What happens when you try to UPGRADE an M1 MacBook to M2?

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Luke Miani

Luke Miani

Жыл бұрын

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Many have bemoaned Apple's lack of updates to the M2 MacBook Pro, but it got me wondering... If nothing has changed with the chassis of the M2 MacBook Pro vs M1 MacBook Pro, can you swap the logic boards and upgrade an M1 Mac to an M2 MacBook? Well wonder no more! Because today I'm going to answer this silly and pointless question that nobody asked. I will boldly go where no tech KZbinr dared (or cared) to go. Behold, this video.
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@noahrosenheck9250
@noahrosenheck9250 Жыл бұрын
next test: swap the logic boards for two identical m1's and two identical m2's (m1 to m1 and m2 to m2). see if there are hardware locks on the other components
@user_ao625
@user_ao625 Жыл бұрын
Was just going to suggest that.👍
@Xaltar_
@Xaltar_ Жыл бұрын
I am pretty much 100% there will be lockouts.
@ultrasoundconcept
@ultrasoundconcept Жыл бұрын
That'd be nice to see.
@Miguel-fm8xh
@Miguel-fm8xh Жыл бұрын
There are two actually. 1. TouchID 2. TrueTone
@arturoehr
@arturoehr Жыл бұрын
@@Miguel-fm8xh didn’t know they had software locks just like iPhones
@chinamobilemag
@chinamobilemag Жыл бұрын
The M2 changed the way keyboard and trackpad are connected (used to be SPI on the M1). Most likely this is the reason it refuses to boot up in the M1 chassis.
@kuroyukihime1
@kuroyukihime1 Жыл бұрын
This is fake
@cristibaluta
@cristibaluta Жыл бұрын
Wouldn't make sense to continue to boot? You can use an external keyboard
@chinamobilemag
@chinamobilemag Жыл бұрын
@@cristibaluta Luke broke something else apparently. iFixit did try the same and they managed to get the M2 logic board booting inside the M1 chassis. Trackpad and Keyboard did not work, of course.
@BilisNegra
@BilisNegra Жыл бұрын
@@chinamobilemag Broke what? The two machines are OK again after being reassembled with their proper boards.
@user-xr5vr2uq6v
@user-xr5vr2uq6v Жыл бұрын
@@BilisNegra When I took my Intel MBP apart it wouldn't boot without the bottom case screws in. I know, weirdest thing, but it's true. Bottom case on without screws, wouldn't boot. Put screws in, everything works just fine.
@thomaschirila6372
@thomaschirila6372 Жыл бұрын
To anyone who doesn't know: ZIF = zero insertion force. This means that the connector doesn't need to be forced into the slot at all to be seated. These are usually accompanied by some sort of lever to clip down onto the ribbon cable.
@GabrielSouza-pb9lt
@GabrielSouza-pb9lt 7 ай бұрын
Like AMD processors or old laptops, or epromm flashing devices
@garycard1826
@garycard1826 Жыл бұрын
Luke, as an Electronics Engineer (who has performed many maintenance tasks and upgrades on computers over the years) I have to say, you’re crazy; but in a good way! Great video, I hope you get lots of hits for your considerable efforts.
@arifuddin2172
@arifuddin2172 Жыл бұрын
Yep
@NicVandEmZ
@NicVandEmZ Жыл бұрын
It’s track pad at fault here m2 trackpad is different than m1 trackpad keyboard is still same try this again and just swap the trackpad
@Qwerty8
@Qwerty8 17 күн бұрын
No, because it’s not a new MacBook with m cpu - he opened old ones and no one saw it? How about the pro people around? 😂🎉🎉
@TheSleepyCraftsman
@TheSleepyCraftsman Жыл бұрын
Oh, let's see how hard Apple made this. 😏🍿
@TheSleepyCraftsman
@TheSleepyCraftsman Жыл бұрын
Seems like Apple is really going out of their way to prevent anyone from using broken machines for spare parts.
@user-cp4cj1nu9c
@user-cp4cj1nu9c Жыл бұрын
guess this is the most upgrade part on new MacBook Pro
@allthenamesrtook
@allthenamesrtook Жыл бұрын
Senior systems analyst here, although I haven't looked at the specifics of the two devices relating to this, this is almost certainly going to be a battery related issue. Both of these motherboards will be expecting to be connected to a specific battery size and voltage that almost certainly differs between the two models. While they can in theory boot up with either battery, Apple will have most likely locked the power requirement to be within a very specific range and as such anything out of that will not power up.
@arctan2010
@arctan2010 Жыл бұрын
I see the problem: the case color doesn’t match making them incompatible!🤓
@Megabean
@Megabean Жыл бұрын
I just imagined an alternative universe where Apple offered upgrades, like say you can get your M1 Macbook upgraded to M2 for 500$ but when they introduce major feature revisions you have to do the full upgrade. Because as it stands most people will keep their Mac through maybe 2-4 model iterations before upgrading. The old boards could be refurbished or put into repaired laptops. That could actually be a way to capture a bit of revenue from users who won't spend 1200$+ for the next version. It's a win win
@austin2150
@austin2150 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely a good idea
@maharaj8460
@maharaj8460 Жыл бұрын
Who cares, just stop buying apple products and buy company's which does offer upgrades
@Megabean
@Megabean Жыл бұрын
@@maharaj8460 How about we not be fascists who tell other people what to do. ^_^
@Sharan25
@Sharan25 Жыл бұрын
The ram is already soldered to board so why not allow to upgrade the cpu and the ram
@stever1514
@stever1514 Жыл бұрын
Processor upgrades like that existed in the PowerPC era but they were never that profitable even for 3rd parties that offered them. A couple of companies went out of business and Sonnet just barely hung on.
@dougienuggie
@dougienuggie Жыл бұрын
I feel like Luke has gotten much more comfortable with being on camera over the years. i see much more of his personality in this video than I would have seen in a video from three years ago. i love watching the channel grow :)
@halami2149
@halami2149 Жыл бұрын
Why because he cursed in the middle lol
@MarcusExplainsStuff
@MarcusExplainsStuff Жыл бұрын
This video was awesome. I loved the energy and genuine shock when the M2 board didn't boot. There are a few minor component differences and I am sure it was something with initial BIOS load validation or some such nonsense. Either way, extremely entertaining, cheers.
@samgod
@samgod Жыл бұрын
BIOS is specific to non-Apple Intel computers. Macs, including Intel Macs, have never used BIOS.
@CED.Dweller
@CED.Dweller Жыл бұрын
The editing is getting stronger and stronger with each new video lately. Nice work,@Luke Miani!
@scogginsscoggins
@scogginsscoggins 17 күн бұрын
Great video. Luke always has original ideas. Never boring.
@LKBRICKS1993
@LKBRICKS1993 Жыл бұрын
Great video so interesting and fun to watch. I remember old laptops when you could replace almost everything.
@harshkalbhor4653
@harshkalbhor4653 Жыл бұрын
U can also do that now just not with apple things cuz u know
@sanskarbiswal5234
@sanskarbiswal5234 Жыл бұрын
One possible cause may be that the displays might need different firmware drivers and when you swap out the boards, it is likely that the boards detect an incorrect hardware conf for which it has no firmware and fails to boot
@mathiasfantoni2458
@mathiasfantoni2458 Жыл бұрын
4:55 You really had me crying out loud there! 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
@IBaitman
@IBaitman Жыл бұрын
Did you place the screws back in before booting? Cause some laptops use screws to complete the circuits in logic board. Also other companies make sure their logic board works only with the original chassis. How? idk. I could very easily find out if i had such devices to play around with and time. I completely love disassembling laptops much more than desktops. Great work.
@danandrei96
@danandrei96 Жыл бұрын
that's really weird. I haven't gotten my hands on any m2 machines yet but with the m1 you can get a bare logic board to boot with nothing but the charger plugged in (you can confirm it booted based on the current draw using a usb-c power meter). So you could've started disconnecting things from the board until it would boot. I agree it's most likely the keyboard/trackpad that was the issue, although I also wouldn't be surprised if they did something funny with the battery. Fantastic video and great idea overall, would love a follow-up where you try to find out the culprit
@ThatOneGuyGreggers
@ThatOneGuyGreggers Жыл бұрын
on iPhones they do tie the battery to the logic board with a battery serial number. if you don't go through an authorized apple repair you would loose the battery health monitoring features. Probably something similar.
@danandrei96
@danandrei96 Жыл бұрын
@@ThatOneGuyGreggers thankfully so far I haven't seen any issues with battery replacement even on newer macbooks. my theory was more that they might've made some small unnecessary change to the battery and therefore given it a new part number, which the other board won't recognize and will therefore refuse to boot. Either way, I wouldn't be too surprised if it's just more Apple serialization BS as usual
@imdyinginside1919
@imdyinginside1919 Жыл бұрын
@@ThatOneGuyGreggers u can program it but the message still on i think
@blackwolfmclovin
@blackwolfmclovin Жыл бұрын
Maybe voltage and ampere of the battery are different. Or the capacitors are different. The M2 has a slightly higher watt consumption with consistent battery lifetime to the m1
@j.j.5368
@j.j.5368 Жыл бұрын
Luke where do you get this musics? I love the way that you make your videos, so great!
@robertdonlan8193
@robertdonlan8193 8 ай бұрын
Need to change the track pad also I have actually had a few m2 with bad touchbar. M2 topcase is too expensive, so used topcase from iCloud locked m1 found that trackpad and Touch ID both need to be changed to make this work Screen is also interchangeable may loose ambient light sensor
@geekjit215
@geekjit215 Жыл бұрын
Could it be the display's plug pinouts are different which somehow causes a short and prevents the machine to power on?
@DarylMartijnVanBeek
@DarylMartijnVanBeek Жыл бұрын
There is probably some additional hardware that prevents you from swapping it over, hardware lock/ hardware paring to the mother board so it doesn’t recognize all the connected components not letting it start up or PSU isnt compatible since the m2 takes more power
@Megabean
@Megabean Жыл бұрын
I'm not 100% sure but I think it could either be what he said, their protocol for the upper case has changed thus the keyboard doesn't work or it could be that the Touch Bar which runs its own IOS fork could have some hardware DRM preventing it from being replaced. What I would try if I were Luke, pair an Apple keyboard to the Macbook then try to switch them, in theory, it should just turn on even if the Macbook keyboard doesn't work.
@RobStevens64
@RobStevens64 Жыл бұрын
I think the last one is the issue. The M2 requires a bit more power, and it could be the battery config or other related stuff just isn't delivering enough to the board. One thing Luke didn't try was getting the M1 to power up in the M2 chassis. That might have indicated if it were power delivery issues.
@MrBaskins2010
@MrBaskins2010 Жыл бұрын
that motor roaring when you said shut up at 5mins in, perfecto.
@davidsmall1174
@davidsmall1174 9 ай бұрын
What this could be useful for is when the M3 MBA13 comes out in October of this year but the 15 inch doesn't come out for another 1 months after that, then a M3 MBA 13 logic board swap into an existing M2 MBA 15 would be a real treat?
@edborowski5950
@edborowski5950 Жыл бұрын
Loved the video Luke! It felt different than the normal video out there and I really enjoyed it.
@michaelbuck8884
@michaelbuck8884 Жыл бұрын
It’s confusing yes but at the same time it’s a simple answer. Apple made their boards to only work with the certain chasis. They did this on purpose just like their phones. This is another example of Apple not accepting right to repair.
@Jake-ix1od
@Jake-ix1od Жыл бұрын
I used to work at a UBreakiFix. Every damaged apple device we’ve received, during my presence at least; were brought in due owner neglect and/or the user consecutively depleting the battery to 0% between charge cycles. Withholding battery replacements, I think right to repair is becoming blown out of proportion, maybe even to a Marxist degree. I’ve made an iPhone 6s last for nearly 4 years without it needing repairs. I brought it to Apple for a battery replacement and the tech was shocked by its near mint condition, telling me “we don’t get devices like this.” BUT STILL, God forbid a little personal responsibility…
@dregenius
@dregenius Жыл бұрын
Right.... in the same way that Intel doesn't accept right to repair because they changed the socket on their 12th gen. I'm not saying Apple loves right to repair... but being able to swap major components from a significantly changed or revised version of a product, that happens to be in the same model line, into an older one is *not* an indication of such, it just isn't.
@Jake-ix1od
@Jake-ix1od Жыл бұрын
@@dregenius Socket types will evolve, for example; due to the differing GPIO layout of the next generation chip. And assuming, you're referring to desktop chips, those are typically user accessible. I don't think succeeding intel socket types are a good example of undermining right to repair.
@prayagsuthar9856
@prayagsuthar9856 Жыл бұрын
​@@Jake-ix1od Yay, a new perspective! 👏🏼 I still wish that they would at least let people do something as simple as _upgrading RAM/storage_ on a whole chonkin' laptop, but that's the limit. Hearing your statement, I do agree that sometimes Right to Repair is exaggerated by a lot of people, to the point that it's become a mere buzzword 😓
@Jake-ix1od
@Jake-ix1od Жыл бұрын
​@@prayagsuthar9856 Apple plays to their benefit here; Integrating everything reduces manufacturing costs and they'd rather get the money first hand for increased ram/storage. I don't think this approach is that unreasonable. 30 years ago, computers in general were atrociously more expensive when considering inflation. Despite those early computers typically being user upgradable and easily repairable, I don't think they usually reached a level of reliability or a useful life expectancy anywhere near that of what our modern computers can reach. Apple clearly isn't concerned with providing us the capability to increase the usefulness of their machines down the road. However I do think Apple is concerned with providing us long term reliability. That said; just because a computer is reliable doesn't mean it's useful, but at least it wasn't designed to fail. I'm willing to be wrong but that's how I think I understand this shit so far.
@rushil.karani
@rushil.karani Жыл бұрын
That was a very cool explaination!
@morgan0
@morgan0 Жыл бұрын
i wonder if it’s possible to replace soldered on components in the last few intel macs with components that were offered, like switching from 4GB vram to 8GB, or a different gpu model that was used, etc. would it recognize it and work or are they hardwired to a particular configuration. and what about interface compatible but out of the offered range parts, like 16GB vram or a different cpu generation
@respect386
@respect386 Жыл бұрын
Luke is so thorough, so much respect for the effort he puts into his videos!
@magicmanchloe
@magicmanchloe Жыл бұрын
Try swapping the battery’s as well. Apple serialized the batteries in their phones. It probably won’t work without the proper battery. Test it by unplugging the battery and connecting power to see if it turns on.
@alexanderlozanov2271
@alexanderlozanov2271 Жыл бұрын
I believe it will be more interesting to see and to try, if it's possible to upgrade the logic board from Intel to M1 or M2
@oberon2230
@oberon2230 Жыл бұрын
The M series as well as iOS Devices are serialized, meaning there is a gatekeeper within the computer that is loaded with a random group of serials, if one is missing and a new one is installed, it won't work. Same as what happened to the iphone. it's Software related. There is a dedicated chip for this.
@BackpackandGear
@BackpackandGear Жыл бұрын
It looks like Apple has gone to tremendous lengths to make sure people can't just swap parts in these computers making people have to buy a new machine if a part fails or to have Apple fix it for a charge if out of warranty!
@imho4990
@imho4990 Жыл бұрын
Your problem is, you want the thief to have your hardware. Now it doesn't make sense to steal a Mac or iPhone. Even to replace parts and that is great news.
@Easyjt
@Easyjt Жыл бұрын
Did you test if the M1 would work in the M2 case? Wondering if it is a power delivery issue due to M2 using more power than the M1.
@yeetusdesastroesus
@yeetusdesastroesus Жыл бұрын
All of the power delivery stuff is on the board, so probably not.
@khangvinh4656
@khangvinh4656 Жыл бұрын
Well, ifixit found out that removing the trackpad basically lock the laptop so I don’t think swapping motherboards would be any more kind.
@artisanwolf2068
@artisanwolf2068 Жыл бұрын
It's either a hardware lock or a power issue. The power consumption between the M1 and M2 chips are different so the batteries are going to be designed differently to handle the different loads. It would be interesting to see if that is actually the case
@JACB006
@JACB006 Жыл бұрын
Luke .. great Video. Having read all the suggestions below …. Is it worth having another go?
@bmrpeal
@bmrpeal Жыл бұрын
You need to swipe the T2 chip, which stores the unique signature of the whole system in the "secure enclave", not the touch id button alone.
@johnlowellbejasa6510
@johnlowellbejasa6510 10 ай бұрын
there is no more T2 chips in Apple Silicon macs, the secure enclave is now built into the M2/M1 chip itself
@rickyandika718
@rickyandika718 Жыл бұрын
Would be more interesting if we could use 2018 chasis and screen on m1/m2. Would be a huge upgrade
@3ijnweu3oq3
@3ijnweu3oq3 Жыл бұрын
it would more so be possible to do a m1 or m2 version to a 16 2019.
@matejaem
@matejaem Жыл бұрын
@@3ijnweu3oq3 What would you do with the extra fans & ports?
@3ijnweu3oq3
@3ijnweu3oq3 Жыл бұрын
@@matejaem no clue but the screen, keyboard and trackpad would most likely work considering they have the same connector
@Cuber112
@Cuber112 Жыл бұрын
Sounds possible until you realize there's no replaceable escape key
@3ijnweu3oq3
@3ijnweu3oq3 Жыл бұрын
​@@mp3playerrr no source im pretty sure though, as i seen a 15 inch 2017 screen being connected to a 13 inch 2016 screen and it scaled just fine so theres a chance it could work
@RederieJosh
@RederieJosh Жыл бұрын
It’s funny how Luke is being a little more sassy than ever 🤣
@kantdiego
@kantdiego Жыл бұрын
The display connections likely. I had the beautiful surprise with MBP11,3 display with MBP11,5 board
@TechTipsUSA
@TechTipsUSA Жыл бұрын
Next video: making a m2 12 inch MacBook!
@markhigginson9897
@markhigginson9897 Жыл бұрын
It may be that some of the connection points have different pin configurations from the M1 unit to the M2 unit. It would only need to take a few differences to prevent the M2 logic board from working in the M1 unit. Also additionally, the bios microcode might not allow such a change.
@japanquakeytp
@japanquakeytp Жыл бұрын
macs dont use bios, its the fact that its a different screen, trackpad, whatever assembly that stopped it. its called part out protection so no one, even if they have the mac, they cant steal your data.
@CaspianYuichiro
@CaspianYuichiro Жыл бұрын
Mutiple componets have their own ids, and i believe the massive amounts of differnt ids may have prevented it from booting too. (Display id, battery, etc.)
@davidbillberg2203
@davidbillberg2203 Жыл бұрын
Luke always does some cool and weird stuff!
@shellcode
@shellcode Жыл бұрын
I’m surprised it didn’t work considering that nearly the entire computer is on that logic board. Also if Apple were to offer an “upgrade” logic board it would still be very expensive since all of the core components are within that single board. It’s more like replacing the computer than “upgrading”.
@casimir976
@casimir976 Жыл бұрын
I always have this idea of swapping apple silicon internal into a prior gen MacBook Pro frame (specifically the 15”). I liked the design and I think it’s an irony that apple decided to drop the design (except the touch bar) when they finally have the hardware that can finally work in the thin tapered design.
@3ijnweu3oq3
@3ijnweu3oq3 Жыл бұрын
most likely possible with the m1 with the 16 2019
@casimir976
@casimir976 Жыл бұрын
@Luke Miami and while we’re at it, could you maybe try this with the MBP 15”? 😅jk
@casimir976
@casimir976 Жыл бұрын
@@3ijnweu3oq3 only problem is 2021 16” deeper than the 2019, while the 2019 is wider than the 2021.
@3ijnweu3oq3
@3ijnweu3oq3 Жыл бұрын
@@casimir976 most likely 16 inch would work, since the keyboard seems the same with the escape key, touch bar aswell, even the touch id cut out is the same only issue would the cable is too short so you cannot connect it without microsoldering and there is a chance the screen would work too
@FF9F00
@FF9F00 Жыл бұрын
2021 MacBook Pros are kind of ugly imo. But I think they're doing this on purpouse in order to make us buy a new laptop whenever they go back to the older, actually good design.
@corrientetv
@corrientetv Жыл бұрын
Great video! And fun to watch
@cupcakke.wet.ch0chie
@cupcakke.wet.ch0chie Жыл бұрын
You can also try to swap the charing port and battery because the charing ports voltages I think are different and the m2 battery is also different so try this
@LeeStewart
@LeeStewart Жыл бұрын
Finally a girlfriend appears from the cracks in the walls! The 'Luke Miani is probably gay' rumours are finally over. Love your videos Luke! 👍
@guilhermecervo3931
@guilhermecervo3931 Жыл бұрын
Ex-Genius here. 1. The screw you removed from the heat sink we call it "super screw" 2. The swap didn't work because you don't have access to System Configurator (not to be confused with Apple Configurator). System Configurator is only available through AST2 and must be run on all post 2018 macs that had the MLB replaced.
@lonnygallant827
@lonnygallant827 Жыл бұрын
No T2 chip on M1 or M2
@Wilbur-em1hw
@Wilbur-em1hw Жыл бұрын
Wait. So you are no longer a Genius. How does that work??. Like how do you go from Genius to dumb??
@guilhermecervo3931
@guilhermecervo3931 Жыл бұрын
@@lonnygallant827 Thanks for the correction. I meant to say all post 2018 macs
@guilhermecervo3931
@guilhermecervo3931 Жыл бұрын
@@Wilbur-em1hw Hahahahaha
@RedVRCC
@RedVRCC 8 күн бұрын
So this actually could have worked if it wasn't for Apple's dickheadery in allowing user upgradability?
@SaltedCoffee400
@SaltedCoffee400 Жыл бұрын
This the type of content I subscribed for.
@beckamsalvatore1422
@beckamsalvatore1422 Жыл бұрын
I absolutely love Luke Miani humour
@ucanthavemyname9802
@ucanthavemyname9802 Жыл бұрын
There are a few parts I may guess could be the culprit: screen, battery, keyboard, trackpad, maybe even the WiFi connection via the cables. I recently swapped the motherboards of two old Dell laptops for fun and it refused to display an image because of the screen. The issue was I had to fully drain the CMOS battery and then it would boot. I have no doubt Apple found any way possible to lock down the MacBooks from being upgraded/repaired.
@japanquakeytp
@japanquakeytp Жыл бұрын
this isnt for apples gain, its called part out protection.
@qellman
@qellman Жыл бұрын
The "Power-up" problem could have been then Touch Bar, since the touch bar logic is an iPhone processor that also controls Security of the MacBook Pro. Not sure...
@scottstreet5796
@scottstreet5796 Жыл бұрын
Seems a long shot, but...is there a difference between the batteries that power management might be detecting?
@user-jf4dt8fg4w
@user-jf4dt8fg4w Жыл бұрын
I was thinking that Luke is going to swap the SoC between the two, and wondered when did Luke start to do BGA stuff.
@ambhaiji
@ambhaiji Жыл бұрын
Please do the framework laptop upgrade just to show how easy it is possible for companies to actually make swappable boards.
@Nathan-jk4nr
@Nathan-jk4nr Жыл бұрын
Good idea
@DMonZ1988
@DMonZ1988 Жыл бұрын
@4:57 i don't think its a stupid experiment at all! it'd be nice if someone with a dead M1 could buy spare parts for an M2 down the line and effectively upgrade. or M2s with broken screens/bent chassis like some animals apparently manage to create, get transplanted into eventually less desirable M1s. so, lets see if its possible. do continue...
@FlannelAficionado
@FlannelAficionado Жыл бұрын
I would almost entirely wager this is based on keyboard/trackpad if either of those are different. Signals for power on/power off can come from either of these and if pin outs on the connectors, or the signal voltages differ on those lines, or communication protocols are different, I would absolutely expect this sort of behavior. I LOVE these kind of expiriments. And even if it doesn't sound relevant now, I know in a year or so it might be, once the used market is a bit more saturated. I would be more likely to wonder if the opposite is true (M1 board in the M2 chassis).
@zensonize
@zensonize Жыл бұрын
Random thought, i once remove my mbp logic board to repaste the cpu after assembly the device didn't boot up until I connected the power cable. I didn't see you connect power cable after doing logic board swap. Don't know is that the case?
@baconfister
@baconfister Жыл бұрын
Luke seems more animated than usual in this video. I can only come to the conclusion he was hitting his sponsor’s sauce before recording. 🍸
@johnmeyer457
@johnmeyer457 Жыл бұрын
Me suffering and worrying for fear of breaking the RAM clips in my dad’s 2011 ASUS and this guy opening and playing around with two laptops worth several thousands each 😂
@yagoa
@yagoa Жыл бұрын
Interesting, checking some voltages on the board would have made this more informative :)
@ruslanmalakhovskiy2113
@ruslanmalakhovskiy2113 Жыл бұрын
There's also a slight possibility that the pin configuration on the battery connector is a bit different, but I might be wrong
@calculator2020
@calculator2020 Жыл бұрын
For someone with a repair shop I think its a great video. Customers do usually have some crazy requests
@Darthwriter
@Darthwriter Жыл бұрын
I'm honestly not sure why you thought this would work. I would assume Apple links most of the hardware at the most base level. Also, it is possible that there is just one little chip in the screen assembly or keyboard/trackpad or even the speakers that Apple somehow checks on boot or power and won't boot without "Seeing" said chip. But I appreciate your devotion to the attempt. Went above and beyond for sure.
@EvilTurkeySlices
@EvilTurkeySlices Жыл бұрын
Because it worked with older MacBooks. You could put a 2012 MacBook Pro logic board into the 2011 model.
@vijay058
@vijay058 Жыл бұрын
Hi I own Mac book pro 13. I just a year old. Unfortunately mother board is not working Apple technician mentioned need to replace entire mother board. But he did mentioned data back up not possible. Is there any way for data back up?
@jockosboy17
@jockosboy17 Жыл бұрын
Isn't every component on a modern Mac serialized? My guess the board detected that the generations were not matching up.
@raduciopraga2752
@raduciopraga2752 Жыл бұрын
I'm curious if you can add another 256 Gb module in the empty space and upgrade it to a 512 Gb. Would it be possible? maybe get it from another dead MacBook Pro.
@W1ldTangent
@W1ldTangent Жыл бұрын
Would run into the same problem various experimenters did with trying to swap the flash chip modules on the Mac Studio. Without reprogramming the controller itself with the parameters of the new storage layout, it will not function at all, or at best you'd still only be access the original amount of flash.
@HearMeLearn
@HearMeLearn Жыл бұрын
clearly the different screws are incompatible. Okay but actually maybe the SoCs check the other components connected to it, and if a certain one or maybe too many are different, it won't boot?
@jameysummers1577
@jameysummers1577 11 ай бұрын
Yeah...The gates love to come off of those zif connectors. I use a spudger like that, but I also put my finger over the gate so it doesn't pop off. When they pop off I hate soldering another on. Getting that gate back on is a pain in the ass.
@jessixox
@jessixox Жыл бұрын
Fyi there could be a voltage difference between the circuits in the m2 chip that could require either less or more power. The total reason could be the supply of voltage going to the main power board causing a voltage miscommunication that interferes with initializing the new m2 board. In addition there would be several components that are not compatible with the board just like any other laptop. Yes it may be apple but they want you to buy a new laptop instead of fixing your broken or current one. Usually when the system boots it does a system check to see if any components are compromised then boots once validation is complete. But if you didnt here the fans spin on startup thats because there is a voltage issue.
@fyremoon
@fyremoon Жыл бұрын
You have to consider which devices are security locked. I know on iPhones, that means the camera is locked to the motherboard so swapping the camera stops features from working for security reasons, so if its the same in the MacBook, then changing the touch ID and motherboard won't work, you'd have to extract the camera module and swap them over too. A bit like those people that swapped their Mac Studio modules and wondered why the Studio wouldn't boot.
@TheThomasproctor
@TheThomasproctor Жыл бұрын
I can tell you right now it’s not for security reasons, it’s so apple stops you from replacing and repairing your own phone. Apple just loves serializing parts of the iPhone to stop independent repair. For that matter I’m 100% sure that apple made it so the device won’t boot because there is some identifier in the hardware saying it belongs to m1 (like diff voltages within the hardware or different pin outs) or some serialization denying the possibility of booting if the parts don’t quite match.
@MooseBeCanadian
@MooseBeCanadian Жыл бұрын
No one, not a single soul Luke’s brain “I wonder if I can put an M2 chip in the M1 pro”
@hotwheels9754
@hotwheels9754 Жыл бұрын
Hi! Is the battery the same specifications?
@raitis2112
@raitis2112 Жыл бұрын
Try disasebling MB pro 16 2019. There are a lot ribon cables + like 30 screws need to be removed to remove logic board.
@Squgglebum
@Squgglebum Жыл бұрын
After your expandable Macbook Studio experiment I was certain this wouldn’t work. I still watched buddy……thanks for your video and keep it up! 🙏
@jefferygrantham5582
@jefferygrantham5582 Жыл бұрын
Did you happen to try connecting the MacBooks to an external display to verify that there was no power and not just a simple case of no video signal to the displays?
@josselincol
@josselincol Жыл бұрын
You’d have clickable trackpad, starting noise, lit keyboard if that worked
@lukemiani
@lukemiani Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I had it connected to apple configurator
@gamingsandbox5483
@gamingsandbox5483 Жыл бұрын
Why are you not plugging it in to power. Mine will never post without power adapter even though the battery is full. For the fist power on only, then the batt will work fine.
@websterinternet
@websterinternet Жыл бұрын
Did you put all the case screws back in before firing it up? That is one possible cause! But most likely serialized components not handshaking.
@panzerfan
@panzerfan Жыл бұрын
The parts are all serialized to go with a specific Mac. You ain't getting around that unless if you are creating a repair on GSX, Luke. Good luck being an authorized service provider just so that you can create a repair on that one.
@prayhe
@prayhe Жыл бұрын
I mean yeah apple does this with the newer iPhones but where did you find out that this is the case here aswell?
@miguelfvega9079
@miguelfvega9079 Жыл бұрын
M2 can consume 6W more than M1, maybe some other component checks the wattage of the logic board.
@maklogetrich2378
@maklogetrich2378 Жыл бұрын
when I see the title, I'm imagining a swap arm processor from M2 to M1 board, but yeah, just swap the logic board
@dolyha
@dolyha Жыл бұрын
I love the 27 inch retina display on the apple imac 5k, but apple doesn't sell the 27 inch imac m1, can you make a video on how to mod an old 5k imac into a 5k m1 imac. because the 5k screen is awesome
@turle8645
@turle8645 Жыл бұрын
Swap individual components one at a time to see what is causing the issue
@brianthreedee
@brianthreedee Жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this video, though subjectively pointless, it’s always cool to see if it’s possible! On a side note, I’d love to see the impact of installing a second SSD onto the M2 motherboard. Does Apple offer a configuration with the second SSD? If So, how does that compare in the performance areas? Thank you for the video, and it’s insights!
@ArielGonzalez1
@ArielGonzalez1 Жыл бұрын
Soldered ssd, so technically there is no "second ssd" and just more storage
@brianthreedee
@brianthreedee Жыл бұрын
@@ArielGonzalez1 So regardless of the storage configuration ordered for the M2 MBP 13”, it would still only be a single SSD soldered to the motherboard?
@flamingkillermc2806
@flamingkillermc2806 Жыл бұрын
@@brianthreedee No 512gb or higher will have 2 chips not one. Only base model is 1 which is half the speed.
@brianthreedee
@brianthreedee Жыл бұрын
@@flamingkillermc2806 So then it would be interesting to see if any SSD performance difference between M1 1TB model and M2 1TB model. I would initially think performance on SDD level would match, but memory buffering might have impact.
@stoinks224
@stoinks224 Жыл бұрын
@@brianthreedee he is idiot onlyone storage on bath only channel is two channel max and minimu 215 gb 1 channnel for transfer
@hasanrahmanow7967
@hasanrahmanow7967 Жыл бұрын
Hello, last time I repasted my Macbook Pro 16 Intel, it didn't turn on either. I had to do a SMC/NVRAM reset to make it turn on. Don't know if it's the case for M1/M2 Macs.
@ddruganov
@ddruganov Жыл бұрын
@2:17 that sounded soooo rick and morty style hahaha
@Evie0133
@Evie0133 Жыл бұрын
Everyone else: M2 MBP IS BORING lol Luke: imma swap da boards baybee
@igorkutsienyo7342
@igorkutsienyo7342 Жыл бұрын
Wow, that was a lot of work. You put in a lot of time man. Thanks for the great video. And for the other folks... don't try this at home :)
@TheDloeblein21
@TheDloeblein21 Жыл бұрын
my guess it is now paired to the battery. did you try to turn them on without the battery plugged in to the logic board.
@DracStarDrac
@DracStarDrac Жыл бұрын
Do they have some kind of POST Integrity checks that allows the boot only after checks are working?
@denvera1g1
@denvera1g1 Жыл бұрын
I fully expect every part to be serialized, from the cameras, to the screen, and the battery, requiring a complete swap.
@petermcilroy1176
@petermcilroy1176 Жыл бұрын
I was thinking the battery as well
@georgeh6856
@georgeh6856 Жыл бұрын
If it is a different interface on the keyboard and trackpad, you could try not plugging in the zif ribbon cables for the keyboard and trackpad. Assuming you can still plug in the power button/fingerprint reader, the computer should boot up without any keyboard and trackpad connected, although you obviously would not be able to login unless you plugged in a usb keyboard. Do not respond to impostors of this channel who reply here. They will take all of your money. Be careful.
@quikmath8071
@quikmath8071 Жыл бұрын
Me: Tim (Cook), what's the point of MBP13 with only chip upgrade? Tim: The new models are more Luke Miani-proof. Luke: cracking his knuckles.
@Stinkymole
@Stinkymole Жыл бұрын
Is it down to the T2 chip? Or serial part pairing?
@HearMeLearn
@HearMeLearn Жыл бұрын
literally my reaction to the thumbnail and title was "OH SHIT" so you bet I'm watching this lmao
@Chris_Darkmonkey
@Chris_Darkmonkey Жыл бұрын
The ssd only having 1 module instead of two makes the ssd speeds substantially slower
@PedroPauloAmorim
@PedroPauloAmorim Жыл бұрын
This comment makes no sense
@TechOut
@TechOut Жыл бұрын
@@PedroPauloAmorim Makes a lot of sense you just don't know what you're talking about. 2 drives in raid 0 will have faster speeds than 1 drive.
@rxdmac
@rxdmac Жыл бұрын
Perhaps a iFix it tear down will answer your questions as too why the switch didn’t work!
@mau9175
@mau9175 Жыл бұрын
iFixt tried this and failed too
@hodorigo
@hodorigo Жыл бұрын
LOL I love it!! Honestly will be something I would like to do myself!
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