1938 Rubber-Powered "Skokie" - Start to Finish

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maxfliart

maxfliart

4 ай бұрын

A series of photos and movies showing the process of building the 25" rubber-powered free-flight model airplane, the 1938 Jimmie Allen "Skokie". Built & flown by Tom Hallman in 2022. Plan & kit available below. Filmed and photographed by Tom Hallman and Pete Kaiteris, using an iPhone 11 & 14 Pro, a Nikon D3400 70-300mm, and a Canon PowerShot SX20 IS. Music via the talented musicians at artist.io, who breathe life into my films.
Free plan for the Jimmie Allen Skokie: outerzone.co.uk/plan_details....
Updated plan of the Skokie (or BA Cabin): outerzone.co.uk/plan_details....
Skokie laser cut kit from Easy Built Models: easybuiltmodels.com/ff12lc.ht...
Free-Flight Basics #1 about braiding motors: • Free Flight Basics #1 ...
Free-Flight Basics #4 about thrust plates and nose blocks: • Free Flight Basics #1 ...
*** 10 steps to trimming a rubber model, by John Koptonak: www.flyingacesclub.com/PFFT/Tr...
Also, these tutorials from Easy Built Models: easybuiltmodels.com/tips.htm#...
Here's a source for rubber: www.faimodelsupply.com/produc...
Rubber turns calculator: hallmanstudio.com/rubber_turns...
Article on the use of dethermalizers: www.hallmanstudio.com/DT.pdf
Badge Classic DT & spring (at the bottom of the page): www.starlink-flitetech.com/tim...
Looking for a Flying Aces Club near you? Check out this link: flyingacesclub.com/wp/about-th... If you click on the map at the area closest to you, it will automatically bring up an information request link. That request goes to FAC GHQ and also to the Squadron Commander of record for that squadron.
For more info on free-flight rubber-powered models, check these websites:
brooklyn-balsa.square.site
www.easybuiltmodels.com/
www.volareproducts.com/BUY/
www.flyingacesclub.com
National Free Flight Society - freeflight.org/
Mike Stuart's Flying Scale Models - www.ffscale.co.uk/
www.freeflightsupplies.co.uk
Flying Aces Club merchandise: www.cafepress.com/flyingacesclub
All profits support Flying Aces Club activities.
Center of Gravity merchandise: www.cafepress.com/centergravity

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@paulnelson5314
@paulnelson5314 4 ай бұрын
I used to dread covering my models, any type, size. That is, until I came upon this channel. Now I revel in the “ confetti fest”, because it is “therapeutic”. Thanks Tom. Beautiful video, as usual.
@lubomirmojzes
@lubomirmojzes 4 ай бұрын
Absolutely beautiful. The romance of modelling. :-)
@NANNIRC
@NANNIRC 4 ай бұрын
I remained attached to the screen all time long. Thank you for sharing your secrets. No words to express my respect for your art and skill. Ciao Nanni
@willgraves5288
@willgraves5288 4 ай бұрын
Oh. For Zinnia. Brought a tear. Of joy. Looks like a stout model, like your heart must be.
@jetflyer102
@jetflyer102 4 ай бұрын
I love these type of build and fly videos. Great job friend.
@andykovacs4595
@andykovacs4595 3 ай бұрын
Would appreciate any details on your D/T installation. Beautiful job as always.....
@maxfliart
@maxfliart 3 ай бұрын
Thx for the comments. I used a DT system similar to the Fokker, Waco & Mureaux shown near the end of this article. www.hallmanstudio.com/DT.pdf
@andykovacs4595
@andykovacs4595 3 ай бұрын
Thank you very much for your detailed explanation of the different types of D/Ts you've used. I have built many models using D/Ts but never tried to put one inside the fuselage. I'm currently building a Jimmy Allen "Skokie" and would like to try your method. Your excellent article and pictures allows me to not have to "reinvent the wheel". Extremely helpful. Thanks again.......@@maxfliart
@michaelgillespie1206
@michaelgillespie1206 4 ай бұрын
This is one of the models I plan on building, I just haven't been to the print shop yet.
@daveb7811
@daveb7811 3 ай бұрын
My BA Cabin AKA "Skokie" is an awesome flier. Fairly easy build, you won't be disappointed.
@user-zu7wg9ob2h
@user-zu7wg9ob2h 4 ай бұрын
Glorious! brings me back to a simpler time of my youth.God bless!!
@bobi2582
@bobi2582 4 ай бұрын
Wonderful, all round. Well done - again! Jealous of your flying field and the beautiful weather. We rarely get days like this in the UK these days.
@paulwoodman5131
@paulwoodman5131 4 ай бұрын
ZZ sure looked proud of her namesake, and flew a beautiful dawn sunrise 🌄 flight.
@thomasnelson2979
@thomasnelson2979 Ай бұрын
handsome plane
@harrykeel8557
@harrykeel8557 4 ай бұрын
It bears repeating, this is what it's all about. And ZZ is a great pilot.
@MrBigChris620
@MrBigChris620 4 ай бұрын
Wow just a beautiful airplane! Your an amazing builder flyer! The sunset flight at the end was Epic!
@maxfliart
@maxfliart 4 ай бұрын
Thx. It was a sunrise, but memorable for sure. I was surprised that she flew that long in the cooler, damp air.
@wilsonhardy2100
@wilsonhardy2100 4 ай бұрын
Love all the Jimmy Allen airplanes. My favorite is the B-A Parasol. They all fly very well and are so beautiful.
@maxfliart
@maxfliart 4 ай бұрын
I was late to the Jimmie Allen party, but I've really enjoyed the ride. My fav. so far is the Spartan Bomber.
@BooDevil65
@BooDevil65 4 ай бұрын
Beautiful plane, beautiful video - took me back to the paper & balsa I built in the 70s - and the smell of the dope :) You've captured the essence and romanticism of model building and flight all in 18 minutes. May there be endless sky above you. Happy flying.
@maxfliart
@maxfliart 4 ай бұрын
Thx for the kind words.
@alaincassamani9108
@alaincassamani9108 4 ай бұрын
Super ! Beau travail...me rappelle mon enfance ! J aimerais bien avoir le plan!
@maxfliart
@maxfliart 4 ай бұрын
Merci. Le lien du plan est dans la description du fil
@ramonmedina1974
@ramonmedina1974 4 ай бұрын
Awesome! Well done !
@bokusimondesu
@bokusimondesu 4 ай бұрын
Beautiful 😊
@sandfac3427
@sandfac3427 4 ай бұрын
Wonderful video!!
@roryglobalactivites4054
@roryglobalactivites4054 4 ай бұрын
Very nice thanks for sharing
@xroppa5290
@xroppa5290 4 ай бұрын
Excellent
@doveboyz857
@doveboyz857 4 ай бұрын
So beautiful ❤
@lasvegasflagsign5399
@lasvegasflagsign5399 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing your wonderful techniques!
@ottogoschenbugel7159
@ottogoschenbugel7159 4 ай бұрын
Phenomenal 👍🙃👍.
@dginia
@dginia 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing your talent and so many tips.
@vancegilbert1958
@vancegilbert1958 4 ай бұрын
It put perfect yes. Bootiful.
@zacharyschnepp4860
@zacharyschnepp4860 4 ай бұрын
Beautiful plane nice flyer
@Colin399
@Colin399 4 ай бұрын
Nice model nice graphics 🎉
@mjkluck
@mjkluck 4 ай бұрын
Good stuff, Bubs.
@hangflyer907
@hangflyer907 4 ай бұрын
Some great construction and covering tips. Thank you!
@maxfliart
@maxfliart 4 ай бұрын
Thx.
@marcolyott
@marcolyott 4 ай бұрын
Another great video, so thank you! I've had this model on my wish list to build for a year or so and as you say, it's a great model to build for a first or second free flight rubber model. Looking forward to your next video Tom!
@maxfliart
@maxfliart 4 ай бұрын
Good luck with it!
@nilim9606
@nilim9606 4 ай бұрын
🇲🇫🇲🇫🇲🇫the flights are perfect. I like to see the construction stages. well done🇲🇫🇲🇫🇲🇫
@johnlouden8978
@johnlouden8978 4 ай бұрын
Beautiful. Zinnia is an excellent pilot.
@maxfliart
@maxfliart 4 ай бұрын
Thx, John. I love having her up front. When I see her from the ground, it gives me a smile.
@nairolf169
@nairolf169 4 ай бұрын
Merci 👍🫶👋
@williamrobinson7435
@williamrobinson7435 4 ай бұрын
Build included style videos are so great, Tom. So much to learn, and not just for beginners either! It's great that you named this wonderful Skokie for Zinnia. A great flyer, and a simple enough cabin model, as you say, for most folks to have a go at. I like the black front decking/prop, it gives gravitas whilst allowing the overall scheme to be nice and colourful! Hoping all well, and at Flying Aces too. As ever, MOST impressive. ⭐👍
@maxfliart
@maxfliart 4 ай бұрын
Thx, William.
@XXfea
@XXfea 4 ай бұрын
🥰😍🤩😘 Thank you . . . .
@stevedrake1861
@stevedrake1861 4 ай бұрын
Another beautiful model and video. Your talent for staging the still images and video clips really elevates the videos to a professional level. When I was flying R/C or control line planes, my favorite part was actually the building process and I can tell that you probably feel the same way. I wonder if the makers of the "Skokie" model kit would have dreamed that the model would still be being built almost 90 years later. Also, thanks for taking the time to compile the extensive list of resources in the description.
@maxfliart
@maxfliart 4 ай бұрын
Thx, Steve. I appreciate the kind words. Process has always intrigued me, so during the building, I can't help but recognize the changing light, especially in the morning, where I build.
@ArcStriker
@ArcStriker 4 ай бұрын
Beautiful job, great to see these vintage type aircraft still being built! I recently purchased a Keil Kraft Caprice sailplane which was the first FF I ever built with my dad, and plan to convert to RC, something that would not have been easily possible in the 80's. There is something oddly calming though about launching a plane and just watching it fly with an uncontrollable fate.
@maxfliart
@maxfliart 4 ай бұрын
Thx for the comments. I've found a lot of joy & satisfaction from building the models from our youth. I'm still looking to build a Sinbad glider of undetermined span. Should be a floater. Truly loving towline gliders these days.
@marcolyott
@marcolyott Ай бұрын
@@maxfliart Hi Tom, can I suggest the Sinbad 40 - Outerzone oz 3869, I'm part way through building this from the plan and as you say, this design certainly gives a floater plane. Cheers, Marc
@maxfliart
@maxfliart Ай бұрын
@@marcolyott Good suggestion, Marc...one that I've been chasing all my life, as it was the first model that I remember seeing my dad fly in the late 50s. I have the kit & plan in many of the Sinbad sizes, but have not yet built her. The 40 is moving higher on my build list for sure.
@alaincassamani9108
@alaincassamani9108 4 ай бұрын
C'est avec les choses simples,que nous prenons nos plus grands plaisirs en aéromodélisme !
@maxfliart
@maxfliart 4 ай бұрын
Oui, c’est sûr, j’aime les sensations bon marché du vol libre.
@JefferyHall-ct2tr
@JefferyHall-ct2tr 4 ай бұрын
Hi Tom! The Skokie is probably one of the best fliers of the JA planes. It is somewhat reminiscent of the Flying Aces Moth, another fine flier. I own one of those Country Club aero Thunderbolt kits as you showed earlier in the video, a COOL piece! I also own a rather rare TOMASCO kit of the Thunderbolt. It is a LOW wing plane with a nose very like a P-6-E Hawk. Interesting model! The sponsor for that one was a different Oil Company from The CC Aero Thunderbolt, which was a Skelly sponsorship. The Skokie is also known as the B.A. Cabin, as the British-American Oil Company sponsored it in Canada. REALLY neat stuff! Thanks for sharing your BEAUTIFUL build! Very inspiring!
@maxfliart
@maxfliart 4 ай бұрын
Thx, Jeffery. As uv said, I like how some of the JA ships mimic full scale models. I'm a huge fan of flying the Spartan Bomber...epic flights.
@davestambaugh7282
@davestambaugh7282 4 ай бұрын
This is incredible! In California anyone trespassing on a sod farm is going to jail.
@stevejohnson3991
@stevejohnson3991 2 ай бұрын
Tom, you are such an inspiration - thank you for these videos. I have learned so much from these. A question or two about applying tissue - you mention around 10:00 about using an emory board to help with the damp tissue - but I thought you apply the tissue dry? Mist afterwords? or before?
@maxfliart
@maxfliart 2 ай бұрын
Thx, Steve. I cover with the tissue dry, but then float the rubbing alcohol thru the tissue onto the frame, which softens the glue, allowing you to move the tissue and pull it tight with the emery board.
@MrMcDaver
@MrMcDaver 4 ай бұрын
Another beautiful build and video! I just really love the way you compose your videos and the music you add. I recently discovered your channel and really appreciate your content. I've been thinking of building the Easy Built Models Skokie for now and maybe plans built later. Do you use Titebond for all your balsa glue joints? Thanks!
@maxfliart
@maxfliart 4 ай бұрын
Thx. Yes, most of the joints use Titebond, with the occasional super glue.
@briansilcox5720
@briansilcox5720 4 ай бұрын
I’ve made foam wheels on my drill press, but never thought of turning them on a dowel to provide a good bearing surface when trimmed… thanks!
@maxfliart
@maxfliart 4 ай бұрын
Thx, Brian. I've spun them with as small as 1/16" dia. dowels...for very small wheels of course. I probably could've gone smaller with this for the Skokie, 3/16" perhaps, but she's somewhat of a brute, so I opted for the 1/4".
@edsmith7477
@edsmith7477 4 ай бұрын
I have always liked the Skokie. Question, Did you use the original undercamber rib design, or use a flat bottom variant? I like your interpretation of the landing gear struts, What wire dia. did you use? Thanks for sharing Tom.
@maxfliart
@maxfliart 4 ай бұрын
Thx, Ed. Yes, I used the under camber. I think it's .047" wire. The Skokie is a bit beefy, so it has helped to stay with a thicker wire.
@paulhelman2376
@paulhelman2376 4 ай бұрын
Nicem re Lia ble "commercial" design from the 3's. We livem in Wnil,enter just next to Skokie, Illinois.Both town and cabin ,ode l named after Indian tribe.
@offtopicjes
@offtopicjes 4 ай бұрын
beautiful! your models always look soo good, this is an interesting one. Were can i find plans?
@maxfliart
@maxfliart 4 ай бұрын
Thx. Links are in the film description.
@aeromodeller1
@aeromodeller1 4 ай бұрын
Elmer's Clear worked well.
@paulhelman2376
@paulhelman2376 4 ай бұрын
I am sorry for the garbled note. A cabin design was termed a "Vom,ercial." A So Skokie an Indian tribe .
@UguysRnuts
@UguysRnuts 4 ай бұрын
Another masterpiece! Things have changed since I used to build. Gluesticking the tissue on and no more doping, for instance. Does the Krylon matte spray tension the paper? I recall spritzing my covering with water, if memory serves. Thanks Tom.
@maxfliart
@maxfliart 4 ай бұрын
Thx. No, the water still shrinks the tissue, but the Krylon is like magic in a can, since it freezes the tissue 'after' the tish is shrunk with water...meaning the tissue will never shrink beyond that point, with the benefit being that warps will rarely appear. Not the same with dope of course. Now the tissue will surely wrinkle in the damp morning or evening air, but once it goes tight again, it'll stop shrinking too tightly. If that's bothersome, then go with dope, which creates a tough skin of sorts...but comes with the potential of the warp monster.
@UguysRnuts
@UguysRnuts 4 ай бұрын
@@maxfliart Copy that. Thank you sensei.
@chanstage
@chanstage 4 ай бұрын
I'd like to see you build a Nakajima ki 43 model airplane start to finish.
@47stampe
@47stampe 4 ай бұрын
Beautiful , what are you using for a camera .
@maxfliart
@maxfliart 4 ай бұрын
Thx. I've listed my cams in the film description, but for most of the flying footage, I'm using a rather old Canon PowerShot SX20. It's only 720p, but the 20X optical zoom gets u close enough for FF. Other B roll footage is with various iPhones.
@davidbarfield1431
@davidbarfield1431 3 ай бұрын
A few curiosities on my part. What is you method of applying windows, etc. to your models? I see on this one that the side windows are on the outside of the fuselage frame and the aft side is just squared off. Also saw on another video that the "pilots and passengers" seemed to be attached to the window itself. What type of adhesive is used to prevent obscuring the clarity of the images or fogging the plastic? Beautiful flyer as ever by the way.
@maxfliart
@maxfliart 3 ай бұрын
Using a pin, I attach with small spots of CA on the corners and mid-span, then cap with tissue or card stock. The pilots are glued to the longerons, which gives the impression of being right up against the windows. This time however I had her centered on a thick piece of card stock for flex, attached to the fus. cross piece...but eventually the rubber knocked her loose, so now I put them on the sides as described. Thx for asking and for the kind words.
@davidbarfield1431
@davidbarfield1431 2 ай бұрын
@@maxfliart Thanks, producing a Jr. Commercial now and will add my pilots that way. Is that a brass thrust button on the nose and where are they sourced?
@maxfliart
@maxfliart 2 ай бұрын
@@davidbarfield1431 The brass buttons that I used came from a '40s hobby shop, but you can create the same using four pronged nailheads, then drilling the hole for the prop shaft. Here's a link, many options: www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=four+prong+nailhead&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
@JasonChoi-pc3st
@JasonChoi-pc3st 4 ай бұрын
I just started my long forgotten hobby, but I can’t find any rubber itself in Canada, do you have any idea? also tissue, I got few from online store, I could start this hobby, 30years ago stopped, I thought it was silly things but never forget my dream and my kids encouraged me to build airplane again. I can start to build gliders for a while. if I can find any rubber, I want to build airplane like you built, for my kids. kids likes your airplane so much so do I. beautiful job and also your beautiful life, I think.
@maxfliart
@maxfliart 4 ай бұрын
Welcome back to the hobby. Have you tried ordering from any of the groups listed in the film description? I have many flying friends in Canada, and I've not heard of any issues with getting supplies. Most of us buy rubber from FAI Model Supply, who sells internationally.
@mrratskins
@mrratskins 4 ай бұрын
Hey! What was the weight differential between the balsa and foam wheels?
@maxfliart
@maxfliart 4 ай бұрын
The foam wheels were each 1.2g, while the balsa were nearly twice that...yet I decided to go old school with this model and stay with balsa. I was trying to build it as close to how my dad would've in the late 1930s.
@nikunjnikee
@nikunjnikee 4 ай бұрын
Which rubber do you use?
@maxfliart
@maxfliart 4 ай бұрын
Most buy it at FAI Model Supply.
@sailr
@sailr 4 ай бұрын
I see some free flight rubber planes that circle right under power and then circle left under glide. How does that work?
@maxfliart
@maxfliart 4 ай бұрын
There are many factors that lead to a model flying left or right. The initial torque of a motor wants to pull the model to the left, so we counter that with right thrust. As the torque wears off, the thrust setting is less impactful, so the model can slide or transition to the left. The opposite can happen too, if the modeler prefers to fly left, with the torque. Typically, the free-wheeling prop wants to pull the model gently to the right after the power runs out. All of this can be tweaked, by using rudder adjustments, or wing tip weight, or gurney flaps under or above the trailing edge of the wing. It's the game we all play, but once you've dialed in a model, it's quite beautiful.
@nikunjnikee
@nikunjnikee 4 ай бұрын
Can you make one more plane of framming jig method but full process
@maxfliart
@maxfliart 4 ай бұрын
Check out my Free-Flight Basics series, where you';ll see many films on the building process.
@nikunjnikee
@nikunjnikee 4 ай бұрын
Iam asking a new video
@MikeDoughty-gv4co
@MikeDoughty-gv4co 4 ай бұрын
Perhaps show how to drill a centered hole in the end of a dowel. Good demo for making the wheels and showing them installed but never how to get the hole there. Free Flight
@maxfliart
@maxfliart 4 ай бұрын
Yeah, that's one part that I hadn't filmed. An oversight. I cut the one side of the dowel close to the hub, then use a push pin to start a pilot hole, adjusting as needed to find that center point, while I slowly spin the wheel / dowel with my hand. I'll start drilling with a pin vise, eyeballing the drilling as I spin the wheel (and dowel on the other side ) with my other handle. I'm usually successful with coming close to center on the other side, once I trim it off. But yes, it'd be a good tutorial to show the process fully. Thx for the heads up.
@michaelgillespie1206
@michaelgillespie1206 4 ай бұрын
Where can I get some of the dethermalizers that you use?
@maxfliart
@maxfliart 4 ай бұрын
Only the Badge classic is available but it's reliable. The link is in the film description.
@johnmcdermott245
@johnmcdermott245 4 ай бұрын
The link seems to be broken. @@maxfliart
@maxfliart
@maxfliart 4 ай бұрын
@@johnmcdermott245 Thx for the heads up. He's changed his website, so I'll revise the link. Here it is, with the Badge timer at the bottom for $20. He usually sells 3 for $50 if you ask. www.starlink-flitetech.com/timers.html
@nikunjnikee
@nikunjnikee 4 ай бұрын
The propeller of the plane should heavy or the plane should heavy than propeller?
@maxfliart
@maxfliart 4 ай бұрын
The prop is usually much lighter than the rest of the model.
@aeromodeller1
@aeromodeller1 4 ай бұрын
The old sport planes used balsa propellers and therefore had long noses. If you substitute a heavy plastic prop, you will need to shorten the nose accordingly during construction, or add ballast to the tail (Not good for moment of inertia).
@johnstott5056
@johnstott5056 4 ай бұрын
What is the purpose of the foam wheels?
@maxfliart
@maxfliart 4 ай бұрын
I was considering the foam because they're somewhat lighter than the balsa wheels. A lighter model leads to longer flights.
@paulwomack5866
@paulwomack5866 Ай бұрын
A newbie (falling down a balsa/tissue aircraft KZbin rabbit hole) asks; You applied the tissue amazingly evenly. But you didn't show the tissue being shrunk or treated in any way before or after application. Was this simply omitted from the video for brevity, or was it not needed?
@maxfliart
@maxfliart Ай бұрын
Thx for the question. Yes, in this video I didn't show the entire process. But check out this Free-Flight Basics #2 for a complete film on covering, a wing in this case. kzbin.info/www/bejne/d5CrkqNmnLlshsk It shows the shrinking of the tissue at the 17 minute mark. It also shows the prep work. Check out the entire series. There's a lot there for FF newbies. Have fun!
@paulwomack5866
@paulwomack5866 Ай бұрын
@@maxfliart Thanks for that, I've headed for the whole "basics" playlist. It's not an insurmountable issue, but the order of the playlist doesn't match the numbers in the episode titles?
@nikunjnikee
@nikunjnikee 4 ай бұрын
How to make double propeller rubber powered plane
@maxfliart
@maxfliart 4 ай бұрын
Look for the MiG-DIS and Hodek model airplanes on my channel. Both are twins.
@aeromodeller1
@aeromodeller1 4 ай бұрын
@@maxfliart A very effective dethermalizer is a fixed propeller - no freewheeler. Optimal motor lands just as the last turn comes out of the motor. Easier weight and balance.
@horrido666
@horrido666 4 ай бұрын
Free flight rules. Strap an engine on it, and let her go.
@aeromodeller1
@aeromodeller1 4 ай бұрын
My comment keeps getting deleted. Try again. I will leave out the link. Stick glue breaks delicate structures, is hard to get on evenly and leaves lumps. I experimented with dissolving it in isopropyl alcohol. 70% didn't work well, but 91% did. Different glue brands worked differently. Elmer's clear dissolved completely. Others left a residue, but the supernatant worked. Make a saturated solution. Apply with a brush, enough to leave a gloss. It dries tacky, so the tissue can be repositioned. Final fixing with brushed alcohol and finger pressure, as in the video.
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