185: Things We've Changed Our Minds About // Birth-Control, Alcohol, Eschatology . . .

[@jordynlopez8974]

My mom died of alcoholism about a year ago, 3 months after my first baby was born (her first grand). She grew up with a catholic lens where drinking is okay. She loves Jesus but ended up using alcohol as a way to cope with stress and it took her life away and robbed us of a lot of good possible memories with our mother. She taught me about Jesus and now I am a seventh day Adventist. Adventist don’t drink as a form of temperance and they keep the sabbath as a day of rest. My relationship with Jesus and rest on the Sabbath is one way I deal with stress. I think you guys made a great decision to not drink alcohol. You will never regret it! You guys are awesome thanks for sharing your walk with the Lord as a family!

[@shevegan4302]

I'm a 7th day Adventist as well! Greetings!

[@KatiePitre1]

As a Catholic, I am very sorry to hear about your mother's struggle with alcohol and will pray for her soul. I would like to clarify that while drinking alcohol in and of itself is not considered sinful in Catholicism, the faith encourages growth in the cardinal virtue of temperance. Drinking to excess where you get drunk is considered a sin, is very much discouraged, and would need to be confessed. Not all Catholics drink alot just because it is permitted as a matter of free will. (See the Catechism of the Catholic Church 1809). God bless!

[@jordynp.2671]

@@KatiePitre1 hi Katie, I am very aware of what Catholics believe and it creates major stumbling blocks for followers in the faith like my mother. It is important to look at the Bible and what the Bible says about drinking and the context. Grape juice without alcohol was called wine in the Hebrew translation. So when the Bible talks about the evil of strong drink it is the context we can look for. Temperance and clinging to Christ. Some people can not simply have temperance if you grew up with an alcoholic parent you would understand the evils of alcohol. The priests of my Catholic Church could be found at the local bar restaurant and would finish off the wine after mass. It creates a stumbling block for believers that have that struggle and as Christian’s we should do nothing that creates a stumbling block to another. The confusion is why many never get over their addiction. Thankfully she accepted Christ in her last years of life, and the Bible says when we are dead we are asleep till Jesus comes so the catholic teaching of praying for the dead souls into heaven is not biblical. Thanks for your input, I grew up in the Catholic Church but found the teachings still left me struggling in sin till I found Christian’s that read the Bible and share their faith and kind works and don’t have lives that conflict with the truth.

[@jordynp.2671]

Also the catholic form of confession is not inline with bible teaching the Bible tells us to call no man father but our father in heaven. Christ is able to intercede for each sinner that comes to him and asks for forgiveness. We need to confess our sins to one another and to Christ but a private confessional with an intermediary priest? Christ is our priest and God is our father.

[@jordynp.2671]

But having said that there are many beautiful catholic people who are living up to the truth as they know it and I’m sure you are one of them! My grandmother is a beautiful catholic who loves Jesus. These are just some struggles I personally found with the church and some peace and freedom I found embracing another church that practices temperance in their baptismal vows as according to their understanding of bible truth. I’m sure there will be many beautiful Catholics in heaven and many beautiful Adventist and many Catholics and Adventists that sadly won’t be there and we will all be surprised! God bless you on your faith journey

[@Rosie_C]

I grew up in a home VERY against alcohol. I drank a tiny bit in my rebel years because my boyfriend/ then husband liked it. I never truly enjoyed it even though some of it was really good, and I definitely never got drunk. But I will never forget being in a place I could not believe I was in, and I was just so disgusted with myself and so convicted that I decided I would never drink a drop of alcohol again in my life. I have kept that vow for over 10 years and do not regret or miss it. I’d rather have the beautiful peace of walking in accord with the Holy Spirit than something that is unnecessary and only pleasing to my flesh. There are so many other things I can consume and enjoy!

[@thetreasureinthefield]

Such a good explanation and testimony.

[@myfavoritethings8093]

I am not against it, but I don't even really want it. It is dehydrating to the body, it makes you thirsty and therefore it can make you want to drink more (hence that is why some people become alcoholics) and it dries up the skin and gives wrinkles. The Bible says that "wine is a mcker." Not sure where might be Proverbs...Oh Here it is. "Wine is a mocker, strong drink is a brawler, and whoever is led astray by it is not wise." (Pr. 20:1) It is not even that healthy. Also, it adds to weight bc it is full of sugar and some wines even have arsenic in it. Yes, arsenic. It adds rolls to your stomach and it is so unnecessary... It has become such an idol to some people bc they think it adds class or makes you cool or interesting. It most ertainly does NOT in my opinion. I can live without it and I HAVE, but if/when I go to the spa, and they offer it, I will take some (very little) and then I ask for water. I am so glad alcohol is not my thing. It is my sisters' thing and they can't live without it. Ugh!

[@suestephan3255]

That is what I have told my grandsons 17-18 you will never regret not taking alcohol.

[@suestephan3255]

My thinking is it is a stimulant at first and if you are wanting to be led by the Spirit don’t take alcohol. You will think better, feel better and like yourself better.

[@alyssaverdi243]

We stopped celebrating Christmas a few years ago and keeping the Biblical Feasts. What a blessing it’s been. I pray you will take another look 🙏🏼🙏🏼 I had a big problem lying to my children about Santa Claus when we are commanded not to lie . There are so many other biblical issues that I found with this holiday . Keep searching, keep praying , keep seeking His kingdom ❤

[@claireschaefer5000]

Nothing is un-Biblical about celebrating the birth of our Lord. Celebrating Christmas doesn’t mean you have to do Santa

[@Lz-cy5gx]

Soteriology was made very clear through me after years of struggling with who is right, when God showed me in the scripture he asks us to believe in Jesus to be saved, not a certain man's interpretation of scripture, and His salvation is available to anyone who will come to Him, which is also very clear in the Scripture.

[@thelottfamily]

i love this kind of conversation. the Lord will continue to reveal things and change our hearts on so many topics. we are not perfect and dont know everything. this is so healthy and i’m so proud there are people who are humble enough to sit and discuss this. I’m so happy to have found your channel. i pray that i can continue to grow closer to the Lord with each video i watch

[@ivanamarcianesi70]

I love your podcast. I just want to share how we celebrate Christmas. We don´t have a christmast tree in our house, we do put the ligths and some decorations, we make the Christmas manger the central piece of the decors. But what I love the most is to have a birthday cake for Jesus, we sing for him, and read the story of his birthday and it keeps our mind in the importance of clelebrating HIM. Thank you for all the insite you share, you are a blessing. greetings from Argentina!

[@MelissaHallHavilah]

Most of the “ quality “ of such conversations that DOESNT happen among our society is bc the “ maturity “ of quality discussions isn’t taught…. Leaving only spaces for Slander of anything and everything … hence where we are in modern day culture. But y’all’s communication style is soooooo refreshing & very becoming.

[@rosie52111]

1 Corinthians 10: 23 All things are lawful for me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but all things edify not. ❤

[@brenx2606]

If people disagree with what someone says, then study the word and see what God is telling you. Thank you, never be afraid to voice your worldview

[@Lunashomestead]

Thank you for talking on these supper important topics, like alcohol in a very non-judgemental way. I grew up with a family the saw/drink alcohol occasionally without major issues, but my 3 adopted kids come from parents with alcohol and other addictions, so we as a family have decided to give up alcohol for the sake of our kids. I pray to God that he gives us the wisdom to be able to guide them through their teenage years to adulthood, so they never have to deal with issues as their biological parents did 🙏

[@paulmartin7053]

I'm also a Christian yfeom I know that god is given me wisdom in my Christian faith and I trust him with that no curse movies that hinders my faith and I have no drop off alcohol only sometimes that also hinders my Christian faith amen together ✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️🙏🌅✝️🔥🇭🇲🇱🇷

[@amotherslittleway]

I have been really enjoying so much your podcast! My family is Catholic Christian and I’m so glad we can relate in Christ amazing love . God bless your marriage & family 🥰🙏🏻

[@saltandfaith]

I’m sorry but Catholicism isn’t Christian at all, it’s pagan. This is coming from someone who grew up catholic and was catholic into adulthood, I studied the catechism and I know what it’s about. It’s very demonic. kzbin.info/www/bejne/b36WXpivl9FknbM

[@kendalecheverria8542]

So interesting seeing God do quite the holiness work in the body! Seeing believers all over the world, including my family, go deeper into theological study & respond to it through the work of the Holy Spirit. Praise the Lord 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻

[@jkweddings]

This is so refreshing! You get it! We’re all Heavenly Fathers children, we’re all born into different circumstances throughout the world. Our journey back to Him will be unique to each of us but we may have the same goal and aspirations of living with Him again. Like you said there’s so much to learn but we need to unite and celebrate our similarities instead of all this division. The adversary wants us to be divided, God wants unity. We’re not just on earth to save ourselves but to bring as many of Gods children to enjoy those same blessings. This life is so very short compared to eternity. I love the multi-generational perspective, that’s realistic. Thank you!

[@mountainmama7155]

The Lord led my husband and I to let Him decide our family size. My first babies were pretty close together,but as I've grown older,they have been spaced further apart. We have 11 at this point. I have no idea if I even can have anymore babies. I'm 40 now,so who knows. My babies have come over 2 years apart in more recent years. My mom didn't even have another period after 40.

[@christaalbrecht67]

And I say, thank the lord for birth control! What a life it would be if I could not have control of my body and pleasure.

[@lelaninelson7200]

It’s not the Lord giving you 11 kids it’s just the natural consequence of having sex. Not everyone can afford to have 11 kids or want to and that’s okay. Stop making something that isn’t a spiritual issue a spiritual issue. God is logical does he want someone to have 10 kids when they can’t put dinner in the table? This hyper literal fundamentalist way of viewing sex is so ignorant and putting people in bondage. If you see an unbeliever and kept having sex without contraception you’d still have 11 kids stop making it a God thing and stop pushing anti contraception nonsense towards the body of Christ. God will rebuke those that have kept having more and more kids that struggle to provide or meet the emotional needs of each child.

[@wendymtzc]

⁠​⁠@@lelaninelson7200it is a spiritual matter since it is God who tells his children to be fruitful and multiply but He does not force anyone to do so, at the end of the day it’s a personal conviction and there’s absolutely anything wrong with letting God determine the size of your family, stop limiting God just because most Christians want to take the easier road

[@bethanyryan404]

I love how you guys have made space for people who have changed in their thoughts and beliefs about certain things. I agree with Katie that there needs to be way more openness to have discussions like these among Christians. I’ve change drastically how I read scripture over the last 10years. I’m embarrassed by how I have used and read it in the past now having the knowledge that I do today. I think people are afraid to admit change of belief because if you can change your mind about one thing you can change your mind about anything. A lot of Christians are afraid to face those questions either out of fear of judgment from peers or fear of judgment from God. Good on you guys for starting a discussion like this. 👍🏼

[@buffalolifesavers]

Hi, guys! Love your podcast & how you bring us into your journey of examining what God's Word has to say about these subjects. I especially liked your perspective on living multi-generationally. I'm going to be thinking more about that. As a mom of 7 ages 15 to 4 with a home business, I have been through hard & overwhelming seasons, too. I would encourage you to take that multi-generational mindset & apply it to God's timing for when to welcome children. If you believe as His Word says that He opens & closes the womb, then there is freedom in trusting His timing of when to send babies. He is never early & He never makes a mistake. It may be an overwhelming season at this time to have another baby, but that same baby may be a blessing to you in old age or to their siblings, God's church & their communities in His greater plan that only He knows. Blessings!

[@shannonclaire7800]

I’m 29 and never been drunk and never want to be, I’ve seen first hand what drink can do to in multiple homes and i choose to break the chains with my own little family

[@Dana-mb1hd]

Yes! Same here- god bless your family ❤

[@homeschoolmom779]

I wanted kids right away but didn't get pregnant til 4 yrs after marriage... our kids are 16,12 and 6. We wanted them closer together but God had other plans. We tried so hard for first two and then was put on birth control for my PCOS and helping me have a menstrual cycle..welp I got pregnant on birth control! Huge surprise for us. God is so good and his timing is always right 🙌💙💙💙

[@shelbys2750]

I enjoy your story on alcohol. My husband and I started our marriage without drinking as I came from a family that had a lot of trouble because of alcohol. A couple years into our marriage we slowly got into moderate drinking and we still do, but I agree, more and more I see that other people dont actually drink moderately even if they say they do.

[@mackenziemeyer1937]

I do believe your sleep training babies as early as 8 weeks old makes your fertility return faster postpartum. God created women's bodies to naturally have a break in fertility while breastfeeding babies (most of the impacted hormones are during the night). This is biologically normal and there are so many health benefits in spacing out children including allowing the mother to build up her nutrition stores that have been depleted from pregnancy and birth. Extended breastfeeding on demand 24/7 is God's natural birth control. There are so many books and studies about this that I would recommend you guys checking out if you want a break in between babies without using man's birth control methods.

[@moriahdahl5469]

I nursed on demand quite close together and totally started ovulating and cycling at 8 and 9 weeks postpartum so I’d say that’s not really accurate.

[@lindadavis1590]

I have always breastfed on demand and still nurse my 18m old to sleep every time he wakes during the night (3-7 times) and my cycle returned not even 2 months postpartum so this is not always true.

[@meghoughton562]

I breastfed on demand and my cycle returned by the second month. I knew that was NOT a reliable form of birth control, not for us anyways.

[@callieruth3941]

I got pregnant with my 2nd wile still nursing on demand and co sleeping . Also had my cycle return a 6 weeks pp with my third. I'd say pray about it

[@beccal4718]

I’m sooo excited about these eschatology & theology episodes 👀 so ready for these ones!!!!

[@searchingforland-usa209]

What a breath of fresh air! I love hearing topics talked about in the way they're meant to be in a society that is so full of fear we don't speak up. Please keep this up!

[@sandrapatton8102]

I've been like, TY JESUS for your amazing GOD LED family! You give water to a thirsty soul with Godly wisdom. Also The Big Ski Family, may you keep doing these , our broken, lonely world needs to watch your families, ya'll are such GREAT MENTORS!! more and more blessings to you!!!

[@katrinasimmons9288]

I love that you both have the boldness to have discussions like this. I really value and appreciate your perspectives. I might not agree on everything, but I agree with your views on most things and still value your insights on topics that aren’t necessarily 100% aligned with that of my personal family. No one will agree (even among family) 100% on everything and I agree that most of us will shy away from discussing certain matters to not offend others or to not risk unity, but you two speak the truth in love and it is well received. Please keep doing podcasts like this 😊

[@oldeworldsoapshoppe]

I don't believe anyone saved could ever lose their salvation. There's so much biblical evidence in it. Praise God for that!

[@hannahcrisp4202]

Just a thought, Once saved always saved is an opportunity to sin and get away with it. This is Calvinism and is not taught in the Bible. A person who has gained the salvation of God can lose it. This is not to say as soon as you do something bad you aren’t saved anymore because God is gracious and merciful but there comes a point in a backsliders life where they realise they no longer have a relationship with God and it’s then just becomes a religion and not a relationship. The point of salvation is to turn from our sinful ways and not to continue to live our lives as we did before salvation, if we do that then was it even repentance in the first place?

[@SalinaTrull]

I would argue we’re they actually saved to begin with then?

[@oldeworldsoapshoppe]

@salina1595 exactly.. And it all comes down to the biblical truth of God judging us by our heart and man judging us by our works. 1st Samuel 16;7 "for the Lord seeth not as man seeth; for man looketh on the outward appearance, but the LORD looketh on the heart." This chapter of 1st Sam. 16 is also the same chapter that Samuel annointed David and it was when David was young. The Lord chose him then, David was saved then, and David was saved even while he committed those heinous acts, and so many other stories in the Bible. Thank God he gives us those stories to show us how much he loves us and that his promise endures even through our imperfections.

[@wendymtzc]

@@hannahcrisp4202once saved, always saved is not an opportunity to get away with sin, the Bible clearly teaches that God chastises (punishes) his disobedient children. He gives unto us ETERNAL life.

[@saltandfaith]

@@wendymtzcamen. So much false doctrine. Unfortunately Jesus will say to these works salvationists that he never knew them, and to depart.

[@perfectpeace352]

Keep studying Christmas... Hopefully this can be something we all turn away from in the future... The Christmas Question by 119 ministries is really good information. Also, it seems that Katie is compromising more of her strong beliefs that are actually very beneficial. She was raised in the discipline and wisdom that leads to blessings and is compromising this foundation. I was very similar when I got married that's why I see it. It's so easy for women to go in the direction of their husbands even when it's not best. For instance I did not drink alcohol when I got married but my husband and his family did. Just wine, very responsibly and as a part of a meal. (I would note that a glass of wine 3-4x a week is too much) but it so quickly can start with once a week to 2,3,4+. Also, I did not watch television/movies and when I got married I started watching movies that were not wholesome because my husband enjoyed that. Those movies influenced us and we were unaware. I have since seen this slow compromise in our family and now I am attempting through prayer and respectful communication to take our family in the direction I was before we got married. I know it seems that these things are not a big deal but I assure you that Katie is compromising and the effects are going to be a degradation of unknown proportion. I highly recommend Pagan Christianity by Frank Viola.

[@magmeister8422]

Ditto sister! Same path here. Also would recommend Pagan Christianity!

[@hope4all69]

You're absolutely right!!!

[@steffa648]

Here’s the thing and I hope you take this the right way. As husband and wife we are supposed to grow to be ONE. One in mind, beliefs, body, etc. follow your husbands lead as long as it is not against God and his commands in scripture. This will lead to a unified marriage. Satan wants to divide steal and kill and destroy. So many women want to be more spiritual than their husbands, and in so doing they drive a wedge between themselves and their husbands leading to more divisiveness and less unity. If your husband is not leading you to sin and it’s just something of a preference then I would follow his lead.

[@brywalker7199]

This was convicting. I thoroughly enjoy the communication style you both have. Thank you for speaking so graciously on these topics.

[@callie.envoyage]

Love the warm and open conversations. Thanks for modeling such a healthy approach to growth, change and respectful dialogue! 🧡

[@daisy346]

Thank you for this episode. I really enjoyed it. So interesting that pretty much all of these topics is something me and my husband really thought much deeper about and also changed our mind on, since we are married. I just wanted to share Pastor Mike Winger with you. He has a channel on KZbin where he helps Christians think Biblically. Listing to his content really helped me in most of these topics you talked about and just helped me grow spiritually.

[@jennavilushis]

Loved the discussion on justification. Reading "Determined to Believe?" by John Lennox greatly changed my perception of free will versus predestination. I used to shy away from making any contribution to the discussion other than, "There are many things we will not fully understand on this side of eternity." Yes, that is true. But I agree with Elisha-- I was convicted that my response was simply lazy.

[@thegallofamilyy]

I only even heard about Jesus and was saved almost 4 years ago. I can say the “pre” view has been very paralyzing in many aspects exactly like you are speaking about with multi gen children and finances and things. Before being saved it was mature and smart and a no brainer for anybody to save for the future and make better life for generations to come. Once I got saved it was hard to get back into that mindset bc of the thinking Jesus is coming back and if it’s soon none of this will matter. i’m only just now making the connections just like you guys on how to change that and get my motivation back for the future. i would love to her you guys talk about this more as i don’t know any people with the “post” view or how they are living now but it makes sense what you guys said here briefly!

[@glendaakers7528]

The Book of Acts is where the Church began. Read and obey Acts 2:38. That’s just the beginning. We study, pray and walk daily with the Lord.

[@saltandfaith]

So much false doctrine on this podcast. Galatians says be accursed if you have a false gospel. Jesus said when you believe on him you have eternal life John 6:47. It’s not up for debate. Stop following a false campbellite cult and believe. kzbin.info/www/bejne/b36WXpivl9FknbM

[@frienduke]

You guys are great. Pray you always stay on fire for the Lord. Nay God keep your family strong and safe

[@rosmariewalter254]

Psalm 23:31-32 talks about the dangers of drinking alcohol 😊

[@bnalejandro7]

I was thinking the same

[@aletteanne1]

Christians in the early church lived in light of the "appearing of the day of the Lord"- its there constantly in scripture - how much more should we eagerly wait expect and watch for his return (and all that goes with it!) If it wasn't important why did Daniel receive so much revelation about the End Times so afar ahead of his time. Without vision we perish. Eschatology should be a primary subject of study because we long for Jesus' return and it effect how we live our daily lives. Would love to hear more of your processes on this :)

[@rosmariewalter254]

God is leading you and is so beautiful the growing experience you’re going trough

[@homeatserenitysprings2120]

It is interesting that you mentioned what you like about post millennial theology, because I have been listening to a couple of podcasts run by people with this theology, and that is the main thing I’m attracted to about it as well. At 52, it’s a little late to implement some of what I’ve been learning from them regarding generational thinking and planning, but I am passing on what I learn to my 3 living children. I also like their views on bringing the kingdom to every aspect of life, including government. It’s better than having a hell-in-a-handbasket attitude, just waiting for Jesus to come back. Like you said, I’m a pre-millennial, and I’m not likely to change that view, but fortunately what we believe about eschatology doesn’t really matter all that much or he would have made it clearer in his word. What’s actually going to happen will happen at the end regardless of what any of us believe. But I do like the change it has made on my outlook. It is much more positive than doom and gloom.

[@elaineevans7126]

I totally agree with you on alcohol. Some kids just will not get the moderation message. You won’t regret your decision.

[@KatiePitre1]

I really appreciate your prespectives! Thanks for your show. 😊

[@cirelo1896]

As a Catholic convert it's shocking to me that some Christians don't celebrate Christmas! Is that a new thing? I knew like jehovas witness didn't. I grew up protestant and converted to Catholicism in college but that was not a difference I had to grapple with at that time! It's like THE christian holiday after easter... Wait do you celebrate easter?

[@andreacoughlin2736]

I’m a Christian and I don’t celebrate Christmas or Easter. Neither are in the Bible. We celebrate the 7 biblical feasts listed in the Bible, they are all about and point to Jesus.

[@kyrieluke3782]

Christmas and Easter are masquerading as Christian holidays, but they actually have pagan roots. Satanists actually think Christian’s are silly for celebrating those holidays due to their roots - many Christian’s don’t know this and that’s the point - it’s a facade.

[@Craftsandcats1]

I am a Bible believing Christian who does not celebrate Christmas or Easter Jesus told us to remember Him with communion and baptism. He never said celebrate my birthday… the date of His birth isn’t even recorded . Catholics stole the worship of the Sun God and stuck Jesus in its place to continue the celebrations the pagans were already doing

[@Rosie_C]

I’m a Baptist and we celebrate Christmas and Christ’s resurrection. I’ve known some Baptists who didn’t celebrate Christmas because they wanted to avoid the commercialization of it and they thought it was unbiblical, but I love that the biggest event of the year is celebrating our Saviour entering the world so He could make a way for us to be with Him for eternity.

[@daisy346]

Me too! I was so shocked and confused when I first heard Christians not celebrating, Christ's birth!? But I'm open to any new thoughts even though I didn't change my mind on it being a good and beautiful holiday.

[@hope4all69]

"Who hath woe? who hath sorrow? who hath contentions? who hath babbling? who hath wounds without cause? who hath redness of eyes? They that tarry long at the wine; they that go to seek mixed wine. Look not thou upon the wine when it is red, when it giveth his colour in the cup, when it moveth itself aright. At the last it biteth like a serpent, and stingeth like an adder. Thine eyes shall behold strange women, and thine heart shall utter perverse things. Yea, thou shalt be as he that lieth down in the midst of the sea, or as he that lieth upon the top of a mast. They have stricken me, shalt thou say, and I was not sick; they have beaten me, and I felt it not: when shall I awake? I will seek it yet again." Proverbs 23, 29 - 35 Alcohol is not a toy or a cute little pet you can play with. The Bible warns clearly about the danger of using alcohol! The records are full of crimes of all kind that were comitted under the influence of this poisonous drink.

[@Keepitoriginalministry]

I want to comment. But it doesn’t seem like they read or comment much on their followers.

[@Dana-mb1hd]

You guys are such an inspiration to me THANK YOU 💖🙏

[@nelyal181]

I think it’s totally normal and healthy to have shifted perspectives, since we should always be growing throughout our lives. (After being married for 9 years, we’re also doing the whole “birth control” thing a bit differently than we have up until now…) Blessings!

[@AdoptedDaughterofJesus]

Kjv Philippians 2:15 “That ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world;”

[@helmisilvennoinen]

It’s interesting to listen to your podcast as a muslim. Some things you say align very well. About alcohol though, it’s not allowed in Islam, and it makes perfect sense because it weakens your spirit and rememberance of God

[@janeandrews4850]

We choose not include Santa , sometimes instead of a tree we decorated a rock because Jesus is our rock when our children were young.

[@rosie52111]

Great podcast!!

[@lizbamalia5335]

This was such a refreshing and open-minded conversation! Loved listening to you and immediately subscribed.

[@Keepitoriginalministry]

Hello 👋 my wife sent me a video of yours yesterday about marriage. So that’s why I’m here. I would love to have a discussion with y’all on salvation or the rapture? Thanks and God bless y’all!

[@gather.sip.flourish]

Love this! ❤️ Thank you for your example

[@Mamato3]

Maybe the Daysy or Ladycomp is something you’d be interested in. Or simply just the sensiplan method. God bless ❤️

[@contrasedevacantism6811]

You should read Romans 2:14-15 where St. Paul appeals to the concept of the "natural law". Natural law is derived from the concept of teleology in nature, that is, within nature there are particular goals/ends which God intended for nature to fulfill. Within the context of human sexuality, each particular act must at least be open to the possibility of conception, and therefore, we shouldn't do anything to frustrate conception such as using contraception in all its forms. In fact, contraception is contrary to nature.

[@light7814]

You can think far, but God word tells one day this is going to happened. You can think, plan, invest until last day

[@mrs.jaywojo5426]

I think, too, that all of the early church had a mindset that Jesus could rapture them at any moment. I think that the part people have to be careful of is that we - flawed, sinful humans - are going to bring in a kingdom worthy of God. No, He is coming in His will and timing with His Kingdom of Heaven.

[@honeyb384]

Wonderfu podcast-pretty new here & first podcast I heard from you two. I started binge watching your KZbin channel …. Victorious Eschatology (is a good read)

[@epwal3059]

Hope you guys get post mil soon, we need as many of those as possible lol. Besides studying the bible, The last days according to Jesus by RC Sproll and When the man comes around by Dough Wilson are really great resources that'll hopefully be a big help.

[@jessa-lynndubrule2573]

So it seems that people in Elisha’s family are valued and edified by the conversations re: theology/scripture. Wondering if your listeners would feel the same if you guys were a little more forth coming about what you believe. Just a thought. You seem to love the Lord, praying for wisdom as you navigate these platforms.

[@maggs8964]

this was awesome, thank you!

[@hannahh8178]

Hello sweet family!Please excuse my non perfect english As a mom of eight kids, (My age 32) me and my husband went through many thoughts about how many children..how long between...and how..and bla bla...God made me free with that word from scripture saying that He new how many days i had..from psalms...And if He knows everything and He also knows how many kids I could have....let s say I want to skip one year because i don t feel well..or I have a diet..or a holliday plan..and year after year a can find many reasons..and How can I know that my end it is not soon...and I didn t receive all my God plan?as soon as I let Him to choose what and when knowing nothing is done without Him to know...I can lay my head down every single evening ..saying God..thanks for watching over me every moment!And if you emplement new things in life...make sure ,and only make sure it is not from the Evil seeing you prosper in God s way and adding you some' baby stuff" nothing really very important(like christmas tree,it was a strugle to emplement for the first time but after you do it it s seems normal,the thing is It doesn t have anything with Christ being born it is an evil decoration making you being part with the strangers not with the real happy thing that happend ,) reason showing you lost your night prayers on the way somewhere..be very careful and please please retain...close to Jesus with all your heart!

[@rosmariewalter254]

I need to make a correction… is no Psalm where to look in the Bible about alcohol but Proverbs 23:31-32 🙏🏻

[@Playing_with_a_Purpose]

Loved this!

[@violetstrike1764]

We are to occupy, until JESUS comes back.

[@candylee8253]

YOU may be able to treat it like a compliment to a good meal. While a drink will not determine your eternal destiny, it can ruin your earthly path. No one makes a decision one day to be an alcoholic. Your children and family will have to decide, but your testimony against it lovingly will give you a platform to speak from in your walk with Christ and in your parenting.

[@thebornos4203]

Alcohol impaires your judgement, you don't have to consume a large amount of alcohol for it to effect your mental and physical being. The Holy Spirit communicate to us through our frontal lope, and any amount of alcohol will effect our spiritual discernment. I wouldn't encourage any christian to advise anyone on drinking alcohol not even moderately. The bible call us to be temperate in all things. True definition of temperate, is to remove all that is bad and to be moderate in all that is good. To send someone to drink alcohol moderately is to tell them someone to go and lie as long as they don't hurt nobody well knowing that the bible say it's a sin to lie and yes! the bible have many verse to tells us to stay away from alcohol. JESUS DID NNOT DRINK WINE BUT GRAPE JUICE DO YOUR RESEARCH.

[@meriam789]

Amen 🙏🎉 well said. Don’t look at wine when it is red, when it sparkles in the cup, going down smoothly. In the end, it bites like a snake and poisons like a viper. Your eyes will see strange things, and your heart will speak distorted words. You will be like one who lies down while out on the sea or one who lies on top of a mast. “Though hit, I feel no pain; though beaten up, I don’t know anything about it. When I wake up, I’ll look for wine again!” Proverbs 23:31‭-‬35 God seems pretty clear about this topic. Not very biblical based of them, as they seem to claim to be on other topics like parenting and so on.

[@katietsykal4053]

Everyone with a microphone is now an expert. 😩

[@user-rw5cx1uh4i]

yea

[@oldeworldsoapshoppe]

What do you think Proverbs 23;30 & 31 means?

[@meriam789]

Yes!! First comment I read that doesn't applaud them for being "open-minded" and accepting to alcohol.

[@meriam789]

Don’t look at wine when it is red, when it sparkles in the cup, going down smoothly. In the end, it bites like a snake and poisons like a viper. Your eyes will see strange things, and your heart will speak distorted words. You will be like one who lies down while out on the sea or one who lies on top of a mast. “Though hit, I feel no pain; though beaten up, I don’t know anything about it. When I wake up, I’ll look for wine again!” Proverbs 23:31‭-‬35

[@meriam789]

I think they forgot to check the bible on this topic. God is pretty clear about alcohol. There is no space for personal preference.

[@Baginski773]

Can you do a video on what nutrition books you guys have read?

[@NowThatWereAFamilyPodcast]

Great video idea! Check out all the books we recommend here - www.nowthatwereafamily.com/shop-my-library There is a great nutrition book in there!

[@Baginski773]

@@NowThatWereAFamilyPodcast thank you!

[@dallas41891]

Are you guys Calvinist?

[@francheskaward6079]

I don't know that eschatology needs to be the informant of how we live today. Centuries have passed with many generations of people who were pre-millenialism believers who sowed the seed for future generations. I think you can look at the gospels alone to know that Christ came so that we may live life abundantly and parables that talk about spiritually investing in future generations and He didn't even wrap that up with eschatology, with the exception of Him saying no one knows the hour, but the Father Himself. How dare we make a timeline and choose to live by it. If Jesus Himself didn't say the time, how audacious of us to claim to know. With that said, I don't know any pre-millenialism believers that are investing in just the here and now. Some may be preparing for Christ's coming by being more intentional about sharing the gospel and seeking Scriptures to know God deeper. But to hunker down for today waiting for His return seems like the opposite of what we are called to do, regardless of your eschatology. And I pray Jesus will bring forth a better kingdom because what He is able to do would be 10000% better than what we could ever think of. To God be the glory!

[@taydi8022]

I don’t agree about birth control. What about women who have health issues or c sections that just have lots of babies is not factible or an option.

[@phylissbrassey8431]

What is eschatology?

[@annaneedham1091]

View of end times

[@jesuschristismylord4043]

Eschatology is the end times, in which we now live. The vaccine is the mark of the beast.

[@EricDanzeisen]

Post millennial! ❤ rather be wrong about that than anything else. Optimistic view on life, family & evangelism

[@patriciabellah9392]

I'm ok with the big words if everyone understands them . If they don't then you need to talk in layman's terms.

[@AdoptedDaughterofJesus]

Leaven brean unleaved bread leavened wine unleavened wine Jesus wine or satan win New wine or leaven wine

[@AdoptedDaughterofJesus]

Freshly squeezed grape is new wine

[@AdoptedDaughterofJesus]

Wine for infirmaty sake is like appke vinegar It fermented naturally long time. No leaven

[@sabaazeez1473]

I wish you read quran with a English translation and give a review about it.

[@haydenritchie9850]

Just wait till y’all find out that the “apocalypse” has already happened and that the current nation state of Israel isn’t the Israel mentioned in the Bible but a reference to The Church 🥴😂

[@HomemakerOnAnAcre]

Biblical Israel, yes! Much different than Zionist state of Israel! Do you also believe Millennial Reign already happened? I'm real fresh to this eschatology!

[@righthasit8136]

Could you please elaborate? 🙏🤗 thanks

[@myfavoritethings8093]

Did you really say "I am Christ"??

[@cclawson78]

She did. I think she meant "I'm in Christ".

[@myfavoritethings8093]

@@cclawson78 She did not correct herself nor did her husband. "I am Christ?"????? Wow! I'd like her to make a redo of that sentence....

[@mul20]

I thought she said "I am Christ's." Meaning that she belongs to Christ...

[@headintheclouds2196]

Jer 10:3 no matter how you reason it’s still a pagan day. 🤷🏽‍♀️

[@wendymtzc]

We must read in context… that passage is talking about idols, people would cut a tree and carve it and plate it with gold, this is not about house plants

[@mrs.jaywojo5426]

I recommend Michael Pearl who has great Bible commentaries and is on youtube at The Door. Pre-trib rapture is Biblical and was preached by Paul. There is a lie that Darby propagated this "novel" idea.

[@wendymtzc]

Immediately AFTER the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: 30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

[@mrs.jaywojo5426]

@@wendymtzc Hi Wendy, can you elaborate your comment?

[@wendymtzc]

@@mrs.jaywojo5426 I’m just pointing to a verse that contradicts a pre-tribulation rapture.

[@mrs.jaywojo5426]

@@wendymtzc It doesn't though... can you explain how it does?

[@wendymtzc]

@@mrs.jaywojo5426 what does after mean?