(1846) Electrical Safety Lockout

[@gedd6750]

I've installed 100's of these, they are nearly always used to isolate a piece of machinery as part of a Lock Off Tag Out routine (LOTO) and the keys held securely and separate from the machine so it can be worked on safely, also fitted to machinery guards so if the guard is opened the machine stops. Nice pick Bill.

[@CHZMN1]

I've always heard it as "Lock Out Tag Out". I'm not experienced with this by any means, just wondering at the difference. Yours makes more sense though 😂

[@TheChipmunk2008]

@@CHZMN1 I have heard both, worked in the UK and USA... In the UK it's always lockout tagout, but in the USA it seems to vary by region. Canada is unknown. The lock OUT came from the concept of locking people out of the switchroom in older factories, I believe

[@TrevorDennis100]

I was on a coarse once with a maintenance from the Ford UK body plant at Dagenham. He told me that he had a job checking belt tension on one of the HUGE body panel presses. When I say those presses were huge, I mean that to check the belt tension he had to climb onto the lower pully (which had something like a dozen belts) with the upper pully above his head. He'd obviously locked it out with his own padlock and danger tag. He said he finished the job and had just got off the machine (I should add that the pullies were below floor level) when the press started up! Some twat of a foreman had cut the lock off because he didn't like the down time. It sounds too incredible, but this person swears it happened.

[@gedd6750]

@@TrevorDennis100 I had the same thing, I was rebuilding a 3 phase gas compressor on a biogas plant ,I literally had put the last wire back on the motor and the compressor started ,the engineering director had cut my padlock off because the client had complained about the down time. We had words where I explained the danger of what he had done and he went the A&E to get some stitches after walking into a door on the way out of the control room.

[@TrevorDennis100]

@@gedd6750 It's incredible how stupid people can be when you consider the danger involved. Those lock-outs are literally life and death sometimes. I assume there was no comeback after the door/eye interface situation?

[@yanmay9824]

The 2 screws on the front holding the lock in place are exactly the same as the screws holding the light switches to the wall in many UK prisons ( well they were 20 something years ago when I was last inside). It was a fun little exercise making a tool to undo them that didn't bend the little pin in the centre or scuff the surface in any way so as not to let it look like it had been tampered with, made for a handy stash point for a little pot. Though you still needed to rub in some camouflaging paste ( a mix of toothpaste, ash and dirt ) to make it realy look like it hadn't been touched in ages. Use to use a similar mix to hide the 2 strands of wire coming from the light to the radio so I didn't have to pay for batteries ( before they started letting us have things like TVs in our cells). Had to score a couple of tiny channels for the 2 single strands of wire hence the need for the camouflaging paste to hide them. Lol it's funny the things that trigger memories of the stuff we use to get up to. Ah the good old days when I were a lad ( jk) it was definitely not good days it's days I am far from proud of but it's still fascinating some of the ingenious things people come up with when locked up. A read of pretty much any POW story will prove that. The things they came up with in colditz during wwii are astounding from hiding places to constructing a glider in a hidden room. The glider was as never flown as the prison was liberated before it was completely ready but a team reconstructed it and tested it ( without a crew) in 2012 proving that it would have worked. The glider was made out of bed sheets and porage showing as I say the amazing ingenuity of those locked up.

[@kevinheaton1653]

wicked lock. would make a cool computer power button

[@mattfleming86]

I agree! That would be a cool lock cylinder for anything "stylistic" it just looks cool as hell. The SCARY part here is that it's an industrial lock and the tools to pick it are an offset screwdriver and a punch.

[@karnalunea1122]

I think that would make a amazing build, maybe some weaker springs, but amazing with the industrial look. An regarding the tools needed, i think it keeps the honest people out. The other people most likely dont belong there. If it is on some piece of equipment it most likely is there to prevent untrained people from just using that equipment. It may even be for maintenance, would be bad if the power is on when you are upside down in the machine. And if they see the key in the switch they may know someone is working on the machine. The possibilities are many.

[@Murgoh]

@@karnalunea1122 Yup, these things are not designed for pick resistance. On the other hand they must be very secure against operation with the wrong key, even when worm, as they are meant to protect against accidental, not intentional, activation when someone is working on the machine. If someone willingly wanted to activate things without permission they could just unscrew the cover and turn the cam with a screwdriver or something anyway. I think the locks can be made with the pins spaced differently around the circumference (they are not evenly spaced) which will do nothing for pick resistance but would be very effective in preventing the lock from being operated with the wrong key. The "blade" in the center of the key might also be shaped differently for different keys which would prevent the wrong key from even being inserted in the lock.

[@foxman8344]

@@mattfleming86 It's not too scary considering the intended purpose of these is to just prevent accidentally turning on or off a machine that could cause damage to machinery or people. It's not really to keep people out. Their primary purpose is to keep people from getting killed due to inattentiveness. A mechanic comes in, takes the key out while he's working on the machine so a worker doesn't come back from lunch and turn him into paste kind of thing.

[@asten8049]

Keeps the pr0n stash safe

[@William_Borgeson]

I had the volume up when you started yelling and everyone in my office thought it was me, thanks Bill :)

[@lukebosch28]

I've used these keys on so many machines. One was " none operational if key removed " and that was on a machine here in the UK. If you went into that crushing machine, you took that god dam key with ya !!.

[@John-lx8iu]

6:20 Bill: "We're not going to be taking that lock apart..." Everyone on KZbin: "What about those 2 screws on the front?"

[@itemushmush]

take it apart billy boy

[@sebastiand152]

Probably only decoration.

[@JimFortune]

I thought that too, but then thought it probably just holds the lock onto the case.

[@rsswaffar]

The fake electric shock at the end...such a dork. Haha. Love it.

[@shadowdragon6524]

During my 30 years in manufacturing - electromechanical assembly - I have seen many of these but not tubular type. Thanks for showing this to us.

[@gtbarsi1103]

That would make a cool light switch for the locklab.

[@chadstoudt2580]

We have those locks at work. You unlock it and take the key out before you enter the machine to prevent accidents. Awesome video

[@TheChipmunk2008]

Huge locks like this are a good illustration of what you mean when you say overset, solid click etc, for beginners.

[@mattfleming86]

I mentioned this in a comment thread but I can't stop thinking about it. Industrial lockout- like "tommy is down in the woodchipper - disable it" kind of lockout. The tools to pick it: Offset screwdriver and a punch/pen knife/tiny screwdriver. You should give it a shot with "maintenance" tools :-)

[@karnalunea1122]

That sounds like a Fun experiment.

[@chasekehler]

Nice pick! I've installed these same locks on potash rigs up in Canada. Used for locking the derrick's hydraulic controls.

[@ETengineer]

i guess the "claw" arm is not deliberately a part of the locking mechanism, but when pushed in and turned, it has to slide under a ridge, to actually retain the key

[@Firecul]

Happy retirement Bill. Thanks for all the videos over the years.

[@jonathanbott87]

Perfect example of where high security / pick proof isn't critical - just need to stop an average person But honestly, that lever really stepped up the pick resistance nicely for a dimple lock

[@roysammons2445]

Big and beefy... yes indeed it's industrial. Nicely done Bill and what a shocker at the end ; )

[@tom23rd]

I was just starting to yell at the screen, when Bill came back and opened the switch box. Well played sir.

[@thesecondguyontheinternet]

This is an electrical isolation łock, where the key is used to turn off, rather than on. This is an older type of isolation. These days the isolation is a long tab where a loto type lock is used with a hasp

[@twjohnson1203]

_Common Screwdriver stars in latest Bosnian Bill video!_ The Common Screwdriver was superb in the role normally reserved for a more highly specialized pick. Could it be a star is born? The actor in the supporting role of Bosnian Bill however could use more experience, best gained in local stock theater.

[@badjuju6563]

The screwdriver has a full time job already... well 2 actually: 1. stabbing open grease cartriges 2. stabbing ones self due to poor execution of use 1.

[@dogshome7110]

Erwin Sick safety switch. Key in pocket = happy bunny! Crushers, mixers, ball mills, furnaces, electrostatic precipitators, rolling mills, gas compressors, power presses. Been there, designed and fitted safety circuits to them. Ball mills are particularly nasty. Get trapped inside? No evidence. Get trapped in the pen on the outside? Carrie meets Hammer Horror.

[@vagnhenning]

So, if you really want to start the trash compacter while your colleague is inside of it trying to move some junk that's got stuck, this is how you override the safety. Nice.

[@scrappysgarage7404]

Lmao

[@AlbertLebel]

Nice work Bill. There's just something cool about this industrial sized stuff.

[@randolphsmith903]

So long and thank you for all this knowledge. Many happy days to you and your family.

[@RWBHere]

Waldkirch (in Breisgau, Black Forest) is famous for mechanical musical instruments. An interesting lock, needing strength, as well as skill, to defeat it. Thanks Bill.

[@cumberland1234]

I’ve seen them used a lot in industry, they can be used where the key is taken out of the electrical switch (killing the machine) and the key is the put into another retaining lock thus allowing access to parts of the machine. The key is only removable from the 2nd lock when the access gate etc is closed thus stopping someone getting squished. I’ve seen many varieties of them, some with solenoids on the electrical side so the key can only be removed when the safety electrical system is healthy, systems where you put one key in and have multiple slave keys all of which have to be returned before the main key can be withdrawn, locks with sliding bolts on the side so the bolt has to be in before allowing the key to be released. I think the keys are pretty unique hence the keys and locks have to be made to order.

[@johndododoe1411]

I have also seen keyless mechanisms where the switch handle interlocks with the door itself.

[@cumberland1234]

@@johndododoe1411 yep, it is quite common to have isolators built into electrical equipment panel doors so the power has to be turned off before the door can be opened and power can only be restored when the door closed.

[@bradw0535]

Thats right Bill, we save the BIG rocks to throw at you when no attempt to disassemble is made 😂 Always see something new and interesting at the LockLab! Thanks Bill!

[@karnalunea1122]

Looks like you dont have to mess with changing the wiring to change how it opperates, due to the square drive. I am just stating the obvius, i am a bit curious about those switches, if they got the three legs. Inn, open, and closed. Anyway cool lock, and the insides where interesting, not that complicated, bit interesting.

[@darkzeus851]

According to the wiring diagram on the side each of the two switches would have 6 possible wires going to it. Each switch would have two identical circuits with one "input" and two "outputs". When the switch is not active one "output" would be on and the other would be off. When the switch is active the outputs would simultaneously change state. Known as double redundancy.

[@karnalunea1122]

@@darkzeus851 Thank you for taking the time to answering me. I did not see other wires than the the two sticking out of each switch. I was curious ig they followed the usual input, normaly open, and normaly closed. I saw the diagram and did not think more about it than it is a bunch of switches. Should have looked closer on it. Thank you for clarifying it.

[@LeifTheHead]

@@karnalunea1122 To me it looks like modular switch inserts that could be exchanged if you wanted to. Each of those probably only have one single contact inside being either normally open (NO) or normally closed (NC). As you can see at 0:26, there's from left to right an NC, NO, NC, NO. And if you look closely at 6:53, you can notice the differently colored plungers, the front ones being red (=NC) and the back ones being black (=NO). Now, that I looked at it again, I noticed them being Siemens switches. I don't know if these are specific to be soldered to wires like it seems, as I only know those with screw terminals.

[@blarfroer8066]

Sick is mainly known for producing all kinds of laser sensors and related stuff, like light barriers. So I guess it's part of a complete measuring or safety system that you can order from them.

[@PeterNYounger]

The ones I have come across are called Castell interlocks and they are generally paired with a panel/door lock. They stop you from opening an energised machine/risk area. Not there to replace good isolation but an extra safety measure.

[@scotts918]

Dramatic exit, stage Bill

[@michaelboty2346]

Key interlock, there would be another lock keyed alike on a guard if the key is in the switch the door is shut on the machine, you can turn it on. Only one key. Various versions in the UK of these we have giant Tibbe with 5 angles and 8 discs, no false notches though. I have an interesting variation that has 3 KA locks linked to a 4th different lock with a switch on it also. You have to put all 3 KA keys in to turn on and release the 4th key. This assembly has spool drivers and is a git to pick.

[@N0B0DY_SP3C14L]

Nice little Hooligan tensioner! ;)

[@MorellioBenoir]

Ahaha pretending to be electrocuted is the best dad joke. I have absolutely done that to my coworkers long ago.

[@DarleyWare]

Thanks for all the great videos!

[@penfold7800]

Nice addition to your collection of unique locks. It's probably more of a safety power lockout when the key is removed, as it can be opened up with a torx screwdriver, so not a security device. It might even work as a cutout switch for the power sockets in a school science lab. Maybe the numbers are an EU safety standard. I'm surprised there isn't a fuse inside. What happens if you unscrew the two torx screws that hold the lock on to the front?

[@iamnoone8176]

Somehow I knew you were going to grab those wires

[@TrevorDennis100]

ROTFL. I'd say we can add another 'B' making him Bosnian Bill the Bastard as that was a mean trick at the end there. I almost had a heart attack! 😆

[@bradfry5403]

You know ,I know everyone knows ,you are going to take it apart Bill. Look forward to seeing it.

[@jeancerrien3016]

Shocking ending.

[@thumperlockpicking9269]

Great job Mr.Bill love the lock to

[@andytuesday500]

Cool switch must have been fun designing for someone.

[@Twenty-fifthofMay1967]

Another youtube addition to our knowledge base. Regards to yo BB...

[@BD90..]

I like to see new locks. Eventually we will run out of locks to make content on.

[@thalivenom4972]

i come for the picking, i stay for the dad jokes.

[@williamromine5715]

My father worked in a rerefinery, and they used just safety tags. The welder had to get in a man ssize cage to fix one of the blades. He asked the fore man to assign a laborer to guard the safety tag-- he couldn't be seen while in the. Cage. The forman refused saying nobody would touch the switch with the safety tag on it. After the foreman left, the welder welded the door to the room shut while he did the work. Foreman wrote him up, but management supported the welder.

[@thoughtful_criticiser]

Seems like a very secure lock for a safety lock out system.

[@penfold7800]

Not when most electricians and computer technicians always carry a torx set around in thier tool kit.

[@HeathKentucky]

Definitely nice video I've worked and replaced these as industrial electrician alot of machines use them and seen as gate switch as well to keep workers separated from robots machines. Would love to know the price tag on them lol

[@DonzLockz]

That's a neat lock, very different to our lock out switches down here. Either way, you still managed to get electrocuted! Haha😝🇦🇺

[@smlocks4907]

Awesome picking as always bill. Interesting looking lock too. Have a good day dude.

[@vagabond-yj8pn]

Shocking!

[@dirtydurbin3673]

You find those on CNC MACHINES to turn them on or off it’s the main Saftey key

[@gilbertodiaz-castro626]

When will you gut it? I wanna see those monster pins and springs.

[@mfx1]

It's a Sick IE1000, used to use them where I used to work, on a properly designed interlock system pick resistance is no big issue as if the switches are operated out of sequence it should still be detected, the equipment shut down and a fault alarm raised due to the out of sequence operation, they're designed more for robustness and reliability than pick resistance. It's not a simple case of the key being in or out, there will be another station and only when the key is returned to the master station will the machine operate. So Remove key from station A, that kills power to the machine, take key to machine, insert it, that unlocks the machine BUT only if power has been removed otherwise a solenoid prevents operation. Once machine is open key is retained until the door is properly closed and locked again, power is only restored once key is returned to the main station, (there are other topographies as well).

[@363.2McMasters]

Another good video with great information.

[@mc63100]

Idk if it’s possible but can you gut a tubular lock for us I’m curious if it’s as simple as it seems or is there more than meets the eye. I apologize in advance if you already have. Very cool lock application thanks for showing it.

[@js1649]

I know who is receiving this year's Academy Award for Best Actor

[@dandeve]

That was extremely interesting.

[@thk.g00fy]

Just your basic German light switch .. nothing too fancy, Bill... ;-)

[@I_leave_mean_comments]

6:54 I know it's just a video, but my heart seriously skipped a beat there. Lol

[@johndododoe1411]

Anyone trained in electricity instantly saw that it was completely separated from any power source.

[@billsinkins361]

Needs a collab with ElectroBOOM! You pick it while it's energized, then he gets inside and is shocked for real 😂

[@MichaelBerthelsen]

Industrial cut-off. Looks very similar to the maintenance lock-off for a printing press I translated a manual for once. Basically to make sure there's 0 power during cleaning, repair, or other maintenance. You do NOT want a hand or person stuck in a moving printing press... Or anything else industrial, for that matter.

[@pablo1775usmc]

Awesome content. Keep it up!

[@gozzendk]

Thanks for the video 🔑👍

[@Pyrolock]

What a "shocking" ending -- pretty dam funny

[@MrMikekenney120]

Bravo Sir!

[@jaras1969]

That ending.... Learned a thing or two from ElectroBOOM i see????? ;)

[@michaelcassidy5684]

As a safety interlock the disabled position would be with key removed.

[@sebastiand152]

Come on, Bill. Please open the 2 screws as well.

[@TesserId]

Having seen a guy approaching a breaker box to turn on some breakers--while a guy was on a tall ladder working on wiring, I would want the power to be off with the key out, so that I could have that key in my pocket while teetering with wires in my hand at the top of that ladder.

[@TesserId]

Oh, so disappointed with that square socket. Doesn't that mean it could be accidentally mis-configured by opening and re-closing the box wrong? Somebody, please tell me different. (BTW, the wiring diagram does not make it appear that it could be wired either way, but it does control 4 independent leads.)

[@Ostsol]

That looks like the one type of lock you could use a couple of screwdrivers to pick.

[@matthewellisor5835]

I thought that was how you were supposed to start the machine when the idiot working on it took the key with him after his shift. Feature, not a bug.

[@darkzeus851]

@@matthewellisor5835 good way to kill somebody

[@karnalunea1122]

I saw someone else mention it often was used to isolate machines, that would most likely mean service. So the key should be there with the guy upside down in the equipment.

[@netking66]

@@matthewellisor5835 The company or utility needs a proper protocol to deal with lost or misplaced keys. A senior supervisor or manager would be required to authorise any 'bypass'. First response may be to go to employee's home to recover key if possible (if employee is woken up at 3am the employee may not be so forgetful in future. If it had to by bypassed, the supervisor would ensure that everyone is informed of the intention and that temporary warning signs are erected. Employees should not carry the interlock keys - they should be placed in a box or interlock device capable of taking several padlocks so each employee to be protected can apply his own padlock. If a padlock key goes missing, the padlock is easily retired, whereas it would be expensive and time consuming to replace a lost interlock key. One reason they are so large is to help prevent them being bent or damaged.

[@joshuaobelenusable]

Should have went ElectroBOOM at the end and leave it with a string of bleeps

[@stevef.m.2188]

Shocking lee good Thanks

[@sticustom]

I’ve lost count of how many times I’ve used those.

[@donnierobertson3088]

Nice job and video

[@dragade101]

I'm kind of surprised and how voltage the insides look. Seems like you wouldnt want to be switching 240v with this.

[@Pozi_Drive]

it would interrupt the current for the coil of a large relay that powers the machine.

[@johndododoe1411]

Definitely would. The electrical distances inside were typical of 400/230 V systems.

[@TheHungrySlug]

ElectroBoom has joined the chat..

[@karnalunea1122]

Hehe

[@plug4uk696]

That was a shocking performance Lol ;-)

[@idontno0]

"Says safety all over it"... Says safety in one spot.

[@bosnianbill]

Just like Ferrarri has “fast” and a hummer has “small penis” written all over it. It isn’t the WORDS but the appearance...

[@parapicktog7734]

I am a canadian electrician (retired), but I have never seen a lockout like that before, and I would not trust it. It's obvious just by looking at it, that you don't need a key, but can "pick" it quite easily and quick with just 2 screwdrivers. Any equipment I ever worked on is locked out with a padlock at the mcc or a disconnect, or some equipment have a lockable guard that either blocks the on button, or holds.the stop button in. The only other alternative is toggle switches which can be locked out by fastening a locking device on the toggle then using a padlock so the device can't be removed. You can also lock a breaker panel, or use individual breaker locks similar to toggle switch locks. Your best defence is the tag you attach after locking it out, and the threat of beating the living shit out of anyone that tries to remove your lock. (I actually had to do that once. Caught a guy breaking into a locked panel with a crowbar after I got a shock, and wailed on him with a 4" 2x4)

[@johndododoe1411]

As others have commented, this is not "insert key to lock out" but "Remove key to lock out, keep key in pocket while inside". But yes, it is too easy to override with basic picking skills and two screwdrivers.

[@Penjulum]

OMG!!! Will @BosinianBill be back next time? Was this his last voiced-over hands video? We can only STAY TUNED to FIND OUT! x♥x♥x♥x

[@seaniam81]

Happy Retirement

[@shannondavis5536]

lol always get a laugh from ya vids

[@skygh]

Dereliction of disassembly am I wrong? I enjoy Bill's guttings as much as manipulations truth be told.

[@MrJesusHKrist]

It's like I've always said , "The best lock is the one that secures nothing of value" -Me "If it can be locked it can be unlocked" -Also Me "I'm leaving you!" My Ex Wife

[@aserta]

"She's taking your house and dog." Your lawyer.

[@KeylessEntry]

"So how does this make you feel?" Your therapist.

[@XxShantilisxX]

I'll buy it from you if you're finished with it ☺️. Making a rotary welding positioner that could use a cool power disconnect.

[@bosnianbill]

Drop me an email @ bosnianbill1 at gmail.

[@charlesdahmital8095]

Electroboom approved ou-tro.

[@TheButchersbLock]

Why are so many industrial safety locks tubular locks. Very nicely picked Sir👍🇦🇺😊

[@SeanBZA]

Reasonably robust, and thus when full of dirt easy to clean, plus the key itself is very robust, and not easy to break if you accidentally drop it a floor or three. Also harder for some buffoon to hammer in a screwdriver, and use a pair of pliers to operate the lock, when he lost the key.

[@daxter8792]

Guessing the middle part is mostly to make the operator to stick the key in straight.

[@johndododoe1411]

It's also the part actually turning the lock and switch.

[@jamesbuc4336]

Bosnian Electro-Boom?

[@novo1178]

Great videoo and lock. How you are still alive to produce much more videos.......LOL

[@gkeyman565]

Nice Lock and Picking, but Be careful of that WIRELESS Power!, it can really hurt!!! ;)

[@bird718]

iphone intro?

[@Vanta_Blue]

Now imagine if these came with spools.

[@professionalidiots101]

Careful with the the wire........ It is for wireless charging..............🤦‍♂️ To late nevermind 🤣

[@XSpImmaLion]

Nuclear meltdown averted!

[@royae08]

The key to enter Dexter’s Laboratory.

[@michaelking3327]

the ending.....funny as heck!

[@nigozeroichi2501]

Now you know what it would be like to be hit with a shrink ray and have to pick a tubular lock to get free😁 from the evil scientist

[@michaelboty2346]

Your unit is made by Castell.

[@johndododoe1411]

Any relationship to Faber-Castell pencils?

[@michaelboty2346]

@@johndododoe1411 No Castell in UK.