189 - Mussolini is Tired of War - WW2 - April 9th , 1943

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World War Two

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@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo 2 жыл бұрын
This episode is dedicated to Gino Lonardelli and his cousin by Esprit Boschero. If you would like to dedicated an episode to a loved one, a unit, city, anyone or anything you feel should be memorialized, then you can do so here: bit.ly/WW2_189_PI_MEMORIAL Join the TimeGhost Army: bit.ly/WW2_189_PI Read our community guidelines before commenting: community.timeghost.tv/t/rules-of-conduct/4518
@robertjarman3703
@robertjarman3703 2 жыл бұрын
Hum, isn´t this also when the Finns also get the idea for a separate peace?
@diegopagura421
@diegopagura421 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing thing you did with the dedication part. Thanks
@mammuchan8923
@mammuchan8923 2 жыл бұрын
Great idea to be able to dedicate an episode, very special ❤️
@flankspeed
@flankspeed 2 жыл бұрын
Wow. That hit hard. It's easy to lose track of all these stories, especially on the Eastern front, where the numbers are so mind-boggling.
@patrickmcglynn5383
@patrickmcglynn5383 2 жыл бұрын
I always wondered what happened to the original 5 Italian divisions Mussolini contributed to Barbarossa. How many of the originals lived through it and made it back to Italy.
@hebl47
@hebl47 2 жыл бұрын
"You are Adolf Hitler." Oh damn, not again...
@hopfinatorischerkuchenkrieger
@hopfinatorischerkuchenkrieger 2 жыл бұрын
Happens to me every time...
@jasondouglas6755
@jasondouglas6755 2 жыл бұрын
This ain’t the first time he has got us with this one
@Kaiserboo1871
@Kaiserboo1871 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t you just hate it when, after a good nights rest, you wake up only to realize that you’ve suddenly become Adolf Hitler.
@scutumfidelis1436
@scutumfidelis1436 2 жыл бұрын
@@Kaiserboo1871 I just have to turn on KZbin.
@kingcobra7183
@kingcobra7183 2 жыл бұрын
World War 2: Part Two Electric Boogaloo
@JHF_Gaming
@JHF_Gaming 2 жыл бұрын
"That is easier said than Verdun." I'll show myself out.
@Bittersteel96
@Bittersteel96 2 жыл бұрын
You got Somme balls, I give you that.
@rossaaron5237
@rossaaron5237 2 жыл бұрын
I admire his passchen
@michals5873
@michals5873 2 жыл бұрын
Please stay :)
@boxermeister1968
@boxermeister1968 2 жыл бұрын
Quit Stalin and get Goering already, Patton.
@danielmocsny5066
@danielmocsny5066 2 жыл бұрын
Give my eyes an hour to decode all these puns.
@ewok40k
@ewok40k 2 жыл бұрын
I think we might hear about this von Stauffenberg in the future. Anyone surviving such wounds is one tough guy...
@dd-579fletcherwillyd.9
@dd-579fletcherwillyd.9 2 жыл бұрын
Hmm, tbh he doesn't seem to be somewhat of high importance now. Though yeah, he do be tough af. Hope he survives the war!!
@ErwinPommel
@ErwinPommel 2 жыл бұрын
@Beñat Badiola ...dude
@ErwinPommel
@ErwinPommel 2 жыл бұрын
@Beñat Badiola Everyone knows, buddy. You got /whooshed
@dd-579fletcherwillyd.9
@dd-579fletcherwillyd.9 2 жыл бұрын
@Beñat Badiola uhh..... I know who Stauffenberg actually is. We're literally pretending that we don't. Just.... shhhh. Don't ruin the fun
@ewok40k
@ewok40k 2 жыл бұрын
@Beñat Badiola mind the spoilers
@maciejkamil
@maciejkamil 2 жыл бұрын
"Tunis will be Verdun of Mediterranean." Well, he wasn't wrong about that. Both battles were huge German defeats after all.
@sticktheok
@sticktheok 2 жыл бұрын
lmao
@Psychonaut316
@Psychonaut316 2 жыл бұрын
Oh snap!
@lycaonpictus9662
@lycaonpictus9662 2 жыл бұрын
Germany did very poorly with it's historical callbacks. Another example was naming Operation Barbarossa after a guy whose crusading ambitions failed when he fell of his horse and drowned.
@fieldmarshalbaltimore1329
@fieldmarshalbaltimore1329 2 жыл бұрын
Based
@fieldmarshalbaltimore1329
@fieldmarshalbaltimore1329 2 жыл бұрын
@@lycaonpictus9662 only now they are drowning in mud and not water
@Ivan-rb8wx
@Ivan-rb8wx 2 жыл бұрын
Interestingly, today (April 9), in the Philippines, we commemorate Valor Day, the anniversary of the fall of Bataan.
@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing, we wish you all the best on this Valor Day. 🇵🇭
@brickproduction1815
@brickproduction1815 2 жыл бұрын
April 9 is the day Denmark fell to the Germans!
@tylerclayton6081
@tylerclayton6081 2 жыл бұрын
@@brickproduction1815 more like the day Denmark rolled out the red carpet for the Nazi invasion. The invasion took only 6 hours! They didn’t even try to resist
@brickproduction1815
@brickproduction1815 2 жыл бұрын
@@tylerclayton6081 but they did, right? Like they got some casualties on their side and heavily for the germans!
@nmisnotnewandnotmexico.2262
@nmisnotnewandnotmexico.2262 2 жыл бұрын
There is a ceremony every year on April 9 in Santa Fe, NM at the Bataan Bldg. to honor the defenders of Bataan and Corregidor from the 200th and 515th Coast Artillery from the State of New Mexico who fought against the Japanese 14th Army to the last round. The US Navy, Marine and Army forces fought a delaying action DEC 1941-MAY 1942 which disrupted the Japanese strategic timetable and prevented the invasion of Australia. General Douglas McArthur was ordered to evacuate Bataan with his family by FDR. McArthur declared that "I SHALL RETURN"!
@johnluke9207
@johnluke9207 2 жыл бұрын
My grandfather was drafted to fight Ethiopians. He was totally disgusted by the experience. He immigrated to Michigan and found work on the railroad in Grand Rapids. I asked him why he left sunny Sicily for cloudy west MI. He said there was no work, and worse, the "bandits" would steal your crops before you could harvest your fields.
@user-vp8em7jq9g
@user-vp8em7jq9g 2 жыл бұрын
Best answer I’ve heard for these situations: “Can’t eat scenery.”
@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo 2 жыл бұрын
@John Thanks for sharing a bit about your grandfather's experience. I'm glad he & your family found peace.
@regalecusglesne3022
@regalecusglesne3022 2 жыл бұрын
yeah but you're not italian
@Walker-ow7vj
@Walker-ow7vj 2 жыл бұрын
Regalecus glesne bruh that doesn’t make sense 🤦🏻‍♂️
@kirbyculp3449
@kirbyculp3449 2 жыл бұрын
Calls to mind the movie 'America, America'. Please do watch it.
@trippyhare
@trippyhare 2 жыл бұрын
Germany: Tunis will be the Verdun of Africa! Italy: Didn't you LOSE at Verdun? Germany: ......
@oldesertguy9616
@oldesertguy9616 2 жыл бұрын
I was just going to say the same thing. When you're talking about almost a million casualties on both sides, either win or lose it doesn't sound like the best example.
@johnf7683
@johnf7683 2 жыл бұрын
Verdun was a disaster for both sides. German General Erich von Falkenhayn, who directed the German forces, whole purpose was to bleed the French army to death. What happened was both armies bled out (combined 800,000 THOUSAND deaths!!!), but nothing was accomplished. If I were Mussolini, and Hitler mentioned Verdun to me, I would have contacted the British for help, even if it meant unconditional surrender, and cut as good a deal as I could behind the scenes. He had to have known the war as lost at that point, and continuing to fight would lead to his bloody end.
@iDeathMaximuMII
@iDeathMaximuMII 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnf7683 The British would’ve probably told Mussolini to resign if he wanted peace. Plus I think German agents were all over Italy by this point
@lycaonpictus9662
@lycaonpictus9662 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnf7683 While the battle inflicted appallingly high casualties for both sides, it was unquestionably a French victory. More over Germany lost nearly as many men as the French, and could less afford it. Instead of bleeding the French army white, Falkenhayn destroyed his own. Some historians have also called into question whether it was even a German plan to bleed France's army white, seeing it instead as an excuse by Falkenhayn after the fact to justify the costly battle of attrition that followed after the failure to capture Verdun - which they see as the true objective.
@Raskolnikov70
@Raskolnikov70 2 жыл бұрын
Germany: Well...... IT SEEMED LIKE A GOOD IDEA AT THE TIME!
@jimgraham6722
@jimgraham6722 2 жыл бұрын
Many of those surrendering Italians were sent to Australia as POWs. At the end of the war they stayed. As a consequence the Australian diet and standard of coffee improved considerably.
@miguelmontenegro3520
@miguelmontenegro3520 11 ай бұрын
Wonder if those f1 aussie pilots (Piastri and Ricciardo) have anything to do with them
@letitiajeavons6333
@letitiajeavons6333 7 ай бұрын
So Italian POWs are the reason Australia has spaghetti with Marinara sauce and Lasagna?
@PhoenixNoKiseki
@PhoenixNoKiseki 5 ай бұрын
We do love our coffee, and our Italian brothers and sisters.
@jimgraham6722
@jimgraham6722 5 ай бұрын
@@powerdriller4124 Australia lost only 26,000 service people dead in WW2 as there weren't many left after the massacre of WW1 where we lost 55,000 dead. About 10% of the young male population. As for the Italians some would have married Australian girls but most sent off for wives and girlfriends. The Australian government paid for them to come out. There are many stories about this.
@powerdriller4124
@powerdriller4124 5 ай бұрын
@@jimgraham6722 :: Sorry, I already erased my stupid comment. I don´t understand how I could have been such an a--hole, I read the comment again and feel shame of myself.
@eleanorkett1129
@eleanorkett1129 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad the brave Italian for whom this episode is dedicated finally discovered who the culprit was for not allowing the Italians to retreat and possibly save more lives. Kudos to all the Italian heroes who realized this cursed struggle just wasn't worth it.
@alfazulu6515
@alfazulu6515 2 жыл бұрын
Brave “italians”, mate? Whom would that be? Name some, mate
@AndreLuis-gw5ox
@AndreLuis-gw5ox 2 жыл бұрын
@@larrythorn6265 thats because both Axis and Allies knew that, after Barbarossa, the German only had one opportunity to mount a large scale offensive operation to try and secure the soviet oil fields and maybe destroy or heavily cripple the red army into submission. Since this vital strategic goal was not achieved despite the resources invested, they all knew it was impossible to win, but rather they woud have to chase for a favourable surrender. And that is not even considering the disaster of Stalingrad,that only made the situation of the eastern front a complete weak mess
@AmanKumarPadhy
@AmanKumarPadhy 2 жыл бұрын
Wow mate. You could atleast respect his memory. He fought and died as Indy mentioned in the video, isnt that brave enough for you?
@davethompson3326
@davethompson3326 2 жыл бұрын
@@alfazulu6515 Grow up, read a few books.
@villahugo7316
@villahugo7316 2 жыл бұрын
@@alfazulu6515 %%22 3
@blakedake19
@blakedake19 2 жыл бұрын
Giovanni Cecini, Italian historian, wrote this (my translation) about Italo Gariboldi: «Among Italian generals from WW2, Gariboldi is probably the one being most mocked. He had a prolific career in the Italian High Command and got his first real command post at the age of 44 years old. (...) He ended his grey carrer with extremely modest results: first in Russia at the top of a difficult task and that was above his ability, then in prison in Germany. He represents the archetype of the modest, but lucky wingman, who at one point found himself leader of a war where you needed very different qualities» So yeah, not the brightest mind.
@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing that, Blake
@davidbell1250
@davidbell1250 2 жыл бұрын
Quite poignant that he was able to live until the age of 90 dying in 1970 unlike all the troops under his command who died way before that age as a result of his veto on any retreat. I suppose the only mitigation would be that with the intensity of the Eastern Front they were unlikely to survive even if they had retreated.
@michaellind3653
@michaellind3653 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidbell1250 always goes that way, the moron officers survive while their men die. Some day young men will turn their weapons on the old men and then you will see a war just stop cold.
@Eldiran1
@Eldiran1 2 жыл бұрын
This description seem to match with some terrible italian general like luigi cadorna .
@rodrigodog3872
@rodrigodog3872 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidbell1250 I agree. Maybe they could have a better chance of surviving than the germans, if they surrendered right away, and russians didnt had a grudge against italians in general, they had a chance, wich was crushed by this old warmongering fool Gariboldi.
@gunman47
@gunman47 2 жыл бұрын
A rather unfortunate event that happened this week on April 4 1943 is that Lady Be Good, a United States Army Air Forces B-24D Liberator, disappeared over the Libyan Desert after becoming lost while completing a bombing raid in Italy. The crew was able to parachute to safety after running out of gasoline, but they would eventually die off one by one from thirst over the next week. The wreckage of Lady Be Good would only be found many years later in 1958, and the remains of the crew in 1960. This event would later be indirectly referenced in the 1964 novel “Flight of the Phoenix” along with its 1965 and 2004 film versions respectively.
@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing that interesting and tragic story.
@PhillyPhanVinny
@PhillyPhanVinny 2 жыл бұрын
Dying of thirst is one of the worst deaths I can think of. Knowing you are going to die because you can't find water is just a terrible thought and the amount of time it takes for you to die from thirst makes it equally as bad. The worst death I can think of having though is dying of acute radiation Syndrome . If you have seen the HBO show Chernobyl they came very close to showing how bad such a death is. If you watch KZbin videos on how radiation kills people it is nightmare causing stuff. If I ever received a lethal dose of radiation I would rather just kill myself then go through what those poor people go through. They know they are going to die with nothing that can be done to help them save their life yet they then go through normally 3-14 days of the most painful way to die possible. And if the doctors really try to save your life you can be going through that torture for months but still have no hope of recovering. Watching the KZbin videos on how Hisashi Ouchi of Japan died of ARS (acute radiation syndrome) years ago still sticks with me of just a nightmare way to die.
@Nostripe361
@Nostripe361 2 жыл бұрын
Was this also the inspiration for that Twilight Zone episode about a crashed bomber in the desert?
@Nostripe361
@Nostripe361 2 жыл бұрын
@@PhillyPhanVinny I remember videos talking about that Japanese man who basically became a walking Deadman. The radiation that hit him was so much that it destroyed his dna; meaning his body couldn't produce new cells. So he had live through his body breaking down as one by one his bodies cells broke down as they were unable to create new ones.
@perihelion7798
@perihelion7798 2 жыл бұрын
War is a huge, sprawling story, but that huge story is made up of millions of individual stories. That B-24 story is one of those. It's about personal tragedy among the giant tragedy of war. There is a documentary about the incident.
@Italian_Military_Archives
@Italian_Military_Archives 2 жыл бұрын
Really liked the final part, with Gino's story. Thanks for giving space to such tales
@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for helping us remember stories like his.
@oOkenzoOo
@oOkenzoOo 2 жыл бұрын
On April 5 1943, the GC3 "Normandie" Free French squadron claimed its first victories in Russia. 14 days after their arrival at the front, the pilots Albert Preziosi and Albert Durand shot down two Fw-190s in the Roslav area while the patrol was escorting a Pe-2 bomber.
@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing about them.
@PalleRasmussen
@PalleRasmussen 2 жыл бұрын
That is a fascinating story. There is actually a documentary about them here on KZbin.
@thibaudduhamel2581
@thibaudduhamel2581 2 жыл бұрын
The normandie regiment is the reason why the only remaining complete original yak 3 anywhere in the world is in the french air museum in le Bourget near Paris. Stalin gave the planes to the pilots as a personal gift at the end of the war. I truly feel this regiment deserves a special episode.
@georget8008
@georget8008 2 жыл бұрын
The free French fought on the Soviet side on the eastern front? Could you please elaborate on this?
@PalleRasmussen
@PalleRasmussen 2 жыл бұрын
@@georget8008 you can have a gander here kzbin.info/www/bejne/q57dpZRpqteUpaM
@sankarchaya
@sankarchaya 2 жыл бұрын
the story in the dedication reminds everyone of one strange contradiction in fascism - it seeks to bolster the "race" or "nation", but sends the bravest and most capable young men to die pointlessly
@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo 2 жыл бұрын
@sam Well-stated and poignant, thank you for that reflection.
@danielmocsny5066
@danielmocsny5066 2 жыл бұрын
As we are being reminded even today, autocrats talk about the "race" or "nation" but really only care about enriching themselves. Autocrats don't care about truth. They use words the same way they use people, merely as means to an end. With the end being to maximize the wealth, power, and privilege of the autocrats themselves.
@laurentfranco8075
@laurentfranco8075 2 жыл бұрын
And there's always a bigger fish out there somewhere. It's a dispicable ideology
@randompillow5146
@randompillow5146 2 жыл бұрын
I get what you’re saying, but to them they aren’t dying pointlessly. They’re dying to ensure a future for that race or nation. I’m not agreeing with it, I’m just saying that they don’t look at it the way we do in hindsight.
@Alex-cw3rz
@Alex-cw3rz 2 жыл бұрын
79 years and one day ago on the 8th of April 1943 my uncle at the age of 23 a Sergeant in the 111th field regiment, Royal Artillery died in Tunisia, a few days before his death 4th April he met General Montgomery. 1 in 10 of all the men from his home town of Bolton, England who died fighting in the war died at Tebega gap, due to the exposed position the artillery regiment had to be in, with the surrounding terrain and where the German and Italian front line was (judging by the dates of Tebega gap he must have died from wounds on the 8th of April). We still have 6 sperate newspaper clippings of the roll of honour up until 1949 a select few said : He left us suddenly, his thoughts unknown, But left a memory we are proud to own. The years roll by but the memory clings One of the sad thing is seeing the other people who died in action on the same date and reading the grief striken tributes about their loved ones as well, one reads of H. S. Lilley : We laughed with others, we cry alone, How much we miss them, will never be known Another thing as year go on less relatives are mentioned in connection (where to send messages of condolences) as they also died. His brother, my grandad would be at the time of his death in the Arctic escorting convoys. His father was a soldier in World War 1 wounded four seperate times at Gallipoli and went on to win a military medal at Passchendale taking out a German machine gun nest, we still have his medal he broke it in two after war which had deeply effected him. I can't imagine what it must have been like for him, his wife and brother to find out one of their sons had died, the tributes give a small glimpse but nothing compared to the pain and anguish they must have felt.
@Kay2kGer
@Kay2kGer 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing
@hannahskipper2764
@hannahskipper2764 2 жыл бұрын
God bless them.
@cosmedelustrac5842
@cosmedelustrac5842 2 жыл бұрын
My respects go to him.
@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo 2 жыл бұрын
@We say no to pay to win Thank you for sharing so much about your family's history. May they rest in peace. I know you watch every week and I have to say thank you as well for bringing so much to our comments & discussion sections. Even if the discussions do get heated sometimes, we appreciate your contributions.
@benjaminhaslam3152
@benjaminhaslam3152 2 жыл бұрын
I am from Bolton and I never knew about that, so I truly thank you for sharing
@Lttlemoi
@Lttlemoi 2 жыл бұрын
The failed allied bombing of Antwerp hit, among others, a school in Mortsel. My grandfather, just short of military age, had to pass it by on his way to where he attended school. We only have a few stories from him about the war, but it was obvious to us all that this event, where he had to walk past the debris and bodies, was one of, if not the, most shocking parts of the war to him.
@blenderbanana
@blenderbanana 2 жыл бұрын
Nazi-Occupied Antwerp?
@sergiopiparo4084
@sergiopiparo4084 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Indy for this video on Italian Army in the Eastern Front. My mother’s Uncle served in that Front and never returned home
@carlouis1
@carlouis1 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for yet another great episode, Indy and the crew! That small part of the video (and one of the community posts) that referenced an event from the Philippines is quite timely as we celebrate the Day of Valor; a day where we commemorate the fall of Bataan and the start of the Death March.
@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo 2 жыл бұрын
@carlouis1 Thanks for watching 🇵🇭
@SloverMichael
@SloverMichael 2 жыл бұрын
That was really good of you and your team to do the research on that family member. Some questions go unanswered and are lost when they person asking the question passes away. You all get better every episode and I tune in every Saturday.
@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo 2 жыл бұрын
@Michael Thanks very much for the kind words. We love having such a dedicated audience, you all in the TimeGhost Army make it a pleasure to be involved in the channel every week.
@patriotadam4091
@patriotadam4091 2 жыл бұрын
I need to catch up. Haven’t watched since the fall of Stalingrad. Great episode
@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching, Adam. I hope you enjoy catching up
@patriotadam4091
@patriotadam4091 2 жыл бұрын
@@WorldWarTwo Hey you are one of the best channels here on youtube.
@patriotadam4091
@patriotadam4091 2 жыл бұрын
Finally all cought up!
@TheaterCommanders1940
@TheaterCommanders1940 2 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love this series! I’ve followed every episode since the start of WWI. I’ve probably seen every episode 10 times! Keep up the great work! I look forward to the years of coverage to come!
@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo 2 жыл бұрын
@Zachary Thanks so much for your longtime dedication! I wouldn't be doing my job if I didn't invite you to become an official member of the TimeGhost Army and help our production. Stay tuned! bit.ly/WW2_189_CO
@stefan_pint
@stefan_pint 2 жыл бұрын
A special episode about the relations between Germany and Romania in the period 1939-1943 would be great. How did they change after the Stalingrad disaster? Thank you for everything you do!
@caryblack5985
@caryblack5985 2 жыл бұрын
Italy and Hungary completely withdrew their troops from the Eastern Front. Romania continued to fight on the Eastern front until a palace coup in 1944 caused them o switch sides and fight against the Germans.
@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo 2 жыл бұрын
StefanP, Every episode is a great investment of research, time, and money. We do our best to cover the action of this war every single week and to bring you special episodes regularly, but we can't do it without your support! Join the TimeGhost Army today and help us make more of those specials bit.ly/WW2_189_CO
@salsheikh4508
@salsheikh4508 2 жыл бұрын
Great Episode. Awesome Sponsor story at the end to pull it all together Sir.
@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@Trapster99
@Trapster99 2 жыл бұрын
I have a personal story about the Ravenna Division, told to me by my father. As a young boy, in 6th grade, my father and his fellow class mates were encouraged to send a care package with letters and home made scarfs and gloves to the soldiers of the Ravenna Division. The school children, including my father, received return letters in September and October 1942. The soldiers were thankful for the gifts and appreciated the kind letters. Then, by early November, the letters turned dark and bleak. Finally, as of December 1942, all contact was lost. In 1955, now in college, my father wondered what had happened to this Italian division on the Eastern Front, and, of course, what happened to the soldiers who had taken the time to write back to him when he was a young boy. He was very saddened to learn, but not shocked, that the entire division had been wiped out. Swallowed up by the Russian Steppe.
@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing that story from your father, Paul. That is quite tragic. Never forget.
@zachhibbard5147
@zachhibbard5147 2 жыл бұрын
This channel and all other Timeghost projects are doing more to educate the public than most education systems
@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo 2 жыл бұрын
@Zach We do what we can, thank you for watching
@nevermindmeijustinjectedaw9988
@nevermindmeijustinjectedaw9988 2 жыл бұрын
these memorials at the end of the episodes are brutal, i love it paying to point out someone's massive failure in front of a half million audience
@danielmocsny5066
@danielmocsny5066 2 жыл бұрын
Brutal, yes, but not to the thoroughly dead persons being named.
@censusgary
@censusgary 2 жыл бұрын
The “Battle of Manners Street” reminds me of the “Zoot Suit Riots” in Los Angeles in 1943. Some count the Zoot Suit Riots as the beginning of the Chicano movement. I hope the Time Ghosts will do an episode about those incidents.
@naveenraj2008eee
@naveenraj2008eee 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Indy Awesome episode.. Finally Italy understood they are losing.. These kind of videos dedication to soldiers is good intiative.. Can learn about them.. Thanks for another weekly episode..
@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much for watching every week & sharing your reflections with us. The whole team wishes you well.
@Supergforce777
@Supergforce777 2 жыл бұрын
Defeat seems inevitable and it’s chilling to think that this war will continue for years more
@hortehighwind8651
@hortehighwind8651 2 жыл бұрын
Steiner and his army group will turn the tides and push back the Soviets all the way to Moscow ;)
@cosmedelustrac5842
@cosmedelustrac5842 2 жыл бұрын
They might be thinking that the UK thought the same thing in 1940 and 1941.
@Raskolnikov70
@Raskolnikov70 2 жыл бұрын
Wunderwaffen and Pervitin will surely turn the tide.....
@indianajones4321
@indianajones4321 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if my guy Stauffenberg will play a larger role in this war…
@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo 2 жыл бұрын
@Indiana We'll just have to wait and see
@Duke_of_Lorraine
@Duke_of_Lorraine 2 жыл бұрын
If he does, better if the Führer sees it with his own eyes. Always less abstract than a report on paper
@Arbiter099
@Arbiter099 2 жыл бұрын
He'll surely Cruise back into the story somehow
@indianajones4321
@indianajones4321 2 жыл бұрын
@@Arbiter099 lol
@jasondrew5768
@jasondrew5768 2 жыл бұрын
Great historical WW2 video Indy by you and your fantastic hard working staff!
@yes_head
@yes_head 2 жыл бұрын
We're entering an interesting phase of the war, where the Axis are conceding some of their gains, still confident they can grind out a victory through superior strategy and technology. The Allies are learning how to work together, and getting a quick education on what it is they're really up against and what it will take to win.
@danielmocsny5066
@danielmocsny5066 2 жыл бұрын
I have to wonder, though - at this point in the war, what's the highest IQ a person can have while sincerely believing that the Axis can still win? Axis forces are retreating everywhere and the Allies are growing stronger by the week. The final outcome is no longer debatable, only the length of time and the number of fatalities to get there.
@yes_head
@yes_head 2 жыл бұрын
@@danielmocsny5066 We can see looking back that that was the situation, but at the time I don't think anybody had that kind of global, holistic perspective. The British probably didn't have that kind of confidence, especially since a ton of ships were still being lost to U-boats in the North Atlantic, the Americans had lost most of their Pacific fighting force (the mindset was only just starting to shift from battleships to carriers), and the Americans were taking a painfully long time to get their sh*t together in North Africa. I think everyone probably had confidence that *over time* the industrial might of the U.S. would turn the tide, but remember the Japanese were never fighting to *beat* the United States, just to make us come to the negotiating table on their terms. As Indy says in this episode, the Italians were now starting to ask Hitler to make peace with the Russians so that they could consolidate their efforts in Europe. It's an interesting "what if" had they been successful in persuading him. Fortunately for everyone (?), Hitler was reliably a psychotic megalomaniac and wanted nothing less than absolute victory.
@Anthony-jo7up
@Anthony-jo7up 2 жыл бұрын
@@danielmocsny5066 The US hasn’t really mobilized yet and Patton only just recently arrived in North Africa. The Allies are winning great air victories in the Mediterranean, but it’s unclear just how important this will be. In the Pacific, the Japanese and Americans are slugging it out and there is rough parity between them. In 1-2 months the whole situation will change dramatically. In 2 weeks the commander of the IJN, Isoroku Yamamoto, will be killed. Then about a month after that, more Axis forces are taken prisoner in Tunisia than were surrounded in Stalingrad. At about the same time, the first Essex-class carrier will come online and mark the start of the real Pacific War, as the US would produce ~2600 major surface vessels in 1943 compared to ~120 by the Japanese and ~200 by the British. The US would also produce ~47,000 tanks in 1943. If you think the Axis has it bad now, just you wait. From the Axis perspective, none of this has has happened yet. They’ve taken far less losses than any of their enemies. And as for grand strategic planning, the Germans are still in the Caucasus, and the Japanese plan of waging a defensive war to bleed the Americans out hasn’t been disrupted by overwhelming carrier air power yet. There’s no choice regardless. The war of extermination the Japanese started in the Pacific and in Asia along with the unprovoked sneak attack at Pearl Harbor means that the war will never end short of total victory or total defeat. It’s the same for Europe, Germany started a war of extermination against the Slavs, and the only country they ever declared war on was the USA as part of their alliance with the hated Japanese. There is no way the war in Europe ends short of total annihilation. While Churchill and FDR already think it’s a foregone conclusion, that doesn’t mean the Germans don’t have tricks up their sleeve and the question becomes how to win the war with as few casualties as possible. The question of if Stalin will make a separate peace, like he constantly threatens, is also on the table.
@Goldenspiderducck
@Goldenspiderducck 2 жыл бұрын
0:33 This gave me flashbacks to the time I tweeted that I didn’t care for the Star Wars sequels.
@gunman47
@gunman47 2 жыл бұрын
5:49 The mention of Claus von Stauffenberg here reminds me of the introduction of the 2008 movie *Valkyrie* , where he is badly injured by a P-40 Warhawk strafing attack in the scene. Tom Cruise does have a somewhat close mirror image of him at first glance, I must say.
@ISawABear
@ISawABear 2 жыл бұрын
14:46 and also the foreshadowing to the Bridge on the River Kwai
@JonnoHR31
@JonnoHR31 2 жыл бұрын
Just watched that movie 2 days ago, having no idea I was watching the intro in the correct week for this series!
@iDeathMaximuMII
@iDeathMaximuMII 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah it’s weird. Cruise has a striking resemblance to Von Stauffenberg at first glance
@davidcolin6519
@davidcolin6519 2 жыл бұрын
@@larrythorn6265 If you like his acting, that's fine. Personally, I can't think of a single film he has been in that wouldn't have been improved by almost any other actor.
@ISawABear
@ISawABear 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidcolin6519 tropic thunder.
@jacobpeters9452
@jacobpeters9452 2 жыл бұрын
How does this channel not have a million subscribers? This is pure gold. I've been a longtime fan of all the work timeghost has published. The overlords at KZbin have targeted these guys under the guise of "censorship". This is definitely the most under appreciated channel on KZbin.
@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo 2 жыл бұрын
We thank you a lot for your kind words and for being here!
@jacobpeters9452
@jacobpeters9452 2 жыл бұрын
@@WorldWarTwo This is a delightful surprise. Thank you for taking the time to reply. I've always admired the willingness to interact with the fanbase. Until the next one, farewell!
@CABOOSEBOB
@CABOOSEBOB 2 жыл бұрын
“You are Adolf hitler”… Well I certainly hope not
@Arbiter099
@Arbiter099 2 жыл бұрын
Signs you might be: you're stuck in a casino where you always win and you're always framed in shadow while an eloquent smoking man provides narration
@mjs3343
@mjs3343 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent presentation of detailed information. Simply Superb! Thank You!
@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you a lot!
@bcvetkov8534
@bcvetkov8534 2 жыл бұрын
Great episode as always guys. Keep up the great work.
@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you a lot!
@rashkavar
@rashkavar 2 жыл бұрын
Wish I had the money to do a memorial bit. I'd ask for you guys to shine a spotlight on the Royal Canadian Air Force Squadron 432, in honour of those who served and died in that squadron on behalf of my grandfather, Carl Miller. He served as a navigator on a bomber (whichever flew lower of the Lancaster or the Halifax). He held the rank of Flying Officer, though he the honorific Mr. over his military rank, wishing nothing more than to put the whole experience behind him. As far as I know, he never fully managed to do so, though I don't recall hearing of him suffering too terribly from the symptoms of PTSD, except during the Cuban Missile Crisis when the threat of a new World War had become so painfully real. Most of the few war stories he was willing to tell were complaints about the British officers in charge of his squadron. One such involved their assessment regarding the personal effects of another airman, shot down in action. All of the items issued to him on duty were accounted for, with the exception of exactly 1 uniform; thus they intended to bill the family for the cost of 1 uniform. My grandpa told off his CO about this because, of course, that uniform is what he had been wearing when his plane was shot down. Having been called out on it, they backed down and accepted the loss of the uniform. My grandfather served on 35 missions according to his memoirs, including a night run on the radar installation at Houlgate, France the night before D-Day (he and his crew were surprised to see, through a gap in the clouds over the English Channel, a rather large fleet in position to start the landing that would begin mere hours later), and earned the Distinguished Flying Cross, which all our evidence suggests was simply due to the number of successful missions and steady conduct throughout his service, rather than a single noteworthy act of bravery or heroism. (Though one man serving in the modern Canadian Armed Forces we asked about medal presentation and preservation indicated that the DFC would not have been given out for this reason.) He also insists in his memoirs that all of his targets were industrial or military targets, and that he never took part in the bombing of civilians. With what I've heard here about the British bombing strategy, I suspect this was either a lie told to him by his commanders or a lie he told himself in order to be able to live with what he had done. However, he served on bombing raids from April 10, 1944 to September 30, 1944, so I still have a sliver of hope that he was right and that by that point in the war, the British strategy had switched to these sorts of targets. (This doesn't necessarily help much - between the poor accuracy of WWII heavy bombers and the fact that most industrial targets probably would have been operating around the clock to try to produce as much as they could for the faltering German war effort, even with the intent to cripple industry rather than kill and terrorize civilians, it would be truly astonishing if none of the bombs dropped from his plane killed innocent civilians.) However, with all that said about my grandfather, I feel it likely he would have said the greater honour is due to those he served with, both those he served with on his bomber, and the rest of the squadron. His memoirs show a great admiration for these individuals, especially his pilot, Lloyd Evanson. (No rank is given in his memoirs.)
@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo 2 жыл бұрын
rashkavar, Thank you so much for sharing such intimate accounts from your grandfather's life. Amazing that he saw the D-Day fleet the night before, and helped the invasion with an attack on the radar station. I can't imagine what it was like to fly those missions, but it's an amazing piece of history you have in his memoirs. I hope you'll consider preserving them / transcribing them digitally. Thanks again and please stay tuned
@rashkavar
@rashkavar 2 жыл бұрын
@@WorldWarTwo The memoirs are already digitized, distributed among the family. I'll have to ask my cousin about how to go about properly preserving them - he's the one in the family with the history doctorate, and thus is almost certainly the authority on such things. (I suspect the idea of making his memoirs publicly available would be a controversial one for the family. Some likely feel that keeping them private is an issue of respecting his wishes to not talk about the war. But, at least to me, I feel that it should be made available, now that he has passed on. It's one thing to bring up traumatic memories to a man who'd rather let them lie, quite another to share that man's story after his passing.)
@christosvoskresye
@christosvoskresye 2 жыл бұрын
I think you meant to say, "That is very much easier said than Verdun."
@thebunkerparodie6368
@thebunkerparodie6368 2 жыл бұрын
something I really like with these weekly update is they talk about battle documentary won't talk or mention
@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching, we're very glad you enjoy the show!
@TheIvanNewb
@TheIvanNewb 2 жыл бұрын
For all that people may laugh at surrendering Italians today, they stopped fighting for a fascist regime when they could. The same cannot be said for all the Germans who kept fighting for the Nazi regime until the end. Thanks for another great episode. As much as decisions like the one made by a single Italian officer become footnotes (if that) in history books, they lead to immense suffering for the individuals. The amount of personal stories having to be glossed over because there are so many is insane. Thanks for telling this one.
@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo 2 жыл бұрын
You're welcome @Ivan Newb, thanks for watching with us.
@iDeathMaximuMII
@iDeathMaximuMII 2 жыл бұрын
Agree with everything you said. But maybe by 1945, I think the German Army was more fighting for survival than for Hitler
@Guerrerofascista2006
@Guerrerofascista2006 2 жыл бұрын
But a lot of italians keep fighting in the republican army until the end of the war
@dezbiggs6363
@dezbiggs6363 2 жыл бұрын
@@iDeathMaximuMII they were. They were fighting because they were scared of the soviet reprisals. You can read "Promise me you'll shoot yourself." That talks about the mass suicides because they were so scared.
@yomama9538
@yomama9538 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah how dare those Germans fight against the invader.
@AgentGWG
@AgentGWG 2 жыл бұрын
A haunting dedication, it really brought the episode to a pungent conclusion. Thank you to the sponsor.
@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Grant, glad you enjoyed the episode
@sjasloan
@sjasloan 2 жыл бұрын
New Zealand never had Jim Crow. People lived side by side. (But I am nor saying the relationship was perfect.) My late father grew up before WW2 in Opotiki near East Cape which is a big centre of Maori culture. The local Maori even gave him a Maori name.
@donjones4719
@donjones4719 2 жыл бұрын
As a Yankee American I've always been repulsed by racism and certainly the history of the Jim Crow laws. But those American troops took it to a new level when wanting to impose their will, their opinions, onto the the country they were guests in. Yes, they were there to defend NZ in the overall scheme of things but that's just... words fail me.
@sjasloan
@sjasloan 2 жыл бұрын
@@donjones4719 America has really changed. And for the better. Ketanji Brown Jackson is the new Supreme Court judge. Confirmed at a Senate meeting presided over by Vice President Harris, a black woman from California. Keep the faith! Best regards
@tams805
@tams805 2 жыл бұрын
Of course they didn't. The point was that some of the visiting Americans brought their attitudes with them. White (for lack of a better term) New Zealanders and British forces often stuck up for and fought for the blacks, Maori's etc.
@lucasbareis-golumb2388
@lucasbareis-golumb2388 2 жыл бұрын
That message at the end is chilling and heart breaking
@fjbz3737
@fjbz3737 2 жыл бұрын
This was a very well-done episode
@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@ldflightsim
@ldflightsim 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for mentioning the April 5th bombardment on Mortsel. The neighbourhood I live in is named for this event, and used to be the dump site for the rubble. Despite 936 dead and over 1300 wounded, almost all Belgian civilians, it took a long time for any recognition or remembrance to be possible, due to the damage being caused by allied planes.
@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo 2 жыл бұрын
Lars Thanks for sharing that about your neighborhood.
@jeffk3746
@jeffk3746 2 жыл бұрын
Excited we’re getting to the Italian civil war, very under reported aspect of WW2
@Nostripe361
@Nostripe361 2 жыл бұрын
Still hopping for a special on the US coast guard during the war and how it worked with the navy to fight U-boats. My grandfather actually worked in the Coast Guard around Greenland I believe. My mom told me a story of how when his ship returned to port, they sent out the next ship on patrol and that one was never heard from again; most likely sunk with all hands by a U-boat.
@domavner9321
@domavner9321 2 жыл бұрын
5:49 that guy looks interesting, wonder if we'll see him again.
@ForeignFella
@ForeignFella 2 жыл бұрын
I'm SO glad to see you again. I've missed you, dude.
@oneshotme
@oneshotme 2 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed your video and I gave it a Thumbs Up for support
@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@oneshotme
@oneshotme 2 жыл бұрын
@@WorldWarTwo You're welcome!!
@MaxwellAerialPhotography
@MaxwellAerialPhotography 2 жыл бұрын
Is it Bridge over the River Kwai time? I think it’s Bridge over the River Kwai time.
@al1395-y3d
@al1395-y3d 2 жыл бұрын
This series makes me realize how important was North Africa for the American military to gain the experience it needed to be successful in Europe. Can you imagine if this Patton was the one in France instead? Experience is wonderful.
@theredhunter4997
@theredhunter4997 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly I don’t know if I can agree with that, patton was extremely aggressive and brazen even before world war 2, and likely the experience was important for the lower level soldiers, but patton was more then likely following orders rather then being overly cautious, in these last couple of weeks
@Nyg5618
@Nyg5618 2 жыл бұрын
I love everything your channel does, but there is no weekly show on any platform that I look forward to more than the weekly Saturday recaps. As you guys have got more and more financial support from patreon, it seems as if just about every dollar appears on screen. More in depth research. More pictures and videos. Better and better maps… I could really go on. Bottom line: this is the best channel on KZbin. Thank you.
@pathutchison7688
@pathutchison7688 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Couldn’t have said it better. Thank you Indy, Astrid, Spartacus, Anna and all the other people who clearly work hard to make these videos so impressive.
@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo 2 жыл бұрын
@Pat Hutchison and @Ryan Marshall Thank you so much. The support we get from people like yourselves help us keep going from strength to strength, we really appreciate it.
@baki4341
@baki4341 2 жыл бұрын
The german 1. Mountain division will soon be a part of the axis force encircling the greatly outnumbered yugoslav partisans in what is known as the battle of Sutjeska. Hopefully you guys cover it on the channel
@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo 2 жыл бұрын
@Baki We can't know the future, but we will definitely cover it… whenever such action takes place.
@baki4341
@baki4341 2 жыл бұрын
@@WorldWarTwowell theres some rumors going around the army it will begin next month but you never know for sure with general Lohr, im sure he will do just fine. Thanks for responding in the time apropriate manner, its very cool
@stanbrekston
@stanbrekston 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent episode, & outstanding comments. I'm just trying to keep up with the incredible expertise & knowledge of the people who posts what they know, in this section. well done, gentlemen.
@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo 2 жыл бұрын
We really have the best community! Thanks a lot for watching!
@Shleemaa
@Shleemaa 2 жыл бұрын
Malaya Zemlya is Brezhnev's fighting ground! Can't believe you didn't mention Brezhnev!
@cipwreck68
@cipwreck68 2 жыл бұрын
I have photos of my Nonno as he entered the Regia Marina in Feb 43 as a young looking baby, I have a photo of him from November 1945 after nearly 1 year as a military internee in Austria and he aged about 20 years.
@TheGentlemanGamer
@TheGentlemanGamer 2 жыл бұрын
2:48 Or... easier said than Verdun.
@claudiox2183
@claudiox2183 2 жыл бұрын
The cover artworks of your videos are really, really amazing
@franklinkz2451
@franklinkz2451 2 жыл бұрын
No i am not Adolf Hitler Indy! …. Oh not in a literal sense, i get it! Ya had me worried for a few hours there
@davidr1037
@davidr1037 2 жыл бұрын
I love the weekly update videos:)
@gunman47
@gunman47 2 жыл бұрын
Another interesting event this week on April 7 1943 is that the British government will publish a plan from renowned British economist by *John Maynard Keynes* for the postwar economy. The plan included a proposal for an international monetary fund which could help any nation out of temporary financial difficulties. In return, that country would have to adopt policies aimed at restoring stability. This would eventually result in the creation of the *International Monetary Fund* on December 27 1945.
@AndreLuis-gw5ox
@AndreLuis-gw5ox 2 жыл бұрын
Ironic thay a guy that didnt manage to make a single correct economic prediction or even invest in a profitable enterprise during the Interwars managed to get hyped up like that
@georgenelson8284
@georgenelson8284 2 жыл бұрын
@@AndreLuis-gw5ox and yet his policies created the greatest economic boom in world history. Especially in the US.
@RK-cj4oc
@RK-cj4oc Жыл бұрын
​@@georgenelson8284His policies did not create that. All of europe being destroyed and desperatly trying to hold onto the 80% of the world they held while being destroyed caused a position never seen before where the US was the only actually developed country in the world for almost 5 years being militairly, economically, resources and technology and investement wise needed by every other single country.
@Rasta8889
@Rasta8889 Жыл бұрын
6:28 My maternal grandfather (originally from a small village near Gumbinnen) was likely amongst those, unless captured earlier. He was a bicycle mechanic by trade and became a british POW in Tunisia. From what he told after a while their captors got pretty lenient, allowing them to work for them and even leave the camp and visit the city. He got off pretty lucky I think, my other granddad was wounded and captured on the eastern front. He died in 2008 with 46 pieces of shrapnel still in his body.
@vincentsiracusa1599
@vincentsiracusa1599 2 жыл бұрын
Great episode as always guys. I have a question, request for your D-Day special and a story of my Grandparents in WW2 almost fighting against each other in Sicily (US vs Italy). First the question is I am seeing that you are marking on the Germany-USSR map that the USSR has Corp size units now. I was always under the understanding that he USSR did not have Corp sized units during WW2. So can you explain what you are marking as Corp units (3 X's XXX over the box) on the Eastern front? My request I thought of comes from episode this week on the German bunkers in WW2. I am hoping that during your special on D-Day you point out where the bunkers are on the beaches on D-Day are when you show a map of the beaches (the maps with the bunkers are easy to find in a Google search). I am hoping you do this because showing the maps of the bunkers and where the German units are stationed explains the Allied loses on D-Day in a great way. This is because going into D-Day it was known that the greatest amount of German bunkers and troops were defending Omaha beach. So the Allies knew going into D-Day that Omaha beach was going to be the most deadly beach by far which is also why D-Day was the only beach that had 2 divisions assigned to land on it in the first wave of attacks (it also had a 3rd division in reserve). All of the other beaches on D-Day had a single division assigned to taking them. When people think of D-Day today they think all of the beaches were like the opening scene in the movie 'Saving Private Ryan' (great movie). But in reality the other beaches on D-Day were much less well defended by the Germans. The Germans didn't actually have heavy defenses along the whole coast of France like the Nazi Propaganda tried to make the Allies think during WW2. There are many stories of Allied troops landing in the first wave on D-Day and not encountering enemy fire on the beaches and only starting to encounter German resistance after they got passed the beaches. And then the story I have I am bringing up because of the story of this weeks sponsor. In my family I had one Grandfather fighting in the US 1st Infantry division (the Big Red One) and then on my Dad's side of the family his Dad (my other Grandfather) and my Dad's uncles fought for the Italian Army during WW2. All 3 of my Grandfathers brothers were captured in Italy during the retreat from El Aleman to Tunis. My Grandfather was then captured in Sicily (he didn't fight in Africa) when the Allies invade there. My Grandfather and his brothers treatment by US and British soldiers during their captivity is what convinced them to move to the US after the war. Before my Grandfather passed away he always talked about how he was fed better in his whole life to that point as a prisoner of the US military then as he lived as a citizen and then a solider of Italy. As for combat he also always talked about how he barley even got to shoot his rifle in training and then when he was assigned to a unit to defend Sicily he was only given 2 clips of ammunition. One that was in his bolt action gun and then a spare. After he and his unit had fired all of their ammunition they then surrendered to the Americans. That was all the combat he saw during WW2. I wish I could say my 2 Grandfathers units actually fought against each other during WW2 but my Dad said they talked about their time in the war after my Dad and Mom were married and where they fought and determined that they were not close enough to each other to have fought each other. Because my Mom's Dad fought in the Big Red One which had the most combat experience out of any US division during WW2 fighting in North Africa, Sicily, being the lead division on Omaha beach on D-Day, fighting in France and then Germany. My Mom's Dad "only" fought in North Africa and Sicily before being assigned to training other soldiers in the US. I wish I had been able to ask my Dad's uncles about their experience during WW2 but they died before I was born. According to my Dad the 3 of them saw a lot of combat in North Africa. I also wish I could have asked both of my Grandfathers about their war experience myself. My Moms Dad died when I was 1 and my Dad's Dad died when I was 9. So I couldn't ask them much about the war myself. I do remember my Dad's Dad telling me the story about the good treatment he got as a prisoner by the USA and that the amount of food he got as a prisoner is what convinced him to move his family to the US once he got a green card (My Dad was born in Sicily Italy himself). My Dad's brothers also wanted to move to the US but couldn't get green cards so one settled on moving to Canada, another to Belgium and the last stayed in Sicily. So most of the info I have on the stories of all of their war experience come from my Dad and my uncles. Any one asking my age based on my KZbin picture though, I am only 32. My Dad and Mom only started having kids when they were older (my Dad was born in 1949) which is how someone as young as me had Grandparents fighting in WW2. If my Grandparents had actually fought against each other in WW2 on Sicily that is something that movies are made of is something I have always thought about. *I posted this again from my second Google account because my post is not showing up for some reason when I make the post from my main Google account*
@emiralpismail748
@emiralpismail748 2 жыл бұрын
Perhaps the number of divisions and units were to many to show. If you want to see all of the divisions you can watch eastory' eastern front series
@ToddSauve
@ToddSauve 2 жыл бұрын
Actually, Juno beach was very well defended and of all the Allied beaches assaulted on D Day, the Canadians suffered the highest number of dead in proportion to the number of troops attacking. Yes, even higher than "bloody Omaha." 359 Canadians were killed on June 6, 1944.
@Davey-Boyd
@Davey-Boyd 2 жыл бұрын
The Soviets did field Corps units in WWII. Especially Infantry, Cavalry and tank Corps. The thing is though a Soviet 'Corps' was nothing like say a British/US/German Corps. A Soviet Corps was way smaller and often without supporting elements.
@nickdanger3802
@nickdanger3802 2 жыл бұрын
@@ToddSauve 21,400 Canadians landed on 6 June. Losses 1,063. US losses at Omaha 2,500. D-Day figures - D-Day Overlord page
@nickdanger3802
@nickdanger3802 2 жыл бұрын
@@ToddSauve "More than 2,000 Americans were killed or wounded before Omaha was finally secured, the surf turning red with the blood of the dead and dying." The Canadian Encyclopedia D Day page
@jereschr
@jereschr 2 жыл бұрын
My great grandpa served as a lieutenant in Finland during ww2. He fought first in the winter war getting to shoot the infamous Suomi submachine gun. If i remember correctly, he did not get wounded in the Winter war, but during the continuation war he got badly wounded near his heart. The only thing that saved him from certain death was that the bullet was a tracer (The tracer still exists and the documents). The nurses did a great job and he recovered to fight in the front. If i remember correctly, in Rukajärvi. There is a story, where he was hiding under a tree with 5 of his colleagues, and a grenade hit the tree. 5 of the 6 men were killed, the only one left alive being my Great grandpa. Afterwards he was wounded once again in the hand. One instance where he got lucky was when a soviet soldier shot several bullets from his submachine gun and great grandpa was untouched, although he lost his favourite pants if that's a loss. One time he sprayed his submachine gun when securing a full retreat and killed multiple enemy soldiers. After the war he was convicted and stripped off of his rank when the Punainen Valpo (under Yrjö Leino) found out that he was a part of the Weapons cache case. He lived after the war, and died in 1976.
@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo 2 жыл бұрын
Jeres, Thank you for sharing about your Great grandpa. I can't imagine what he went through in those actions, how painful it must have been losing all his comrades and being shot with a tracer, as well as stripped of his rank. May he rest in peace.
@abeherbert6603
@abeherbert6603 2 жыл бұрын
Ouch, that Stauffenberg guy had a bad time. I suppose that's the war over for him, doubt his name will come up again...
@stefanjoeres7149
@stefanjoeres7149 2 жыл бұрын
So weird how they mention a random Wehrmacht soldier...
@johngetty3839
@johngetty3839 2 жыл бұрын
I'd like to thank you all for the pronunciations of some of the major players and geographical place names. I've been saying them phonetically for 70 years and they're almost always wrong. I took some German in high school, so I'm pretty close with those, but when it comes to Russian and French cities and Russian, Italian and Eastern European generals, I'm lost. Thanks again for the pronunciation lessons! 👍
@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo 2 жыл бұрын
John Thanks, the hosts work hard to present this history in the best way possible. Pronunciations are some very challenging parts of every episode across this global conflict, but we appreciate hearing your feedback. Thanks for the kind words & thanks for watching, please stay tuned
@КириллВольский-ц2ж
@КириллВольский-ц2ж 2 жыл бұрын
@@WorldWarTwo don't you have a Russian language consultant or simply a native speaker in the team? Honestly, there are virtually no problems with German but the Russian names sound just ridiculous. Almost every accent is false - in Russian it falls more often on the first syllable than on the last. As far as I understood, the Italian viewers have also noticed some funny mispronunciations.
@ageingviking5587
@ageingviking5587 2 жыл бұрын
You never cease to impress me INDY. Thank you.. Just a question; Do you have to practice a lot to get all these names right. You say all of them as if you actually are from their country of origin . Yes I am impressed. 🙂
@shaider1982
@shaider1982 2 жыл бұрын
14:04 Interesting, I did not know that the Bataan Death March took around a year before it was known to the rest world. Thanks again for the well reasearched video.
@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@evancrum6811
@evancrum6811 2 жыл бұрын
The Italian experience in WW2 has always interested me.
@Perkelenaattori
@Perkelenaattori 2 жыл бұрын
In case you want to see a good Italian war film, El Alamein: The Line of Fire from 2002. It's about the men of the 17th Pavia Division who were the rightmost Axis flank at El Alamein and got stuck against the Qattara depression during the battle as the 8th Army advanced. It's a very good film but quite hard to find.
@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion
@evancrum6811
@evancrum6811 2 жыл бұрын
@@Perkelenaattori On any streaming service??
@Perkelenaattori
@Perkelenaattori 2 жыл бұрын
@@evancrum6811 When I googled it said that it's on Amazon. Try there. If you've seen the German film "Stalingrad" you'll love this one too.
@davethompson3326
@davethompson3326 2 жыл бұрын
@@Perkelenaattori On YT kzbin.info/www/bejne/e5SanKKtjrGKhZY
@futuregenerationz
@futuregenerationz 2 жыл бұрын
What I really love about this series is that it's now 2022, and you're articulating some of the most relevant and powerful history, basically to the entire world. What I'm really loathe to do, is make any assumption about a single history source. But what you have here, in what is now the time ghost army, is a consensus. Is it a global consensus? To some degree I believe so. It's a process. But this consensus on history is actually more important than perhaps people realize. It is going to be essential to holding civilization together in the long run. I hope these discussions continue until long after the series is completed. I know that my mental capacity simply cannot contain all of this magnificent detail, but I'll try. I'll certainly enjoy the exposure(and of course, can watch again). The next step i guess is visualization; maybe even drama. Also, this is now a really trustworthy source; and should be sought for not only movie consultation, but perhaps to the computer gaming community. As an avid player of Darkest Hour(I prefer over HOI4) it allows me some...triangulation perhaps. But for a group devoted to history, I see so much future for you guys.
@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching, we're grateful to have an audience who takes these subjects seriously like we do.
@FH-hu5vn
@FH-hu5vn 2 жыл бұрын
"You are Adolf Hitler." Oh I don't like that.
@MrDwarfpitcher
@MrDwarfpitcher 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine him saying "Your ally dragged you into a war you asked him not to start. You and your people are really not prepared, but have to make do anyway. The Allies are already invading your colonies, and your people are demoralized. You are Mussolini" But for real. Mussolini wanted to expand his colonies a bit and conquer his Greek rival. He then got dragged into a World War his people didn't want and had to fight impossible odds. All the while a meth head with a funny mustache as telling him to do better from the top down. So if on the Axis side, being Hitler at this time is not that bad. And the fact that this can be speculated probably says enough for the near future of the Axis
@KiwiForce123
@KiwiForce123 2 жыл бұрын
The Battle of Manners Street! I live about 5 minutes away from it today.
@mrbushlied7742
@mrbushlied7742 2 жыл бұрын
My maternal grandfather, an Italian WW1 veteran and Communist, had to flee Italy when Mussolini took power.
@DM-hw4cr
@DM-hw4cr 2 жыл бұрын
Some of the best content on YT.
@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot, Daniel!
@FurobaOA
@FurobaOA 2 жыл бұрын
The bombardment on Antwerp was actually against Mortsel, a separate city 10km to the SE of Antwerp. The Minerva Automobile factory (not an airplane factory) there had been used to repair Messerschmitt Bf 109s by Erla with Belgian laborers under German supervision. Yes, the same Minerva that made Belgium's famed armoured cars active during the first world war on the early Western and Russian fronts. Just four bombs hit the factory, but caused a heavy fire that cost 307 workers their lives. Another bomb hit the nearby Gevaert chemical plant that manufactured film equipment, killing 41. This air raid was one of worst allied attacks against allied countries under Axis occupation in terms of civilian lives lost (936 people, including 209 children). Strong German defences caused allied bomber crews to overshoot their targets. The lack of accuracy turned into a diplomatic incident. Wish you would do a more detailed feature on this event.
@Raskolnikov70
@Raskolnikov70 2 жыл бұрын
Don't take this the wrong way, but what more is there to say about it? It was a horrible incident, one of many in a war that took a lot of innocent lives.
@steven230281
@steven230281 2 жыл бұрын
For those who want to find out more: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bYHZeIOFndSijJI
@firemochimc
@firemochimc 2 жыл бұрын
War Against Humanity will probably cover it.
@lijger1
@lijger1 2 жыл бұрын
@@Raskolnikov70 It caused more recruitment for volunteers.
@slick4401
@slick4401 2 жыл бұрын
8:24 - Here in the timeline begins the plot in the book "The Willing Flesh" by Willi Heinrich, also known as "Cross of Iron", made into a great film in 1977 by Sam Peckinpah.
@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the suggestions
@fns_ne_nme8441
@fns_ne_nme8441 2 жыл бұрын
Cue extra credits video: “look that’s you, a youtuber viewer enjoying content, when suddenly you’re a Nazi because you became Adolf Hitler” *theme song plays*
@jonasverhellen689
@jonasverhellen689 Жыл бұрын
The failed daylight raid on the Minerva airplane factory led to my existence. My grandfather was one of the civilian wounded, and met my grandmother (who was a nurse) in the hospital while recovering.
@massimoe.nicolin6067
@massimoe.nicolin6067 2 жыл бұрын
Damn, Masakazu Kawabi's got a hell of a 'stache
@Raskolnikov70
@Raskolnikov70 2 жыл бұрын
I got serious Budyonny vibes from that pic too.
@massimoe.nicolin6067
@massimoe.nicolin6067 2 жыл бұрын
@@Raskolnikov70 Right?!
@philipeagles
@philipeagles 2 жыл бұрын
Fascinating episode as usual team.
@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Philip!
@alexanderverlinden7714
@alexanderverlinden7714 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for mentioning the bombing of the Minerva factory in Belgium. My grandmother's house was bombed, she was home alone. Declared dead, she was brought to the morgue, where she woke up. Life time trauma there. Early 2000's I went to school where there was a direct hit during this bombing, killing most of the children in class. I hope when you get to December 1944 you will mention the bomb on cinema rex, also in Antwerpen, which (to my knowledge) was the largest casualties by a single bomb untill Hiroshima. Thanks for the great work on this channel!
@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching us, Alexander!
@quedtion_marks_kirby_modding
@quedtion_marks_kirby_modding 2 жыл бұрын
You people should do a video about the organisation of divisons and how they tend to become smaller as the war went on.
@manuelapollo7988
@manuelapollo7988 2 жыл бұрын
Was Italo Garibaldi related with Giuseppe Garibaldi?
@TheJojoaruba52
@TheJojoaruba52 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, as always…
@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching, Joe!
@SunniLeBoeuf
@SunniLeBoeuf 2 жыл бұрын
Great stuff as always, Indy. I know it was mentioned in a WAH episode, but is there any chance of a special on the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising? Despite the relatively small numbers involved, it’s a very pivotal & symbolically important point in Jewish history and I’d love to see some in-depth analysis on it.
@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo 2 жыл бұрын
Sparty will definitely be covering it on the War Against Humanity series.
@qpid8110
@qpid8110 2 жыл бұрын
"You are Adolf Hitler!" *Cues the Futurama reference* Eva Braun help me!
@malikcagatay7923
@malikcagatay7923 2 жыл бұрын
this yamamoto guy, better watch out
@pocketmarcy6990
@pocketmarcy6990 2 жыл бұрын
Man I sure hope nothing bad happens too him in the coming weeks
@jasonmussett2129
@jasonmussett2129 2 жыл бұрын
Another brilliant episode 👍😀
@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much Jason, we appreciate your support.
@skidmo
@skidmo 2 жыл бұрын
2:45 - could have driven a truck thru that missed joke opportunity, Indy. "Easier said than Verdun". I'll see myself out.
@Palpatine001
@Palpatine001 2 жыл бұрын
5:50 I sense we will be hearing about this von Stauffenberg somewhere later on in the War.
@stevenleslie8557
@stevenleslie8557 2 жыл бұрын
It's too bad he decided to get "tired" of the war in 1943. I mean, after all only a few hundred thousand men have died up to this point.
@FlagAnthem
@FlagAnthem 2 жыл бұрын
He was so "tired" he agreed to prolong the war for 2 years more once given the possibility. Not mentioning giving green light to the "proud boys of Salò" and the SS to pillage, rape and burn his own towns
@antoniodemunari3335
@antoniodemunari3335 2 жыл бұрын
One my old relative was an alpino and died during the retreat
@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo 2 жыл бұрын
@Antonio I can't imagine how difficult that must have been for those soldiers. May he rest in peace.
@iDeathMaximuMII
@iDeathMaximuMII 2 жыл бұрын
Yamamoto’s April is gonna full of I-Go, I-Went, I-Saw & I-Gone Also Kawabi got that Wilhelm facial hair 👌 Side note: Fuck you Italo Garibaldi
@greggweber9967
@greggweber9967 2 жыл бұрын
Now you know how long a wrong can be remembered.
@beachboy0505
@beachboy0505 2 жыл бұрын
1:50 German Generals are the worst in human history Romania 🇷🇴 loses two armies so far. Italy 🇮🇹 loses 1 army so far in Russia Hungary 🇭🇺 loses 1 army so far in Russia. German 6th army is completely destroyed in Stalingrad by being surrounded. The Afrika Korps and the entire Italian army is surrounded in Tunisia And it's only February 1943.
@kevindoyle1884
@kevindoyle1884 2 жыл бұрын
Love the show great episode
@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Kevin!
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