16TB Toshiba HDD Upgrade

[@Aruneh]

If you think the drive is heavy when new, imagine how heavy it is when full!

[@steffengerlach8395]

😂

[@KarimBenabd]

🤣

[@ahmad-murery]

Also, with all helium they filled inside it, it won't get any lighter😁

[@Rick40867]

😂😂😂😅😅

[@RichardFraser-y9t]

With all of those 1s and 0s, it's going to be so heavy.

[@d.barnette2687]

Greetings from across the pond near Albuquerque, New Mexico, USA. Another great video. Please never let petty criticism drive you off of KZbin -- you are way too professional to let that happen. Even if you walked on water, there will always be a small percentage of folks that would say, "Look at Chris -- he can't even swim!" (I hope that makes you smile!) Keep a stiff upper lip (the English are very good at this), head up, and for heaven's sake keep going. You have plenty of supporters and constructive comments that swamp ANY petty criticism. Maybe it's also good to remember your subscribers are very detail oriented people, and that can be a very good thing. So some will notice the petty mistakes, but I don't think they mean any harm whatsoever. I guess it's just in the nature of detail-oriented people. They really do love your videos as well, or they wouldn't be watching.

[@ExplainingComputers]

Thanks for this and your support, most greatly appreciated. :)

[@Tony-Stockport]

I used to buy Computer Shopper (UK Version) in the 90's when I was just getting into digital audio recording. I remember drooling over an ad for a Seagate 9Gb drive costing £3k. By comparison my £150 phone comes with 128Gb. There's no denying the progress we've made.

[@CommodoreFan64]

it's amazing how far we have come with HDDs as I remember as a little kid in the early 80's my mother was an oncall 24/7 ATM repair tech for a major bank here on the US east coast, so being a single mother she would sometimes have to wake me up in the middle of the night to go with her if my sister was at my dad's place, or staying with a friend, and I remember going to their data center one night after a computer crash, and she told me how much their 10MB HDD cost them about $100K if remember correctly, and they weighed as much as a small TV also being almost as big, which still blows my mind 🤯to this day again at how far we have come with HDD, and storage tech in general. As always Chris great video. 👍

[@matthewharris517]

The first HDD I ever bought was a Western Digital 168GB from 2006 And it STILL Works to this day

[@CommodoreFan64]

@@matthewharris517 Congrats would you like a cookie? Also that's nothing in my first laptop a Zenith DataSystems Supersport 286e I have a 20MB(MEGA BYTE) HDD still working booting up a custom version of MS DOS 2.13

[@matthewharris517]

@@CommodoreFan64 ok that definitely has mine best holy sh*t 😮

[@Praxibetel-Ix]

@@CommodoreFan64 Your mom sounds like a cool lady who had a cool job!

[@legojenn]

I have a 2 TB drive that I have a quarter filled with my music collection and all scanned documents. It's amazing what video production will do for disk space needs.

[@negirno]

Even if you're not producing but storing other videos acquired through sailing the high seas, you'll need more storage because a 1080p movie nowadays can be as big as 20 GiB, and a music album on HiRes Audio (which I find overkill and snake oil personally) can be as large as 5 GiB! Sigh...

[@asiano3385]

I have a 4 TB drive and half of its capacity is filled with games.

[@FlyboyHelosim]

@@negirno 5 GiB for an album is absolutely ridiculous. Snake oil, no kidding!

[@pavelperina7629]

Even photographs if you are taking too many of them in JPEG+RAW. It can easily be 40-55MB per pair and few gigabytes per album. It can add up to half terabyte a year. Then there are some scientific data for work such as uncompressed 3d datasets (for fast reading) either images or data with many spectral channels and processed/derived datasets. With all of this I have like 8TB used on computer drives, about 3TB on external drives used at work and 6TB of backups, having over 20TB of disc capacity at home (2x4TB+1TB SSD in PC, 2x4TB backup/archive drives, 1+4TB external drives).

[@Ollital]

I'm running three Toshiba 10GB drives in my NAS for 2 years now and I'm not disappointed.

[@drmohammedalmasri]

Did you mean 10TB?

[@konitobe-fw8gs]

Are you using raid, and if so what kind? I’ll be setting up a three drive nas soon and I haven’t even decided on an os yet.

[@WuJiZhang-wc9mc]

I'm running next cloud on my old notebook. 1TB on the HDD bay, another 1TB on the DVD-ROM slot using the conversion bay. 1TB is my used HD before I upgrade my other notebook to SSD.

[@BilisNegra]

@@drmohammedalmasri Quite obviously, but it's funny how I did not even notice the typo.

[@zakofrx]

Great drives using the old IBM, Hitachi tech.. The problem is that their warranty is not good in certain countries.. Fine in big countries but is a pain in smaller counties..

[@danielpetre3574]

it's wonderful to see how technology evolves, especially if you also meet a person who explains everything to you so wonderfully. Thank you for everything.

[@CSABY_CSABY]

I have one 18 TB Toshiba for torrents 😁 in 2 years no problems and 24/7 running

[@raevod6361]

Watching EC videos always brings a smile to my face

[@Praxibetel-Ix]

Same. :3

[@MrMattberry1]

I love the whole 80s feel of your videos, including the music, it's great!

[@AlanMason]

Chris: I'll copy the data from the old drive to the new one Quadra: 16:26 _I'm sorry Chris, I'm afraid I can't do that_

[@Reziac]

It goes a lot faster if you're doing internal to internal rather than USB to USB, too.

[@joeldawsey]

I like the blue light on the Lacie drive. Its like a more friendly Hal 9000.

[@ExplainingComputers]

Very true! I hope that it never turns red.

[@amurtigress_mobile365]

@@ExplainingComputers You never know with all the RGB LED stuff going on inside PCs. Might be one of the reasons why I avoid them almost like the plague. xp

[@fillemptytummy]

Just what do you think you're doing, Chris?

[@pavelperina7629]

I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't read that

[@jonjohnson2844]

If Chris did the "see it, say it, sorted" on UK railways, I feel like a lot more things would be said and sorted!

[@jungleboy1]

LOL

[@Haploanddogs]

The 32 TB Seagate drive is not SMR. It is HSMR. This allows you to choose SMR or CMR for every 2GB region across the stroke. You can use it as a full CMR drive

[@vprwave]

Interesting. What does that mean for total capacity, if you choose CMR for the full drive?

[@Haploanddogs]

@@vprwave you get ~28TB.

[@dougjohnson4266]

Keeping your data under your control is one of the best things about this video. Thank you for showing us the Toshiba drive option.

[@psikeyhackr6914]

My first hard drive was 20 MB and cost $600. It included an external case and power supply with ISA interface card. I thought it was a bargain. But all I had to do was wait 40 years.

[@g-r-a-e-m-e-]

You kids ❤ My first was 10Mb but I can't remember how much it cost. It failed within the first year.

[@reh3884]

I never had one, but I remember seeing ads as a kid for 5 MB HDDs for $2,000.

[@psikeyhackr6914]

@@reh3884 See, it was a bargain. And it never failed. I just stopped using it for some reason. Can't remember why.

[@graxxor]

What an absolute pleasure to listen to a professional CALMLY discuss technology. TBH, I never thought I'd be watching another spinning rust video, but here I am, 17 minutes and 46 seconds later having thoroughly enjoyed the show!

[@ExplainingComputers]

Thanks for watching! :)

[@Lemonidas75]

Wow... Drives up to 32TB !!! My first PC had a 300ish MB HDD and I remember thinking "How I was going to ever fill up this vast storage space" ... hahaha. Amazing.

[@MarkTheMorose]

Having gone from audio tapes to 170k floppy disks on my C64, I was stunned when I used an IBM PC XT at work, with a 10MB hard drive. That same drive would today be hard pushed to store a couple of big photos.

[@vincei4252]

My first PC harddisk had 20 megabytes. After buying it it was as though the future had arrived.

[@floydlooney6837]

My first (Tandy 486) had 100MB and many bad sectors.

[@vincei4252]

@@floydlooney6837 lmao, I forgot about the bad sectors.

[@dh2032]

my first personal, 4GB, (the biggest one work place at the time 2GB, most where still well IN MB sizes), Well next 4GB feel a like slow and under size 80GB, (what never going read full, how wrong was I) I have flash drives, larger capacity sizes, in my pocket?

[@cateatingbread]

16TB! Incredible, I bought a 6TB around 5 or so years ago and that still seems huuuge :)

[@rysterstech]

Toshiba drives for me have always been great. Reliable, fast and reasonably priced. Im currently an N300 4tb in my custom built omv nas and had an x300 4tb before which i accidentally broke the sata connectors clean off of, pins and all during a motherboard upgrade that required the drives removal. Also have a 4tb wd blue as a cold backup, and i circulate older 1 and 2tb drives for my offsite backup, although i will likely pickup a third 4tb at the end of the year as my offsite drives are nearing a decade old at this point.

[@mikewatson1105]

Okay, you inspired me to do it! I checked the price on Amazon Australia, and the 20TB was the same price price as the 18TB, and the same price per byte as the 16TB. Formatting just completed after 24 hours, 58 minutes. and all seems to be working well after following your direction with extreme care. Thank you so much! Mike.

[@ExplainingComputers]

Cool -- great to hear! :)

[@evolv_85]

Toshiba are a very reliable brand in my experience. Used various products of theirs over the years and never been disappointed.

[@MicrobyteAlan]

Thanks, excellent video. Back in the day, I don't think those big computer rooms ever had a total of that 16tb. 👍

[@ExplainingComputers]

So true! Greetings Alan.

[@lawrenceallwright7041]

Not sure if I've seen Allen the key before. Welcome Allen. I've said before and I'll say it again, how nice to see someone on KZbin speaking in paragraphs without jerky cuts every 5 seconds. You even left in the bit where you went to reassemble the unit the wrong way, and who can honestly say they've never done that? The only visible camera trick is the occasional fast forward when doing up screws. The most relaxing and reassuring computer channel, and one of the most informative.

[@CreachterZ]

Many years ago we had a customer request a 1GB hard drive. We only stocked those in one of our regional stores, so I had to drive there to pick it up and get the commission. I remember sitting there in the parking lot totally in awe of this thing and telling myself that I would someday be able to have one of these for my own.

[@mitya]

You should mention that selecting default allocation unit size during formatting will not allow you to utilize the entire disk space, if you only use a single partition. For disk of such size you need to select allocation unit size of at least 8kb. I had to reformat my drive, after discovering I was unable to utilize over 200GB of disk space because of this setting.

[@MikelNaUsaCom]

yep, worthy of research... as matching data size to the typical application can increase performance as well as utilizing the storage capacity. If you are using notepad, it doesn't matter too much, but if you have your SQL server set to 32k clusters, it's probably best to match that with disk allocation at 32k as well, for example. Happy Sunday!

[@Kevin-mx1vi]

Many years ago, when I ran a Commodore Amiga, I remember reading that its hard drive interface would support drives up to 4 gigabytes, followed by "but no-one will ever need that much storage" 😂

[@VividNation]

Indeed the Amiga never did. The OS was about 32 MB when you had full production setup with tons of software installed. (exept ofcourse later os4x and devirates who can go up to a whopping 500 mb) but then all you needed is the software wich was slim and efficient. Office suits, Painting, Email and Browsers, Audio studios, you name it and you still had 3 GB free for Data.

[@alanthornton3530]

Thanks Chris for a thoroughly enjoyable video, I like the solid look of the LaCie drive enclosure it's well engineered & supplied with plenty of ports! My first computers HDD was only 3GB running W98 SE in early 2000 & I thought that was a lot, how things have changed in 24 years, where to next? I'm glad to see the appearance of Allen the key :)

[@ronkemperful]

My first computer that supported a hard disk was an Atari 520 ST. The 600 dollar drive available for it could hold 20 megabytes, which I thought was a lot at the time... but that is roughly 838,861 times less the capacity of your 16 TB drive. Amazing that in 35 years technology has progressed that much!

[@Bonez0r]

Ah, that brings me back to the good old days of my Amiga 500+ (I still have it, and it still works :)). I added an 80 MB hard disk to it. I don't remember what it cost, but I do remember it had a whopping 2 MB/s speed, a vast improvement compared to the 20 KB/s floppy drive.

[@ronkemperful]

@@Bonez0r Yes, floppies were exponentially slower than even the slow HD of the 1980's, kind of like HD are over six times slower than the slowest SSDs that are currently sold!

[@tonyhampton7736]

Chris, you give such great content. Thank you.

[@danmanx2]

Thank you Chris! I love these simple installation videos. Only true nerds will understand how satisfying upgrading an old hard drive to a bigger capacity is!

[@srtcsb]

Love the hardware stuff! Good grief, the drive capacities have gotten large. Currently looking at an external 4TB backup drive myself, the 1TB drives aren't enough anymore. Thanks for another great video Chris. 😎👍

[@markwoll]

I have 8 of those 16tb Toshiba's in my NAS. A little noisy but they a have good track record with backblaze. I have been running Toshiba drives for years and have been very happy with them.

[@jondonnelly3]

Damn that's a lot of space.

[@MikeBob2023]

Thank you, Mr. Barnatt. 🙏🏼👍🏼🙌🏼 I remember upgrading my very first 10 *megabyte* HDD to one that was TWICE that size. I thought to myself, _"Woohoo, I'm in the Big Leagues now!"_ (And they were HUGE, each one of them being almost the size of one of your D2 enclosures. 🤣) You can never have 'too much' storage capacity! 💽💾💿📀

[@vinsan98]

Great Video as always I always get excited when I see storage media! those LaCie cases are seriously tough and overengineered! It’s like they were designed to survive a nuclear blast. Definitely makes you appreciate the build quality, even if it’s a bit of a challenge to open up. On another note, I recently built a NAS with 4 x 4TB drives in a RAID Z1 configuration, and it’s working great! The performance is solid, and it gives me a nice balance between redundancy and storage space. 👍😃

[@Frankhe78]

The Toshiba MC8 series are excellent drives. I have two of them in my NAS in a mirror set configuration. Approaching 32000 operating hours and I expect them to last for some years to come. I find them actually quite noisy, but hey, these are enterprise drives. The performance is very much enterprise, fast and reliable. A good price point for a 16 TB storage need.

[@martinsmith5028]

Hi Chris. Always good to see new hardware being tested and used

[@ExplainingComputers]

Thanks 👍

[@claycoates5056]

I remember a 10 meg drive and when i got it thinking that the thing was Huge and that i would never use it up in 1983 and it cost a fortune with the IBM XT WOW have things Changed

[@reggiep75]

Damn! The old days of formatting drives is a distant memory for most users... unless you're in heavy storage.

[@Martin4982]

Greetings Chris. Way back in the late 90s my first PC was a 386SX with 4Mb RAM and a 80Mb Conner Hard Drive. Windows 3.1 and MS-DOS 5.0 took like 25-35Mb, leaving me with about 40Mb... Had lots of games and software copied from my friends with floppy disks. Eventually I reached 10Mb space remaining, and resorted to MS-DOS DriveSpace, although it was slower and consuming some of the 640K memory, I could squeeze some extra space... THE GOOD OLD DAYS.... Crazy how things evolved. Thanx Chris for another informative and entertaining Sunday afternoon.

[@darojax]

Brilliant videos as always. I bought myself a Toshiba MG09 Enterprise 18TB the other week, you just gave me confidence it was indeed the right buy. :)

[@ExplainingComputers]

I have been very pleased with my drive. I hope that you are pleased with yours, and we both made a good buy! :)

[@colanitower]

I have a LaCie 'biggest disk' 2TB drive (2x1TB disks as 1 volume) still in use. Three 500GB 'big disk's are retired, but it's fun to see the big one still working

[@ExplainingComputers]

Very cool. They were/are a classic.

[@lorderectus1849]

Chris’s in love with LaCie!

[@Praxibetel-Ix]

His fleet of LaCies have served him well over the years. I'd be in love with a LaCie drive too. :)

[@ianhaylock7409]

I recently replaced several 6TB of my NAS drives with a 16TB drive. With the old drives they would only spin up when needed. I found out that Enterprise drives are designed to run 24/7 and should not be spun down. So using them for backups where they are spun up and down a lot, won't be too good for their health.

[@WIImotionmasher]

I had a used Toshiba HDD in my gaming PC for eight years. And replaced it with a new 6TB Toshiba drive, before it ever died. Just didn't want it dieing on me while in use. They're the best drives as far as I'm concerned.

[@samaitcheson7057]

My first HDD was 52MB (49MB formatted) but even with 32TB drives, there's still never quite enough storage. It's always worth spending a bit more on storage IMO.

[@robyn6521]

Wow, that LaCie D2 Quadra enclosure is a beast!

[@PS_Tube]

Sunday greetings. The storage upgrade videos always take us long time PC users to the nostalgic place. My first PC had a drive with 20 GB hard drive back in the 2000s because 40 GB drive wasn't that much affordable.

[@olias58]

The timing of this video is perfect, I have been shopping for a new drive to increase our home systems backup capacity. As always,another very good video!

[@samueldegrandi6603]

it's nice to see someone passionate for what they do nice videos :)

[@tommyvanpelt2408]

You mention the hesitation about purchasing a massive hard drive at such a price and it reminded me of the first hard drive I bought which was 5 megs and was for a Heathkit H89...I think it was in excess of $1000 in 1979ish which is inconceivable today. Great video!

[@The.Doctor.Venkman]

Great video, Chris! Indeed, may we all live long enough to see it filled to capacity! 🎉

[@johncundiff7075]

Sorry Mr. Barnatt, but I've been working out on the road playing bass with our band! Just now got home at 6pm Sunday night, Texas time. I'll be watching your video tomorrow morning with a full comment and like! Can't wait to watch!

[@ExplainingComputers]

Playing with the band sounds cool! :)

[@johngangemi1361]

Great video Chris. I do a full format too on new HDDs. I don't do it on SSDs as it causes wear on the flash cells.

[@npr1300A8]

I'm ready to back my 2nd NAS drive up. I have a collection of WD red 10TB drives that were in my old EX2 NAS drives. However, I've added videos here, videos there over the last 4 years or so making my backups a bit of a mess! I should sit down and check out all my drives for duplicates of videos etc. I use a docking device rather than an enclosures but store the drives in individual hard cases, so they're well protected when stored. Update. I've purchased a Toshiba 18TB HDD from the lads at Scan. I need to back my WD PR4100 up and this drive will cover the job. 👍🏻

[@jeraldgooch6438]

Chris- nobody but you could take a necessary but somewhat annoying and mundane chore into a clever and entertaining video! Well done!

[@emdotrod]

I just recently bought a 4TB drive for backing up. I thought it's huge enough for me and you just bought a 16TB drive. Now my 4TB drive looks like a 500GB drive.

[@tohaason]

The problem with huge drives is that when they fail you lose huge.. So when I bought a 4TB drive I actually bought two of them, one is mirroring the other.

[@eduardo_carvajal]

@@tohaason well, you need to buy another one at 16TB 😂

[@golf-n-guns]

My first computer was a C64 back around 1983 with a floppy drive. 16TB was science fiction back then.

[@Starchface]

I suspect 16TB in 1985 would have been enough capacity to store all human-generated knowledge with room to spare for your Steam library.

[@markhackney3305]

you had a floppy for your C64! I had an old tape recorder and no access to tutorials other than the standard user manual. Would end up copying code from magazines without really understanding the code its self, especially 'machine code' routines to add explosions and such.

@@markhackney3305 I geeked out my C64 in 1983 and eventually had 2 floppy drives, a cassette tape recorder and the extra memory cartridge. It was my main driver when I was at the CCM at Mills College, Oakland, working on a Masters in Electronic Music. My friend Jeff also had a C64 and we connected them so they'd run off one clock so we'd have a 6 voice synthesizer. We wrote a lot of Basic programs to run machine code number tables and the MusiCalc synth & sequencer. We also played 2 keyboards and 2 guitars and did a lot of performances in the Bay Area and Seattle. Ha ha! Those were the days of poke and peek!

[@happyputt9709]

@@markhackney3305 Same, mum would get them for me from the newspaper, and you could write code from a magazine which would run a primitive program or action.

[@dyu4634]

I remember using an 8-inch floppy drive in the school lab. Kids have it good today 😀

[@hamesparde9888]

The activity light on the front of that drive enclosure is very pretty and a bit reminiscent of Hal. I Can see why you got a close up.

[@tomschmidt381]

I've been in the PC game for years and during the 1990's worked at NEC and then DEC. In 1994 upgraded the HDD in my work desktop PC with (wait for it) a 500 MB drive. The explosion of storage capacity, both rust-on-Aluminum and Flash has been mind boggling over the years. Our poor man's home server is a recycled T420 Thinkpad laptop. Four-ish years ago I stuck a 2.5" 2TB HDD in the DVD/CD slot for bulk storage. Those HDD enclosures look fantastic. I'll have to look into it if I need to replace my existing suit of external HDDs

[@aramrahgozar]

Always enjoying watching you, Sir.

[@maximilianholland]

Thank you Chris. Personally, having had one or two "incidents" with vertical HDD cases falling over during operation and killing the drive, I was eying the LeCie with some dread. Perhaps you position them in such a way as to make falls almost impossible, and I would certainly recommend that cautionary step for the average user. I haven't used HDDs for critical data since 2007 due to this potential vulnerability, but I can see that - as one backup location of many - no single failure would be fatal. Anyway, I'm sure this new drive will serve you well for many years to come. Godspeed for your next 1M subscribers!

[@djlane74]

While a I was at school (UK) we sent in digital data to go on the new. Doomsday book project, we used a BBC micro. That was the start of my digital journey

[@yagoa]

I have had 2 of these in RAID-0(32TB) for 3 years and am very satisfied

[@JackalGB]

Since early 2000's I've always used Western Digital HDD's. They were always solidly built and lasted almost forever. But since 2016 I've bought a 3TB blue (used only as an external storage drive) and it failed within 3 years. I bought a 4TB Black and an 8TB Black as internal storage drives. Both developed a horrible continuous "clunking" noise at idle after a few months. I ended up using them both as external storage drives. While I no longer use HDD's in my newer PC builds, there's still a place for them. Sadly, I will not be buying anymore Western Digital drives. I might be looking into Toshiba HDD drives in the future, thank you, Chris! 😃👍

[@ClayWheeler]

Just a reminder, Toshiba is parent company of Kioxia. In the past, Toshiba created SSD as well, but now, SSD became its own division Company, which is Kioxia

[@World_of_OSes]

When plugging in a new hard drive for the first time, I like to open CrystalDiskInfo and take a screenshot of it saying 0 power-on hours, and 1 power-on count.

[@ExplainingComputers]

Nice! I wish I'd done that now.

[@Reziac]

Some have a bug that inflates hours way beyond reality. I have one that now claims somewhere upward of 250k hours, tho reality is about 40k hours.

[@motogee3796]

Yup you can also check out other drive health (SMART) parameters from other apps like HD sentinel. These are especially useful in the long run to understand drive motor health, presence of bad sectors etc

[@motogee3796]

Yup you can also check out other drive health parameters from SMART in other apps like HD sentinel. These are especially useful in the long run to understand drive motor health and the presence of bad sectors.

[@motogee3796]

Yup you can also check out other drive health parameters from SMART in HD sentinel. These are especially useful in the long run to understand drive motor health and the presence of bad sectors.

[@timothy8428]

I kind of yearn for the simple times when you logged on at a terminal connected to a minicomputer and someone else worried about the details. So much more Zen than the clamour of modern computing.

[@DavidPirouet]

Over a million subscribers the channels are going well obviously good to see!

[@jamiemcglynn6600]

It's mind-blowing how storage has evolved. I built my first machine in the first half of 2007 with 250GB from WD; I still have that one in my possession. Also 500-750GB was the best at that time. I ponder where SSDs will be, come the end of the decade... as currently 8TB is the most I've seen in either 2.5 or M.2 size. Also, a setup tip from me: Chris is right that the default allocation unit size is suitable for most users and mixed-purpose volumes, but if you know you're going to use it for a specific or dedicated purpose, for example video-editing or a Steam game library, set it larger (e.g. 128/256KB). Doing so can help reduce fragmentation and improve sequential speeds (to an extent). Also, don't bother with 0.5K, 1K or 2K, as many drives now use the 4K advanced format standard and doing so will result in emulation and dreadful throughput (speaking from experience...). If in doubt, there's a tool called ATTO Disk Benchmark, that can visually-illustrate what might work best if you have a real need for speed.

[@Melsharpe95]

I'd love for you to revisit your long-term storage solutions such as the M-Disc and whether you still use it or have switched to something different.

[@andic6676]

Great video Chris. Never had any luck with Toshiba drives myself...so wishing you better outcomes! You may want to check the SMART data value for Helium level from time to time.

[@ExplainingComputers]

I will cross my fingers! :)

[@andic6676]

​@@ExplainingComputersYou may want to check the SMART data value for Helium level from time to time.

[@SuperDavidEF]

​@@ExplainingComputers While I've always favored Western Digital drives, I've always known Toshiba drives to be well made. Every Toshiba drive I've encountered was in use for decades without incident. Seagate is the one I've had nothing but problems with. I've seen dozens of failed Seagate drives over the years, usually less than 10 years old when they failed. But each of us has different experiences, so YMMV. Thanks for the video! My favorite part was when you said "...many more years of Explaining Computers episodes."

[@andic6676]

@@SuperDavidEF I've always had good service from WD drives, too...even the smr ones which just tended to be slow.

[@davidgoodnow269]

Years and years ago, I came across the recommendation to do a full secure-erase, the eight-way rewrite, as a way of stress-testing new hard disk drives. This was at a time when many new factory drives were failing, days or months in. It worked then, and I highly recommend it still!

[@jonr6680]

Don't need the space but the pro level reliability and speed sure is compelling. Might have to look into this upgrade.

[@Ollital]

It's not really an Unboxing without Stanley the knife. 🙂

[@ExplainingComputers]

True!

[@psychogamer1368]

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[@psychogamer1368]

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[@AmishElectrician60]

Chris gave Stanley the day off.

[@dang48]

@@AmishElectrician60 And Stanley earned it.

[@michaelwright2986]

Nobody ever regretted buying too much storage. When I bought my first HDD, I thought about it for quite a while before deciding that I would spend the extra and get the 20MB. Mind you, in those days, before consumer level digital images and music, that was a lot of capacity, as even text files had less overhead than these days. Long may your disks spin.

[@charleshays2071]

As always, a very nice video! Thank you for the reference on your 3-2-1 storage/backup video. I will definitely watch it.

[@AI.Absurdity]

16 TB can store: Approximately 4 million photos (assuming each photo is about 4 MB). About 4,000 hours of high-definition video (assuming 4 GB per hour). Around 4 million MP3 songs (assuming 4 MB per song). The entire contents of about 4,000 DVDs (assuming 4 GB per DVD).

[@ExplainingComputers]

A very cool list, thanks for sharing. But let me add another entry -- 16TB can store about 133 hours of ProRes 422 HD video (c.2GB per minute) -- and this is the format that I record and capture for ExplainingComputers. :)

[@OKuusava]

@@ExplainingComputers -and perhaps on every "ready-made" videos you have also 6x videos betaversions and 25x of videos not came to that end-product at all.

[@bigjoeangel]

That's a reasonable price for that much storage. HDDs really amaze me just how big they've become, they just keep sqeezing on more bits per inch with mind-bending physics. Now they're heating up each region to be written to with a laser pulse, just incredible! I've got a 6TB in my PC and an 8TB desktop drive for backups, I think one or both are Seagate SMR drives.

[@JM-rb2or]

Love this channel, very educational!

[@igfoobar]

It might be worth mentioning that Quick Format is preferred for virtual disks, since the media has already been verified ... and also a full format can make a thin provisioned disk take up its full allocated space.

[@woodwaker1]

I also have never regretted getting new - bigger storage. My first upgrade was from cassette tapes to a 32MB hard drive for my TRS 80 Model 1, I think around 1979 or 80. If I remember correctly it was about the same price as your new 16TB drive

[@arxaaron]

Like you, Chris, I find Firewire 800 connectivity very useful given the number of functional legacy systems I have that support it. Unfortunately, it's been getting increasingly difficult to find Sata HD enclosures that support FW 800, which had me looking into the Lacie d2 Quadra model seen in this video. I did find several used units listed on eBay, (U.S.), though nothing that didn't include the cost of an installed hard drive. All the more glad I stocked up on a few Mercury Elite enclosures that allow for easy drive swapping when left open. They've worked with drives as large as 10TB, so I expect they'll handle even larger capacity drives. Again, like you, I've never regretted investments in storage, and will probably snag a couple of the Toshiba MG08 16TB drives based on the success of your testing.

[@rautamiekka]

Can't wait to get one cuz half a dozen of 2-8Tb drives (and 2-3 dying ones of similar sizes) splitting up like 20TB of data, which is a huge problem. An even bigger problem is an enclosure that can even take such drives, much less not cost as much as the drive itself.

[@ninline2000]

I've got a collection of hard drives going back to the late eighties including a 5.25" full height SCSI drive that once ran a BBS on an Amiga 2000. I've only had one go bad on me, a Conner drive. I still have all kinds of software and various documents stored on them including a lot of old programming. I probably should pull it all off and store it on newer media like this drive.

[@micksmithson6724]

I have been using these for a few years, theyre the best HDD in my experience, 5x16TB MG series and none has had any issues. They can be a little noisier but the reliability and speed more than makes up for that

[@Frankhe78]

I would indeed prefer to use this particular series in a 24/7 operation and not as single backup drive. The firmware of enterprise drives will stop trying to read a difficult to read block and send a message to the controller to recover the data from the array. If you don't have an array you might not get your data. On the other hand I would not use desktop drives in a drive array because one drive might be thrown out of the array by the controller if it spends too much time trying to recover a block where that data is actually still available in the array. So yes, horses for courses. Choose the right kind of drive for your application.

[@asranath]

philip the screwdriver certainly had a workout in this video

[@mwolfer1]

And his little sister Philippa! 😉

[@mclaine33]

16TB is so much wow. I remember my dad having a Pentium II back in the day with a “massive” 1 gigabyte hard drive and back then that felt incredible. Same feeling as having this 16TB drive to be honest.

[@davocc2405]

With all drives I always run a full manufacturer's diagnostic sweep on the drive before utilising it - this size of drive could run up to a couple of days to run the sweep, it's more comprehensive than just doing a standard format usually. Haven't used too many Toshy drives so far but the ones I've used have all gone in without a flaw, good to see 16's in the sweet spot placement too. BTW - FWIW we've found that drives of this size have worked in the old HP Proliant Microservers (have had one put into an N40L and it worked happily). For more DIY systems some of the lower end a case like the Antec VSK-4000B-U3 has a slew of 5.25" slots too (which can take adaptors to fit 3.5's, sometimes even 3x3.5's into a 2x5.25" socket if the fins allow it). I know a guy who is putting in 8 drives into one at the moment, 4x onboard SATA ports and a PCI-E 4x sata card make up for a very low cost solution all up; you can use this as a storage tank and send it to sleep with a remote command and wake it up with a WoL magic packet command over the network so this storage-tank PC can be located well out of the way and away from dust ingress, toddlers' fingers and errant cats hell bent on destruction.

[@techmaster-ch5yd]

This capacity of 16 TB seems very huge, one drawback is that diagnostics like complete surface scan will take a very long time (almost 24 hours), alternative would be to give up the idea of full surface scan, you can instead use strategies like scanning often a small amount of random sectors, some hard-disk utilities (smartmontools) have these options.

[@Pallidus_Rider]

I will have to check out this drive. It is utterly massive. My first hard drive was a Western Digital 256MB drive back in the early 90s. For the most part, I have always preferred Western Digital and Hitachi.

[@jasonhawkins4528]

I've had my first SSD die on me today, it kept freezing and crystal disk info said 77% after a week of health 89% but it came up with no errors. Replaced it and all good. I did back up the data as soon the symptoms comes

[@millzee60]

The only drives I regretted buying were some WD. I had three in a RAID5 array. After a year one of the drives failed so I sent it back to WD under warranty. Three days later, before I could rebuild the array, a second drive failed taking all my data with it. And the replacement drives WD sent me were remanufactured, not new. I’ve never bought another WD storage device since and that was 25 years ago. I favour Seagate now.

[@Reziac]

WD learned their lesson with remanufactures, and stopped doing that a long time ago. Seagates have a higher fail rate, run hotter, and until recently were a lot slower. But I wonder what size your WDs were. If they were over 32GB and formatted FAT32, that's not the drive, it's a documented bug in FAT32 that if the partition is over 32GB, causes data wrapping that mimics drive failure, which happens as soon as any data is written past the 32GB limit. This is why FDISK was originally limited to 32GB partitions, but about the time the 40GB drives came out some idiot at MSFT removed the 32GB limit, and then we had a rash of "failed" hard drives, almost all WD because at the time they had the only drives over 32GB.

[@Kw1161]

Thanks Chris and great to see unexpected friends “MR PHILLIPS, MR SCISSORS AND COMPANIONS” being used to upgrade your data storage systems. I forgot the computer scientist who stated that 500 megabytes would be the maximum capacity back in the 1950’s ,but I need a couple of those 16 TB drives myself to update my old video tape collection alone….😮😂! Have a great day!

[@robertfletcher3421]

That was fascinating, brings me back to my first PC, an IBM AT Compatible. It came with a 20 Megabyte half height Microscience Drive, and I thought I would never fill it up. It cast more than the PC $AU 1200. It was in the 1980s, we have come a very long way.

[@lorderectus1849]

Allen the Key 🔑 is excited to be on show!

[@dwgray9000]

I started with a Spectrum +2, and then a Amiga with a second floppy. A HDD was a ridiculous luxury. And that A1200 ran a multitasking 32bit OS nicely from a couple of 880k floppies and 2mb of ram.

[@frostar701]

Thank you for showcasing one of the Toshiba drives. I've been curious about them due to their price point, but I have been cautious.

[@NunTheLass]

I bought something similar, a WD Gold, for no other reason than never having to delete a game. Meant to be the last HD I will ever buy in my life, so I figured I might as well get one that lasts for over a decade in terms of size and quality, saving a little money didn't make sense to me on this occasion, it's just nice to have 'infinite' storage.

[@plexnbrown760]

I have been running 6tbs for 8 years for back ups. They are solid drives 😊