174-inch Mountain Sled Shootout

[@zebthomas3130]

Snowtrax television-brought to you by Polaris

[@jokris0755]

ikr they sound and most likely are as biased as they can be

[@leeanderson5955]

This year's Polaris, last year's Summit. should have brought the G4, the total square inch on the 16 165 is on par with the 15 174.

[@SummitAggregates]

Interestingly, I bought a T3 174 in '16, the spring order only X package... and this year put it up with a good friend's RMK 174...both of us riding in the famous Rabbit Ears area in Colorado, and both of us being fiercely loyal to our machines, I love my T3 174, and my friend who was all mouth about how incredible the RMK 174 is... after having both sleds out in the deep, he now wants my T3 174 and is trading his RMK on the '18 G4 175...actions speak louder than words - thanks to my T3 174!!

[@guywholikescheese97]

I'm just really excited to see how the 850 does... it's just too new for me to make a name for itself. I really wanna see it be successful so I can pick it up under 10k one day...

[@tedt6453]

the front end of the summit lifts better so it has better suspension?

[@u.s.angler7494]

Depends on what your looking for.

[@briannorton1301]

"Feels like more power." Is that Polaris talk for trying to finally reach Rotax's power level? Come on!

[@gabrielgaudreault3832]

that's a joke, polaris and durability are 2 words they do not match

[@wankel84]

I have actually seen more ac and brp sleds down then polaris, guess it depends on the rider. Some people maybe shouldn`t have a sled..

[@gabrielgaudreault3832]

wankel good for u, in my country popo 800's blowns around 3-4000km and lower

[@trevorwarner6087]

Gabriel Gaudreault amen

[@Boomax-rr5fk]

lmao, my uncle's polaris got run into by an idiot riding a Ski Doo, his sled was fine and the Ski-Doo's panels and shit flew everywhere... guess it depends on the model.

[@inlinesick]

hoo really! LOL

[@salmonreaper9076]

I've ridden both in 155. The summit is a little easier to throw around than the rmk, but the rmk is more predictable. That factor was the deal for me. Both are easy to ride, but I knew what the axys was going to do whereas the summit was catching me off guard a lot.

[@griffoutdoortv5882]

should've included the gen 4 and the doo would have knocked the polaris out of the water

[@snowtrax]

Not available in the 174 yet.

[@2wheels4life27]

SnowTrax Television even in the xm chassis the summit is better u guys just are bias as fuck and like polaris , you say ur not but the bullshit coming out of ur mouth is obvious.

[@ChuckBeefOG]

Cole Griffiths Ha. Maybe when doo looses 80 lbs.

[@rugbynitro]

Sure it would, as long as you buy the bulkhead reinforcement kit for the G4. Crappy instrumentation, lots of blown belts, and a lot of unhappy owners on the forums. Drink the Doolaid all you want, I'm not drinking......

[@gabepost2855]

Got to remember the ski doo has a wider track and more horse power

[@silverlakerider125]

OMFG, every video you guys post is nothing but a Polaris Fan Boi love fest! Snow Trax is no longer a viable source for objective viewpoints.

[@user-tz6rk4dy5s]

Silverlakerider I think that's cause they get a kickback from Polaris... They basically get paid by Polaris to talk up Polaris... Isn't that called a bribe?

[@silverlakerider125]

Hence the reason I can't take their videos serious anymore, they've lost credibility.

[@user-tz6rk4dy5s]

Silverlakerider I hear ya!

[@jmccomish2416]

Polaris is just the best thats all

[@perforator1609]

How can you say that the extra weight for the T-motion isn't worth it but then say its handles better. I used to like this channel because they seemed to be unbiased. I know now this is no longer the case.

[@Speedslays]

g4 850 175. look it up.

[@erikletham4944]

Seen so many polaris sleds blow up without much effort dont see many brp summits doing that

[@moose5.9]

why not review the g4?

[@davidrochon5347]

Chris Pastuf Watch the end of the video. They said the gen4 is not avaible in 174 for 2017

[@jbruce2062]

Honestly never riden a mountain sled. But have ridden other stuff. I have a question. So the skidoo doesn't have as much power because it push around 160 at sea level and the polaris push 100-165? Also wouldn't the front end lifting up have to do directly with power? More power the easier it wheelies? Expecially when it isn't lighter?

[@cthom5190]

Jacob Bruce Coming from a mountain rider... this is a completely biased review of both Sleds and coming from somebody that has rode both the Skidoo and Polaris 174's in the mountains a lot. The Skidoo defiantly has more power and it may have to do with the setup of the machine. It also feels lighter then the Polaris. The Skidoo is more fun to ride and may have its quirks but we have had to 174 skidoos since 15 and haven't changed a belt yet. Haven't had any problems with it never bent a bulkhead like they claim or even an a-arm for that matter it's a flat out lie what there telling you on the durability side of things. We've have a 174 Polaris since the spring of last year as Polaris sent us a demo sled and we've bent a total of 5 a-arms. Broken the carbon fiber bumper off in powder climbing a hill and coming over backwards. And we also took a belt at a little over 100 miles. So take it as you will.

[@jbruce2062]

RLC This is an honest thank you. Not sarcastic. But thanks. cause I've personally thought that it was mainly power. I do realize though that rear suspension does play a factor but didn't even know about coupled and uncoupled suspension.

[@riderguy327]

When it gets steep you want the front end to stay low and controllable... whats that have to do with the suspension? Also... characteristics like that can be tuned!!

[@derekgoulet572]

Have you ever done a video where polaris doesn't win ?

[@johnshimkus8939]

Planning on buying a new summit SP 154 850 etec, it'll be my first mountain sled. My passion is the mountains, what is you're honest opinion on this sled?

[@marcuslane5481]

John Shimkus have fun buying belts

[@EthanAdey]

It has a $10 roller pin in the clutch, brake after 500KM

[@devinailport680]

From my experience riding the axys rmk and the ski doo xm. The xm feels like it has way more power than the rmk.

[@gabepost2855]

That’s cause it dose

[@user-tz6rk4dy5s]

Ya... Polaris durable... Any body who has ridden a Polaris and a Skidoo knows there is no comparison between the two in durability, skidoo takes it hands down!

[@inlinesick]

J Field haha lofl !! Far from the reality!

[@binbandit11]

Yep...they did the same thing with the cam am vs razor...

[@holdenbrown4114]

Does Polaris always win?

[@pjakk84]

no

[@2wheels4life27]

Holden Brown yes lol with snotrax polaris always wins no matter what , they make it seem like they like ski doo and give it a few points but thats just to make it seem like their not biased but yet they are and watching these videos os a waste of time because i know the polaris is going to win before i even watch them.

[@fishnfreak04]

Yes....... only the best of the best....... seriously

[@LifeRunner4000]

No. However it is hilariously good! Tried out a 174" 850 Pro RMK with the 3" 7 Series track today. Amazing machine, it's pretty nimble considering it's a 174.

[@sethbreitweser1261]

Well they are good snowmobiles, I don't think they accel in every aspect but overall very good machines

[@98dodge360v8]

Have any of you watched some of there older videos? They were all about the yamaha. They also make the disclaimer that all the sleds are so close that this is just their opinion.

[@Lundingen]

A Summit is both more powerfull and more rugged than the Pro RMK

[@rugbynitro]

Haha! That's why Ski-Doo just came out with a new bulkhead reinforcement kit for the G4. Wow, that's rugged......

[@Lundingen]

rugbynitro Still tougher than a Pro RMK

[@rugbynitro]

Great comeback....lol. Keep your blinders on.

[@megcroft9236]

Snoopy false

[@Lundingen]

Meg Croft On what?

[@gabepost2855]

The ski doo has a wider track and more horse power

[@garretblanton1233]

They are Polaris guys I have rode both rmk is better but skidoo has more power and way more balanced

[@shanebrown2963]

These guys are always for Polaris if you watch their shows. I'd take a doo any day over a Polaris. I know a lot of guys who got rid of their pros and went with skidoo. Weight isn't everything when it comes to a sled and that's all the Polaris has over doo.

[@kentchan2709]

So why would you take a brand new Polaris and a year old Ski-Doo and see whats the best. I hope the new one wins. Do some even comparisons.

[@homeboiz19yee]

what about the skidoo 850 engine?

[@paulyarek]

Yes the Polaris only changed one thing and that is everything and the year before completely different same as the year before. The Lester must own a Polaris dealership

[@SL-ix4yk]

As soon as you said the Polaris has more power than the ski Doo, yup Polaris paid you a lot to put this vid out, I’ve ridden both sled and wow the RMK feels like your rideing a lumber wagon, the summit may have some structure problems but a couple simple bolt ones built by aftermarket company’s makes them nice and rigid, oh and not to mention when you get out in sticky snow the RMK picks up well over 100lbs in snow where as the summit only was picking up like 70-80lbs of snow. Sorry but I’m real world where we all have to start off at the same level and not paid to promote a specific sled the summit has more than its given here.

[@thestanchfielders8098]

Engine power but not power to the ground not to mention your risking a blown motor every time you ride it

[@nsa6790]

Isaiah wessel That’s a polaris for ya. Blown motor every time u ride

[@superduty2011]

don't diss BRP's reasoning they have this market and every other market they are involved in mastered!!! Polaris is just 2nd like always..

[@drewcroft6824]

superduty2011 in trail sleds bro is leading the market Polaris owns the mountain market by a long shot

[@nsa6790]

Drew Croft Not anymore

[@hellhound2275]

Summit better handle- come in guys on what drugs your are? Summit has less weight on front- are you really ride them? Summit even G4 not that good in handle as axys- i am telling as owner of both sleds It doesn't mean summit bad - he is not that good as Axys in all yiur point. g4 good in power- in rest- no but it on my opinion Rear suspension of summit- they not even have proper springs on...

[@Inspector694]

Hellhound 22 I think I understood what you said. Go poo!

[@ERVDSR]

doubt you own any of them

[@stevehinsverk8105]

You say you own 2 10,000 dollar snowmobiles and you cant even put together a sentence.

[@jimbeck3038]

Polaris financed video

[@WilliamStewart1]

I really don't understand the purpose of a 174" track being powered by an 800 2 stroke? It's not like you get the track speed to run big chutes effectively? You're also giving up a good deal of mobility in the trees, I'm at a loss here....

[@tysonj4688]

174" track works better in the trees. Much better floatation/ traction for mtn riding. The shorter tracked machines feel underpowered in deep snow even with same chassis and engine after riding the 174. Its all about traction you are able to put more power to the snow as well as climb up on the snow better. Although the new G4 850 165" is even better than an 800 174" that's because of better power to weight and rumor is the 2018 850 will be available in 174" which will be an animal

[@WilliamStewart1]

Tyson James Call me crazy but I never once felt like the 163+ tracked sleds felt better in the trees than a 153" or even a Freeride 146, the turn better in my opinion and tip easier. Yes the lack of flotation means you need to carry more momentum, but it's a small tradeoff no? I understand a 174" if say you've got a turbo Yami and run big chutes, but I honestly can't see a sub 100hp (elevation) 800 2 puff being all that good at chutes.

[@tysonj4688]

I guess its all how you like to ride and what terrain your in. Where I ride when there is deep powder you go places you simply cannot go on short track sleds I'm talking thick trees and steep slope, occasionally hopping over logs etc. The way they gear the Ski Doo 174 combined with the amount of traction makes it plenty powerful and its more like 125 hp at 10,000 feet. I also have a turbo Cat M8 162 and it takes 8+ pounds of boost to make it run with the 174. I will say that in the late spring when the snow sets up and turns to crap the shorter tracks are more exciting to ride

[@WilliamStewart1]

Tyson James Yeah I guess that's where we differ, I don't really ride dense forest and much slope at the same time (it's either one or the other). I'm still fairly new to mountain riding which is why I have the questions ha ha. Just from my own personal trails I've found the 800's to be a little soft on power (I ride a turbo Yami) and just couldn't see them being capable of getting a whole lot of track speed with a big 174" track. I'm spoiled with power, but not with agility thanks to my sled being fairly heavy, I just couldn't imagine my sled being fun in the trees with an even heavier setup and more track to have to turn.

[@rosskeene1913]

ridden both aaxys and summit X 154. the total is better more powerful motor. starts better and runs better. that's the column I do not agree with

[@WilliamStewart1]

Ross Keene You're saying the E-tec doesn't run better?

[@rosskeene1913]

William Stewart I'm saying the etec runs better. Something funny happened with the autocorrect.

[@WilliamStewart1]

Ross Keene Ahh no worries, and yes I agree, no other two strokes are as smooty running as the etecs, very efficient engines. I just wished they didn't have that dopey sealed bottom end, at least the new 850 addressed this.

[@rosskeene1913]

William Stewart they went through and basically gave a 2-stroke the longevity of a 4-stroke using diesel technology and design. the axys in some cases would feel like it had more power but I think it much more do to the lightness than the engine. in the end I bought a 14 summit X 154 and am very happy I did that instead of the axys

[@WilliamStewart1]

Ross Keene Yes the lack of weight on the RMKs is impressive, but they also hold the most snow while riding bringing them up there with the others anyways. The "cheap " tradeoff isn't worth it in my opinion, the Doos just feel better built in my opinion.

[@user-qw3wh5fy4n]

i'd have to disagree with you, the skidoo clearly is the better snowmobile in terms of everything but durability.

[@welderteach]

Be nice to see a shoot out where all the manufacturers were represented!!!!For someone looking to make a purchase, there are other choices than doo or po... just sayin

[@snowtrax]

Would be great to do a shootout brown all 4, but only two making a 174 at the moment.

[@the_everything_channel1233]

Skidoo all the way

[@Simon-xd8id]

Y’all like Polaris more so y’all shall not be comparing brp to your trash that you got

[@2007dalin]

the polaris doesn't even have float shocks.. your shitting me that its built well if its that light and thier not even trying lol.. every polaris i have seen is built cheap

[@jamesmay5911]

That was the most bias video I've ever seen.

[@kayteeemm45]

I know and do they not read the comments in their videos ? they just keep making videos that its so obvious they love polaris and are going to keep losing subs, I cant even believe ski doo sponsors them so that they can lie to viewers and bash ski doo, ski doo needs to say fuck u and have nothing to do with these clowns. subscribe for more great content lol that's a joke. and this Luke lester fat fuck is the worst of them all hes the one who makes it more then obvious he loves polaris , dumbass sucks at riding.

[@paffilaatikko5389]

But summit is a skidoo

[@mackenziecampeau9257]

Summit hos more power dont be ridiculous

[@jcole8297]

Y Polaris always win

[@rowdytillwedie]

first comment fuck yeah!!!

[@tdelam]

Unsubbed, while I like Polaris a lot, everything I watch on this channel is Polaris fan boy stuff. Would prefer to watch some actual honest comparisons... I just finished watching your Secret Boondocking video where you said your XRS 800 with an 1.5" track struggled and couldn't cut it but you changed to a Polaris 600 trail sled and it made a "world of difference", give me a break!! That 600 has nothing on that 800 XRS 137" you had!

[@kayteeemm45]

exactly! I hate these guys

[@fishnfreak04]

Polaris wins again....... cuz it’s simply the best

[@nsa6790]

Fishnfreak04 the best.... at lining their pockets with money

[@dylanreijonen5948]

2nd

[@ceejay8393]

3rd