13900K vs 7800X3D! Which One Should YOU Choose?🤷‍♂️

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@dank4841
@dank4841 Жыл бұрын
Short answer: - 7800X3D for gamers (objectively more fps) - 13900K for workstation (better for processing and rendering due to higher core count)
@hariam9574
@hariam9574 Жыл бұрын
no ryzen 7 7800x3d for gamer i9 13900k is an allrounder.
@EdwardWongHauPepeluTivruskyIV.
@EdwardWongHauPepeluTivruskyIV. Жыл бұрын
@@hariam9574 yea I agree with your statement more but you didn't have to say "no" like he was 100% wrong lol
@chiyolate
@chiyolate Жыл бұрын
Of course duh, you can't game with an i9
@dank4841
@dank4841 Жыл бұрын
@@hariam9574 of course, in the same sense that an 8L W16 Bugatti is an allrounder that I can drive my kids to school with too.
@EdwardWongHauPepeluTivruskyIV.
@EdwardWongHauPepeluTivruskyIV. Жыл бұрын
@@chiyolate it's not necessarily that it can't game, it's just that the 7800x3d has better performance
@s1ck_st3
@s1ck_st3 Жыл бұрын
paying for a 13900k and not using ddr5 is like using a 4090 on a 9400f
@purple_haze8160
@purple_haze8160 11 ай бұрын
Do you mean the motherboard or ram?
@s1ck_st3
@s1ck_st3 11 ай бұрын
@@purple_haze8160 no i mean the cpu
@damattboii5495
@damattboii5495 11 ай бұрын
Isnt the difference between ddr5 and ddr4 negligible?
@s1ck_st3
@s1ck_st3 11 ай бұрын
@@damattboii5495 no it's not, specially for a difference of a couple bucks
@Dex4Sure
@Dex4Sure 10 ай бұрын
@@s1ck_st3 In most cases it is small difference in games. Good DDR4 RAM beats low end DDR5 in games and ties with mid range DDR5. In workstation tasks, memory bandwidth intensive tasks DDR5 of course is much better.
@abhiram0109
@abhiram0109 Жыл бұрын
That isn't a fair comparison you should compare i7 13700k with a Ryzen 7 7800x3d. If you use i9 13900k you should compare it with Ryzen 9 7900x3d
@IMajst3RI
@IMajst3RI Жыл бұрын
7900x3d is a bad choice no matter what. You need multicore raw performance? Go with 7900x. Need top of the line gaming? Buy 7800x3d.
@EdwardWongHauPepeluTivruskyIV.
@EdwardWongHauPepeluTivruskyIV. Жыл бұрын
@@IMajst3RI yep well said
@spackseries4400
@spackseries4400 Жыл бұрын
​@@IMajst3RI I honestly can't get my head around the existence of the 7900x3D. The 7950X3D is MUCH better as an all rounder but the 7800X3D is the best gaming CPU
@TsunamicBug
@TsunamicBug Жыл бұрын
@@IMajst3RI No, get the 7950x3d for multicore. Otherwise it's not much worth it over 7800x3d
@men_in_i3lack284
@men_in_i3lack284 Жыл бұрын
@@IMajst3RI yeah agree but to compare high end with mid tier ist kinda stupid
@plsbanhackers9031
@plsbanhackers9031 Жыл бұрын
You forgot you can warm your house during winter with an i9, saving you heating bills. You can probably even fry an egg 😂
@demonfox51321
@demonfox51321 Жыл бұрын
But im sure electricity bill kick up lol
@oliknow
@oliknow Жыл бұрын
@@demonfox51321 doesn't matter if you use your PC anyway. last winter I kept one small room nice and cozy with using my PC normally. no problem
@Muffboy1
@Muffboy1 Жыл бұрын
If your getting an i9 and not using a proper cooler then its only your fault.
@plsbanhackers9031
@plsbanhackers9031 Жыл бұрын
@@Muffboy1 woosh
@darkerpath
@darkerpath Жыл бұрын
​@@plsbanhackers9031thanks for the tips, can save more money by not buying heater for the house.. Aah my house will be warm through the winter.. *"Here Comes The Winter"*
@jonsnow6756
@jonsnow6756 Жыл бұрын
Nice review which helped me to make my choice. I choose Celeron g3400
@skoister4811
@skoister4811 Жыл бұрын
💀
@xiyax6241
@xiyax6241 Жыл бұрын
Deadass
@jonsnow6756
@jonsnow6756 Жыл бұрын
@@arghya_04 I am
@sooryikiu6365
@sooryikiu6365 Жыл бұрын
bro is gonna regret that celron
@randombsod69420
@randombsod69420 Жыл бұрын
well I have celeron n3050, time to get hated even more!!!!!!!!!!!
@iridescentshards
@iridescentshards Жыл бұрын
for gaming, all you need to know is that 7800x3d offers very similar performance with significant less power draw.
@MrMali22
@MrMali22 Жыл бұрын
And significantly less price
@ErwinPPP
@ErwinPPP 9 ай бұрын
So get the 13900k. Its way better.
@C0astinG4mer
@C0astinG4mer 9 ай бұрын
@@ErwinPPP-at being worse than the 7800x3d in terms of upgradability and price to performance
@guitaristkuro8898
@guitaristkuro8898 9 ай бұрын
X3D actually beats 13 and 14900k by a good margin in almost every title, while drawing 3-4x less power.
@lazy_panda_plays9970
@lazy_panda_plays9970 8 ай бұрын
It's not really a "good margin" both chips have favor over some games. Intel beats AMD in some, AMD beats Intel in some. Based off of many videos and benchmarks I've seen they both are very very similar in terms of performance. TDP, not even close.​@@guitaristkuro8898
@sesad5035
@sesad5035 Жыл бұрын
Bro works for user benchmark 💀
@MrMali22
@MrMali22 Жыл бұрын
Then he would've noticed that the Intel chip is more expensive. By 37 percent
@mjrdanishdestroyer01
@mjrdanishdestroyer01 Жыл бұрын
​@@MrMali22not necessarily. in some countries, sellers placed a higher priced for AMD compared to Intel and Nvidia. Which I hate most of the time
@TheUltraMinebox
@TheUltraMinebox Жыл бұрын
He's not wrong tho, the faster frequencies and additional cores kill it in creative applications. Blender simulations adore fast clock speeds, lots of cores allows for lots of tracks in music production, and finally the quicksync with the iGPU is killer for video editing. Although i've heard 3d vcache does help with physics simulations but no one has cared enough to perform an actual benchmark that isnt cinebench...
@auritro3903
@auritro3903 11 ай бұрын
Bro, He stated that ryzen is better for gaming while intel is better for workstation. He never said the intel chip is objectively better than the ryzen one.
@blizyon30fps86
@blizyon30fps86 11 ай бұрын
Everything he said is true. 7800x3d better for gaming yet worse as a workstation
@lucasdemitrivonpezold3151
@lucasdemitrivonpezold3151 Ай бұрын
I would obviously choose the Ryzen 7 because of the intel stability issues
@tunnis2250
@tunnis2250 Ай бұрын
I9 13900k 7 7800x3d average price-$414 avarage price-$325
@chilledgamez3659
@chilledgamez3659 2 ай бұрын
I thought stability mattered in workstation
@Kludgyp
@Kludgyp 2 ай бұрын
Faaaaaacts I had to RMA TWO i9 14900k what a dog shit chip
@Cosmic.Origin.exe.
@Cosmic.Origin.exe. Ай бұрын
Damn that's cold 🥶
@danielwiederspan5257
@danielwiederspan5257 Ай бұрын
The video was before the instability issues were discovered. I personally recommend the ryzen 7 7800x3d
@thebeanbag8407
@thebeanbag8407 Ай бұрын
​@@Cosmic.Origin.exe.unlike the 14900k
@miirux9908
@miirux9908 Жыл бұрын
you forgot to say that not all 24 cores in the i9 are performance cores, some are also E-cores (less performant cores)
@dank4841
@dank4841 Жыл бұрын
“SOME” is an understatement. More accurately, “MOST” (16 out of 24) cores are redundant e cores for gamers unless its a workstation build.
@miirux9908
@miirux9908 Жыл бұрын
@@dank4841 we both right, there are more e cores than p cores but the e cores have only 1 thread, when comparing the e cores with the p cores we have the same number of threads
@artin4576
@artin4576 Жыл бұрын
​@@miirux9908I don't know like for the price of i9 you better of getting ryzen 7 and than getting better graphics card plus the i9 is for most build a overkill and if you have budget it's better to get the ryzen 7 it really depends
@icy1007
@icy1007 10 ай бұрын
@@dank4841E-cores are used in gaming.
@dank4841
@dank4841 10 ай бұрын
@@icy1007 Did I say they weren’t used? I said they were *redundant* in comparison.
@Gamer-kr8tc
@Gamer-kr8tc Жыл бұрын
7800X3D 100%
@ErwinPPP
@ErwinPPP 9 ай бұрын
Never. Fuck AMD. Intel any day.
@hossein8221
@hossein8221 Жыл бұрын
It's just stupid to compare core count without saying 2/3 is just efficiency ones And also clock speed doesn't matter because IPC matters too
@icy1007
@icy1007 10 ай бұрын
Intel has higher IPC. and E-cores are very useful.
@BocchiSensei
@BocchiSensei 9 ай бұрын
​@@icy1007This short happens to be about gaming, E-cores wont be useful on gaming performances. Its the P-Cores that actually matter.
@icy1007
@icy1007 9 ай бұрын
@@BocchiSensei e-cores are used and do help with gaming.
@BocchiSensei
@BocchiSensei 9 ай бұрын
​​​​@@icy1007No they dont and this is an area where I specialize in (Well its related, i specialize in computer science). Anyway E-cores are made for low demanding tasks, its in the name "Efficient"-cores. For gaming, E-cores can actually decrease performance and thats why they are used for background apps that run while you're gaming while the P-cores handle the actual gaming performance. In other applications like video editing, E-cores are useful and this is because that requires more "parallel computing", I am simplifying alot here but basically those kinds of applications benefit more from having more cores. All of this takes no longer than a minute from searching in the internet so please do before saying something next time. If you still want proof from me, have you ever wondered why an 7800X3D (8 cores) was declared to be the fastest gaming cpu in the planet despite the i9-13900k (8 cores, 16 e-cores) exisiting? The 7800X3D actually has a higher core count brother the 7950X3D, yet it still gets beat out by it? Wonder why?
@IMSherwood
@IMSherwood 9 ай бұрын
@@BocchiSenseiso for example: if i play a game in 1080p and i'm getting 200fps hmmm let's say valorant or modern warfare 2 , and while gaming i open up google chrome to watch youtube videos ( probably using 2 tabs of chrome ), does the E-Cores help to maintain the framerate in game to stay at 200fps ? or the framerate still decreases ?
@JeffreyRainwater
@JeffreyRainwater Жыл бұрын
7800X3D all the way.
@TheRealCashMøneyyy
@TheRealCashMøneyyy 7 ай бұрын
Imma have to go with the 7800X3D
@nillzgames
@nillzgames 5 ай бұрын
they both use the same amount of P-cores (8 cores) to run the games so that parts regardless when it comes to gaming it only helps it in do better in workstation tasks.
@probarteknawofficialpl5135
@probarteknawofficialpl5135 Ай бұрын
You forget to add the instability problems
@shayhan6227
@shayhan6227 Ай бұрын
Video was made a year ago buddy. The problems weren't discovered yet.
@most_sane_piano_enthusiast
@most_sane_piano_enthusiast Жыл бұрын
Built a PC with a 7800X3D like a week ago. It performs astonishingly well. And you don't even need to water cool it. The Peerless Assassin keeps it below 75 degrees under heavy load.
@top5ps
@top5ps 9 ай бұрын
Can you have multiple tabs open or apps
@C0astinG4mer
@C0astinG4mer 9 ай бұрын
@@top5psthat’s more of a ram thing but the 7800x3d can very much handle that
@midnightrunners1470
@midnightrunners1470 Жыл бұрын
7800x3d kinda hot? Bro compared to the 13900K the 7800x3d is like comparing dry ice to lava
@Deezorz
@Deezorz Ай бұрын
Nope. 7800x3d hits 85 degrees with -20 pbo with a 360 aio. I’ve tested it. And my 14900k with intel limits barely hits 90. That’s a 5 degree difference. Not really lava vs dry ice
@StrykerEXE
@StrykerEXE Ай бұрын
With these instability issues, id go with amd anyways
@shayhan6227
@shayhan6227 Ай бұрын
Video was made a year ago. The problems weren't discovered yet.
@StrykerEXE
@StrykerEXE Ай бұрын
@@shayhan6227 I know, just for now, I'm saying
@iLegionaire3755
@iLegionaire3755 Күн бұрын
AMD is becoming the standard for x86.
@nolanroube1009
@nolanroube1009 11 ай бұрын
The R7 7800X3D is a little but real beast !
@Savirezz
@Savirezz Ай бұрын
This aged like milk. intel 12th and 13th gen is dying
@MemeStuff.
@MemeStuff. 2 ай бұрын
Explodes: intel ✅ ryzen ❌
@tajrian4677
@tajrian4677 Ай бұрын
both explode boom!
@iLegionaire3755
@iLegionaire3755 Күн бұрын
@@tajrian4677 Wrong, only certain ASUS motherboards explode the X3D Ryzen processors, and ASUS is working to eliminate them for their Zen 5 MOBO offerings.
@Therealsteamyturd11
@Therealsteamyturd11 3 ай бұрын
Not me this entire game yelling “JUST USE THE SNIPER” lmao
@rangerslayer2260
@rangerslayer2260 Жыл бұрын
I'm building my PC around the Ryzen 7 7800X3D. Originally I was going with the latest Ryzen 9, but I was recommended the 7800X3D as I said I wanted my PC to be solely focused for gaming.
@astrefate2610
@astrefate2610 Жыл бұрын
good choise
@bren.r
@bren.r 4 ай бұрын
Good choice indeed. More cores isn’t always better. The 79xxX3D chips have P cores that don’t use the 3D v-cache, so if the game’s process gets assigned to those core(s), you’re not benefiting from the X3D’s higher cache.
@Rayer24
@Rayer24 2 ай бұрын
@@bren.r More cores are generally better unless you don't use them at all. A 64 core threadripper would be absolutely wasted on pretty much ever consumer. But more than 8? Well lets just say we have 14 core i5 CPUs. To say 8 cores will age well is naive to say the least. Anyone could've predicted that when Ryzen first launched back in 2017.
@Rayer24
@Rayer24 2 ай бұрын
Was it a good choice? It entirely depends what kind of gaming you do and what else you do with your PC. If all you do with your PC is game (which I find very hard to believe), then the 7800x3d might still not be the best choice. The 7800x3d is the best choice for you if you only play esport titles on a single monitor with very little running in the background and you play at 1080p with a 4090, you're hypercompetitive and you care about the difference between 500 and 600fps. But if you play demanding AAA titles and you will continue doing that in the future, you play at maybe 1440p with a 4070 super and you don't care about the difference between 130 and 140 fps while you're doing any amount of multitasking? Yeah, go Ryzen 9 or i9 and don't look back.
@rangerslayer2260
@rangerslayer2260 2 ай бұрын
Ryzen 7 7800X3D has been holding solid for me for a year now. Paired with the RTX 3080, it's running many of my game titles no issue. It's even running Hogwarts Legacy at 3840x2160. The limitation is with Crytek games, when I got it to run Ryse: Son of Rome. That wasn't a surprise. When running things in the background, it's usually steam and discord.
@LakuzG
@LakuzG 5 ай бұрын
I just got a pc deal with microcenter and got the ryzen for only 200 bucks
@MadaraUchiha55910
@MadaraUchiha55910 10 ай бұрын
Perhaps you should compare two CPUs that are in the same class, which in this case would be Intel I9 13900K and Ryzen 7950X or even the Ryzen Treadripper 7960X maybe you’re just comparing the 13900K to 7700/7800X because you know the Treadrippper would eat the 13900K alive
@fighterpimp
@fighterpimp 7 ай бұрын
no it isn't the same class RERE piss. The 14700k vs 7800x3d is same class. The 13900k is a re-released 14700k. So comparing them is completely fine. Sorry that your brain is level RERE. I guess data to hard for you. Video poster nailed this perfect. Sorry you upset.
@ItsNeverMe
@ItsNeverMe 5 ай бұрын
​@@fighterpimp13900k has more cores than the 14700k
@Bloodysugar
@Bloodysugar Жыл бұрын
Beyond how intensive a game is using the CPU, the more FPS a GPU produces the more we need a strong CPU, which explains why any bottleneck calculator will show less CPU needs the higher definition is. And by the way all this makes sense depending on monitor's refresh rate : a perfect CPU/GPU combo will provide the highest framerate, but if the monitor is 60 or 75 Hz you don't need up to 140 FPS and 100 FPS for the 1% low, and will feel better capping GPU's FPS at our monitor max refresh rate, giving more room to the GPU to produce way less framerate fluctuations, and so more fluidity as framerate fluctuation provocs stuttering. Which means if you're a non competitive gamer just enjoying a very smooth 60 or 75 FPS for games like Cyberpunk (and the usual AAA Action Adventure / RPG stuff) a 4070 can be pretty well managed by a 5800X3D (or even older older ones like a 3700X). It can even manage pretty well a 4090 for a buttery 60/75 FPS @ 4K. Our monitors are our first and main bottleneck, and most players would greatly benefit from capping a strong GPU.
@joepverboom6453
@joepverboom6453 2 ай бұрын
People who say the i9 is better for gaming = 🤡
@QwertyAsd-f8r
@QwertyAsd-f8r Ай бұрын
Amd fans rigth now =🗿
@Israel_loll
@Israel_loll Ай бұрын
Short answer - Ryzen 7 7800X3D = for gaming - i9-13900K = for workstation,edit/render etc.
@goodguyLT
@goodguyLT Жыл бұрын
Something like i7 is a great combo of workstation and gaming while being cheaper
@ItsNeverMe
@ItsNeverMe 5 ай бұрын
Depends on the generation, but yes
@BMac420
@BMac420 2 ай бұрын
No. It’s not cheaper, runs slower and hotter, and it’s a dead platform
@MainUkraine
@MainUkraine Ай бұрын
7800X3D definitely does not run hot plus if you're smart you undervolt it for better efficiency. I have a Hyper 212 Spectrum V3 air cooler and it's cooling it more than required
@robhildebrand9914
@robhildebrand9914 Жыл бұрын
The ryzen 9 7950x Would be a more appropriate comparison option to it
@DrMissJess
@DrMissJess Жыл бұрын
Depends on the circumstances. For gaming the Ryzen 7 is the best CPU on the market, beating its Ryzen 9 ally by a decent amount
@AlexLeonTV
@AlexLeonTV Жыл бұрын
Agree on that last comment. It’s better then the 7950x that’s why he comparing it. Do your research
@blizyon30fps86
@blizyon30fps86 11 ай бұрын
@@AlexLeonTVfor gaming sure but not anything else
@BillyBob-oi9kl
@BillyBob-oi9kl 10 ай бұрын
@@AlexLeonTV Nah the other guy is right. If he was going to make an apples to apples comparison, then the 7950x would have been the better comparison. If it was simply gaming comparison, then he wouldn't have brought up the workstation performance.
@spadelcd
@spadelcd 6 ай бұрын
Basically to sum it up, if you play primarily gpu intensive games at very graphically demanding settings for example cod, cyberpunk, far cry, hell divers, or even fps games but with high settings and/or 1440p/4k, the difference in performance is so negligible it doesn’t matter and R7 actually beats the i9 in some games. If you play cpu intensive games for example Fortnite, apex legends, valorant, csgo, Minecraft etc. basically anything where you are playing with very low settings and just want low delay/high fps get the i9 any day. It gives around 20- 30% more performance in that scenario 👍🏾
@ezecskornfan
@ezecskornfan Жыл бұрын
If I have to assume the Ryzen is cheaper to cool and demands less watts, then the AMD one.
@slandshark
@slandshark 10 ай бұрын
I have a 7800x3d and I've get about 5.6ghz on all cores. Also, you can get a DDR5 AM5 motherboard for as cheap as about $60USD. Only about $10 more than the cheapest intel motherboard I found. Price isn't that different for the non-cpu components. The 7800x3d is about $200 cheaper than the i9 13900k. Motherboard about $10 more. 2x16gb of ddr4-3200 for $50. Which is about $20 cheaper than the cheapest 2x16gb of ddr5-4800 at $72. So yeah, 7800x3d is far far cheaper overall than the Intel i9-13900k.
@willy7968
@willy7968 8 ай бұрын
DD5 motherboard for $60? How
@aizln
@aizln 10 ай бұрын
Cataclysm can you do a “which one is better” on the Intel Core i7-13700k vs i5 13600k? The 13700k is around $330~ and the 13600k is $250~ on Amazon because of Black Friday. So, which one would be a better buy? It would be great if you could be reply as soon as possible!
@C0astinG4mer
@C0astinG4mer 9 ай бұрын
Omg please research intel cores because it’s clear you need more info. i3,i5,i7,i9. Hint: look at the numbers after the “i”
@guitaristkuro8898
@guitaristkuro8898 9 ай бұрын
Still depends on the workloads. There is a minimal difference (~10 FPS) between the 13600k and 13900K, and even less between the 13600k and 13700k. Why? Because games currently suck at leveraging cores. 6 core processors are the way to go for gamers.
@kingzyjhiepelongco3593
@kingzyjhiepelongco3593 7 ай бұрын
7950X3D for Gamers in AMD I9 13900KS for Workstations/Gaming
@techracoon7180
@techracoon7180 4 ай бұрын
It doesn't matter, the average gamer can't afford any of it.
@pc_sovereign
@pc_sovereign 4 ай бұрын
If they have a good bugdet like mine (1400$) they can
@T3cN3Rd
@T3cN3Rd 4 ай бұрын
@@pc_sovereign yes the 7800x3d is very cheap for the gaming performance u get from it
@cosmicreaverkassadin1143
@cosmicreaverkassadin1143 3 ай бұрын
my budget is 3000$
@blazejay202
@blazejay202 3 ай бұрын
Not true at all
@pepino7956
@pepino7956 2 ай бұрын
I have 13900k 4090 u trippen
@sarjannarwan6896
@sarjannarwan6896 Ай бұрын
Please stop this trend of comparing clocks for speed. Especially when there's architecture and IPC differences.
@Ryzen-4-0-7-0
@Ryzen-4-0-7-0 27 күн бұрын
Respect 🫡 different cpus for different tasks
@monkeyatschool99
@monkeyatschool99 Жыл бұрын
I play video games 16/7 so 7800x3d is just perfect. Also electricity bill will be cheaper
@dy7296
@dy7296 4 ай бұрын
Ya need to note out that the 16 of the core are efficieny cores. So the amount of performance cores are 8 which is the same. Doesn't change that i9 has way more headroom obviously.
@jayburn00
@jayburn00 Жыл бұрын
Clockrate is not a direct measurement of how fast a processor processes stuff. Things that affect the overall speed, in addition to the clockrate, include the instruction set used, the memory bus, and better measurements are instructions per second, or operations per second. Also, cores can be virtual (logical) or physical. Another thing is that speed can make up for a shortage of cores through multithreading (usually not enough to be a perfect substitute, but a good way of looking at it is a processor with 1 operation per second and 2 cores will work as fast as a processor at 2 operations per second with one core in some cases, but the faster single core will beat the slower dual core if they are both given a single operation (not a perfect comparison, and the equivalency is not a perfect 1 to 1);). multicore processors have an advantage with multitasking, and multithreading is not a perfect substitute for that but it helps.
@guitaristkuro8898
@guitaristkuro8898 9 ай бұрын
You forgot that the X3D specifically has lower clocks compared to the non 3D counterparts because it can perform more in a cycle due to its massively increased cache.
@jayburn00
@jayburn00 9 ай бұрын
@@guitaristkuro8898 thanks for adding that info!
@shayhan6227
@shayhan6227 Ай бұрын
@@jayburn00 I like this comment. Very well said
@pperry6715
@pperry6715 7 күн бұрын
If you want to boost your power bill and reduce your gaming speeds, go with the Intel.
@SeeFlow-bo1dl
@SeeFlow-bo1dl 8 ай бұрын
short answer: 7800x3d for gamers 7950x for people doing real work 13900k for people who enjoy performance from 3 years ago
@fighterpimp
@fighterpimp 7 ай бұрын
so 14k series doesn't exist I guess................... Even though it is performing at the same levels in games and tasks as the 7950........... Whelp I guess when we drink from the RERE toilet like you do. Something got you.
@ItsNeverMe
@ItsNeverMe 5 ай бұрын
​@@fighterpimpNot we, only you.
@Rayer24
@Rayer24 2 ай бұрын
If I had to choose one and money didn't matter it would be 13900k every day of the week. Easy. It's the clear answer for anyone who plays any somewhat cpu demanding game and/or does any amount of multitasking. Not saying you need all those 24 cores but you definitely want more than 8 in 2024. Unless all you do is play esport titles on a single monitor with nothing in the background and you don't mind spending 400$ on 8 cores in the current year, then sure the 7800x3d is for you. All these comparisons you're seeing is with a 4090 at 1080p which is quite ridiculous. Take a 4070 (super) at 1440p and you will see the gap in fps will shrink significantly. The 7800x3d is a halo product designed for a very specific set of gamers. If you belong to that exclusive group then you wouldn't watch this short. In reality I would look at the 13600k or a 7900x since they offer great price to performance value. Much better than the 7800x3d at least.
@BMac420
@BMac420 2 ай бұрын
@@Rayer24you’re either intentionally lying because you work for intel or you’re just really dumb.
@BMac420
@BMac420 2 ай бұрын
@@Rayer24halo product that costs $100 less than the cpu u recommend
@avvipavvi
@avvipavvi 6 ай бұрын
ryzen wins. im not some brand loyalty guy, but LGA 1700 is a dead platform. currently AM5 chips should be the only ones you consider buying if your budget allows it.
@MagStump
@MagStump Жыл бұрын
But ryzen is upgradable
@milliemaeda2903
@milliemaeda2903 2 ай бұрын
The cost is definitely not a draw, specially considering the cost of cooling the 13900k
@WhoisSunless
@WhoisSunless Жыл бұрын
If you are using ddr4 with a 13900k you picked the wrong processor…
@hawk8628
@hawk8628 11 ай бұрын
​@@I_Ventedyour point?
@Raxceryte
@Raxceryte Жыл бұрын
I only paired my 4090 with a 13900K because I don't have the socket for AMD GPUs. (I upgraded from a 12700k) I'm too lazy, and quite frankly just don't want to get a new motherboard when games run just fine at 1440p (I know, low resolution for a 4090)
@Ruben.tarigan
@Ruben.tarigan Жыл бұрын
Why do you even change cpu every year? 😅 bruh
@ingoos
@ingoos Жыл бұрын
In any case, just goes to show: vigorous competition quickly spurs rapid innovations which, ultimately, benefits everyone.
@chaitern6075
@chaitern6075 Жыл бұрын
Damn now i gotta spend more time looking for the prices cus the $$$ didnt tell me the actual price
@blessed4789
@blessed4789 11 ай бұрын
About $150 difference here
@Trusteft
@Trusteft 11 ай бұрын
The power consumption difference alone is enough for me to choose the AMD one.
@greengamma569
@greengamma569 10 ай бұрын
Ryzen 7 consumes over twice the power at idle as the I9…
@Trusteft
@Trusteft 10 ай бұрын
@@greengamma569Tell me how many hours per day one uses a CPU and how many hours they actually have it do nothing. It's insane to positively compare this Intel CPU for power consumption.
@greengamma569
@greengamma569 10 ай бұрын
@@Trusteft pretty much doing anything other than gaming=idling. If you surf the web or watch videos on KZbin the amd cpu will use twice the power.
@C0astinG4mer
@C0astinG4mer 9 ай бұрын
@@greengamma569and? 7800x3d is still the way to go. (Also that’s blatantly wrong but ok)
@Zehein
@Zehein Ай бұрын
Why is the comparison not in the same price category? It would be more rational to compare with Ryzen 9 7950x3D
@paintingtutorials2d3dprodu22
@paintingtutorials2d3dprodu22 Жыл бұрын
I9 without hesitation.. cuz the PC serves for other things not only gaming
@C0astinG4mer
@C0astinG4mer 9 ай бұрын
Not for everybody. 7800x3d is much better for gaming but the i9 is more workstation. Not everybody uses their of the same. If it’s strictly gaming, don’t choose the i9.
@randylahey3891
@randylahey3891 Жыл бұрын
Honestly though why would you buy an i9-13900k and not pair it with ddr 5 ram. And in that case you actually have to buy more expensive ram to get the best performance out of the i9, something like DDR5 7200. While the 7800x3D is actually optimal with DRR5 6000 ram. So realistically the 7800x3D will end up being decently cheaper. The real comparison should be with the i9-13900k and the 7950x3D. If you are looking for only gaming the 7800x3D is the no brainer, if you are looking for productivity then the above two are what to consider.
@nutellaguyau
@nutellaguyau 10 ай бұрын
How about comparing apples with apples, and not apples with oranges…. Pointless video
@C0astinG4mer
@C0astinG4mer 9 ай бұрын
This is literally one of the biggest gaming comparisons. It’s apples to apples.
@darkvaper69
@darkvaper69 5 ай бұрын
Short answer: I9: Content creation and workstation R7: gaming
@shoxruxbekabduraxmonov6958
@shoxruxbekabduraxmonov6958 Жыл бұрын
13900K has 36mb l3 cache
@bren.r
@bren.r 4 ай бұрын
Lmao what a joke.
@NguyenhungCuong-km3un
@NguyenhungCuong-km3un Күн бұрын
Shorter answer: whatever is cheaper. In my country a 7800x3d is $470 and 13900k is $400 so the choice is pretty obvious
@OzyBartos
@OzyBartos Жыл бұрын
Which GPU and motherboard would you pair with the Ryzen assuming no budget, and preferred brand?
@jordanplays-transitandgame1690
@jordanplays-transitandgame1690 Жыл бұрын
Well first, get the Intel instead. Then get a 3090 if you can and an asus rog strix motherboard
@C0astinG4mer
@C0astinG4mer 9 ай бұрын
@@jordanplays-transitandgame1690well first, your wrong intel fanboy. If you want a good upgrade path, get the 7800x3d and the latest nvidia/amd gpu if no budget. Personally I wouldn’t go with an asus mobo due to their terrible quality control and poor voltage issues. Go with an msi/asrock mobo instead (that includes nzxt for aesthetics if it matter that much.
@fahadzargar8975
@fahadzargar8975 Жыл бұрын
Upgradability of the platform should be considered as well
@C0astinG4mer
@C0astinG4mer 9 ай бұрын
@@nostrum6410not exactly. Eventually you will upgrade your parts and the 13900k will have you completely fucked as you have to start fresh if you want a newer intel cpu. Am5 is covered for 5+ years
@Wunmaz
@Wunmaz Жыл бұрын
Its really a hard choice. I will choose the Ryzen 7 one but I9 was my first choice.
@mrwhiskers1471
@mrwhiskers1471 9 ай бұрын
Should have been you’re first choice the I-9 has the highest single core speeds with major overclocking ability.. games that are highly dependent on CPU like rimworld and war hammer rts games do much better with the i9 and it performes just as good on everything els
@C0astinG4mer
@C0astinG4mer 9 ай бұрын
⁠@@mrwhiskers1471the problem is the upgradability and price to performance. Let me explain intel fanboy. Not only does the 7800x3d stay cooler and consume less power but its am5 platform is being supported for 5+ years while you’ll basically have to trash your whole system with intels 15th gen chips. Amd is the obvious choice for gamers at the moment.
@C0astinG4mer
@C0astinG4mer 9 ай бұрын
@@mrwhiskers1471plus the 13900k is 150 extra dollars for a 10% performance boost. 7800x3d just can’t be beaten at the moment
@GameOnBoy0228
@GameOnBoy0228 Ай бұрын
I9 with ddr4 is a very bad option
@FielValeryRTS
@FielValeryRTS 11 ай бұрын
"Which one should you choose?" "My kidney"
@wellallnasib
@wellallnasib 2 ай бұрын
Finally an youtuber who is considering the absurd AM5 motherboard prices to the equation.
@TheDude50447
@TheDude50447 Жыл бұрын
Depends. For gaming the 13900k is an 8 core as well. Since the 13700k is also an 8 core when it comes to gaming and both have unlocked multipliers the 13900k shouldnt even be on your options list when it comes to purely gaming.
@dnsjtoh
@dnsjtoh Жыл бұрын
Yeah he didn’t even mention the e cores or realize that clock frequency doesn’t matter between AMD vs Intel because architectures are so different. Not the best short I’ve ever seen.
@MultiSciGeek
@MultiSciGeek Жыл бұрын
More such comparisons plz! Concise and to the point!
@MrMali22
@MrMali22 Жыл бұрын
And wrong. The Intel chip is 150 more dollars. That's 37 percent more expensive for 10 percent more performance.
@MultiSciGeek
@MultiSciGeek Жыл бұрын
@@MrMali22 No
@dnsjtoh
@dnsjtoh Жыл бұрын
And wrong because he didn’t realize that the 16 e cores in the 13900k aren’t even helpful for gaming and you can’t compare clock speeds between generations and between AMD and Intel because architectures are so different.
@LWAYH7688
@LWAYH7688 Жыл бұрын
i9 13900ks every day of the week
@Shadow_the_hunter
@Shadow_the_hunter 4 ай бұрын
I want to game with high cores and triple cache so I was thinking to go 7900 or 7950 because 8 cores is not cutting it in all general such as editing and playing so yeah I might go with all x3ds on am5 besides the 7800x3d
@abdaalzeb3703
@abdaalzeb3703 4 ай бұрын
good choice
@AugustineKusiDuah-bk4fr
@AugustineKusiDuah-bk4fr Жыл бұрын
This guy teaches like a teacher in class. Good work comparing the two chips bro
@eclampsium
@eclampsium 2 ай бұрын
Tell me about 13900 and 14900 faillure rates on servers and demanding apps where exactly the intel should shine?
@Sas7500F
@Sas7500F 8 ай бұрын
Сравнивать по играм❌ Сравнивать по характеристикам✅
@LionAir737RBLX
@LionAir737RBLX 10 ай бұрын
I'd rather pick i7-13700K instead. Rather than picking expensive 13th gen i9 or ryzen 7 7x3d that only focus on gaming
@Holirate
@Holirate Жыл бұрын
Underrated channel
@muktesh5710
@muktesh5710 Жыл бұрын
Fr
@Saian243
@Saian243 Жыл бұрын
Fr
@legendarygigan9855
@legendarygigan9855 Жыл бұрын
For no
@EdwardWongHauPepeluTivruskyIV.
@EdwardWongHauPepeluTivruskyIV. Жыл бұрын
Fr
@Conjertn
@Conjertn Жыл бұрын
Fr
@ilrompiscatole5414
@ilrompiscatole5414 6 ай бұрын
Worse comparison I’ve ever seen in my 30+ years of IT
@BlazzyRO
@BlazzyRO Жыл бұрын
i have i7-13700k in my pc and for me its the best CPU for everything
@nig3308
@nig3308 Жыл бұрын
@BlazzyRO I'm also tending to buy i7-13700k. What's the rest of your build?
@BlazzyRO
@BlazzyRO Жыл бұрын
@@nig3308 rtx 4070 ti + 32gb 6400mhz ddr5 + 1tb 990pro + 2tb nv2 + 2tb wd black hdd
@snareplug3872
@snareplug3872 Жыл бұрын
Do you think the i7 13 is enough ir should i get the i9 13 to pair with my 4070ti?
@akhilesh6072
@akhilesh6072 Жыл бұрын
​@@snareplug3872I'm thinking of the same build just not sure if I should get i9 13 or i7 13
@farcry123x
@farcry123x Жыл бұрын
@@snareplug3872you don’t need an I9 13th gen for the 4070ti, I’d go for the I7 13th gen but up to you really
@svingarm9283
@svingarm9283 9 ай бұрын
NEVER intel , intel sucks so bad. so so bad
@Piripinou4027
@Piripinou4027 Жыл бұрын
Intel core i9 13900k
@dotspot5990
@dotspot5990 8 ай бұрын
Im still sticking with amd, in love with the ryzens
@AdrianMuslim
@AdrianMuslim Жыл бұрын
You missed the most important part: Real world *PERFORMANCE*
@hermanwooster8944
@hermanwooster8944 Жыл бұрын
That's it. In real world performance the 7800x3d is the best in producing gaming fps when paired with a high-powered GPU, but in regular productivity tasks it is at or below a 7700x.
@AdrianMuslim
@AdrianMuslim Жыл бұрын
@@hermanwooster8944 That's why I got 7800X3D for gaming.
@goofyahh-cz5yy
@goofyahh-cz5yy Ай бұрын
Exactly. All of this yapping is USELESS.
@Hajime1988
@Hajime1988 9 сағат бұрын
Intel is a heater
@rayaxy8285
@rayaxy8285 11 ай бұрын
Team ryzen team intel 👇 👇
@rayaxy8285
@rayaxy8285 11 ай бұрын
Team intel 👇
@HawkBryantVT
@HawkBryantVT 10 ай бұрын
Team Ryzen
@Uzui_Tengen
@Uzui_Tengen 10 ай бұрын
Bruh
@Uzui_Tengen
@Uzui_Tengen 10 ай бұрын
Bruh
@Uzui_Tengen
@Uzui_Tengen 10 ай бұрын
Bruh
@spynix0718
@spynix0718 6 ай бұрын
You also forgot to add that Intel has not released the new socket for the next generation of processors. Ryzen has, so right now Ryzen is better since you can easily replace it.
@BluD
@BluD 10 ай бұрын
Intel is best for gamers who also use it as a workstation. Amd for pure gaming.
@Yasin5791-d7u
@Yasin5791-d7u 11 ай бұрын
What's the difference between the Ryzen 9 7950X3D Vs Ryzen 7 7800X3D
@unyu-cyberstorm64
@unyu-cyberstorm64 Жыл бұрын
This isn’t even a straight across comparison.
@vincentskuta
@vincentskuta 15 күн бұрын
Well, this aged like milk
@greengamma569
@greengamma569 10 ай бұрын
AMD heads are real desperate to try to convince people that the extra 3-5fps max the 7800x3d will give you in SOME games (Intel CPUs will beat amd in some games as well) makes it a better choice than the cheaper I9/I7 that absolutely demolishes it in anything not gaming related (and usually has much less issues to boot)
@squidigin9515
@squidigin9515 9 ай бұрын
7800x3d if all you’re going to do it game/basic browsing 13900k if you’re going to be doing other intensive tasks Threadripper if you’re doing crazy tasks and maybe sometimes gaming in your spare time
@brenxd_
@brenxd_ 22 күн бұрын
Short answer, ryzen
@Dwaxxx
@Dwaxxx 5 ай бұрын
The fact that we're comparing an i9 to a ryzen 7 is enough for me to know which cpu company is better.
@puffer4909
@puffer4909 23 күн бұрын
and..the amd one works while the intel one shits itself after a few months
@iLegionaire3755
@iLegionaire3755 Күн бұрын
Try weeks, I am a dead Intel Core i9 14900K owner, who switched to AMD and the Ryzen 7 7800X3D. Still 0% RMA. I am not saying I will never buy, or consider buying an Intel processor ever again, but its very unlikely now, because Intel scammed customers with Raptor Lake, no way around it.
@sergonson2074
@sergonson2074 11 ай бұрын
simple answer for best way to sell organs: buy a threadripper
@Mio96UwU
@Mio96UwU 7 ай бұрын
Im a all rounder kinda of person, that's why i buy the i9 13900k but if you are a heavy gamer, you definitely should go for amd 👍
@SnowTheKitsune
@SnowTheKitsune Жыл бұрын
if mty memory is correct cinebench actually prefers run well on intel and also intel is best with single core performance...
@justarandomdude457
@justarandomdude457 11 ай бұрын
The r7 7800x3d is just way better in gaming performance while the i9 is best in raw performance
@ryant2568
@ryant2568 Жыл бұрын
Different professors for different workflows: The 13900K is a workstation processor, it has more cores overall but more than half of them are efficiency cores. All 8 of the 7800X3D cores are full cores all capable of running at 5GHz at the same time. For gaming specifically, I would be taking the 7800X3D as it's cheaper and throws out about the same performance in games since most games can't make use of more than 8 cores so having fewer but faster cores with more L3 cache is the better option.
@castle2k007
@castle2k007 Жыл бұрын
SHORT: "I AM A GAMER."!DAMN IT
@svv.aviation
@svv.aviation 2 ай бұрын
And the 13th and 14th gen intel’s are having issues. Ryzen 7 all the way
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