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15 Rounds of FAFO!...KelTec KSG .410 Quick Range Review!

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Күн бұрын

Checking out the KelTec KSG shotgun chambered in .410. Could this smaller version of the 12 gauge be an effective defense tool?
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@CarolinaRimfire
@CarolinaRimfire 5 ай бұрын
"stealth gray: so stealthy, you can't even see the gray"
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 5 ай бұрын
Exactly!😂
@VS-ff4ez
@VS-ff4ez 5 ай бұрын
They apparently adhere to Henry Ford's philosophy. "You can have it in any color you like; so long as that color is black!" 😅😅
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 5 ай бұрын
Exactly!😂
@TUKByV
@TUKByV 5 ай бұрын
The KelTech Model T, now in .410!
@ranchlife8128
@ranchlife8128 Ай бұрын
They have 4 color options.👍
@sumoneelse6881
@sumoneelse6881 5 ай бұрын
You used more .410 today, then I can find locally. I'm glad you can find it. I like the tool. Great video
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 5 ай бұрын
It hurt my soul!😆
@jacobishii6121
@jacobishii6121 4 ай бұрын
I noticed it's a regional thing......out in the big city on the West Coast even Cabela's is usually not stocked with 410 even when there isn't ammo drought......I've since moved to where I hunt in the interior NW in a tiny little town in the mountains.I can't get a Starbucks coffee or a McDonald's burger in a 100 miles but there is plenty of 410 as it's always been popular here.
@brockhowell2296
@brockhowell2296 5 ай бұрын
I always enjoy Kel-Tec videos because they're so unique. Not all of them are complete winners, but you have to give em' respect for their innovative approach.
@coupe50h
@coupe50h 5 ай бұрын
I see i am not alone in wanting a 20 guage version. Its in high demand already.
@Saveyourbs
@Saveyourbs 3 ай бұрын
I got one today. I had to take in consideration my wife and 13yr old son need to be able to handle the gun as well. Fun to shoot and seems like it will get the job done with home defense. If not Avtomat Kalishnikov will make an appearance.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 3 ай бұрын
I think it's a very capable unit. I actually have given this one quite a facelift since this. I need to do an update video.
@lightweight1974
@lightweight1974 5 ай бұрын
As a Southpaw, I'm always intrigued by ambi tools. It'd be a good mod if the tubes would switch automatically.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 5 ай бұрын
That would definitely put it over the top.
@michaelmuchness
@michaelmuchness 4 ай бұрын
.410. is not to be underestimated. 15 rnds! Dam!
@semichiganandy2127
@semichiganandy2127 5 ай бұрын
Thanks. I'd never paid attention to this tool until this video. They seem to have gotten a lot right but sighting is so fundamental that it amazes me that they didn't make it easier.
@jimmydunn3775
@jimmydunn3775 5 ай бұрын
I think 13 years on the market is a pretty good mile marker for the KSG. Not saying there wasn’t bumps in the road but I also know 70% of everyone that I have seen having issues looks like a personal technique issues. You (not you personally) can not run a pump shot gun with kid gloves on, you have to run it like it owes you money!! Now I get it, all manufactures have some lemons but at some point you (not you personally) got to just stop blaming the company when the track record stands that there are some proven reliable items from this manufacturer. For the record, I personally am not a Kel Tec fan boy, I actually prefer IWI, it just gets old seeing people bash a company just because of a hiccup when all of the industry is guilty of it.
@blantant
@blantant 7 күн бұрын
Many defects like light primer strikes, are not user induced
@timrobinson6573
@timrobinson6573 5 ай бұрын
Good Review. I wish they made a KS7 style single tube shotgun in 410
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 5 ай бұрын
Just use one tube on this instead of both.😜
@T.R.R.Jolkien
@T.R.R.Jolkien 5 ай бұрын
My first gun was a savage arms .410 in the 70’s. My friend still has it… 😎
@MichaelGolpe
@MichaelGolpe 5 ай бұрын
23:01 Excellent video, T&T! It’s a gorgeous piece, the use-case may be limited, but once the issues are resolved it could be very popular!
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 5 ай бұрын
Thank you sir. I think it has some good potential.😎👍
@ronaldbarnes8302
@ronaldbarnes8302 5 ай бұрын
Definitely like the concept of a LW short 410. An optic should make a huge difference. Nice video thanks for sharing Tools!
@327Federal
@327Federal 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for shining light on this!
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 5 ай бұрын
😎👊
@fin59shaw
@fin59shaw 5 ай бұрын
KSGs are great! I have the 12G, I like to have a tube of slugs, and a tube of whatever else.
@JoeSmith-fu9yx
@JoeSmith-fu9yx 5 ай бұрын
I swear 20 gauge gets no love lol
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 5 ай бұрын
Might just have a little something in 20 gauge I gotta get tested too.😎👊
@coupe50h
@coupe50h 5 ай бұрын
The very few I want in 20 ga are always sold out. 😢 You can get a shockwave in 20 though.
@JoeSmith-fu9yx
@JoeSmith-fu9yx 5 ай бұрын
I was referring more to manufacturers, but it would be nice to see more testing done on your end, you’re probably the most thorough without going all gun geek lol.@@ToolsandTargets
@primalcode3057
@primalcode3057 4 ай бұрын
20 GA Slugs are flat shooting and hard hitting
@JoeSmith-fu9yx
@JoeSmith-fu9yx 4 ай бұрын
@@primalcode3057 I love mine and the wife can handle it too which is always plus.
@rsbreeze
@rsbreeze 5 ай бұрын
People saying they can't find .410 ammo must be still using pagers!
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 5 ай бұрын
You know if they can't walk out their front door and find it laying in the yard, it doesn't exist.😆
@rsbreeze
@rsbreeze 5 ай бұрын
@@ToolsandTargets I'm trying that!
@Biomass1
@Biomass1 5 ай бұрын
Have you tried lakes and rivers? Evidently there's a butt ton of guns, from boating misshaps. Can't believe there wouldn't be butt tons of ammo as well.
@Saveyourbs
@Saveyourbs 3 ай бұрын
Exactly
@user-zh4cq4zy1n
@user-zh4cq4zy1n 5 ай бұрын
Hey man, your #'s are moving up! I'm glad, I wanna see U get to the BIG 100K!!!
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 5 ай бұрын
Slowly but surely!😎👊
@dzink4624
@dzink4624 4 ай бұрын
Can't wait to see the update video on this. I'm looking to add some optics to mine. I'd love to see what you went with
@kevinramsey4673
@kevinramsey4673 5 ай бұрын
Great video as usual. I wish someone would start making 20 gauges. My wife likes the 20 gauge. She'll shoot my 1100's and 1301 in 12 gauge but doesn't enjoy it. She wants nothing to do with my A5 or Benelli Nova. I don't mind adds during a video because hopefully it helps put jingle in your pocket, but they just slapped us in the face with the add I got. It was a donate to Biden and Kamala 😳 Keep up the incredible content you put out. I check for new videos every day. It should warm up pretty quickly for you. I'm on the Kentucky/Tennessee line and it's 78 here.
@rsbreeze
@rsbreeze 5 ай бұрын
Benelli M2 Field Shotgun......smooth as butter no recoil!
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 5 ай бұрын
Thank you sir. Unfortunately I don't get to pick which ads run.😆
@PhycoKrusk
@PhycoKrusk 5 ай бұрын
Maybe not, but I didn't think any of us are going to be convinced away from what we already think by an ad from one side or the other, so I say take the ad money and run.
@kevinramsey4673
@kevinramsey4673 5 ай бұрын
Tools I know. Wasn't whining because I want people to make money. It just took me by surprise. I generally don't get liberal commercials. I'd suffer through them every day to watch your channel 🇺🇲
@kevinramsey4673
@kevinramsey4673 5 ай бұрын
@rsbreeze thanks!
@327Federal
@327Federal 5 ай бұрын
000 buckshot is vicious in 410 gauge
@pricelessppp
@pricelessppp 5 ай бұрын
Imagine from a semi auto!
@327Federal
@327Federal 5 ай бұрын
@@pricelessppp True
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 5 ай бұрын
Yeah, you're talkin over 50 pellets with a mag dump with pretty much zero recoil.
@327Federal
@327Federal 5 ай бұрын
@@ToolsandTargets driving tacks
@rabbit365charm8
@rabbit365charm8 5 ай бұрын
All tests I seen is that 000 buckshot smashes in the barrel before it leaves the barrel.
@adamannala5498
@adamannala5498 5 ай бұрын
I think it’s pretty cool and you could tell that it cycles well and handles recoil real well. Shame about the point of aim on the sights, but an optic will probably clear that right up for you.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 5 ай бұрын
I think so.😎👊
@richdoherty64
@richdoherty64 5 ай бұрын
I like the 410 round. I had a Shockwave but traded it for a Remington 870 TSS Turkey pump shotgun. The stock is mossyoak camo. Nice hunting/bugout gun.
@smibru
@smibru 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the review Tools, I was on the fence about getting one of these and now that you showed us what it's about. I will get on in the future.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 5 ай бұрын
😎👊
@fanbatcher
@fanbatcher 5 ай бұрын
Escort now offers a Turkish made knockoff of the KSG/KS7 called the BullTac in .410, 20 and 12 gauges. It is half the price of the KelTec. It’s probably more than half the gun, they look pretty well made.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 5 ай бұрын
They're single tube instead of dual which is the main "feature" of these KSG's. I do have a few Turkish shottys that have all run good.😎👍
@fanbatcher
@fanbatcher 5 ай бұрын
@@ToolsandTargets But for $250 you can’t go wrong.
@user-dg3ol2xu6x
@user-dg3ol2xu6x 5 ай бұрын
it looks pretty sweet too. Would be a nice backup gun to the KSG. I am intrigued by the semi automatic .410 one
@Rokomarn
@Rokomarn 4 ай бұрын
​@@fanbatcher it's not downward ejecting
@jonclark8155
@jonclark8155 5 ай бұрын
I think somebody’s colorblind at kel tec good video sir.
@heinous70
@heinous70 4 ай бұрын
Yay! Someone finally made the perfect Home Defense weapon for my 5 ft 1, 110 lb girlfriend. Unfortunately, Kel-Tec did it😅 The only brand of ever brought home, and felt the need to do finishing work with an X-Acto Knife. Funny you mentioned the circuit judge. Almost had her talked into one of those several years ago
@YellowHammer26
@YellowHammer26 5 ай бұрын
👍👍 Thanks Tools, excellent job on the review. I would love to have one of those.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 5 ай бұрын
Thank you sir.😎👊
@Joe5561000
@Joe5561000 4 ай бұрын
My mom, who's in her 70's, is less than 5' tall, and only weighs about 90 lbs. soaking wet, bought one of these. She has no problem getting behind the sight. She shot it very well with several types of shells. I shot it several times too. I'm 5' 9" and 250+lbs. I didn't notice a problem getting behind the sight either. Reloading it during a fire fight would be a death sentence however, it's almost a death sentence just loading it, without being in a fire fight. We did have some malfunctions when we were using 2.5" bird shot. Thankfully it worked great with 3" defensive loads. The malfunction would occur after shooting through the first magazine on the second mag the third to last round, would stick in the chamber. It happened all three times we shot that ammo. The extractor would slip off the rim of the shell and would not grab it again, even setting the magazine selector to the middle and racking it several times would not extract the shell. The only way to get it out was to pry it out with a knife or I suppose you could put a cleaning rod or something similar down the barrel. At the end of the day my mom decided she likes her Extar EP9 better for home defense.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 4 ай бұрын
Interesting. Haven't had any issues with this one so far. I do have a nice sight setup on it now and have another little upgrade coming for it this week.😎👊
@chretired
@chretired 5 ай бұрын
Good no bull review Tools. Based on what I'm hearing I'm not interested in this "thing". Thanks for giving us a real honest opinion. Be vigilant and always be safe my friend.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 5 ай бұрын
😎👊
@Bistoink2009
@Bistoink2009 5 ай бұрын
I like this thing, warts and all! It will make a great home defense weapon - compact, low recoil, and .410 buckshot at close range is very, very lethal. Cool weapon, enjoyable review!
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 5 ай бұрын
Thank you sir. I have given it a nice little sight upgrade that I gotta get out and do an update on.😎👊
@843MustyBunghole
@843MustyBunghole 5 ай бұрын
Keltec does a lot of cool firearms innovation. I really don’t understand why other big names don’t get into the bullpup thing. A reliable semi-auto bullpup .410 or 20 gauge imo has the potential to be a allstar home defense set up especially with dual tubes like this one.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 5 ай бұрын
I know a lot of people hate on bullpups in general but I like em.
@happysnowfish
@happysnowfish 5 ай бұрын
​@@ToolsandTargets I'm not so sure about the Bullpup design for the sole reason that the action is right there at the shooter's face. If there's a bad (hot) load it has much more potential to damage the shooter than a rifle/shotgun with a more traditional action. Otherwise I actually really like the concept.
@843MustyBunghole
@843MustyBunghole 5 ай бұрын
@@happysnowfish never thought of that, you have a good point.
@jeloughman427
@jeloughman427 5 ай бұрын
I picked up the Escort Bulltac in 20 gauge. Not the semiauto, the pump, but they are making a semiauto.
@quickgearshifter2719
@quickgearshifter2719 4 ай бұрын
There is one company that makes a few nice bull pups , IWI. I have a Tavor TS12 with the three rotating magazines that hold five 2.5” shells in each tube, or four 3” shells. That’s up to a 15 + 1 capacity, and the ability to have 3 different types of loads in one gun. Check it out y’all.
@jaredgreen5840
@jaredgreen5840 5 ай бұрын
What an Easter surprise. I was waiting to see this tool in action 😄
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 5 ай бұрын
Despite the sights not being for me, I think this thing has serious potential. That's an easy fix.
@johnblackwood1337
@johnblackwood1337 5 ай бұрын
I seriously Atomic not getting the ks-7 12 gauge to carry in my backpack when I'm in Squatch country. I think I'm going to get the SXP though.
@ryanzanow8221
@ryanzanow8221 5 ай бұрын
Dude, the real question is….did you find your Easter Basket today? If you did, what was in it? Happy Easter, man! Great video, once again!
@withoutprejudice8301
@withoutprejudice8301 5 ай бұрын
Speaking of Easter (since you brought it up).., do you know WHY the Easter Bunny hides his eggs?......., because he doesn't want anybody to find out that he f*cks chickens!.
@chuckstuckey9450
@chuckstuckey9450 2 ай бұрын
I just bought the KSG 410. I wanted something for home defense that my wife could handle and this looked like a great option. Would you mind doing a video on how to install the sight upgrades and if you decide to change the slide out for something with picanny on the bottom to accommodate a pistol grip that would be awesome. I am glad I ran across your vids. Thanks.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 ай бұрын
Appreciate that. I actually need to do a video on that. I have it setup with the rail and red dot/backup sights now.😎👍
@chuckstuckey9450
@chuckstuckey9450 2 ай бұрын
@@ToolsandTargets thanks for the reply. I look forward to more of your content.
@mp15a
@mp15a 5 ай бұрын
Happy Easter Tools! Thanks For the Work!
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 5 ай бұрын
Thank you sir. Same to you!😎👊
@InTheYear
@InTheYear 5 ай бұрын
Awesome content! Glad to see the review of this Kel Tec. Makes me believe 410 could be a reliable chambering for defense
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 5 ай бұрын
I wouldn't feel underpowered with this thing full of 3" buck or slugs.😎👊
@user-hb3uy7hr7s
@user-hb3uy7hr7s 5 ай бұрын
Buy the 410 shells first before buying the gun.
@InTheYear
@InTheYear 5 ай бұрын
@@user-hb3uy7hr7s Not here in New York. You would end up paying the state two transfer fees instead of one for purchases on separate dates.
@VintageBarbieDoll
@VintageBarbieDoll 5 ай бұрын
I like it the style looks like from the future
@palerider7171
@palerider7171 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the review. My FFL had two so I might pick one up. It would be interesting to see if Keltec has any feedback on the sights. Thanks again.
@30rdmaga
@30rdmaga 5 ай бұрын
Kel-tec gets a lot of flak but i think they're awesome.
@chrislang5659
@chrislang5659 5 ай бұрын
I thought you were gonna use "FAFO" ammo?😮 There is a guy "Ballistic Machinist" he makes a slug by the same name. Featured on Taufladermous. I see a red-dot in that shotguns near future! Happy Easter to you and yours!❤❤❤
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 5 ай бұрын
Thank you sir. Same to you!😎👊
@sylviajones3355
@sylviajones3355 5 ай бұрын
I'd like to see some .410 tests from a full length barrel. Lab radar/chrono and jelly contraption. Mainly slugs and buckshot.
@Biomass1
@Biomass1 5 ай бұрын
Judge with 000 Federals and Crimson Trace white light on a lug rail. Works great as a home defense tool. If it fits your situation. It's but one option.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 5 ай бұрын
😎👊
@GrouchoTM
@GrouchoTM 4 ай бұрын
I know Kel Tec gets a lot of flack but i has the KSG and its awesome! Its size makes it perfect for home defense!
@exodo7727
@exodo7727 5 ай бұрын
They have a replacement optics rail they offer for the ks7 they might have one for this one as well. I haven’t taken mine to the range yet but if it’s off I will be replacing that
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 5 ай бұрын
Yep, I have one for this ordered. Should have an optic setup for it too.😎👊
@gregsmith8469
@gregsmith8469 5 ай бұрын
Brad Williams has a collection of those little Kelteks.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 5 ай бұрын
😎👍
@steelpunisher6944
@steelpunisher6944 5 ай бұрын
Very cool lil shotty!! But that sighting issue would be maddening. It’s not like you can shave the rear sight down of it was hitting high. I’m curious to see how you remedy that. But nice new tool for sure 👍🇺🇸🇺🇸
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 5 ай бұрын
Exactly. If they would have left that plastic tab really tall, you could at least cut it to length for POI.
@WayStedYou
@WayStedYou 5 ай бұрын
That is the blackest grey I've ever seen
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 5 ай бұрын
You aint lyin.😂
@mfwic61
@mfwic61 5 ай бұрын
James Reeves did a burn down on the KSG 12, it did alright but it did fail before it hit the 500rds. That's a brutal test he does tho
@mdarks4117
@mdarks4117 Ай бұрын
People kind of overlook 410 shotguns but in theory, if this was someone’s SHTF/ bugout/ budget 1 gun, he/ she could carry a lot of .410 compared to 12ga 😀
@r.b.keisler396
@r.b.keisler396 5 ай бұрын
If you just had a bead on it like a traditional shotgun, I believe that would solve all your point of impact problems. [Shorter front sight]
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 5 ай бұрын
Yeah, or if they would have left that tab a lot higher on the back.
@MrSumGuns
@MrSumGuns 5 ай бұрын
Maybe impact is low because of offset with barrel and carry handle? I get the same thing with my PS 90. I don't know just a thought. Great video as always thanks? Your the man!
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 5 ай бұрын
That's definitely why.
@josephpacchetti5997
@josephpacchetti5997 5 ай бұрын
I'm a bit late today, but It seems to be a good piece, you may have heard of this In the past, a pump action 12-gauge can put more lead on target with 00 buck faster than a sub machine gun, Thanks Brian! 👍🇺🇸
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 5 ай бұрын
Seems like I'm always late these days.😆 Yessir, even this .410 is slinging over 50 pellets if you empty the tubes.
@LuckyDog350X
@LuckyDog350X 5 ай бұрын
Man I was really rooting for this thing to be a good little unit, because say what you want it is just plain cool looking to me. It really is a shame about the sight picture, that they did not come up with something better/more functional. Id be interested to see what you come up with for the sights. Happy Easter have a good one brother see you on the next one.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 5 ай бұрын
I'm still optimistic it's gonna be a little powerhouse once I get it set up. I have a picc rail on the way for it. Happy Easter, brother!😎👊
@fanbatcher
@fanbatcher 5 ай бұрын
I installed the optional pic rail on my .410 and installed some Magpul iron sights. It’s perfectly comfortable and accurate to shoot, especially slugs
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 5 ай бұрын
Got the rail delivered yesterday. Gonna get it setup with a dot and probably a set of MBUS for backup.😎👊
@fanbatcher
@fanbatcher 5 ай бұрын
It allows for a comfortable cheek weld. I did however have to send mine back for servicing. Keltec installed an upgraded selector switch and a new bolt assembly. I was having light strike and feed problems.
@coreymerrill3257
@coreymerrill3257 5 ай бұрын
I'd have to play with one to know for sure, but either they made the" sights" to work like traditional shotgun beads ,meaning you DON'T aim ,you point and they are alignment/lead references that are not focused on OR you got a defect of some sort... Shotgunning is a completely different discipline than rifle shooting and unless it's a slug gun , using them as you would a rifle causes issues. When off camera , pattern it . Find poa/poi on a refrigerator box and then do the standard patterning exercises . It's very possible you are just trying to add too much distance by aiming for a tool designed for home defense . So another option is to Try home defense distances of 3,5,7,10 and 15 yards. Obviously if you want to, but all shotguns should be patterned to know shot distributions. Does it take screw in chokes ? If it's just a cylinder bore ,it's a .410 so start thinking in terms of feet away . 50 feet is stretching it's legs with such a short barrel and wide "choke".
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 5 ай бұрын
These sights are meant for front/rear alignment. They even show you the "correct" sight picture you should use. It's just terrible alignment for the height over bore and since you have no drop on the stock, it's a real chore even trying to get behind it. I have a picc rail on the way to fix it up.😎👍
@picwik281
@picwik281 5 ай бұрын
Oh man, I don’t know how practical it is but, it sure looks like fun 😆😆😆
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 5 ай бұрын
It is!😎👊
@rickh9396
@rickh9396 5 ай бұрын
I had a Keltec Sub2000 that was a weird color between ODG and FDE. I don't think KelTec puts a lot of effort into matching exact colors for their polymer parts.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 5 ай бұрын
This is sure the blackest "grey" I've ever seen.😆
@scarifrougeone7225
@scarifrougeone7225 5 ай бұрын
Hey Tools was waiting on this video I figured you picked up that KSG .410! I agree with you I really like the concept and how handles but that sight picture would be tough to maintain. Having to hold that far above is tough and not a normal practice. Glad you did a first thoughts and shots on this new Tool. I really like my .410 Circuit Judge and was hoping this was a good concept too. Any thoughts on how you are going to deal with the sights? Great video and thanks for sharing. Be safe. ⭐️⭐️🇺🇸⭐️⭐️
@Hanover_Fist
@Hanover_Fist 5 ай бұрын
WOW..Tools, This is the best KSG review I have ever seen. Thanks, Just Stellar!
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 5 ай бұрын
Fun times my friend. Be a good grouse getter up here.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 5 ай бұрын
😎👊
@DirtyDovi
@DirtyDovi 4 ай бұрын
Great demo and review dude! I can't wait to get my paws on a mini-brother for my KSG. These little 410s Rock! Sam -
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 4 ай бұрын
Thank you sir. I need to do an update video on this one after setting up some nice sights.😎👍
@DirtyDovi
@DirtyDovi 4 ай бұрын
@@ToolsandTargets Most welcome, and very cool. I definitely look forward to that!
@brucethomason6347
@brucethomason6347 4 ай бұрын
Glad you did this video ,I was wondering on accuracy with the high hand guard
@toddabbott781
@toddabbott781 4 ай бұрын
Are you supposed to maybe put the triangle on top of the square (instead of behind it) so it looks like a little house with a green roof? Personally I think the grab handle style sight looks pretty ugly too. I really like the idea of this KSG-410 as the regular KSG has a lot of kick and you really have to shuck it aggressively to get it to feed the next round. I just like a 410 as there are a ton of different rounds and it would make the a great gun for plinking, home defense, hunting... I think a red dot would go well with this gun.
@frankensteincreations4740
@frankensteincreations4740 4 ай бұрын
Need to figure out a way to make a new rear post… A taller one… Like a drywall screw lol. That way it still is dark and has a flat top surface… 👍
@pistolgrip44mag
@pistolgrip44mag 5 ай бұрын
I have the KS7. It has the same issues with sight over bore and getting low enough to properly sight. I have the Pic rail for it, but was wanting to save it for the KSG410 when I get one. (I have an In-Force light attached to my KS7 and like how it sits on the front of the carry handle and don't really want to change it.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 5 ай бұрын
I have the picc rail on the way for this one. I was really hoping the handle sight lined up nicely mostly just because I like the look.😂
@larrycaro1333
@larrycaro1333 4 ай бұрын
Great job thank you so much
@ironidjit3266
@ironidjit3266 5 ай бұрын
Rock on tools!
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 5 ай бұрын
😎👊
@bobwallace5257
@bobwallace5257 5 ай бұрын
Seems to me if Keltec solves the sighting issue this would be an excellent weapon to have around!!!
@lennykibbs260
@lennykibbs260 5 ай бұрын
Glad you mentioned it.. damn thing killing my neck..... ended up bore sighting it, zeroed my lazer to it and shoot it from the hip, my neck feels much better...lol. First time I took the gun to the range the RSO was telling me im not using the sights??? took his suggestion contorted my neck and shot like shit after..... was doing better when I was guesstimating......... still like the gun tho
@MrArob826
@MrArob826 3 ай бұрын
Now you got me nervous. I bought this, but if it shoots low, that could be a problem
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 3 ай бұрын
The sight/sight picture may work for you, but it sure didn't for me. I have fixed it up since this and need to do an update. Ended up ditching the handle for the full rail and put some flip up sights and a red dot on it.
@kc0lif
@kc0lif 5 ай бұрын
great self defense gun.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 5 ай бұрын
I think it will be too once I get it set up a little more.
@user-dg3ol2xu6x
@user-dg3ol2xu6x 5 ай бұрын
I got mine last month, pretty sure I ordered the "Stealth Gray", but mine is basically black as well like yours. My magazine tubes and buttstock look a little darker than yours too actually. anyway, love the gun, no recoil, perfect for home defense.
@general-Lee-700
@general-Lee-700 5 ай бұрын
Looks like I'm getting myself a new python gun
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 5 ай бұрын
💥🐍💥
@leroycaudill96
@leroycaudill96 5 ай бұрын
Not my cup of tea but it looks cool Tools enjoyed watching you shoot it your point of aim was real good better than mine would be thanks and God Bless look forward to the next one.
@2APatriot
@2APatriot 4 ай бұрын
I've not seen .410 in my gunshop for over 2 years.
@jeffwilson1217
@jeffwilson1217 5 ай бұрын
You'll have to shave off some of that rear triangle sight, a little at a time, until you achieve the correct POA. Nice, thorough review as always Tools!😊
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 5 ай бұрын
That would make it impact even lower. I'd have to add height to the rear to bring the impact point up, unfortunately. I have a picc rail on the way for it to just stick a red dot on and get rid of the handle.😎👍
@jeffwilson1217
@jeffwilson1217 5 ай бұрын
@@ToolsandTargets oops! You're so right! Sorry, "senior moment!" I have a Remington r51 that has the same problem.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 5 ай бұрын
@@jeffwilson1217 Got the rail and a red dot with some co-witness back up irons put on it today. It's a beautifully lined up sight picture when you shoulder it now.😎👊
@Jefftimpea
@Jefftimpea 3 ай бұрын
Great for a senior citizen home defense
@donakahorse
@donakahorse 5 ай бұрын
Happy Easter brother, thanks for this, I always thought bullpups looked cool, but I have very little use for most of them. dual tubes still seem gimmicky to me. Im probably just getting old. LOL toss that sticky ammo, it's not worth the hassle.
@tomlubas1512
@tomlubas1512 5 ай бұрын
Guns blacker than your jacket. I watched your 590 410 was impressed. I originally was hot for this one but the problem with the sight could be a deal breaker.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 5 ай бұрын
Agreed. I shouldn't have had to, but I do have this thing setup right now. Full picc rail and a red dot with backup irons. Gotta do an update on it.😎👊
@hersheyroseman4508
@hersheyroseman4508 5 ай бұрын
The Mcarbo Aluminum Trigger upgrade is definitely worth it. Although I found the stock 5lbs fine, the Aluminum upgrade is worth it. I think you are also running into height over bore at close range with the standard sights.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 5 ай бұрын
Oh there's no doubt there is height over bore at close-up, but this thing shoots 3 feet low at 25 yds if you line up the sights.😂 They're just poorly positioned and non-adjustable, unfortunately. I have the picc rail on the way to get it fixed up. This trigger is surprisingly not bad, but I am a sucker for upgrades.😆
@hersheyroseman4508
@hersheyroseman4508 5 ай бұрын
@@ToolsandTargets I hear you good video as always.
@JohnD357
@JohnD357 5 ай бұрын
I've had a KSG for years, the original design without the carry handle. I have a Tasco 40mm red dot mounted on the Pic rail. I've never had to do any contortions or hold my head in strange ways to mount the gun and see through the red dot. I would definitely not be interested in one with that big handle on it. Naturally the point of impact would be low because of it.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 5 ай бұрын
Yeah, I have the straight picc rail for this one coming today so I can get a dot mounted on it.😎👊
@billsummy2412
@billsummy2412 5 ай бұрын
Now that`s a .410 .... Love it pard , Great review Happy Easter to you and your family !
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 5 ай бұрын
Thank you sir. Happy Easter!
@drutang
@drutang 5 ай бұрын
cool .410!! love the hat... HELL YEAH, Brother!!! 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
@WhistlesToAnimals
@WhistlesToAnimals 19 күн бұрын
I liked this gun and was thinking of getting one, but then I was turned off by the 410 feature. I wish there was a 20 gauge version available. That would have been ideal. Seems as if a 12 gauge is too extreme and a 410 is too rare (harder to get shells), why didn't they just make it at the sweet spot in the first place (20 gauge).
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 19 күн бұрын
I actually have more .410 than 20 gauge ammo at the moment. The 20 is a lot easier to find for most folks though.
@michaellydon5235
@michaellydon5235 5 ай бұрын
Just scored 18 boxes of .410 4 shot and 6 shot. Slso 000 at bass pro
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 5 ай бұрын
Nice 😎👊
@user-dg3ol2xu6x
@user-dg3ol2xu6x 5 ай бұрын
AE Ammo has a great deal on 3 inch WInchester PDX1 Defender rounds right now
@Bob-lq9ys
@Bob-lq9ys 5 ай бұрын
Very good review, too bad the sights wasn't better. Thanks for sharing
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 5 ай бұрын
Thank you sir.😎👊
@InvidiousIgnoramus
@InvidiousIgnoramus 4 ай бұрын
You know, it would be mighty cool if they could figure a way to make this in a revolver caliber. that would be a lot of fun.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 4 ай бұрын
That would be very cool.
@KD-lb9bg
@KD-lb9bg 5 ай бұрын
Good stuff, thanks for the show and tell.
@robertseafield5810
@robertseafield5810 5 ай бұрын
Good video. Looks like a fun gun when you get it zeroed.
@DestroyerOfWombs
@DestroyerOfWombs 5 ай бұрын
I like the idea of this, especially the capacity , but I don’t trust KelTec. I REALLY like the idea of a 410 upper on an AR, but I’m not sure any of those are up to par, either. Would love to see your take on one of those, if possible. Until then, I might settle for a 419 Shockwave. Decisions, decisions…
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 5 ай бұрын
I have totally written off a .410 AR. I would never trust that. I don't have numbers, but I'd be willing to bet that detachable mag based shotguns are the worst as far as reliability, especially a "conversion" type setup in a platform it wasn't meant for. Most places have trouble even getting simple .350 legend AR uppers to function reliably, much less a shotgun shell.
@proZach380
@proZach380 5 ай бұрын
Another innovative if bizarre Kel-Tec. Have you gotten your hands on a P50 (or R50) in 5.7x28 yet?
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 5 ай бұрын
Nah, I have a PS90 so never really looked at those.
@earldelsanto
@earldelsanto 4 ай бұрын
I like it. Be a great house sweeper.
@keithsterner4410
@keithsterner4410 5 ай бұрын
I have the ks7 same color black. And same terrible sights .also I can get 12+1 of 1¾ short shells with slight modification to the follower
@greghaislip9408
@greghaislip9408 3 ай бұрын
Its a shotgun folks....short barrel, very compact for home defence. Not made to aim like a rifle...
@Jesticleez
@Jesticleez 5 ай бұрын
Grey or black that’s a bad A tool Mr. Targets!
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 5 ай бұрын
I'm diggin it.
@jeffhays1968
@jeffhays1968 4 ай бұрын
KelTec 10 out of 10 for innovation, sadly often 5 out of ten for actual construction and utility. My PMR-30 runs 100% though, can't complain. Cute gun though.
@jeffhays1968
@jeffhays1968 4 ай бұрын
Red dot maybe ?
@mountainview540
@mountainview540 5 ай бұрын
410 is very popular these days. It's kinda like 9mm, not super powerful, lots of different ammo loads. I will stick with 45acp and 12 gauge. Doesn't mean I don't own a 410 or 9mm, kinda a coll idea
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 5 ай бұрын
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