Swap DLSS with TAA in the Anti-aliasing setting. You will still be able to use Frame Generation, but the sim will look even better! It's especially noticeable when you look at water.
@denziiey Жыл бұрын
Yup and the screens are much sharper. The frame rates were welcoming but those blurry screens I just couldn't do it. Nvidia is supposed to update DLSS 3 some time this year
@amiththomas3884 Жыл бұрын
@@denziiey any luck updating to the new 2.5.1 dll ? (from portal RTX)
@denziiey Жыл бұрын
@@amiththomas3884 I'll have to check. I haven't seen any driver or firmware updates show up. I'll check!
@ntope001 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely, that’s the best way to play!
@sephiroth4543 Жыл бұрын
Does that work in VR
@kaisersolo76 Жыл бұрын
Locked behind a crazy price . Anyone on AM4 playing MSFS2020 5800x3d is your goto cpu and pairs nicely with this card
@billbrowning3021 Жыл бұрын
Yep.
@Cdawg-vb7no Жыл бұрын
@@billbrowning3021 yup. But paired mine with a 4080. Not sure if there's much difference between the 4080 and 4090 because I use 1440p. 4K I would say 4090 for sure
@omegacoretv Жыл бұрын
I'm using it with a 4080, never been happier
@sephiroth4543 Жыл бұрын
@user-ei7lz2mt5y 4080 is a solid card and at 1440p you would be stupid to get the 4090 unless all you do is VR gaming and even then the 4080 is a very strong card
@4secsharkmr352 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your video. The 4090 shines at higher resolution. Put the renderscale in Msfs to 130 or higher and you will see that the GPU gets over 50% and the FPS are rising. In VR I get 2 times more FPS than with my 3090. Msfs is by the way not CPU bound. The problem is that only a few cores are used. It is not very good in multithreading. But that has nothing do do with the performance of the 4090. That card is like a turbo engine. It needs higher resolution. For example in VR In normal TAA or DLSS mode it is likely as fast as a 3090. DLSS 3 is not really efficient ATM and you definitely see any difference while flying. For 2D flying the card is absolutely not necessary. But essentially for VR flying.
@mikeydude750 Жыл бұрын
That still is a CPU bound, it's just a more difficult one to overcome as you can't just add more cores. Simulations just require high single-thread performance and large cache by the very nature of how they tie everything in to the simulation.
@Frankestein01nl Жыл бұрын
After you mentioned the usage of wattage, i noticed it actually went to 350+ watts multiple times over longer times. Yeah, it's a lovely card.... massively big and massively priced. And it still depends on the combo of MB, CPU and memory, as the game has always been. And thanks for the comparison video!!
@ofon2000 Жыл бұрын
idk if it's overpriced...it's just out of my price range for sure. This is a top tier premium GPU! However 4080 and 4070 ti are def overpriced...
@channelvr1293 Жыл бұрын
MSFS is absolutely the best visual game i have ever seen. (well google earth in VR comes close ) but i just use VR only, i think we still need much more power. Owning a 4090 now but cant wait to get my hands on a 5090 or even 6090 in 6 years. By then Unreal6 will make everything so foto realistic we wont be able to see the difference between VR and the real world. And 6 years is not long anymore ;-)
@cmdrls212 Жыл бұрын
I got my 4090 last week and are super impressed. I get 100fps in atmospheric clouds at very high even in star citizen which is far more punishing on gpus than optimized games. The RTX4090 is just ridiculously fast.
@Neibilim Жыл бұрын
no kidding sherlock
@sksupply Жыл бұрын
I'm still on my RTX 3070 and I lock my frames at 30fps. It always looks beautiful and smooth to me, but I must admit, your demonstration here is phenomenal.
@Elwaves2925 Жыл бұрын
I'm on a GTX 1070ti and also lock at 30fps and 1080p. It also looks beautiful to me and while I can't claim everything is smooth, for the vast majority it is smooth.
@rabbie68 Жыл бұрын
Very happy with 30fps at 2k with my 3060...😎👍
@sksupply Жыл бұрын
@@rabbie68 Yes, 2K here too. 32". Looks great.
@gerrypi51 Жыл бұрын
I agree (25fps on my GTX 1060). Some Hollywood films are filmed at 24fps (cinema look).
@deltak5457 Жыл бұрын
Yes, I'm also locked at around 30 FPS (33.3) - watching the footage over here makes me uncomfortable not because of high frames but these micro stutters honestly drive me crazy. These are not that noticeable on lower FPS imho. I'm for now fine with what my RTX 2080ti offers me and now I'm just waiting for some RTX effects like lights, ray tracing, shadows and reflections (which I hope will come down the road!)
@melvinmurithi Жыл бұрын
That overhead shot of the Jet at 13:28 is worth an oscar. Great review!!!!
@photoeducationbydaniel Жыл бұрын
With DLSS3 there are issues with ghosting digits EG when you're climbing and you watch your altitude/speed readings the digit's motion blur.I don't understand why this isn't spoken about! It makes DLSS basically useless with glass cockpits
@robertvanzant2653 Жыл бұрын
The new X3D amd chips should be amazing with this sim
@rockyjetproject1345 Жыл бұрын
Just got my 4090 yesterday. Upgraded from a 3090ti and it’s phenomenal. I have it locked at 30 fps smooth as butter and everything on ultra except I have it on 300 instead of 400 for land detail but I have AI traffic on almost at 100 on everything and I’m at 4k monitor. Truly amazing . I fly PMDG .
@simcptmike Жыл бұрын
I have a 3090ti as well and I'm wondering what your card would be like on xplane 12. I don't use fs2020 not really a fan.
@rockyjetproject1345 Жыл бұрын
@@simcptmike I don’t own xplane but I still have P3Dv5.3 installed, I don’t have the heart to uninstall it as FSX also. I did a flight on P3D and I was getting frames from 68-73 on the ground with almost all sliders max. Graphic wise it was maxed. I don’t know how xplane runs but FSX and P3d are very, very CPU intensive as is FS2020. I should have mentioned that I also got a 13 gen I9-13900k cpu. I had a 12th gen i9-12900k cpu and when I installed the card, the CPU was weak against the 4090 and it was bottlenecking the CPU. Now, with the 13th gen, it’s the opposite. The CPU is too powerful for the 4090 which is what we want that way the card can use it’s maximum capability graphic wise. Before the 13th gen upgrade, my card was at a cooling 42c, never got hot and I found that odd. Well, it turns out it wasn’t using its full capability because of the 12th gen CPU. I upgraded the 13th gen so that I could have 60fps lock and literally unlocked I get like 80fps on the ground and like 122-130 in the air but I lock my sims. If xplane is CPU intensive like past and present sims, your going to have to get the 13gen cpu along with the 4090. It’s like the 13gen was built for the 4090 and future GPU. It’s a powerhouse of a CPU and if I had great FPS with p3d, like no other time in flight sim history, I’m 99.9% sure xplane will run very very good especially since xplane is a newer program and coding than p3d and FSX. On MSFS2020, I did a test. Without AI generation and DX12 activated on fs2020 , regular DX 11 with TAA instead of DLSS 3and everything on Ultra maxed except terrain LOD I set at 300 instead of 400 even AI traffic with planes, airport vehicles, workers etc, I was running a smooth butter 30 fps locked. Now I have it locked at 60 fps and it’s smooth as butter. I also set p3d to 55 fps locked and it’s smooth as butter also. In short, I honestly think the 4090 will do wonders for xplane also but I recommend to get the 13gen cpu with it or if you use AMD, research which is equivalent as I do not know AMD. I recommend locking your fps also as it really really helps. This the is the build that gives me exactly what I want for flight sim and it’s not disappointing at all. Pricey but very very worth it. I won’t have to upgrade anymore for any flight sim payware add on , airports, planes until they make the new Microsoft simulator which will be in like 15-20 years. I only changed the cpu and the card, everything else stayed the same. These are my specs if it helps. 13th Gen i9-13900k Raptor Lake intel Zotac 4090 RTX MSI Z690 Force Wi-Fi Motherboard 1700 socket (same one used for the 12th gen i9-12900k) OLOY DDR5 RAM 32gb Kraken Z73 RGB water cooler Samsung 980 Pro 2tb SSD x 2 1300W Gold PSU Everything on this spec is 9 months old except the CPU and GPU, upgraded from 12th Gen i9-12900k to the 13th and the Zotac 3090 ti to the 4090. Also the 12th gen i9-12900k works very great hand in hand with the 3090ti
@simcptmike Жыл бұрын
@@rockyjetproject1345 this is a super helpful and detailed response. Thank you very much!
@nazradu Жыл бұрын
Not for the price NVIDIA! No matter how many cards you throw at content creators!
@dtrjones Жыл бұрын
Absolutely love the 4090. Ultra settings in my HP Reverb G2 is an absolutel marvel, I don't even use DLSS 3.0 as that's not supported in VR but of course you can still get synthetic frames through MSFS (ugly) and OpenXR reprojection or most probably with whatever VR base software you are using. The 4090 is a beast of a card but expensive for what it is if you don't need the extra performance. My personal view was it was an instant buy and I've absolutely loving my simming right now.
@mikesweeney1827 Жыл бұрын
Wow your great 🥱
@sephiroth4543 Жыл бұрын
Top card, I got a decent deal on mine, I managed to get the MSI Trio 4090 second hand for £1450
@TANGORACING Жыл бұрын
I just installed a RTX 4090 as well, but in MS Flightsim it shows 0 to 1% usage?! CPU is a i7-11700K, so not the slowest too... The monitor shows really high FPS, but the actual picture is stuttering heavily, especially over cities.. Any tipps of how to improve?
@Seussenshmirtz Жыл бұрын
Still rocking the 2070S. Manage to get 60fps in most areas with mostly high graphics. Don't mind one bit
@deltak5457 Жыл бұрын
Same over here with my beloved 2080ti - it's for now just about extra high FPS which might play a role on shooters and VR but on casual flying aircraft on a flat screen? Nah. As long as I can see the same artifacts (ghosting on clouds and stuff) I will not invest into a money burning heating device :) RTX 5k series with some i9 15900k maybe, but until then I'll just look at 3090ti's getting "cheap" at some spot.
@airgus76 Жыл бұрын
Same here, the 4090 costs more than my entire build at the time lol
@jsa2001 Жыл бұрын
What sort of fps would i get using an i5 cpu 32g ram and rtx 3060, if i bought msfs. ive the same setup for x-plane 12 and the fps are atrocious.
@monster21 Жыл бұрын
please what's the locations at 07:00 and 10:45?
@chrishexx3360 Жыл бұрын
I think MSFS is a perfect use case for DLSS3 and it should only get better. Another, possibly better upgrade for it would be a serious improvement for the way it utilises CPU threads. Like you have already said it is seriously limited by CPU factors. It physically can't fully load your graphics card due to being hampered, both CPU and GPU load are less than 50%
@DeepSkySimulations Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this very insightful video. How is your experience at busy airports such as KJFK or EGLL, using third party airport addons, and using FSLTL with, e.g., 100 active IFR aircraft? Will MSI Afterburner with Frame Generation set to ON still show at least 60 FPS (maybe capped through V-Sync at 60 FPS)?
@caribbaviator7058 Жыл бұрын
I bought a 4070. Despite being no where as powerful as the 4090 its is the best investment I have made for this sim along with the 5800X3D! I had an AMD GPU and that was problematic with X-PLANE 12. I'll be sticking with Nvidia moving forward!
@jptoma Жыл бұрын
Finally, it is not only the number of FPS that is important, it is also the micro jerks, that is what bothers me the most. But in order to find the exact causes, it is more difficult. I saw that you also had some. Perhaps the fault of MSFS?
@alexo.3537 Жыл бұрын
I just gave a 4070 a test run and the micro jerks made me return it. I currently run a 1660 Super and it has the same issue but for a $200 card I'll take it any day. Looked up hundreds of forums and never did find any resolution over the few days I had the 4070
@EricTheCleric93 Жыл бұрын
Nvidia is so desperate to sell 4000 series and no one wants them because of the price. It's cool seeing these framerates (although the artifacting is terrible), but please don't buy these cards until they come down in price AND iron out the issues with DLSS 3.
@cmdrls212 Жыл бұрын
4090 is sold out in the US still.
@denziiey Жыл бұрын
Lies bro. Nvidia outselling AMD 7000 series. The RTX4080 is the only one underpeforming in sales. I bought a 4090 and no regrets this thing absolutely is killing MSFS paired with my 5800X3D. Maxed out getting 100+ with Fenix A320. Yeah believe that. Plus on the ground with traffic getting 100 fps in certain airports and 60 in bigger airports with traffic. Yeah I'll gladly pay my money.
@andrenertz1685 Жыл бұрын
the 4090 isnt really the issue in terms of pricing, it is the 4080 and the 4070ti which are overpriced
@Zetler Жыл бұрын
What are you talking about? Simmers are the ones gobbling up these 4090s. This card is realization of a dream. We’re talking about people with $500 HOTAS custom build cockpits. If they can afford it, they don’t flinch. Nobody is out there with a 4090 RTX so he can play Spider-Man at 100 FPS.
@brizzled5193 Жыл бұрын
@@denziiey oh my you went overboard
@manwithanaccent4315 Жыл бұрын
I wasn't going to get the 4090. My system is a year old, all white, stunning looking with a 3090, and cost shy of 8K. BUT ... I had a chance to buy a white 4090 last week and couldn't help myself. I bought one and don't regret it at all. Stupid money for sure, but what can I say.
@markscars1069 Жыл бұрын
I’m looking at changing my 3080 for a 4080 in the summer, but cannot justify the cost of a 4090. I get min 25fps on ultra in 1080p coming over London at 3k feet on final into EGLL. This for me is perfectly acceptable in what is mostly a GA and commercial sim.
@cmdrls212 Жыл бұрын
you'd be crazy to run a 4090 at 1080p. Your uplift will be minimal unless you're pushing ray tracing at crazy high fps (240hz)
@anisdridi2488 Жыл бұрын
Mark, quick question: which CPU do you have? Thanks!! 🙏🏼
@markscars1069 Жыл бұрын
@@anisdridi2488 i7 12700k
@zoe..d Жыл бұрын
Still goes to its knees at KJFK, empty airport. Didn't see any other traffic there during the climb outs with that A320. Is this a reference card / founders edition he has been sent by NVIDIA?
@vraviator Жыл бұрын
PLEASE could you tell us where we can find this HUGE volcanic plateau at 8:15 , also where are you flying at 10:45. we neeeed to know!
@cptairwolf Жыл бұрын
Does nVidia require you to return the card after your video or can you keep it?
@digital_aviator4 ай бұрын
MSFS really hasn't been CPU limited for years, in fact it moved away from being CPU bound back in DTG FSW when they took the FSX code and ported it to 64 bit and made it multi threaded and focused on pushing more onto the GPU. Asobo inhertited DTG's data and all the work they had done in the port and then built further on it for MSFS and replaced a ton of stuff as well.
@jlcmiles Жыл бұрын
I'd love to get the RTX 4090 but I can't find a place to put my desktop PC inside it.
@bryanfripp1253 Жыл бұрын
Just wondering what software you are using to get those distance and ultra smooth videos of your aircraft. like towards the end of this video above ? Thanks.
@FrancescoVenturelli Жыл бұрын
Hi, great content! What place is the "jungle" section?
@ScreamerRSA Жыл бұрын
Did Nvidia with the free 4090 also require you to link to only positive coverage of DLSS 3 and positive 4090 reviews? Feels kinda shilly to me
@archvile1313 Жыл бұрын
A further tip, if your gameplay never goes below 60 fps no matter where or what, then you should set and lock your fps to 60, the flying experience, system load, power consumption, etc... all will work better and efficiently.
@jamesm568 Жыл бұрын
I can tell the difference between 100 frames per second and 60 frames per second. I also prefer that my GPU works at 100% at all times.
@archvile1313 Жыл бұрын
@@jamesm568 What difference is there between 100 and 60
@jamesm568 Жыл бұрын
@@archvile1313 60 FPS is a little jerky as 100 FPS is a whole lot smoother. Depends on the aircraft though. Fast moving aircraft the 60 FPS sucks at low altitude mountain flying.
@archvile1313 Жыл бұрын
@@jamesm568 I hardly notice a difference with what you're telling me but I will see more into it.
@jamesm568 Жыл бұрын
@@archvile1313 IPS or VA panel?
@sneaky_lari6377 Жыл бұрын
07:00 which landscape is it?
@GhostOfLorelei Жыл бұрын
What I‘d really love to see is a set of untitled A/B comparisons, split screen if possible, between varying locations in the sim with DLSS turned on/off. Then let’s see if anyone watching can see a difference. In fairness, since the video is limited to 2k60…it seems unlikely, but you never know… Maybe you could capture the video in 4k120 and upload it somewhere so we can play it locally and see if we can spot the difference?
@E.T.S. Жыл бұрын
Thanks. If it's not a hassle, could you add locations you fly over in the description? Some areas are gorgeous.
@piotrbuda5381 Жыл бұрын
A lot of movies show DLSS 3 and the frame boost it generates. Unfortunately, no one talks about the issues with DX12, DLSS 3, and Nvidia Frame Generation. When using aircraft such as the Fenix A320, PMDG 737, or even the JPLogistic Cessna 152, the scenery textures fall apart, particularly at airports. Fenix's technical support made it clear that they are aware of the issue, but it is due to DX12 (beta) and DLSS 3. I believe they are right about this. Additionally, DLSS 3's sharpness is far from what we get with TAA.
@SimRaceFly80 Жыл бұрын
The adapter cord that came with the Founders card worked fine for you or are you using another adapter?
@ebawebaw Жыл бұрын
I use a 4K Samsung 55 inch tv as monitor, and it has a refresh rate of 60 Hertz a 4 K resolution, so all fps above 60 is actually overkill . I have set VSync on at half refresh rate in the Nvidia panel, and frame generation on in msfs using DLSS3 , so get 60 fps, but more important , my power use of the 4090 drops by a give or take 100 Watts and still get butter smooth flying , temp and % also drops with all settings at ultra
@unclealig Жыл бұрын
whats you pc spec besides of the 4090? whats the best way to minimize the frametime?
@thegreathadoken6808 Жыл бұрын
With the ever-rising cost of energy in the UK, I'm priced out of the higher-end GPUs even before the price of buying the thing comes into the equation. I simply cannot afford to game with high-end gear. I have to go with lower-end or mid-range gear that gets the most bang for it's buck. With that said, DLSS3 looks just the ticket for MSFS, and I'm seriously considering upgrading to maybe a 4060 from my current 3070 (pending reviews and benchmarks of course). I would not especially care if every other game saw very little improvement on a 4060 over my 3070. All I would really care about would be what DLSS3 did for performance in MSFS, both pancake and in VR. If a 4060 or 4060Ti could give me perhaps double the fps in MSFS using DLSS3, and could do it for minimal, if any, extra power draw than my 3070 currently is sucking, then I'm in.
@wile-e-coyote7257 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting! Thanks, ObsidianAnt!
@noneNone-mw1px Жыл бұрын
what is your opinion about this card in regards with higher frame rate (what is the best frame rate for msfx?), speed and quality ???/ does the speed of internet has any affect on it? i wanna use 3 projectors and steam gauges for my flight sim. how many connection it has for different monitors??? please answer my questions because i am going to build a very serious flight simulator. how about i9 core CPU? does it go well with this card? . this card in my country is too expensive 380,00 yen. very very expensive but i also understand nice things cost money.
@lapinobel Жыл бұрын
Crazy performance. On my 13600K + RTX3080 + 32gb DDR runing at 3440x1440 with default "ultra" settings I'm still not getting stable 60fps. Even with fps limited to 50% screen (120hz). On busy areas, still notice some drops and minor stutters. Crazy you have to spend so much money to get stable 60fps.
@JayRacer Жыл бұрын
Did you set your ram frequency?
@kidwave1 Жыл бұрын
Anyone else notice the un-rendered bridges @5:48? ...with cars still traversing it?
@CzlowiekDrzewo Жыл бұрын
I'm on 3080 right now. I think the way things are going, I won't be upgrading my GPU until the 8080 comes out. Sadge.
@GoSolarPlz Жыл бұрын
Will the 4090 be good with a 10700kf processor at 1080p (on 3 monitors)? Z490 mobo. Any issues?
@brokenintel Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video and it convinced me to buy the 4090! I am running on the 5950X and I can delay my CPU upgrade now :D
@nexe7271 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, in VR instruments and screens are much sharper and easier to read in TAA.
@ComdrStew Жыл бұрын
I have the 4080 and I it runs amazing on Ultra graphics in VR. I went from the ASUS ROG STRIX 1080 to a ASUS TUF 4080 and what a huge jump. I'm getting 50-70fps in VR on Ultra settings with DLSS 3. The biggest improvement is in DCS. I was using OpenXR on DCS, but the new update for WMR for SteamVR made it better than OpenXR. Getting 5fps more and better frame timings with SteamVR.
@yobb1n544 Жыл бұрын
I mean you jumped 3 generations, of course it's going to be a huge improvement lol
@ComdrStew Жыл бұрын
@@yobb1n544 Was like when I went from the 460 to the 970, lol.
@yobb1n544 Жыл бұрын
@@ComdrStew yup, 3 generations is a long time in the tech industry 😂 The only thing I hate is the 1080 was $600 and the 4080 is $1200. Even inflation adjusted that's unacceptable on nvidias part.
@ComdrStew Жыл бұрын
@@yobb1n544 I figured the 4080 was going to be around $899. Shocked the shit out of me, lol.
@yobb1n544 Жыл бұрын
@@ComdrStew yup, nvidia 🤬🤬
@Vanya_Ale312 ай бұрын
it really is a spectacle running msfs at ultra graphics smoothly, its just a complete new realistic experience with my upgrade from an rtx 3060 ti to my rtx 4080 super!
@stevenjohnson4122 Жыл бұрын
DLss3 is amazing technology,, I can't wait until AMD frame generation comes out later on to compare technology with DLlS3.
@Technmans Жыл бұрын
Great video, thank you ! Please can you do a test between a 4K screen and a 4K VR headset ? See the difference of framerate would be very interesting !
@HeliShed Жыл бұрын
at........................................... 300W !! Cap it to 30fps - literally just as good. You just don;t need this sort of FPS for MSFS2020.
@Simracing25 Жыл бұрын
how will MSFS work on a triple 1440p Monitors. I have that with a i5 13600k 3080ti 32mb 5200mhz ddr5. thanks as I dont want to buy if it wont be mint
@ShadowAlmighty Жыл бұрын
Two questions: If MSFS is limited by the CPU, does that mean it is limited by the hardware, or is the software itself limited? I've read that MSFS doesn't utilize the CPU very well. Second question, what kind of frame rates can you get with three screens?
@uraymeiviar Жыл бұрын
msfs does not utilize multi core very well, at most it will just one or two cores
@WhiteHawk77 Жыл бұрын
@@uraymeiviar it uses more than two cores but most of the code does go through just two so those end up maxing out and being the limiting factor.
@_pjd Жыл бұрын
How do you get such good telemetry? Fast internet speed?
@06L Жыл бұрын
Little question; Is my internet speed (approx. 93 Mbps/sec) sufficient for a result (visual/fps) similar to yours? THANKS!
@fraserthomson5766 Жыл бұрын
Wondering how much GPU resources are used recording the screen?
@peppercornsauce5067 Жыл бұрын
I do still wish things would be a bit better eg bridges, water levels and such. I know it's asking a lot and i do think the game is beautiful.
@baumstamp5989 Жыл бұрын
the ghosting in "high terrain passing speed" situations (on ground level/ near ground level) is completely inacceptable for me , i have disabled this feature. also with gsync at ~70 fps to me it feels exactly as smooth as when i have ~150fps with framegen enabled. so no benefit but the artifacts as a big drawback. what some have said in the forums is that framegen introduces an input lag. i cannot confirm or deny this. but i guess it has to be tested with a very responsive flight model like the su-31 or the pitts s2s to notice a difference.
@Stouzough Жыл бұрын
Appreciate the feedback. I struggle to understand why we would need 100+ FPS when our displays are limited to 60Hz, but it's good it's kept at a minimum of 60 as you mentioned. Not clear if you're using a 60 or 120Hz monitor. I'm checking whether 4080 to 4070Ti can still maintain this 60 FPS minimum at 4K.
@metalheaddw05 Жыл бұрын
Input lag decreases as the frame rate increases. Even up to 300+ FPS
@Stouzough Жыл бұрын
@@metalheaddw05 Alright, so still useful
@deepsky3001 Жыл бұрын
How is your experience with DLSS 3.0 and moving objects in the Sim, i.e. air traffic, airport vehicles, road traffic, ships? These place a heavy burden on the Sim, but how does the RTX 4090 handle it?
@gabor-toth Жыл бұрын
As an Xbox player, I'm envious about such a smooth framerate, but only until I think about the completely outlandish price tag on these PCs as well as the high power consumption. 30 fps in MSFS on Xbox might be jerky and low, but I hope the next Xbox will be able to run it at 60 fps with similarly affordable price and economical operation.
@stevekennedy9102 Жыл бұрын
Would LOVE to know how your 4090 rig holds up in ED: Odyssey as it's so demanding/poorly optimised. DO ONE OF THOSE VIDS PLEASE!
@lukaniek19929 ай бұрын
What is name this program to monitoring PC utilization?
@gadDenmark Жыл бұрын
All in all it's really not our graphic cards that is at fault. ASOBO needs to focus their energy optimizing the sim. It has gotten worse, and the LOD is disgustingly short. It looks terrible.
@yan71ck8 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this beautiful video, as allways. Are performances also better when using VR ?
@4secsharkmr352 Жыл бұрын
Hi, yep the 4090 shines at higher resolution like in VR. I get 2x FPS in VR in comparison to my old 3090
@xviconner Жыл бұрын
I have a 4070ti and its great with VR in the PMDG 737-800. if you don't wanna go blow 2,000 on a card lol.
@imjashingyou3461 Жыл бұрын
I dont get the point of this. The best part of high frame rates isn't the visuals. But control latency, physics calculations, etc. This doesn't improve any of the that and 75fps is already smooth motion if the frame pacing is consistent. Also I notice the ghosting immediately. It's really obvious because it looks like flickering in your video.
@imad1996 Жыл бұрын
I have 4090 and use Dlss 3 and frame generation to achieve around 70fps on ultra 4k. Today I disabled frame generation, and the quality was excellent. My conclusion is DLSS 3 is more quantity than quality. In red dead redemption, it gives better improvements and performance compared to msfs. The reviewer is saying astonishing quality because he got a free unit 😂
@jamesm568 Жыл бұрын
The thing I found that helps the most is turn that lens flare BS off. I'm looking at a 4090 myself, but I want the best 4090 money can buy though.
@N7Trekkie Жыл бұрын
If nvidia sends you a 4090 for a 15 minute video, I hope they keep it up. Good for you, congrats.
@fungiplays2289 Жыл бұрын
What sort of cooling are you running to keep the 4090 from throttling down due to heat buildup? I just got a 3080ti and it's a pretty toasty beast even under minimal load
@cmdrls212 Жыл бұрын
that looks like an FE card so I assume it is whatever the FE card has. There is a water cooled model from MSI if you can find it in stock.
@timrashleigh2984 Жыл бұрын
The cooling in the 4000 series is far superior to the 3000 series. The 4000 run a lot cooler due to this than the 3000 series
@Steve-tf1wv Жыл бұрын
The cooling is overkill on the new nVIDIA cards. And, the chip is manufactured with a more efficient process. My 4080 runs cooler and uses less power than my old 3080 did, for example.
@fungiplays2289 Жыл бұрын
@@timrashleigh2984 Too bad I didn't wait to get one from the new series
@cmdrls212 Жыл бұрын
@@Steve-tf1wv chip process is NOT the only one part related to thermals. More key is the total wattage that you're pumping into the card that has to be dissipated. You can have a 6nm chip that you pump 600w into that it will run hotter and need beefier cooler than a 32nm chip that you only pump 100w into. Just the laws of physics. The RTX can really heat up when you pump the near 600w so the coolers are made to dissipate a lot more heat for even the more efficient transitors and process can't compensate when you're pushing that much power into such a small die.
@Anachroschism Жыл бұрын
You'll need a better CPU to fully utilise that 4090. There's no current gen CPU that doesn't bottleneck that GC.
@MikoMuru Жыл бұрын
Theres something wrong with the optimization on msfs atm. The 4090 only gets 30% usage. I get almost double the frames in other games compared to my old 3090 ti but only less than 10% on the 4090
@uraymeiviar Жыл бұрын
MSFS is CPU limited, u need to use Ryzen 7000 with 4090 to enjoy the potensial
@metalheaddw05 Жыл бұрын
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@Culky Жыл бұрын
Now if us plebs could get our hands on 4090s without having to pay crazy gouged prices, that would be great
@farrakhanbogle-assegai5351 Жыл бұрын
How’s it better than Flight Simulator on XboX X? Graphics wise
@PeterPetermann Жыл бұрын
i so wish flight simulator would have proper vr menus and all that
@mikeydude750 Жыл бұрын
I just got my 4090 this weekend, I have to give it a try in FS still
@ianrivaldosmith Жыл бұрын
You don’t have to use DLSS to get frame generation, you can turn it on without DLSS. I use TAA with frame generation to get a better picture.
@LieorDie24 Жыл бұрын
How do you get 150 fps thats not possible i have a 4090 and a 9500 x12 Ryzen and i get 50 fps with everything on high to low only Fstl with 30 traffic is set in game only building szenery out of coclpit is on ultra objects on 100 terain lod 150 and still 50 fps what else must i buy to have a stable simulator im so fed up now
@operatormadness11 ай бұрын
for some reason i dont have some of the options in my settings like DLSS or DirectX.
@balubalua2522 Жыл бұрын
Hi there:) how can i Turned off the "frame rate limit"?
@daxconnell7661 Жыл бұрын
i run a 2080 gtx, ryzen 5 5600x, 32 gigs 3200 ram. i was able to go from low to medium settings just by switching from a mechanical to ssd hard drive
@dmor6696 Жыл бұрын
i have a pretty decent graphic card, and i can play this game with the settings at 70% in general while in game (not the best, not the worst), but the menu is a disaster, for some reason, the menu lags somewhat and my mouse not always responds to the commands. i wonder what is the point of using a heavy menu layout in an already very heavy game.. nice bouncing mountains by the way
@davincifpv3983 Жыл бұрын
Which location is that at 8:28 please?
@haydn.oneill Жыл бұрын
I only get 75-90fps over NY with DLSS 3 4k on a 4090 and 13900K, how are you achieving these numbers? 😊
@MillzSkratchesTv Жыл бұрын
On what monitor?
@haydn.oneill Жыл бұрын
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@vzahradnik Жыл бұрын
would rtx 4080 with dlss3 be enough for MSFS2020 on 4K?
@N7Trekkie Жыл бұрын
yes
@Stouzough Жыл бұрын
Enough yes, but are we 100% it will never go below 60 FPS? That's my question... However, as many people mention here, you can be perfectly happy at 30 FPS, depends on your perception
@Sataniceasterbunny Жыл бұрын
1:50 the building is too close i think 1:53 yep!too close 1:54 omg...short video 1:55 lucky bastard :P
@jamesrothwell8693 Жыл бұрын
I don't even get the option of DLSS despite having a 4090, it was there with my 3090 but not anymore.
@jmd1743 Жыл бұрын
I just wish Nvidia would sell 4090 FEs directly from their website. I was previously using a gtx 1080 seahawk which is a GPU that comes with a waterblock from the factor, I lost that GPU due to a power surge, but when I used the GPU my rackmounted case would barely close it's lid as in it buldges where the inlet/outlet of the waterblock is. I found a waterblock that moves the inlet/outlet ports to the rear of the GPU. What I'm using is a rackmounted case, and I'm currently u R7800 GPU that's 10 years of age with a 9900k. I wish Nvidia would sell FE 4090s directly off their website for MSRP.. I want to upgrade to a 40inch ultrawide 5K by 2k monitor for stock trading from a Chinese brand 1080p 27inch TV. I own guns and there was a time where I couldn't get ammo without paying through the nose to scalpers for 5 years at one time. I refused to award the ammo scalpers and I also refuse to award the GPU scalpers.
@boborbob7579 Жыл бұрын
If you only play in vr and the money the 4090 is a must, I only bought msfs after getting mine
@thesolitaryowl Жыл бұрын
What world location is shown at 7:05?
@davidw.2467 Жыл бұрын
Frame generation is not really a new technology, mpeg video compression uses it too (the I, P, and B frames), but it is clever for Nvidia to adopt this technology in GPUs.
@Senseimatty81 Жыл бұрын
How does it behave in VR without DLSS3?
@martinhsl68hw Жыл бұрын
It doesn't yet! They haven't got it working :)
@peppercornsauce5067 Жыл бұрын
Phew , bit close to that tower for comfort.
@mannyrivera6990 Жыл бұрын
How about an upgrade program Nvidia, EVGA, Asus. Stilll running a 2080ti prices are ridiculous to afford any new cards !!!
@Cartoonman154 Жыл бұрын
EVGA has pulled out of the graphics card market because of NVIDIA's behaviour.
@aavvv_ Жыл бұрын
Awfully tempting until I look at the prices again lol
@simcptmike Жыл бұрын
It's crazy to see even with that card you can catch stutters.
@tenchudjmusic Жыл бұрын
microsoft's software quality is really bad these days. There seems to be lot's of blocking goin' on in their multithreading code.
@brunogt1982 Жыл бұрын
Is Microsoft Flight Simulator support Ray Tracing now?