17 Superduty Driver Heated Seat INOP!!!!

Hey everyone!!! Welcome back. This victim was the same as the last one with the expensive heated steering wheel. The customer also had a drivers heated seat that did not function correctly. Come with as we dive in, remove and repair this Flagships drivers heated seat!!! Make sure to like and subscribe for more Powerstroke repairs. See you ALL next FRIDAY, duces!
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[@TheJmw116]

Thanks for this video! Dealer quoted $1200. Was able to figure out the problem via online forums, then watch your video for the replacement. I left the seat in, just lifted it as high as it would go. 30 min job and a $140 part. Done!

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Boom

[@stevenfuchs2548]

Another great how to vid! The actual "secret" take apart parts are worth their weight in digital GOLD!!! Thanks for bringing us along and documenting.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Thanks Steven

[@patriotone755]

Great work, enjoyed the video! Keep the vids coming!

[@Gustavo-rg3mb]

Another great video man. Very professional and informative. Straight banger my guy.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Hey buddddddddy

[@jimbobxcityguy5338]

Thanks for the video. Made it easier to fix the seat I have. Same modual had gone bad. Being an Upholster it was a breeze. Zipper was the hardest part. Didn't un zip easy. So lube helped.

[@tomcoppa2211]

Just used this video and forscan to diagnose why my driver seat heat wasnt working. Thanks!!!!! Just ordered the ted to fix the seat

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Hell yea brother, make to check my page out

[@darweez]

Thank you for this video worked like a charm! I saw in a forum that you could do it without removing the seat. Just as long as you could reach the plugs you could change the heater without without seat removal😊

[@darweez]

Also, Good idea to wipe down the lower fan grill. Mine was super dusty

[@user-mu5nh8fi6y]

Another great video. To quote Mr. Rogers "Wont you be my neighbour" Thanks

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Thanks buddy, won't you?

[@orville58]

Man you rock it’s amazing what you get into thanks for sharing

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Thanks my dood!!!!

[@ricardorodriguez-se7tp]

Great video Arod

[@DaFrostyG]

My son was laying beside me watching the video, he loves the intro music.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

👍👌👍👌👍👌👍👌👍

[@BestBettsPools]

Nice fix ehh!!! GO BRUINS

[@djcobb74]

Thank You, my driver side went out. I didn't even have to remove the seat to change out the part, now it works great again! Thanks for the video!

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Hell yea. Glad to have helped & wasnt even therrr hahaha

[@derekcaryntroost3156]

When diagnosing and looking for wiring diagrams I found it helpful to remember that these are not technically heated seats but climate controlled seats. Learned that the hard way trying to find wiring diagrams.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Yea, right in the section that says climate controlled seats🤣🤣

[@michaelchan8915]

That is a very interesting vid, as usual. It would be interesting to see what the pinpoint test instructs you to do to get you to that step. I would if there is a specific ohm spec for the component itself that would condemn the part? Like let's say glow plugs? I see that your dealership uses ADP/CDK drive as well.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Yepp we sure do

[@jerryknorr679]

Nice job how long did it take u to fix the problem. Good video thanks ARod

[@darweez]

Does that blow on the main seat pad as well? I see something round with a screen on the bottom.

[@timshepherd6394]

2018 lariat has zipper pulled apart. Going to try this to see if it will zipper itself back up. 🤞

[@robvia2142]

my 2017 lariat does the opposite. Back heats and cools, but seat doesn't work. I can hear the cooling fan on under the seat part but i don't feel the cool air or heat.

[@tylermacconnell217]

Interesting video. I have owned a 2017 Ford Lariat with this style heated / cooled seat, and another 2017 Ford XLT with a traditional resistance grid heated seat. The XLT seat has noticeably better heat. I also installed Katzkin leather in the XLT Super Duty by completely removing all the seats and removing the cloth and installing leather. Ford does not use hog rings on this generation; only rails and snaps which is nice. Finally, the TED does actually supply cooled air to the seat perforations through a peltier effect. Heat can be removed from one pole by applying current to the opposite pole...or by switching polarity heat can be generated. Either way, the fan pushes the heated or cooled air through the ducts to the perforations to the occupants.

[@petervassallo2604]

Great Video! Replaced the heater/blower drivers side seat. Did not fix my problem of no heat and intermittent cooling. Would you suggest doing the seat back or should I go to the Ford Dealer and have a diagnostic done and have the dealer do the repair. Just not sure if there are relays etc. and I would be throwing good money out the window by purchasing the the seat back heater/blower. let me know your thoughts. Thank you in advance!

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Yea depending on your dtc it may have been the back to begin with

[@nathanelliott2249]

Having the same issue on my 17 6.7l platinum. Is that heater/blower the only source of heat for these seats? Ford doesn’t have a coil running on top of the cushion? I’m going to to order the blower unit tomorrow. It gets pretty cold up here in Canada haha

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Yepp

[@mstenvold88]

Apologize for commenting on such an old video but my 17 super duty has this issue currently. Do you know if I am able to look up the DTCs in ForScan to see if it is the seat bottom or back?

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Yes u can!

[@ricardorodriguez-se7tp]

On the same truck 2011 f450 i switch the headlight switch with a good one and disconnected every light one by one to see if that harness was making the park lights to stay on do you have a wiring schematics i think its the BCM like you said or the steering wheel control module. Thanks

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Yes i have anything u need

[@patrickpower6096]

Hey man. I've read some of the comments to try and answer my questions but I couldn't find them all. 1st. I've got a 17 lariat with the heated and cooled seats. Both do not work at all. Seat and seat back on either seat. Is this the issue I'm having is the "ted" not working on both? And do you happen to have the part numbers for both parts? And is that forscan you are using to read the dtcs and clear them as well?

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Could be. No, its IDS. You'd have to get it checked out.

[@alexshikin5093]

My cushion seems to have considerably less heat then it used to. Is it the solution similar (replace the lower "TED")?

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Yepp

[@noahrussell5430]

My 16 F-150 is doing the same thing. Would I be able to diagnose which TED is the issue with FORScan or do I need to take it to a dealer to have them diagnose it?

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

All depends if you can view the same shit you seen me do...

[@ryan_torres]

Do they not have replaceable filters anymore? I remember my 2012 SD had filters.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Yea i believe they 86'ed those

[@walkaboutmotors]

Great video. Have the same issue on my 2017 F250 Lariat Diesel!!!! Question: What do you recommend for diagnosis software? Would love to have the information you received from your testing software?

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

I only use IDS. Check it out on rotundatools.com

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Look up rotunda tools

[@pimpdnice6869]

Can you use foscan to test it

[@mikes1127]

I have a 2016 f250, I deleted it at 37k and afterwards my front seats stopped workin as far as heated/cooled. The passenger side fan (on the TED) kicks on but the driver side does not. the steering wheel also doesn't heat up. Where do you sudjest I start looking to fix this issue? Is there a set of schematics I can get so I can trouble shoot. Replaced the fuses also. Thanks!

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Im sure u can find online manual. Need scan tool

[@bigsky5248]

Great video! I'm having the same issue. The button works, just no heat. Is there two blower units? Would I just be money ahead replacing these unit(s)?Thanks in advance for any response.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Yea, id just do both. Ull fix the 1 & have 2 take it all back apart just to do thee other one. Hope this helps

[@tickvball]

@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod Is it the same part for both?

[@tickvball]

Never mind...think I found them both

[@markegan1690]

If I found a powered passenger seat for my xlt , would it have to be from a super duty or would a f150 work?

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

🤷‍♂️

[@ChrisLivingstoninUtah]

Any idea how to tell if this is the blower problem or the module problem without OBD equipment? My drivers side shuts off after 30 sec as many do, I'm happy to do the labor thanks to your vid! Just not sure which part to pick up.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Youd have to go thru the pin point test to find out the correct avenue

[@jdeaton17]

would this be similar to a truck without cooled seats? my heated seats aren't kicking on (2017 f350 same seats as in the video just without cool option) the light on the switch doesn't kick on. Both passenger and driver went out at the same time. my controls aren't on the front module though they are on the side next to the lumbar adjustment

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

No them are a bit different

[@jdeaton17]

@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod any advice on where to start? Both went out the same time I'm hoping just a fuse?

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

More like modules fer them. Id love to help. U need to visit my paypal & get u a scan tool, then we can continue. Up to you [e-mail]

[@Mike-mn9xo]

What are your thoughts on the s&b cai for the 6.7? Is it worth it or is the factory intake good enough?

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Good question I like the more flow however the filtering capabilities of the OE filter are far superior than the other ones. More air, equals bigger holes. For every action there is an equal or opposite reaction

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Thanks bud!!

[@17powerstroke92]

Thanks great video. Do all 17 f250 have the same heated seat system? Is there a heater for seat bottom and seat back? Or is it just one per seat?

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

If u have ac & heated seats, you have what u saw...2 TEDS one for seat & one for the back. If u just have heated seats, then u just have an old plain heating element in

[@lawnprosnebraska3424]

What does it mean when you click the cooled seat button and the seats don’t click on and start blowing? Thanks in advance!

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Theres an issue with what u saw in my video

[@WhiteKnuckleRacingJD]

A-Rod, my driver heated seat is INOP in my 2019 f350 Dually Lariat Ultimate the past few months. (as soon as winter began) It's likely this TED you showed, but without being a ford tech, is there any software I can obtain to scan the temps like you did on your laptop to find out for sure before throwing a $130 part into the Driver upper seat back and find out after its not it? thanks man

[@elywagner3800]

Did you ever fig out your issue? I'm having same on my 17 f350 dually xlt. Driver bottom and back not working but cool does

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Any codes in seat modules?

[@firetaz39]

Does anyone know if ForScan software can test the same modules like the IDS software used in this video? I have same year and model - seat with inop lovwer heat...

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Yes, it should be able to talk to the seat control modules without issue

[@axl151]

Why did this truck have so many issues with creature comfort devices? Some other electrical issue take them out?

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Naw peeps be usin the shiiiz out of them

[@jasonmizen3491]

Is there only 1 TED per seat on the 17 because it looks to have another similar white motor on the bottom side of the seat? or is the heat cool function only up in the rear. How long do is the repair for an average car junky

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

2 per seat

[@TheMoneyBed]

Are you using Ford IDS to run those pids?

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Yes

[@Gustavo-rg3mb]

🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Ayyyyyyeeeeee

[@NovaScotia055]

I'm assuming that is the only fan assembly for the seat for heat an cool? Just noticed that mine went out recently. Thanks

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Yes

[@NovaScotia055]

@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod thanks for the prompt response

[@fullyford]

so are you able to do this diagnosis through forscan, or is this the computer that they use at the dealers. my driver seat is doing the same thing. works then shuts down. and dam do I miss my heated seat

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Maybe🤔

[@fullyford]

@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod ok. Now if I could only get this old crappy laptop to startup. Keeps say windows xp needs activated but then when I click on it it says it is. Frustrating

[@adamjohnson3647]

I have a 2014 with this issue. Is there much difference between the two generations?

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Yes sir

[@jeffembry7413]

Are the 2020 Super Duty heated seats set up the same? I seem to be having this issue in my truck.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Yes

[@jeffembry7413]

PowerStroke Tech Talk w/ARod is the new part improved? Or will it be expected to go out eventually too?

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

I dont know what your problem is....cld be wiring...module....heating element....etc. gotta get it diag'ed

[@chanzsmothers9447]

So if just replaced this same part and heated seat still isn't working, what else could it be? Can hear the blower kick on for 20seconds or so and then hear the replay click off. Cooled seat had worked entire time. Just heated option won't work, even after replacing this part.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

We wld have 2 go over it

[@robvia2142]

My 2017 lariat f250 has an issue not cooling or heating bottom seat part. I can hear the fan running but no air flows thru. Wondering it could be the seat cushion needs replacing. Side part nearest the door is squashed quite a bit.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Ehhh cld b

[@robertviafranco2142]

@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod I have a forscan, will that be of any use to find the issue? And what would it be under on Forscan?

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Yes ud have 2 pull code

[@robertviafranco2142]

@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod ok ill check it out thank you sir. Appreciate the reply

[@tristinwaldron5249]

I’m having a problem with my 2017 F250 driver and passenger ac and heated seats, all the lights come on and you can hear the fan but nothing happens as far as temp is concerned. I’ve checked the pins in the connections to the scme module and no burnt grounds or anything. That being said I’m curious if the module itself is bad of if both teds or elements are bad in the seats. Any insight anyone could give would be incredibly helpful! Thanks in advance! Also, where can I get this software? Thanks!

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

For this repair, you HAVE to have a scan tool & not 1 that just pulls codes. It is Ford IDS

[@tristinwaldron5249]

@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod have you seen a problem like I described? Just curious if you’ve ever seen a scme module go bad and what that looks like.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

It cld be that or what you saw in this video

[@chekelley6861]

So to cool it just blows ambient air from under the seat, into the seat back itself?

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Yepp

[@chekelley6861]

PowerStroke Tech Talk w/ARod pretty sweet! Thanks!

[@johnw1929]

I have a 2018 F350 Lariat super duty and my driver seat electric movement controls on the side stopped working. Heated and cooled functions still work great but my seat is now locked in its position with no ability to recline or go back and forward. Any idea what caused the controls to randomly stop working? Would greatly appreciate some insight would hate to go get ripped off at the dealer for something that might be as simple as a fuze!!

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Right a fuse, but what caused it to blow. Id have 2 look at it...

[@johnw1929]

@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod My seat cushion is very worn out with limited cushion. I was assuming I might of damaged something underneath the seat from my 220lb ass bouncing up and down with no cushion lol. Is there a common part underneath that could be damaged from this kind of wear and tear?! Thank you for getting back to me brother you’re the man

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

@johnw1929 My advice would be to pull the seat out and remove the cushion. And see what? Why are you pinched

[@petya0980]

I got a 17 mustang, passenger side stopped working , popular issue is the ground pin having too much current but mine looked clean, I replaced the heated control module and same thing, issue was still there , the relay clicks when I turn on the heated seats and after about a minute it stops working on just passenger side , even though button on center console is still lit up, I can tell it isn’t doing anything. Does this sound like same issue ? Any way to diagnose if it is the back or seat cushion that’s faulty?

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Need to have the computer on it!

[@petya0980]

@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod to diagnose it ?

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Yes, u see that computer i was using.......u need that to diagnose....do u agree??

[@petya0980]

@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod I got a OBD cable I used for Forscan , but I don’t think that’s what you are using.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

No pal. U need to have IDS & the proper pinpoint test to diagnose it, unless you wanna shooot the parts cannon @ it...

[@boob24]

where did you buy the TED?

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

I work a the dealer.........

[@WaterandWoodsmen]

My dream truck white 2017-F250 Lariat

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

I wanna 2020 King Ranch

[@stephenrobertson2397]

Does that also control the cold side to?

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

No

[@philmcwain6182]

Are the parts for both the bottom blower and lumbar blower the same? Both of mine have went out on the passenger side

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Same part, different part number

[@philmcwain6182]

Is it DUSZ-19N550-F - upper DUSZ-19N550-D - lower?

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

I dunno im not at my computer

[@philmcwain6182]

Would you mind looking when you get a chance? The local dealer is no good here. 2017 F250 King Ranch

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Sorry pal youll have to email us...

[@joshladd4860]

Both my driver and passenger seat have a fault and do this safe to say this is the issue?

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

No, go look under ur seat, front passenger. Probably have a melted connector

[@johnfarr1155]

Looking for your opinion on my situation. Sounds similar to this diagnosis/video but before I go buying parts wanted your $0.02. I do not have the diagnostic tools/software you have access to. 2018 F350 Lariat with heated and cooled Driver/Pass buckets with buttons on certain console under climate control panel. Truck has about 67K miles on it. Pass side seems to work fine. Driver side will both heat or cool will activate, I hear the relay "click" and the fan start up, then another "click" happens and fan goes off by itself, button for driver side stays on/lit. Will stay that way until I shut off truck and let it sit a bit. Upon restarting truck it will do the same thing and click/kick off fan again with button still lit, usually within 60-90 seconds at most. Thoughts? I wondered if it might just be a connection issue as the fan seems to start up then shut off. HOwever, the fan sounds 'weaker' than the passenger side when it does start. Also on one occasion i was behind driver seat and had my son activate it after truck had been off for a while, it did the same thing and heard a click and fan shut off, then I tapped on part of assembly that I could reach from behind/under driver seat and fab "bumped" back on briefly then shut off again in like 10 seconds.....? Thanks for any guidance/input. I feel like I can tackle this with your video help, but am a bit befuddled on where to start: Control Module? driver side blower/fan assembly? just checking all connections and maybe putting some dielectric grease in all of them?

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

I'd start with what u saw here for sure. The TED us probably over heating

[@johnfarr1155]

@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod went out and tried again this morning same thing heater will click and kick on on the driver side and run for no more than 90 seconds tops and both fans shut off the one in the back of the seat and the one under the seat. Shut the truck off went inside a lunch and started it up again and ran the cooling function while running errands it ran the whole time without shutting off on all three fan settings. Sounds like there's something wrong with the electric heating element in the driver side Ted I will start there Thank you!!!

[@christiandavis3910]

When you turn the heated or vent on, you hear a click usually. Mine recently stopped doing that and won’t get hot. Care to help me with an idea of what’s wrong?

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

We would have to hook a scan tool up and do some diagnosis

[@christiandavis3910]

@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod copy that. I did get a dtc on my ez lync. U024B

[@Thamac15]

Wow, that owner obviously doesn’t take care of their leather seats. Good grief that’s some neglected leather.

[@jloren314]

That’s a hand’s truck

[@VIP854]

So the issue I'm seeing is when I push the cooled seat option it doesn't illuminate or do anything and it's not a physical switch it's up on the digital screen. When I hit the heated seat option it only goes to mid and low does not go to high.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Yup

[@VIP854]

@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod okay so changing this thing out would solve that problem you believe?

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Gotta follow the proper pin point test

[@VIP854]

@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod ok thanks

[@peepeepoopoo69420]

How did you find parts

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

My parts department...

[@bartcorbett5969]

Hey i had this part diagnosed as the problem i installed a new one and still no heat! Any ideas?

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

🤷‍♂️

[@bartcorbett5969]

@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod dang i just checked the fuse too back to drawing board i guess ill have to borrow a code scanner again

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Yes sir

[@brucestover4370]

What was the price of the part neither one of mine are working

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Gosh i dont remember

[@williamhighland4868]

How long did the job take

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

For me or you....

[@williamhighland4868]

@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod The reason I’m asking you is because I have already dropped my truck off twice to get it fixed and I still haven’t done it correctly it looks pretty easy the way that you did it

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Gravyy

[@sheldonrobbins9301]

How do you get to the temp data logger on ids?

[@sheldonrobbins9301]

Trying to test my heated seat temps to verify I need this same part. No heat on drivers seat

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Gotta goto data logger

[@sheldonrobbins9301]

I did then clicked on climate control but I can't find anything even close to the pids you have up

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Gotta get that pinpoint test brother

[@sheldonrobbins9301]

Whats the pinpoint test?

[@hellrazer4565t]

I need that computer software

[@nathanwalter3918]

Have you tried Forscan? It's not exactly the same software but it can do the tests and check the pids he did in the vid. And it's free..

[@MrT-hk9wn]

FYI Ford extended warranty does not cover this issue >:[

[@MrT-hk9wn]

$2000 fix on a King Ranch

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Bummer....

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Were they claiming it under your Premium Care contract.....?

[@MrT-hk9wn]

PowerStroke Tech Talk w/ARod Yes. I paid 4K for the extended warranty. I’m going to protest this. The passenger seat failed and its rarely used.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Dang man sorry to hear that

[@gwhunter07]

So my 2012 actually blew cold air in the seat back. My 17 I bought used and it doesn't seem to blow very cold air. Does the AC not plumb into the seat back? Whats different in the 12 vs 17?

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

The a/c part is nust the fan comin on blow air through that monolith mesh thingy....i wonder what ya got goin on?

[@gwhunter07]

So I'm assuming the seat heater and AC use the same fan. The seat heaters work pretty good. So that is weird. Might be that the fan is only receiving input from the heat side.