she could have avoided it

[@mosesafful4200]

LBBH TeamCRYBABY if she wasnt being stupid and didnt get into n The tub because it would have been avoided she chose to put herself in danger

[@caravallegend]

Moses Afful wtf is wrong with you

[@mosesafful4200]

Just to move her to sucide

[@cl0utg0ggles54]

Pardon me but you hurt my feelings Like if you get this 😂. THANKS FOR THE LIKES AND REPLIES GUYS ❤️❤️😂

[@AdelinaMonroe]

Abbi the living meme lol

[@lyricbot8513]

Abbi the living meme I don't get it but I liked it anyway

[@user-sr1pp7sv9q]

Hannah said it to clay while they were eating lunch

[@grimmm421]

*starts crying*

[@satsumas1]

Wasn't it "excuse me,"?

[@sarahwalter7198]

This show romanticize suicide too much. A friend of mine committed suicide and her school told everyone she moved so they wouldn't look bad. The only people who went to her funeral were her parents and myself I'm sorry but that's what suicide is not this

[@the_architect..]

Sarah Walter On another comment you mentioned how you haven't seen the show. May I ask how you know it romanticizes suicide? Or you're just repeating what everyone else is saying?

[@DepressedCowboysFan_]

Sarah Walter you even said yourself that you've never and will never watch it so how do you know it romanticized suicide? Just cause everyone else said so? I finished it earlier and never saw once where it was romanticized and it was clearly about what she was going through and the reasons she felt she needed to take her life, it even showed her killing her self, nothing romantic about it

[@heroinsahs]

ZerooZ Her and the main male character were literally love birds the entire show.

[@DepressedCowboysFan_]

VII that in no way romanticizes suicide, that's literally your typical teen relationship

[@sarahwalter7198]

The_Architect I've seen enough of it to know

[@candlebelle5283]

It immediatly hurt my heart when he said something like ''to entertain you for 13 hours'', it totally sounds like a waste of a part of my life, wich I could have used for something more important like working on my future. 13 hours I shouldnt have wasted on a serie like this, that´s what this video is telling me. Should I feel bad? I dunno. Maybe. Yes, because of this video. RIP 13 hours...

[@gremlinonion1323]

candlebelle You can watch an actually good show like one punch man in less than 13 hours

[@thatvampigoddess6582]

candlebelle hurted isn't a tense

[@candlebelle5283]

Black cat joker, yes you´re right, my English language isn´t really good.

[@radpunk5144]

If you disliked the show or learned nothing from it, then yes, maybe you should feel bad for it. But I did the same and felt like I made a good decision. So do not let anyone tell you that it was bad to waste your time for your entertaining. There is nothing wrong with that

[@michellepauling7449]

Eh I watched 9 seasons of how I met your mother for the shittiest finale of all time so I'd say you're in the clear

[@kingvince7328]

Why so many dislikes? He was right on pretty much everything. The show was awful.

[@rahulmate7264]

- bunch of sad cunt teenagers.

[@alanih3276]

people including myself like the show.

[@travismoore1112]

Tried to get through this show. Thought it would be meaningful, smart and edifying but no. Couldn’t even get through the third episode because of the dumb CW teen foolery.

[@accountnolongerinuse2044]

People kept on talking about it so I finally sat my ass down and watched it. I felt nothing. It was beyond boring and tryhard edgy.

[@Xehanort10]

The show's psycho fans who think watching and liking it somehow makes them geniuses.

[@phantomv9774]

I find it funny that Hannah told that girl(i forgot her name) to call the police when she ran over the stop sign but doesn't call the police when she gets raped or seeing someone else get raped

[@pikapoo18]

Velle 1997 why would you call the police to a house full of drunk teenagers?

[@MusOfficial323]

pikapoo18 I mean, I agree, I ain't no snitch or nothing, but are you saying that if one illegal thing is going on then that makes all other bad things acceptable?

[@ibrahimzulfiquar668]

@@pikapoo18 fair point

[@cassia-andor6445]

I hope you mean ironic and not ha-ha funny. That was screwed up, though. I understand it’s hard to report rapes, there’s so much stigma around reporting them, although it’s kind of odd, in a good way, Law & Order: SVU seems to have helped in that area, but not enough.

[@SinisterSkyline]

"The show which is life-changing!... because, I guess, people need a show to teach them to be nice to other people." *Fucking* *golden*

[@adoral.9227]

SinisterSkyline Well sometimes people need to see their emotional impact on others even if it's through a show to realize the importance of being nice.

[@joyfulmelly9114]

SinisterSkyline yea ikr, it's not like we hear about suicides every week or so right?

[@moveslikeninja1]

yeah yeah, I wonder why suicides happen, and so does bullying, and rape, and why some suffer so fucking much. Because people are already just so damn NICE to others, right?

[@Imanhizzle]

SinisterSkyline THANK YOU!! I feel the EXACT same way!! I made my own take on this as well, please check out my video on my channel and tell me what you think❤️☺️

[@SinisterSkyline]

+Adora L. What? Sorry, that's naïve nonsense. Abusive people will be abusive regardless of pop culture; this show can't get rid of abusive people any more than disney films can end all dictatorships around the world. The world simply doesn't work like that.

[@jessica-hf5zy]

welcome to your tape.

[@mugomogu2379]

Jes G. nice, watch the end of the video. what the fuck dude.

[@MintyBlueNobody]

that's a fucked up joke to make after what he said for #12.

[@talltony7290]

lmao the end makes it better

[@AzuArts52]

Jes G. XD

[@GENOSAD]

Welcome to your tape, There's no rewinding. Even while we sleep, We will find you Watching at the late-night hour, Turn your back on the world of ours, Everybody wants to binge watch shows. (I have no idea why this comment enticed me into writing a crappy parody of "Everybody wants to Rule the World," but here you go.)

[@lean9303]

One part that made me a bit mad was when hannah put clay on the tapes for legit no reason and literally said herself " u shouldn't be on these tapes" yet still blames him for petty shit that she messed up herself...not to mention that she literally caused clay to have mental breakdowns and cry for her

[@lean9303]

And can someone explain why she kept pulling up party's with toxic people like bryce and Justin that she knows could take advantage of her and they did........ like cmon if i was her i would try everything to avoid those two boys after what they did to Jessica and others

[@MissyNizzy]

Ffs so many butthurt people disliking this video

[@mollyrock.z]

Niza S. nah just people who don't agree with him......you know people can have opinions without being "butthurt" 😧

[@DrGPaw007]

okay jade, 80% of butthurt people and 20% of people with there opinion

[@aliets]

they're all opinions, it's just that some are alot more radical than others

[@renirules]

Don't agree with all you said. But your 12) is spot on. Why the fuck are the other characters to blame for Hannah's death? She took her own life. Her responsibility.

[@pinkplight9992]

Russell BELL I never understood Hanna, if she so strong to actually kill her self the way she did then why font she actually seek MF help. it's her fault she died.

[@YayoiFujoshi]

Russell BELL Another person would have reacted differently. The character of Hannah is indeed weirdly developped to me....

[@tylerdreary523]

Righteous Red she did seek help and was told to just get over it

[@sarahlinnea3547]

Ryan Alwill she didn't say what was wrong tho,it's hard to understand if she doesn't open up

[@stevepenn2582]

Still not his fault, people are responsible for their own actions no matter their state of mind. Suicide is self murder.

[@Retro_Boomin]

13 reasons why the book, made my friends sister try to commit suicide like how Hannah baker did, and with the tapes

[@medicmerk]

umm,i don't know what to say did this really happen?

[@melissamartinez5771]

Deathbysnoosnu6 Bluhm oh my god i am so sorry , people think that's a cool thing but it is NOT

[@hannahkirk4182]

Deathbysnoosnu6 Bluhm no offense to them, but if you are going to commit suicide, you probably will. However people will copy methods like in said media. But the media itself doesn't factor in unless their is already underlining desire.

[@melissamartinez5771]

Hannah Kirk they won't if they realize how important they are and if they ask for help or talk to the hotlines , and it will get better

[@libbybollinger5901]

Hannah Kirk as someone who has been suicidal, that's not at all accurate. Suicide is an impulsive decision, brought about by a fucked up state of mind. I remember whenever I 'attempted' (I didn't really have access to methods of suicide, thank god) I would always wake up the morning after, and be so glad that I was still alive.

[@cges76]

Yes, yes, yes. I couldn't agree more with you. These idea of using suicide as revenge, as stated by Hannah and her narrative in the tapes, is very disturbing. This whole message of how nice Hannah was and how much we miss her, and look what we "made her do" seems to validate suicide as an option, and this is very dangerous message to send.

[@aayzhuhh]

The counselor shouldn't have been on the tapes because she explained consensual sex. He had to tell her to try to get over it because she wouldn't tell him who would do it. She was being difficult and there was nothing he could do.

[@Roan.bot.]

Moonlight In space for gods fucking sake thank you! A person who finally realized Hannah's true problem. She isolated herself and just became bent on see what wrong around her that the first mistake someone who try's to help her makes turns into an explosion. She told Clay "Get the fuck out" multiple times and went on to say "none of you cared enough." Im glad that goth girl said a lot of people goes through what she did and suicide was for the weak because for a second I though this show was actually letting every character take the blame for her.

[@aayzhuhh]

Johnathan Roan I agree. It seemed to me as if she wanted people to run after her. Like in the last episode. She wanted The consular to just run after her and that's not what people do. I know the show is based on the book and the book isn't based on a true story but she seriously needs a reality check on life. Just my opinion

[@trustworthy_hypocrite1838]

I think that Hannah put to much pressure on some characters. Like she expected people to chase after her. She had so many opportunities to get help. I'll never understand what Hannah went through but at the end of the day Hannah took her own life. I especially felt terrible for Clay,because he cared for her so much.

[@aayzhuhh]

Iris Invisible I agree so much. She expected people to just chase after her..that's not real life. People don't just chase after you..

[@Oceaan25]

Well, yeah, she isn't meant to be free of blame, she has her flaws too. The people who made it explicitly say this too. And Porter had his heart in the right place, but to be able to really pull information out of someone, or get them to open up in a conversation... there is a reason people get schooled in that kind of stuff. He just wasn't capable of pulling it off with Hannah.

[@sydneyp7867]

The idea of revenge suicide is so dangerous and selfish.

[@sydneyp7867]

this is a good good good video

[@nyx0838]

Sydney P it really is selfish, I would think more of my parents than anybody else. There are other options for revenge.

[@thatonekrishna9139]

It was a suicide. Not a revenge suicide. She did not kill herself to get back at people. She did it because she truly believed that the world would be better without her in it. It's not that she doesn't care about her parents, or she doesn't love them but she believed her parents would be better off without her. It was stated in the last episode. If she wanted revenge, the tapes would have been sent straight to the police or her parents. She wants people to see that even if you are a protagonist in your life story, you may appear as an antagonist in other people's story.

[@nyx0838]

So why did she send those tapes to those people? Didn't she do it so they can live their lives with the guilt of having something to do with her death? Why would you assume your parents will be better off without you? I'm pretty sure they wouldn't raise you for all those years just for you to think that way. The series was trying to tell people to be nice, the message was not properly delivered, but I get that it happens in real life it's just that they could've proved that there are other options besides suicide.

[@sailorastra8174]

Its called mental fucking illness. she was sick! gosh yall acting as if she was healthy physically and mentally. She needed 'treatment', she need pure love, care and advice to help her think straight and correct. If you dont have any idea about mental illness then shut tf up since all u care about is what is 'logical' in UR opinion and not the mentally sick's point of view

[@xxxlimitlessxxx1545]

Hannah shouldn't have died; it made things more complicated, and unnecessary. The show should have based her suicide attempt on the book so she could survive and recover as Clay listens to her tapes. In my opinion, most of the people on her tapes should not have been there. But Hannah was young and hadn't developed the proper skills to cope with what was happening around her.

[@joalan6996]

Actually all the people reseaved the tape this something and i feel different from you because i feel like is showed a message like you did something to her and you one of the reason why is not like one of the person was the hole reason why like everyone that had the tapes had a part of the reason why she did committed suicide and it shows that suicide happens often because of exemple,rape,bullying,and more...

[@Brathalia]

xXx L i m i t l e s s xXx yes!! Or they could’ve like revealed in the end that she actually ended up going to a rehab center, and her parents kept it to themselves. I agree that it should show she got better because at least then there is hope for people who feel suicidal.

[@cassie4705]

They should’ve done a second season where she’d only attempted, like the literal alternative to suicide with hope in the end as she moves on

[@pabloavalos6000]

Without her death, the show and or book would have ended in 5 episodes. The only person she could attack when alive would have been Bryce as he is the only one that committed a real crime against her.

[@beelzebubisme]

xXx L i m i t l e s s xXx that was the point in the book she didn't die but if they made her live, it would have made the purpose not as serious the purpose being suicide if she didn't kill her self people wouldn't take it seriously bc even after the show people still don't people will watch it and think you just need to be nice and then just go back to not worrying about suicide

[@saadasaad8538]

I just think if Hannah wore pants the day she kissed Justin none of this would have happened.

[@sharonspears-mandeville2369]

Johnny Carlos or just stayed home and watched some sappy movie on Netflix (or whatever the show's version of it) instead.. Or beat the person who had..assaulted her into complete mush and got some street cred about it at school as well instead dammit... Geez... Eh..?

[@Madg0blinn]

true that omg

[@burritocat310]

Johnny Carlos lol, all this drama because of the way she dressed during that day

[@jhzwwe123]

Or if Justin didn't send the pic. Yall so quick to blame women for what they're wearing, over someone elses out of pocket actions.

[@likhitkajrolkar9820]

It's called "The butterfly effect"

[@ronyellaz]

i love how everyone hates this video, i liked the video and didnt watch the show but the show doesnt seem terrible i might like it but everything deserves critisism.

[@critNnn]

Absolutely right, everything deserves some criticism, but a lot of this guy's arguments, seemed to have completely missed the mark. For example, he seems to think a show can only focus on one thing at a time, such as the message/s or the characters, which isn't really the case. Personally, from what the directors and cast said in the beyond episode, it was intended to be a social commentary on the stigmatisation of suicide and how it was dealt with, including blame. The creator of this video, however seemed to think that they should have tried to only focus on the message. But personally, I think you can have really fleshed out characters, that at base levels, create archetypes. Not only does this make the show seem fuller, it actually allows it to focus on more than one theme. I don't understand why people seem to think shows and films should only really have 1 message. I know plenty of works of art and literature that have vast messages, and some that have none, and it is left open ended. I mean the show did fail, don't get me wrong, I'm not blind to it's fallacies. The melodrama, whilst very similar to most current day high-schoolers, is too classical for the undertone of the show. However, the fact that the tapes are just one girl's perspective may give reasoning to that, as everyone asserts their opinion over fact when it comes to retelling events that may have happened to them, such as Zach dropping the letter. I know it wasn't perfect, but it certainly wasn't the garbage this guy made it out to be.

[@betta4454]

BOT criteNn agree

[@ninnaaaaaaaaaa]

ronyella stm Honestly he may have gotten a lot of things wrong but take his word for it the show sucks. I just finished it because I read the book and felt like I had to. I know the producers and writers tried to send a good message but throughout the season the message isn't really there. It's just great entertainment but nothing else.

[@christoffelmiddel6663]

the only way to understand suicide is too experience the feeling and thoughts of hannah throughout the show and the show does it correctly and understandebly. The guy who made this video hasn't experienced any of that, and is unable to judge the show.

[@Yurio]

I enjoyed it but I feel it's not as good as everyone says

[@ichigouchiha3647]

THANK YOU SOMEBODY SAID IT 👏👏👏THAT SHOW SUCKED SORRY NOT SORRY

[@shmoogle7489]

king Savage I GOT ATTACKED BY LITERALLY EVERYONE IN MY GRADE WHEN I SAID IT SUCKS

[@nemisisomen]

If you are a victim of bullying and are suicidal, you are gonna place yourself in Hannah's shoes. If you are a douchebag, there is a 90% chance you will still be a douchebag. But 100% of depressed suicidal people will watch the show and become more of a "victim". Even Hannah became equally a douchebag before her death and more so ever after it. How is she different. She bullied Alex and he killed himself. Everyone overlooks that. This show is not cool. Not gonna recommend it to anyone.

[@swiftlylovestruck]

Nemo Bullied?? You mean told the truth about everyone that hurt her? Lol ok, if that's bullying then I'm a bully now 100%... Alex killed himself because he couldn't manage not only the guilt but the fake people around him. There was hardly anyone standing by him, even before he committed suicide. Plus he was dumped by Jessica. Hannah was just one of the domino's.

[@bakago4746]

Nemo woah. im not a douche for not being bullied

[@onee]

Nemo How did she bully Alex? Alex just couldn't handle it anymore due to his feelings of guilt.

[@jositamu551]

Alex didn't kill himself

[@josevilla335]

Queen Josi He TRIED to kill himself :3

[@ambercotrone]

Your explanation at the end made me realize that it accomplishes the very opposite of prevention. Wow, how did I not see that before?

[@aceraverage8468]

Amber Cotrone was

[@superquietbunny]

The book wasbt that great either, it gained popularity because it talked about suicide. But I think it talked about suicide in the wrong way. Hanna was a shitty character. There are other YA novels that deal with suicide so much better. But this book.... Just kind of glorified suicide.

[@tamsinjane8699]

literally amen

[@bellajohnston452]

Ceecee M me personally I don't think the book glorified suicide. I read it like two years ago and remember it bringing me to tears or some shit. The show was awful but I feel that the book did a lot better job at portraying than the show did

[@adoral.9227]

Ceecee M I never read the book, I've only seen the TV show, but I do agree with Hannah being a bad person in general and both forms of 13 Reasons Why being subordinate ways of suicide prevention. I don't think it glorified suicide though, especially in the show where it showed the impact on not only her but the people affected by it as well, which wasn't shown as "glorious"

[@superquietbunny]

Isabella Johnston​​ Adora L.​​ It kinda glorified suicide because it showed Hanna as sort of heroic for leaving those tapes to those who hurt her. She was "teaching them a lesson" and became almost heroic to the readers because of that. which sort of left the message that suicidal people can go on with their ideation because they can do what Hanna did - leave a note that will affect people and learn from her suicide. If you really wanted people to not commit suicide, this is not how you go about it. ATZ was right that showing how graphic her death was wasn't going to stop people from killing themselves. The real message of the book was be nice to people, every little action can affect someone and these small hurts could build up and lead to suicide. It was a good message. But you taught that lesson by killing yourself? You just set up an example for other hurt and suicidal people. Great.

[@postingful]

Yes, that's what I was thinking after the show. I liked it but I didn't think it's a "suicide preventer", altough I didn't think it glorifies it either. I just think that even from the title if you have some people that wronged you you can get revenge on them by leaving these "reasons" behind and killing yourself. They didn't handle that situation perfectly.

[@yaraa9351]

clay explains why he took so long to listen to the tapes. he said it gave him panic attacks and made him sad. and people still ask why it took so long. plus the point was that each episode was about one person..

[@ToriHiragana]

Yara Alawi plus it's fiction. In fiction the writers can do whatever they went. They made up the "panic attack" idea to draw out the series, nothing more. It's dumb writing

[@kagerodgers1515]

toriloveSubarukun in what way is that dumb writing. please oh great writer explain to us the perfect way to show a teenage boy taking his time going through the tapes and listening to his dead friends voice. tell us how you would handle it . would you not have panic attacks hearing your friends voice over and over and over again. and knowing that at some point your tape will come up and you will be part of the reason she killed her self. fuck out of here with bad writting, your hopping on the hate train because it is cool and not given actual reasoning but bullshit ones.

[@KBBoomin]

Yara Alawi everything that happened to Hannah was her fault she put her self in almost all those situations, clay was there for her the whole time but pushed him always. Hannah kept on going back to the "cool kids" even after they did something bad to her acting like they would change. Also the show did Jeff dirty fuck 13 excuses for suicide

[@savannahrae4755]

Yara Alawi and his night (and day) mares

[@joegreen7361]

Yara Alawi all these things are true but it still doesn't stop the show from being boring in my opinion :/ sorry!

[@ananimeplace.3808]

He playing that Kendrick Lamar lmfaooo nice taste

[@smoothred9453]

yuuul

[@theneovas1]

DENILSON THOMAS. Fear

[@soka227]

why god why god do i gotta suffer

[@noa613]

ezwar99 inside ma dna

[@axeledongo7846]

Damn

[@blunew467]

Bryce Walker just seems like Harvey Weinstein in high school.

[@babaksenia2532]

this show is ok.... I used to be crazy over it like everyone else, but I realized its stupidity before I saw this video

[@e.rivers9645]

fagasstraps same

[@BoopBoop508]

Yeah i once i looked back on it and my opinion changed. I then realized hannah caused a potential school shooting and drove her ex friend to kill himself

[@elissa1660]

fagasstraps same bro

[@vre4179]

Another thing is, when I watched 13rw I was 13, I have many people in my year that think it is cool and trendy or something to have mental illnesses like depression etc. (Which are serious issues but not when some 13yo girl says she depressed when her mum yells at her or something). When there are people like this that watch the show it concerns me to think of how they would respond

[@the_architect..]

Vita rimmer The show is rated 16+, so that means the producers are aware people under 16 may not get the message. That's like blaming Pulp Fiction for not being suitable for kids.

[@vre4179]

The_Architect yeah I know that but many younger people do watch it

[@the_architect..]

Vita rimmer I know that, but again, that's not a problem with the show itself. A lot of kids watch inappropiate things. That's what parenting control is for.

[@nellieeess]

The_Architect lol I'm 12 and I watched it when I was 11 😂😂

[@sup4744]

Question: Does your friend have depression or does she just feel sad when her mom yells at her? Because feeling sad when something bad happened to you is normal. And while those bad things could lead to depression, depression is still a mental disoder where no matter what you feel helpless even when put into a healthy environment I'm nor accusing that your friend may not have depression, but just in case

[@ahhh4117]

As someone who was formerly suicidal, I’d like to add that yes it’s a combination of things. But like my mind hurt, my body was always so tired, and emotionally I was numb. But it’s so much more than that. When you’re suicidal everything is your fault. And if I ended it, I *knew* it’d destroy the people around me. I was wronged by some people and on a very deep sick level I wanted them to hurt. But I learned to not think like that, and how to cope with everything. This show grossly depicts a very hard thing to live through. I was still very suicidal when the show came out and I watched it. It was SO TRIGGERING. I began to imagine others missing me, my funeral, my locker and all that. I never finished the show and I tried to while recovering and I found it repulsive. How DARE they romanticize they worst part of my life and those visuals I thought up in my head when I was in unimaginable pain. This is worse than Riverdale.

[@sannakarppinen4163]

I have tried to commit suicide three times, twice eating pills and last time cutting my wrists, because of bullying and the sexual molestation by my brothers godfather, but when the thirth time failed I looked at the mirror and at that moment I chose to live and get help and get stronger to survive and after 14 years of therapy I m now a survivor and happily married and I m a mother to a wonderful boy. Staying alive was the best decision I have ever made. I M a proud survivor and so are you. I hate this show because it gives the young teens false hope and it glorifies the notion that if life gets in the drain only answer is suicide and I think that this show does lot more damage than good.

[@noonebossesthegarnet2890]

I am SO proud of the both of you!!

[@ibrahimzulfiquar668]

No Wtf That's just you This show is great

[@ibrahimzulfiquar668]

@@sannakarppinen4163 no not at all You completely got it wrong This show is totally against suicide It's one of the best shows ever

[@miasalvaba6957]

@@ibrahimzulfiquar668 you’re disgusting.

[@Eis7]

Murder, rape, and other illegal activity. Any remember these memories from high school? No. Neither do I.

[@avalasialove]

Me neither. But maybe I was just sheltered as a teenager since I went to a Catholic school. Oh wait, I attended a few classes at a public school for part of the day my Senior year and I still didn’t encounter any of that.

[@fnnylambert3369]

The real question is.... Why is Tony so hot????

[@rafaelrubio4443]

Tony, the real MVP, fucking Clay acting all like a moron with him. Tony was the one that after every scene that he appeared I felt relieved, because i knew he would straighten up things into the right direction. Stupid Clay ... he does nothing to further the plot ...

[@voiidmilk1213]

Fnny Lambert Hate to break it to ya, but Tony is Gay.. Same for Alex. I don't hate or even dislike gays! I'm just sayin.. It fine to have crushes tho.. I thought he was hot. Then. My dad told me he's gay. Sorry pal;;

[@fnnylambert3369]

TheFlirtyLion I know that but he's hot anyway

[@Chefjohn4923]

real question why don't go do something useful

[@houseofbaIlons]

Fnny Lambert I think Justin is so fucking hot

[@LifeIsABeach3210]

Veronica Mars handled rape much better, other topics like suicide and school shootings were also touched upon in a more realistic way.

[@victoriamocelin5325]

That's the proof teen shows can be great.

[@MaryamZahidAnObsessiveArrowFan]

LifeIsABeach3210 agreed

[@andrewrogers2575]

"People need a show in order to teach them to be nice to other people." In my opinion, it teaches people what could possibly happen if your a dick to people. And it teaches how everything you say has a big effect on that persons life.

[@swiftlylovestruck]

The Poppers Exactly. He is so narrow minded that he ignores that EVEN CLAY, one of the purest kids, still managed to hurt Hannah's, Alex's or Tyler's feelings at many points. They teach good people to be cautious.

[@enochannor6550]

She could of also opened up more to telling people how she felt instead of thinking people are mind readers. Clay did only one mistake and it literally was not a big one.

[@neydacarranzae]

The Poppers You shouldn't need a show to tell you that YOUR ACTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES AND EFFECTS ON OTHERS. Have people become so un-empathic that we need to be taught about how things you do affect others? That's, like, something you learn in preschool or kindergarten, not when you're on the cusp of adulthood or adolescence.

[@enochannor6550]

Thank you, someone that understands logic. This show is ridiculous on so many levels.

[@Balder94]

yes they have. Its awesome that you haven't noticed, I am glad you have such great people around you, and don't read the news and stuff, but Yes, many people seem to have become so un-empathic. It would be great if we all learned it in preschool, and more importantly, woulnd't forget it after that, but yes, many people have forgotten by the time they are an adult. I'd say most adults have forgotten, often more so then adolosents.

[@totallytubular8760]

I personally felt like she had no reason to kill herself.

[@reagam2393]

Denise Ringo same!! Personally I feel like she was W A Y too dramatic

[@sup4744]

Denise Ringo The thing is, she had a lot of mental disorders that everyone dismissed as her being dramatic If this show went in more depth of how mental disorders work, it would've been fine and actually educational to those unaware of how mental disoders work. Unfortunately the creators ignored all the recommendations and warnings from psychologists and chose to "romanticize" the idea of suicide.

[@totallytubular8760]

femaleskater1185 Having a shitty life isn’t justification for suicide. She should’ve talked to someone.

[@CarlieMae]

Denise Ringo Honestly, she cared enough to make the tapes, so why didn’t she care enough to live to see the consequences of those tapes?????

[@alexwayland377]

femaleskater1185 i think she made herself most of this problems

[@candysoto8533]

Reason 13 Jeff really deserved better 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@virtualc00chie83]

Candy Soto he was there only one i tolerated lmao

[@mackiem4936]

Candy Soto No he didn't. He had 15 minutes of screen time. Sure he was a good person, but he wasn't a well developed character

[@Breezypeezy]

I don't understand what the big deal about him is. He was hardly in the show itself

[@hope-nw7wy]

YES

[@paulap4522]

ma name jeff

[@imashthatsatotheshush5735]

I will tell you something. I suffered from depression and anxiety. I hurt myself.I did. Because it distracted me from the emotional and mental pain people were causing me . And it seemed right. Now that right there is a fucked up brain , and you can't blame that person right there. Because they are mentally ill . Now that I've somewhat recovered. I've started to realised, my reasons were stupid and my brain was fucked up. It's a big world.You have more to live for. My point is, I do understand what Hannah went through maybe not entirely but I do, but blaming others for what she did was not justified on her part and nor was it fair for others. She could have used a little help.

[@fabdav333]

I'm Ash , that's A to the Shush! glad you are doing better, keep the spirit up!

[@nicic1614]

If you really did hurt yourself you wouldnt be posting it in the comments of a video that is about the flaws of a tv show, and that doesnt distract you from the "emotional and mental pain" thats just attention seeking, so stop with the bs

[@fabdav333]

It's Strilioc dude shut up, he can post whatever he wants and tell his story on youtube or elsewhere, stop with the hate, you are not doing anything good for the world by putting this comment, go fys

[@nicic1614]

well if he can post whatever he wants i can post whatever i want im just expressing my feelings to the attention seeking teens

[@imashthatsatotheshush5735]

It's Strilioc *_Think I'm "attention seeking" ? Call 1-800-FCK-OFF right now!_*

[@suwugar]

People got so butthurt wtf...

[@imstupidbut9552]

no people have their own ideas just because they don't agree does not mean they are butthurt

[@suwugar]

thatbitchonline 100 Well, yeah duh lol. Like obviously people have their own ideas, but I'm just saying that some people were butt hurt

[@horsefan616]

In my opinion 13 reasons why is one of the worst shows netflix has produced

[@joalan6996]

菜奈 why because its shows what happen in real life and how she had no one to talk to her or to help and all the sudden she dies and everyone cares about her.

[@lmaothischannelsnotcomingb3616]

No, because in the show, she manipulates everyone to think it’s their fault for her dying, when it was actually her own. Seriously, some of the reasons she puts on the tapes are stupid and petty, plus she had all the opportunities to tell someone about her problems. So no, she isn’t completely sympathetic. Did I mention 13 Reasons Why dramatized suicide and depression?

[@FooeyMcgooey]

菜奈 I've seen worse

[@inmyroom8335]

菜奈 I don’t think you’ve seen iron fist

[@coldcut4751]

the gaming jack come on dude iron fist was a pretty good show

[@Rebel_Friend]

"Life Changing." *Girl commits suicide, Leaves Cusset Tape instead of getting help, 90% of it is flashbacks, drama that serves no purpose, tries to be even more edgy than a kitchen knife*

[@andrewburger8752]

I agree with all your points except for number 8. From what I remember, none of the races in the book were specified so making the show diverse really didn't have an effect on the quality in my opinion.

[@coolsnake224]

Don’t forget everything in it was completely cliche and just outright cringey

[@magolor7856]

“You’re an actual nerd aren’t you?” Best line of the show! 10/10!!

[@ibrahimzulfiquar668]

No That's just you

[@kokichiyoursupremeleader.1713]

3:23 “Just because something deals with deep subjects” Means there should be more critique as getting it too wrong can actually harm a person. Make people think suicidal people want attention and want revenge. And etc. there should be more criticism so creators can get it as accurate as possible so it doesn’t end up harming a person’s mindset and views on a subject.

[@heartofglass6802]

9/10 people don't even know it was based on a book what

[@michaeldeguzman3852]

9/10 to the show or the video?

[@sarahwalter7198]

As someone who struggles with mental health and has had many suicide attempts this year I refuse to watch this show because I felt it would be too triggering

[@kristalrej]

best of luck :)

[@hannahkirk4182]

Sarah Walter which if fine and one of my issues with the people trying to get it pulled down is their acting as if you have to watch the show, you don't. It's cool that you make your own choices.

[@annerittwage1401]

I didn't think that I would get triggered, but oh damn. The suicide scene made my arms burn. I am so mad they did it like that. They didn't have to.

[@edadankmemes]

You made a good choice.

[@MusicU-zg8yv]

I don't think it encourages anyone to attempt suicide as it's in no way belittling it. But I also don't think (or feel) that the show was made to help them victims, but to make the bullies realize how hard the things that they do could hurt someone

[@moveslikeninja1]

exactly, thank you. show wasn't meant for the suicidal individuals.... it was meant for everyone around that individual.

[@superduperfreakyDj]

Music4U It could still encourage suicide. The portrayal of power that revenge suicide gives is not good.

[@ninnaaaaaaaaaa]

Rika S. People need a show to tell them not to bully? It's pretty unfortunate people have to learn from a series not to be a shitty person.

[@Johnytomm]

When i finished it, i just got more depressed. I don't think it portrays the message well even though i liked the show.

[@moveslikeninja1]

Nina A. lmao then what the hell is the point of literature and fiction? Just to entertain? Last time I checked... shows, movies, books, plays, stories, etc. with morals and messages have existed since pretty much forever. Are you saying that's silly? Not to mention the fact that art is also used to raise awareness on the issues of present day society, which is basically what this show does. It get's people talking.

[@HaloFallxx]

I couldn't even finish the series, only go to episode 8. To much for me to handle... I'd rather go to some chill sheesh like spongebob

[@whatislife5159]

4K dislikes. bitch why

[@enochannor6550]

Because people think if you disagree with a TV show that touches on dark matters that you're automatically evil.

[@gorkaaustin5306]

Enoch Annor Or just sheep.

[@ethidian3444]

People who like the show will click the video to dislike it. A lot of people like the show. And they feel confident about their opinion because they know a lot of other people that like the show too. ... A lot of people like The Walking Dead also. A lot of people like American Horror Story. A lot of people like The Big Bang Theory. A lot of people like reality TV. ... A lot of people liking a show means nothing.

[@juanstrong3695]

How dare people have different viewpoints.

[@LD-es6iw]

I think its good to let people watch it know that its weird that clay takes so long but its mostly about al the messages I mean rape is a big problem look how the principle dealt with it in the show thats actually how it goes most times in real life its frustrating for the victims to hear its their fault. The death is showed so people can realise how intens it is that there should be something done to stop it. Its also about how girls get sexualised so much in high school that people think its okay to do such things. I mean come on there are so much series about fricking superman flying trough the sky and everybody loves it but when some real life shit gets shown people think its overreacting or to graphic.

[@TheExoticSpaz]

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[@danielt1233]

i liked the show but it definitely had flaws it didn't help people with depression or that are sucidal because it only showed the guilt that they had after hannah killed herself and all the viewers were just trend followers and half of the people at my middle school didnt even know it was based off a book

[@uptightJimmy568]

Showing how sad your death would be to others seems like a decent deterrent of suicidal behavior (since it makes it seem like your life matters which most suicidal people don't think is the case) also not knowing it was based on a book doesn't make you a trend follower.

[@swaued]

DAnielT123 well personally I think it could help people with depression or people who feel suicidal.. I think that because it may give people a sense of how people around them might react to one killing their selves and that they would be missed. I am not suicidal so I wouldn’t know, though. It also might have the opposite effect, because if I wanted to kill myself I think that the show would give me ideas on how I would do that, or the just sadness of the show it’s self which is designed to make people feel sad I think.. I don’t know, I hope I’m making some sense

[@joalan6996]

DAnielT123 the show showed what happens in real life and how Hannah had no one to help her out not even her parents and all the sudden she dies and everyone misses her and cares.

[@mikastella]

a y e l a “I’m not suicidal so I wouldn’t know” Exactly

[@mikastella]

Seriously it’s not even realistic and I just hate the show because the creators didn’t even listen to the suicide prevention rules as if it was just something that can be brushed off easily.

[@coleevens5022]

I love hearing FEAR. in the background. Nice touch

[@emerald905emerald]

Cole Evens same

[@issy9586]

“Harry Potter his forehead” I died. 😂

[@rowan8067]

I don't understand the outrage with mr porter. If you've been raped, the options are report it or try to move on, even after you've reported it you need to try to move on. What's wrong with him telling her that's her only option?

[@dasit1965]

who cares she pretty much caused all of her own problems

[@voldemortsshampoo4551]

It can be a very traumatic event, I would make sure they go to therapy, this type of assault is very scary especially if done by someone close to you, many people don't even report it at all, some people are in denial of it. There's definitely better ways to help a rape survivor than just saying "report them or move on". Not just talking about the show, please never say something like this irl to a sexual assault victim.

[@themoike_prod]

Living like hannah is way more painful and complicated than you think. And the show had flaws in showing how a suicidal person thinks and feels but they were close

[@noonebossesthegarnet2890]

Hannah refused to report it, refused to talk about it, what other option did she think she had if she didn’t want anything done about it?

[@callumblack1]

Tried to watch this show. Mr. Meeseeks blew up.

[@sl3nd3rb0t]

GTX 1080 , i doubt it hes not a god he has to finish the task first

[@linnelandsberg9240]

i just wanna die!

[@Angie-ji7be]

I laughed at the last one. Why did I laugh?

[@apollomartinmiao6321]

because he did deserve better

[@TKO_CEY]

damn.

[@emerald905emerald]

DAMN.

[@runnn783]

Where you find dat

[@vincentlo7678]

7/10

[@siako8112]

Emerald love and lust

[@kbucket]

I've dealt with mental illness and suicide through out my whole life (whether through myself or other people in my life) and the creators of this show presenting it as if her suicide was everyone else's fault was SO IRRESPONSIBLE. Hannah had a problem, she suffered trauma and in turn suffered depression and anxiety, she needed to seek real, professional help and she never did - she might've felt it was everyones fault but that is not the case in reality (and they never showed that aspect - they never even really mentioned mental illness). If they wanted to have a show take on a heavy topic such as this they should have chosen a different text. I think this show will do more harm than good - it'll make young people think they have nowhere to turn when they absolutely do - even if they cant go straight into one on one, in person therapy (due to expenses or fear) there are countless distress or crisis lines or sites where you can talk to counsellors over the phone or online chat for free.

[@comicog3]

Thank you, I finally understand the "welcome to your tape" meme 😂

[@TheExoticSpaz]

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