"4 FAILED TESTS?!" | Demetrious Johnson & MMA Guru GO OFF on PEDs in MMA!

[@Karin77722]

Don't forget about Jones hiding under the octagon from USADA testers.

[@MoisterizedEar]

Relax man he was hiding because he had weed in his system… 😂

[@Karin77722]

@MoisterizedEar 👍

[@hippipdip]

This is crazy 😂

[@DanielRadcliffe-y3g]

@@MoisterizedEar Yeah,... ok.

[@MoisterizedEar]

@@DanielRadcliffe-y3g I was just messing. That’s what jones said why he was hiding.

[@jackgaebler1170]

I don’t think anyone who’s popped for steroids can be the greatest of all time.

[@The_Reality_Filter]

If Jones was a boxer or pretty much any other type of professional athlete he would have been banned for life.

[@TheRealAbraxas]

Jon Jones is small in terms of muscle mass. The way you guys talk about him you act like he’s some mass monster like Yoel Romero or Ubereem, but he’s the furthest thing from it. He’s skinny af.

[@raulbejerano504]

@@TheRealAbraxas PED make you train more and getting ready earlier and help you with the injury, hes popped 4 times (1 for cacaine so is not that important), doestn matter if he isnt that big he is using PED the only people defending this are jon glazers

[@JamieChorley]

@@TheRealAbraxas It's not about muscle mass lol. It's about the fact that PED's significantly reduce your recovery time, meaning you can train harder, longer and with greater pay off, so by the time you hit competition and they're mostly out of your system, you're still benefitting from that training. Nobody thinks athletes are taking them because looking like the rock is an advantage. Jones tested positive for turinabol and clomid, it's not like he popped off some random ass tainted supplement.

[@corybrown416]

Everyone is on steroids, stop being so naive, I bet you still believe in Santa Claus too! 😂🤦🏾‍♂️

[@ReM9494]

"If I took em" - A book by UFC champion and alleged GOAT Jon Jones

[@huntermoreno7805]

Islam and khabib took steroids

[@saiporeddy7303]

Mate everyone is on roids ​@huntermoreno7805

[@danielmontijo5389]

@@huntermoreno7805not true but lol Islam took meldonium to treat ventricular arryhmia and USADA called it the “biggest mistake in anti-doping history ” and gave him a jacket rewarding him of 50 clean tests since then at the Dustin fight and khabib never popped

[@razackchrist5096]

@@huntermoreno7805 Yes.

[@leroilapue15]

​@@huntermoreno7805 all these Russian/Dagestani fighters are on roids people there see it as just something you have to do

[@cowboychamploo7777]

"People Forget Man"

[@michaelsmith4495]

I thought he was gonna pull the voice when he said lol

[@saint_the_kiddd294]

@@michaelsmith4495benson henderson, pedro rizzo🤓

[@michaelsmith4495]

@@saint_the_kiddd294 “they really revolutionized leg kicks and brought it to the mainstream”

[@longshotdiedtired1582]

I’ve taken roids on and off for 7 years , there no question it’s a huge advantage, training intensity and recovery are not even close when your enhanced vs natty

[@jimmynesbit1803]

Punching power endurance especially wrestling strength not to mention you can train twice as much without injury. It’s a massive factor. Jon natty would never beat Jon on the sauce

[@isisdaddy1]

I was thinking that the guy in this vid mustn't have ever completed in any sports to say it won't kick you up to the next level.

[@lastautumn232]

​@@isisdaddy1 He knows, he's just sugar coating it to avoid burning bridges lol

[@lastautumn232]

Lol when I was young and dumb I took PEDs to make D1 in soccer, my skills are relatively the same, but my stamina, strength and endurance were basically ten folds. And that's soccer, now imagine fighting, people who saying roids don't help are absolutely clueless or straight up sugar coating

[@gilbertoflores7397]

​@@lastautumn232in fighing, not getting tired is all the advantage you'd probably want, some of the best fighter were the ones who didn't get tired or could melt guys in the later rounds. PEDs also make you a bit faster, how many of people's shots are off by a little bit? A majority of them, if the speed difference is landing more of those missed shots, that's another major advantage to taking them. People that defend PED use, use non-combat sports data to say it's not that bad, when it matters a lot in contact sports.

[@markstuckless5039]

Mighty milkin that pork soda for every penny!

[@Mighty15x]

[@user-xc7uo6md3n]

Mighty Milkin should be the new channel name

[@derekhakeem8]

This phat dude a hater 💯

[@nicho9292]

💯 😂why not it was a good comp good nrg good vibes. Mighty milk that shizzle lol

[@METAOG]

😂

[@reed332]

The greatest ever coincidentally failed more drug test than anyone ever… Not suspicious at all

[@artofmartialcinemaamc5334]

Yeah, move along folks. Nothing to see here And the King is NOT NAKED!!

[@hyzer_soze]

100%. No excuses, and it should be a discredit. There's an argument to be made that people that use PEDs have a weak mind if they don't really believe they are or can be good enough without it.

[@DonPeppinoo]

jones is off it and looks more vicious than ever

[@PowerHouseGetsMoney]

@@DonPeppinooonce ur onnit u can never be offit

[@thenedsmmachannel8970]

​@@DonPeppinoolol anyone can look vicious against a 42 year old man with a limp in the octagon, especially when they're juiced like Jon Jones

[@ryandebruys2762]

They all use PEDs. GSP had a HGH gut ffs

[@butcherbaker4258]

Everybody's on steroids. And if you were ever put in that position who knows what you would do. You may think you know but you've never been in that position so you have no idea. And imagine being called a cheater when you never took anything.. I think John has taken stuff in the past, but at the end of the day just like both these men said a lot of other top athletes are popping for performance enhancing drugs not everyone is guilty of it but people like to cherry pick certain athletes that have had failed tests in the past to use it against them.

[@kenarts11]

Mighty Mouse is the GOAT.

[@brandon1113]

the true goats reflect in AND outside the octagon, people like Kobe, Ali, GSP, DJ, DC, etc. champion mindset, champion performance, champion human being. GOAT

[@ryandebruys2762]

Btw Muhammad Ali failed a drug test against Larry Holmes in 1980

[@MorningPeacock97]

When LL cool J came up with the term he didn’t explain any of that

[@saadshoaib901]

Khabib+

[@toyoumygirll]

If you think GSP never touched a PED in his life then I don't know what you're smoking 🚬..

[@lilhyena7534]

who use peds or get popped for it? mighty never says he never used them 😂

[@rootapt-getworld]

DJ got so much good content from this interview

[@ocanaldojj]

We need these two to sit down and discuss what happened in the past month every month or so Like, they are connected to fighters, they are up to date on the news, they follow regional prospects and they have educated takes on stuff

[@TEGRIDY8008]

@@ocanaldojjAnd when “guru” is talking to DJ I can actually tolerate listening to him

[@frangalvez6987]

yeah the churu is such an experienced fighter and has true knowlidge of the ufc game hahahahahaha what a joke

[@SirDerp909]

Say what you want, the old UFC belts were the best.

[@julian2238]

Ew no. It was like a near unanimous idea that the new ones are objectively the best combat belt ever (outside of nostalgia) please stop, that nasty ass WWE belt, the new ones are a work of art

[@DonPeppinoo]

they look more professional but it also does look like ''The Big Gold'' belt from wwf

[@SirDerp909]

@@julian2238 Said NOBODY, that they were a 'work of art;' a work of fart, maybe!

[@jengofetlupa44]

I wish they made the interim either silver or used the old belt

[@AntiPeoplePersons]

No, they looked like the wwe smackdown belt from the 2000s

[@CrishyWakeUp]

1. Gsp 2. Mighty mouse the true goats

[@lascellesstoddart3907]

Jones is number 1

[@jesuslejesus9051]

​@lascellesstoddart3907 why ah hue ghey 🌈

[@SandileMafu]

They all got finished Jones hasn’t come close to been finished

[@MNToThat]

Jon Jones is a career long juice head so he's excluded from the conversation

[@artofmartialcinemaamc5334]

He also hasn't fought anyone that are near his equal in BOTH physical attributes and skillsets and as soon as he does, low and behold, he turns from a GOAT to a DUCK in an instant.

[@markusstevensakabiginfinit9523]

Those pre-usada days were EPIC though 😊... TRT Vitor & Ubeereem were world class

[@JosiahMMA]

Love hearing the unique perspectives you always have. Much love Mighty.

[@logosfocus]

why unique? everyones opinion is unique, the more so pointing to being an unpopular opinion.. this 'greatest' convo, well the outcome of and future goal should be things we can ALL agree on.. once the arguing is over, eventually.. in my unique opinion

[@Shel-fu9jb]

“If you guys have done cocaine, please comment in the chat below and let me know what it does for you” 😂

[@Lilpokeball]

Coke is lightweight i blast straight meth cuh

[@logosfocus]

hide under the cage, then have ptsd so bad he cant sit at red lights and wakes up and drink scotch.. then practise new spin slaps on the mrs

[@MIKHAILGEAR]

Did a few times and felt nothing

[@InterYamah]

​@@MIKHAILGEARguy you "got" it off most likely crushed up some paracetamol and ripped you off 🤣

[@KS-jn5pv]

Cocaine is everything gluttonous about the West.

[@i_Dont_Care_XVI]

Nate Diaz DD-Cups had me crying 😂😂😂

[@ssk58607]

That was genuinely funny lol

[@eduardocolon-gonzalez2408]

DJ is the true GOAT in my opinion. There shouldn’t be active steroids use in contact sports. No excuses. Now baseball.. I mean you’re not hitting another man or woman so why not lol

[@User56821]

Gsp is no 1 in my opinion as he was never tested positive for PEDS as well as better resume compare to other goats. He avenged every loses in his record with great comebacks and has faced better opponents than DJ.

[@millenpotter576]

What ab gsp

[@DarrenReddix-p6r]

Nah, if you're going to be a fighter, you absolutely should use roids, if you don't want to do roids, you might as well not be a fighter.

[@millenpotter576]

@@DarrenReddix-p6r fuck are you talking ab

[@ruseruser2227]

@@User56821 I don't think it needs to be a mean-spirited argument between these two, they're both true GOATs of this sport. Both avenged losses. GSP dominated welterweight and even went up to middleweight and took the belt. DJ had an insane dominant reign at flyweight in UFC and, when traded to ONE, held down the flyweight division there, which, at 135lbs capped, was actually a UFC bantamweight equivalent class. And, of course, both true champs never stained their illustrious careers with PEDs.

[@pipemartz]

Jon Jones has admitted to steroids. When commenting on a highlight against DC, didn't he say something to the effect of "I beat him without steroids that time?"

[@devipaduka]

He popped before that so-called "clean" fight, then he popped in their 2nd fight. Reasonable to suggest he was not clean for their 1st match, which is why he had to overdo it for the rematch. He was scared enough of DC, it would seem!

[@emmanuelyarbrough9821]

Someone should look into that O’Malley Ostarine story, that stinks. He didn’t get it from training with someone 😂 but somehow the golden goose gets off this easy

[@blantant]

Ostarine doesn't do much of anything. Could have genuinely been tainted supplements. I don't even like OMalley but don't care if he took that

[@bruhmoment1835]

@@blantant he's a moron. He definitely bought the SARMs story and thought he could get past the drug test.

[@benjamindover8221]

what stinks about it

[@rudi5139]

@@blantant Of course Ostarine makes a difference. Maybe not for already roided bodybuilders. It‘s not Tren. But for a natty person, 10mg of Ostarine make a big difference.

[@emmanuelyarbrough9821]

@ everything

[@donkarnage6032]

The Brock Lesnar/Mark Hunt situation still irks me to this day. Everyone knew that Lesner was still on the juice. Mark Hunt spent the whole buildup to the fight talking about Lesnar was on the juice but he didn't care because he was going to knock Lesnar out. The fight happens. Mark Hunt gets dominated. After the fight it is revealed that Lesnar popped on the test and then Hunt starts complaining about it. Hunt spent months saying he knew Lesnar was on it and didn't care. Once it was confirmed that Lesnar was on it Hunt started complaining and Hunt has every right to complain but Hunt shouldn't have spent months saying he didn't care when he clearly did care but he wanted to get paid on that UFC 200 card. (Edit. Speaking of UFC 200, Jones vs. Cormier 2 was supposed to happen at UFC 200 but Jones tested positive for steroids.)

[@japanunfound]

That's Hunt. He's frankly a total oddball and a fk up. He did similar but different nonsense years ago in Japan too. Not a case to hang one's hat on.

[@jdrobin1]

The GOAT in my opinion is Silva or DJ. 3. GSP 4. Jones 5. KHABIB

[@JoshuaEricSViana]

Same GOAT list but I got Aldo instead of Khabib.

[@SirPraiseSun]

GSP Khabib MM jones, cheated too many times.

[@Mr47CRO]

How can DJ be above GSP? GSP was double champ

[@patricknez7258]

1:06 That is an interesting part of it. It's actually a fair point to make imo, tho maybe not ideal in ways. A lot of people say, "Imagine how good he could have been! He did all this while on coc! That's why he's so good, bc he should probably be even better." Which I feel has some merit, but at same time, it's kind of a backhanded compliment. Plus it's not like coc is all* he failed for, and no way to know how often or how much etc.. I agree it is kind of an interesting, maybe counterintuitive way to promote a fighter. Like while it is realistic and fair point to make, the way it hits the ear of some audience members, it is not very flattering, at least not as much as when it comes up on Rogan or on an mma show or something.

[@101kreger]

Good chat lads. Good Energy

[@FedorEmelianenko452]

Guru has been discrediting everything that Jones has done in his career for months and here he is saying Jon is the goat lmao

[@reallyrocc4546]

😂😂😂

[@caoldavies1740]

Notice how he’s speaking collectively for most of the chat? Saying things using “we” instead of I mostly. I’d say he’s trying to speak for the fan community base, who overwhelmingly think Jones is the goat, regardless of what guru personally thinks.

[@frankiebaby7]

​@@caoldavies1740 because that's how its always been. No one disputed Jones Goat status even his haters knew he was the goat. Yes he is a duck, but Jon Jones is the gretaest of all time.

[@frankiebaby7]

​@@caoldavies1740he literally said "I consider Jones the greatest of all time"

[@randomhuman1754]

He never jon isn't the goat he made a list of greatest mma fighters guess who's top jj it's the ducking, steroids and other stuff he criticises which is right too lol

[@RaphaelHameed]

I don't care what DJ says,,, whenever I see a video that says someone is p4p best or greatest, I always counter with,,, Demetrius Johnson is The GOAT MMA #MightyMouse

[@DonPeppinoo]

the guy couldn't sell out a free event

[@norfolkronin6307]

@@DonPeppinoo Some prefer quality over quantity. Sad really. PPV figures means shit when it comes quality. Bless.

[@randomhuman1754]

He also fought at victim weight never moved up the division lol

[@gilbertoflores7397]

Who did DJ beat? Half his wins are to guys the UFC rushed into a title fight before they were ready, and didn't develop properly. His goto highlight of suplex armbar was to Rey born, who wasn't top 5 and barley ranked at the time, the ufc had to change his ranking and overlook he missed weight for moat of his winstreak.

[@emree8833]

"Two double d cups!"😂😂😂😂😂

[@bencarignan2711]

Those failed tests and anomalies are why DJ will always be higher than Jones on the GOAT list.

[@bgallegos43]

Guru made a great point that all these superstars or up and coming fighters that the ufc is pushing hard always has these weird failed test, just like o malley, izzy, jones failed multiple times

[@BrandonWestfall]

9:52 Izzy catching strays. Holy hell LOL

[@Corswain]

Yeah lol. I remember when all that was happening I saw a doctor put out a youtube video explaining possible causes for it. Saying that apparently if it was gyno from using PEDs that he woulda grown two boobs not one, and that it was likely due to repeated trauma that it can grow like that (getting punched/kicked there). Plus weed is known to cause enlarged breast tissue as well, so together it made the one boob. Still highly unusual given that all the fighters are getting punched/hit there often, and some do weed, and we don't see it happen to other fighters.

[@nikitabakunin1897]

@@Corswain You dirty dirty liar - Absolute opposite of what you are spreading ! The occurrence of unilateral gynecomastia (gyno) is influenced by hormonal imbalances. The underlying mechanisms of gynecomastia are related to the imbalance between estrogen and androgen (testosterone) activity in the body nothing to do with weed. What an absolute GASLIGHT from you. Filthy !

[@SonsOfDeForest]

@@Corswain doctors can be as full of shit as anyone. just ask Bisping, they fking ruined that man

[@JFK47x]

​@@CorswainSome people's genetics naturally cause gyno with age or other factors

[@donniedoesdishes]

this was a great topic and conversation

[@murb2586]

A wild vitor belfort appears

[@LobsterCucumber]

PokeBall goooooo

[@decidingpaper6324]

Vitor, I choose you!

[@azizluther]

Trt Vito was scary. Michael Bisping couldn’t keep his eyes on him .

[@littlemister96]

Stats that matter to me for a GOAT. (In no particular order) -Career longevity (how many years did you fight, how often did you fight) -opponent resumé (who did you fight) -finish rate -fighting in more than one division -well-rounded -no failed drug tests

[@xJbonez]

Need a weekly show between you 2

[@maxrosenbaum2396]

People don’t understand one of the inherent issues in PEDs is people are directly sacrificing their health in order to improve at their sport which shouldn’t be the case

[@JFK47x]

Regular dudes going to the gym are tempted with PEDs, can't imagine a professional athlete getting paid hundreds of thousands a year depending on if you win or not doesn't have temptations lol

[@RealamaneDaGod]

Shoutout Guru for being honest!!!

[@Razor5313]

The commisions tell you they dont suggest athletes taking supplements, so its the athletes fault if they test positive. I dont care if it was a tainted supplement, YOU are responsible for what goes inside your body. I cant put Jon Jones as the GOAT because he tested positive for PED's. They ruled the Jon Jones vs DC 2 a no contest.

[@ryandebruys2762]

They all use PEDs, so it's irrelevant whether Jones used them or not

[@JulinhoDaniel]

I agree, but who’s your GOAT then? For me, I don’t have one specific, but Khabib, GSP and DJ are the ones that standout.

[@educatedfool5121]

@@JulinhoDanielFedor, GSP, and DJ. Khabib I don't count as he had very few title defenses, and did not join the UFC and fight top level competition until very very late in his career.

[@monkeyboy275bobo8]

@@JulinhoDaniel Fedor overall and DJ pfp.

[@Artemi03]

Many people have done roids and haven’t been nearly as good as Jones tho. That’s why you can’t put such a high standard on roids as it doesn’t play the same role for everyone

[@MilosJsWizard]

I had high test and then got low test after months of intenstive training. Not that I'm defending Jones he took stuff. But it doesnt prove it with low test. That can be natural.

[@gageczajkowski7755]

Wow DJ makes a really good point that I never thought about how the UFC and their commentators have absolutely no situational awareness about things and just openly talk about fighters getting popped for cocaine or their legal troubles. Or the Infamous Jon Anik Quote “both fighters are currently in custody battles for their children”

[@devipaduka]

The combination Jones used to knock DC out in their 2nd fight would not have been possible had he not roided up. DC was still doing an amazing job in that fight up until that point and it tells you how scared Bones was of DC to cheat THAT much to need to beat an older and much smaller DC...

[@tavinwallack24]

So that kick wouldn't have rocked DC without steroids?

[@leroilapue15]

Exactly people just dont understand what an advantage being on roids is especially as they get older and should be slowing down, getting weaker and they are throwing with supreme confidence and can also take shots like a super human

[@devipaduka]

@@tavinwallack24 DC would have probably seen it coming - the roids produced more speed and power as they did typically when Bones was taking them. You could clearly see the difference when he wasn't on them - see his later fights at LHW against OSP, Santos, Smith, etc.

[@JamieChorley]

@@tavinwallack24 Your comment is the perfect example of where people go wrong with what they think PED's do. They allow you to train harder, for longer and to recover quickly, so that even when they're gone out of your system, EVERYTHING you do in that octagon has benefitted from your time on that. PED's didn't throw the kick, but a guy with cardio built on PED usage did, giving him athleticism beyond his natural ability.

[@connerc4385]

@@devipadukaI think it’s mainly a cardio thing like Merab, these guys just don’t get tired and Jon didn’t slow down and he therefore landed the head kick

[@lioneldasilva4889]

6:12 Mighty is so humble man

[@SirPraiseSun]

riiiiight

[@bigweiner4208]

Steroids DO affect fights. Could it allow a fighter to performance at higher a level deep into fight than they would naturally? Yes. Could it allow a fighter to have better coniditioning to be ultimately more durable than they would be naturally? Yes. Would Dillashaw naturally have been able to recover as quickly when Cody dropped him in their first fight without and go on to finish Cody in the subsequent round? Or would Jon Jones naturally have been fresh enough to find that headkick against DC in their 2nd fight? Maybe, but now we will never really know for certain who was actually the better man those nights.

[@DerG2001]

Everybody is on steroids or performance enhancing stuff…

[@saiporeddy7303]

Careful man, some dumb fans will attack you, saying, " You think they can cheat usada"

[@SirPraiseSun]

@@saiporeddy7303 many yes everybody no toss a percent its certainly not 100% keep ur dumb blanket statements over u and tuck ur self in its past ur curfew get off the internet kiddo

[@dbnathan5]

Guru is lgbt

[@BobbyVajazzler]

Said it before and I'll say it again, make two seperate divisions. The juiced division and the natty division and every so often when it makes sense have Juiced Champ Vs Natty Champ for undisputed KING

[@tilplugg]

The collab I’ve been praying for🤤🙏

[@themidwestwhale]

Your podcast name is "The GOAT and guru podcast". You're welcome.

[@usernamemarz]

The goat and his piggy

[@SirPraiseSun]

goat comment they should do 1 1 hour episode a week

[@renogos117]

Lesnar's use was egregious and well support by UFC which is why Mark Hunt's comment post 309 was so important and slid under the radar. The heavy weight fight should have been Jones vs Lesnar.

[@101kreger]

Standing guillotine at age 40+ Jim Miller for hall of fame

[@TheStateDecidesEverything]

Give me a break. Conor Mcgregor used to be a 145er LOL so essentially it's not about who's using, it's who got caught.

[@blackhole1376]

About the picograms thing, the way drugs work (psychoactive ones at least, I'm pretty sure steroids do too) is your body cuts the concentration approximately in half every x time which means it'll never be 0. That means that if you have a tiny amount of a drug in your body usually just means that you dosed a while ago instead of some mystery residue in supplements

[@gilbertoflores7397]

The Picogram nonsense was an excuse to justify why he was poping so much, as Anthony Smith and Gus have said, he was poping so much on fight week they stopped reporting on it, and Jon has been caught using the other drugs that they based their findings on; yet Jones wasn't poping for traces of thay other drug.

[@BSJDynasty]

I think people are massively underestimating the impact of gear. Yes it doesn't give you technique, but it enables you to train longer, harder and more frequent, to acquire the technique, experience, composure etc.

[@Mahhhdeee]

Mighty Mouse and gsp are my goats

[@dretheman123]

Likewise 👍🏾

[@logosfocus]

_ most talented, best then, best now, biggest icon, biggest pioneer, nicest, meanest, funniest, best trashtalker, least amount of dog diddying _ of all time, of their era, _ greatest of ALL time

[@logosfocus]

oh yeah then ovvy _ biggest cheat, scummer, fraud and so on

[@kenneth5064]

People says GSP wasn’t on drugs but there is no way you look at his physique and say he’s not on drug tf his body alone is an asterisk.

[@Milk-vw1cv]

Exactly he had a very blatant roid gut, people bring up him advocating against peds as a defence but you can still take them while being against them

[@runyon833]

He advocated for them then semi retired when testing got put in place.

[@JonJayMMA]

Good conversation

[@guyfromnj]

Two Goats of the sport on the same screen.

[@kevinthomas5902]

You can't tell me they don't give you an advantage... when you look at the trt era. There was a drastic difference in capability when the fighters who went on. Trt vitor, chael, hendricks etc

[@djkimvlogger9762]

You guys have a good chemistry

[@galacticmaui2]

“We know our own”-Chael

[@kamsterrook]

Mighty ur the goat

[@AStupidPersonn]

Love this interview. It's cool to see even MMA guru saying Jon is the greatest fighter, but GOAT is hard because of the positive tests. You can't just overlook it all, because there were people he fought that used as well, but the blemishes are still there

[@MNToThat]

Yeah, I think they're all doing it but we have to draw the line somewhere.. Failing a test is that line for me.

[@AStupidPersonn]

@MNToThat I agree, but what about the people he beat that were on it when he may not have been? Chael admitted to it when they fought for the title, Vitor jacked Jon's entire arm and Jon still won and Vitor was juiced to the hills, then Cornier actually had a weird friggin spike, Shogun as well, I do think we have to draw the line, but where?

[@anonymousmf4862]

Mighty the GOAT 🐐

[@ThongNguyen-so5ut]

Correction: Not everyone that was in Pride was on roids. Rampage was always clean.

[@101kreger]

Guru if you are listening. Put your screen behind the microphone. So it looks like you make eye contact with the guest, will help your point come through for the viewer...love you both ❤

[@pqcman]

17:04 "walking chemestry experiment" lmao

[@thetexacutioner]

Thank you guru

[@MrRubeng91]

I don’t count cocaine as a failed PED

[@gilbertoflores7397]

It's a stimulating drug, it can enhance your senses and lower pain.

[@shawnsinger4066]

You guys both need to watch Derek’s videos from More Plates More Dates on Adesanya and Jones. He explains everything beautifully for the layman.

[@2piecenobisuit763]

cant lie dj and guru should have a podcast together

[@afixithei.V]

Your laugh is contagious 😅

[@sanatsrivastava2814]

If fight IQ is all that mattered then 50 yo would be champions and coaches would be champions.

[@jasonjimenez5907]

One of the worst things about Jon is his biggest wins are against DC who had a perfect USADA record and was a perfect example of a clean athlete and Jon tested positive against him twice essentially (once when he pulled out at 200, and then after their actual fight)

[@paytonseitz5125]

I remember watching you on twitch and USAD it pulled up on stream to test you

[@Budsport_TV]

You two need to do a weekly show together

[@harrym740]

Mcgregor bought that ferrari boat to get away from usada. Aint no way theyre catching up to a ferrari speedboat😂

[@gilbertoflores7397]

That's a dirty secret about drug testing apparently, since USADA might not have many reliable source to collect samples in foreign countries, they don't test many fighters when they're in remote locations.

[@dundundadadun]

Mighty Mouse the GOAT at his weight classes. Khabib the GOAT at his weight class. Jon Jones is a temporary "GOAT" right now at light-heavy weight/ heavy weight and Tom Aspinall will be the GOAT in about 5 years time.

[@RockerBen]

Stipe is still the most accomplished at HW. Losing to Jon after effectively 3+ years of retirement doesn't mean anything for Jon's "legacy". Just like Jake Paul isn't a better boxer than Mike Tyson.

[@superchiller123chill]

DJ and GSP are the GOATS thats it

[@renogos117]

Question: if you take synthetic testosterone, does the body get accustomed to having it given and therefore loses its own ability to make it - which would result in a lower baseline testosterone level once the synthetic testosterone is stopped ? I ask because, for people who take stimulants such as cocaine, it increases the dopamine levels in the body but with regular use, the body loses its own ability to make its own dopamine which typically results in depression.

[@dionysus6027]

definitely happens with steroids as well. it’s why peoples balls shrink and shit…

[@khaledhussain3250]

I put it on khabib

[@1skSlade]

Dj and Guru? This is an interesting pairing!

[@LuisAyala-z9n]

I respect Johnson's pov on cannibis helping hi to the point that he would consider it a ped. what a stand up dude. Although anything that hinders the mind or alters the state of the unaltered mind is a hinderance. Cannabis when ingested through the digestive tract and a certain type of thc or cbd it lacks the chemical that will affect the mind, So I think that would be ok for even a christian that would be worried about living a clean lifestyle.

[@twal-wo6yh]

In most sports, athletes get removed from any Goat debate after failing 1 drug test, let alone 4 (actually 6)

[@janmichaelvincent2157]

DJ now an honorary citizen of Gurusalem 🙏

[@Jennz777]

Non fighters have no say in what steroids do or dont.

[@t.1344]

Love DJ absolutely despise the guest but here we are... watching regardless 😂

[@TheEliteofMMA]

How can you hate a cripple?

[@holdingW0]

Lets be honest roids DO take you from A to B. Increases your strength by a lot, durability by a good amount, and in terms of skill and fight IQ, it helps you train harder and practice more and sharpen and develop techniques, all of which gives you experience and helps with fight IQ.

[@bigbangatk666]

The way y'all are describing "it makes you recover faster and feel better" legitimately just makes me wanna say why is it even illegal? Wouldn't we want fighters to recover faster and fight into their 40s?

[@CJH94]

“Shouldn’t have let the kids watch South Park” lmao love it hahhaha

[@Freemasonshair]

Shout out to Kyle Antony Me for giving this might mouse gamer a chance! Good chemistry!

[@jamelldevans9326]

Ryan Bader, Rua, Rampage, Machida, Rashad, 🧃Vitor, 🧃Sonnen, Alexander G, Glover, MF Legend of Legends DC!!!, the list goes on. If Mighty and Henry fought the Roster with Merab, Aljo, Umar and a UFC Rodtang the haters wouldn’t exist

[@hollowed588]

Can we get a money moic pod after his performance of bsd??

[@stephencox8723]

It is in no way the greats only having these issues. You just don’t hear about the lower profile cases.

[@paulie.walnuts2838]

If there is no advantages to taking gear , then what would be the point of taking it? Why would fighters risk getting caught unless it has advantages? 🙄

[@DaveGendron-j6c]

Is it true guys Jon Jones hid under the octagon to get away from usada.🤔🙏.

[@LuisAyala-z9n]

Honor, decency, respect, clean tests, role model for the youth, represent a faith in God. but this one is up for debate to the one who is above a higher power.

[@alexei.moskalev]

Taking in consideration how common PED were in Pride really put a spin on a GOAT conversation. How do we compare it to UFC, like pride was considered higher level at a time, but it was roids devision.

[@DarkLight-Ascending]

DJ made it as co host for GURU.

[@abdulhamza172]

EPO helps your reaction time And the benefits stays in the system even after coming clean. Maybe not all of it but every small bit helps

[@greenmountaingrower4680]

I think roids can also give a mental advantage. If you think you have an edge you will be more focused and confident.