1946 John Deere AR engine oil and gear oil change.. What a mess🤮 part 1

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BILLSTMAXX

BILLSTMAXX

5 жыл бұрын

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@FordExplorer420
@FordExplorer420 5 жыл бұрын
It's going to happen because of the Four Seasons moisture likes to build up in those engines and that's why you get water must do frequent oil changes keep the water out or use a oil filter water separator
@carltona6429
@carltona6429 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed that is exactly what is happening.
@dawsonwarnock9048
@dawsonwarnock9048 5 жыл бұрын
I love the old look of the tractor and some new
@dougward1779
@dougward1779 5 жыл бұрын
Bill is excited about his AR JD. Good to see
@martinbenton742
@martinbenton742 5 жыл бұрын
I just across his video. I naturally had to watch. I had an early 49 unstyled AR. not near as clean as yours but ran like a Swiss watch. I sold it 4 years ago to buy my son a pickup to drive to school. Yes I miss the tractor. The only one like it in our area. People really enjoyed it in parades and tractor shows. MB BAR RANCH
@zx8401ztv
@zx8401ztv 5 жыл бұрын
It has issues but it's still a nice tractor bill :-D Not sure where the water/oil are changing places, a small head gasket leak perhaps. I would do the coolant and oil change and see if it repeats the effect.
@dtec30
@dtec30 5 жыл бұрын
i like that the bug had to escape i bet he was thinking bloody hell theres a lot of oil in here lol
@dtec30
@dtec30 5 жыл бұрын
would using air solenoid valves make the decompression work while on the tractor or would that take some of the quaintness out of it ?
@jeffreymurdock8366
@jeffreymurdock8366 5 жыл бұрын
For the gear oil area run diesel fuel in there. For the engine use cheap oil and a oil flush from the parts store for a little while. That will flush everything out. That drip you think is the coolant area looks more like the base of a hydraulic pump. Could be wrong on that though.
@rustyoldjunk
@rustyoldjunk 5 жыл бұрын
The water is probly condensation like others said. We always loosen the drain plug until it almost comes out and the water will drain off. Happens when it’s humid, temp change, or if they set out during a rainstorm. Same goes for transmission oil. If u drain it off before starting it won’t mix w the oil. To flush transmission and rear end we jack up one tire n put it in gear and run it a few minutes with diesel in it. that way there’s no real pressure on the bearings. Don’t want it falling off jack lol. Also the regulator may need to be polarized after unhooking battery, switch is for high-low charge I think.
@regsparkes6507
@regsparkes6507 5 жыл бұрын
Bill, when I was working with older engines and stuff,..i.e. Willys Jeeps, I was told that instead of a ammeter,..it is better to use a volt meter. You can see the charging rate much easier with a volt meter. Where we're working with liquids these days remember that mostly in North American we are either US measure or litres,..with that in mind 5 U.S. gallons would be approx. 18.9 litres.
@chadder19k
@chadder19k 5 жыл бұрын
Hey bill you were saying about the manual said about getting flushing oil to clean the rear end out, is diesel fuel or kerosene it will work just as good as the flushing oil does and then you can use it to make a fire and burn brush and have a bonfire with the family
@mattk9907
@mattk9907 5 жыл бұрын
I heard that if u put a little deseil in with the oil it can help clean it out.
@matnaylor8939
@matnaylor8939 3 жыл бұрын
There's water in the oil because of condensation build up these are renown for it they sweat due to temp changes in the air the water displaces the oil and sinks to the bottom that's why it comes out first when you pull the drain plugs ,regular checks are a must if the tractor has been standing for a long while .
@carltona6429
@carltona6429 5 жыл бұрын
Old farmers trick is to fill it with diesel fuel and run it around the yard for about 10 minutes to flush the engine out before adding the new oil.
@billstmaxx
@billstmaxx 5 жыл бұрын
wouldn't that wash off and damage bearings?
@carltona6429
@carltona6429 5 жыл бұрын
@@billstmaxx since the diesel fuel has oil in it to lubricate the fueling system it won't damage the bearings. But it will put the old oil in a suspension state to wash the engine from the inside. It sounds strange but it really does work. I've done it myself and seen it done as well.
@firestarspelt
@firestarspelt 5 жыл бұрын
may want to use high sulfur diesel if you can get it if your going to do that the ultra low sulfur stuff is not near as good of a lubricant as the higher sulfur stuff
@Kuulanth
@Kuulanth 5 жыл бұрын
When they sit outside water can seep in through the crank case cover and the governor housing. Also they are supposed to have straight 30 weight oil in the summer and straight 10 weight in the winter for easier starting.
@johnr8476
@johnr8476 5 жыл бұрын
Need to put a pressure tester on your radiator and see if it leaks down, if it does maybe try to find a smoke machine and hook up to cooling system some place while the oil plug is out and see if smoke comes out of oil pan. Lot of ways water can get into the oil, from sitting out in the rain or pressure washing, to a cracked block or head gasket, leaking cylinder liners, if it has any?
@tylernicolan4013
@tylernicolan4013 5 жыл бұрын
Like everyone already said.... Diesel to flush the gear set. I’d say that waters condensation build up, happens when they sit around not getting up to temp frequently 👍🏼
@chadder19k
@chadder19k 5 жыл бұрын
Also bill I don’t know if you know this or not but in the fire department I run with we get a rubber gasket that isn’t good or hard or don’t want to buy a new or can’t get a new one we take and clean the old one up and put vaseline on the gasket and let it set for a while and it brings the gasket back to life so you might want to try this if your oil filter gasket if in rough shape
@bigdawg5187
@bigdawg5187 5 жыл бұрын
With the oil in the radiator, and water in oil could possibly be a damaged head gasket, I have seen thin before in other old 2 cylinder tractors
@2005GLI
@2005GLI 5 жыл бұрын
Time to pour yourself a nice concrete pad outside the big shed to have some level ground to do work on and not bein the mud/gravel.
@jamesmaroon6161
@jamesmaroon6161 5 жыл бұрын
hey Bill. Its me again. I don't really know much about diesel tractors, you know more than I do. On the charging system, since its on a generator, could you check the leads coming from the generator to the battery to see if it is charging. On the water and oil issue, due you think it might be the head gasket? because sometimes if any part of the jackets on the head gasket would let water into the oil. I am just guessing at this point. Take care brother. Happy Easter
@danphelps9407
@danphelps9407 5 жыл бұрын
I remember when I was a kid, we would substitute 1 quart of kerosene per gallon of oil to flush engines, ie 3quarts oil and 1 quart kerosene
@Chris-fl9hk
@Chris-fl9hk 5 жыл бұрын
Fill the crank case with diesel drive around for 15 or 20 mins then drain it will flush it out
@chevygraveyard
@chevygraveyard 5 жыл бұрын
U should run a zinc additive in old motors like stp. Or Lucas ENGINE BREAK-IN OIL ADDITIVE - TB ZINC PLUS
@canadianmade9047
@canadianmade9047 5 жыл бұрын
Great vid bill, can you draw pictures and show us what you were doing at your garage please, because you can’t bring your camera down to your garage. Thanks :)
@billstmaxx
@billstmaxx 5 жыл бұрын
painting parts for the AR tractor today
@loydcourson5276
@loydcourson5276 5 жыл бұрын
Yup the gray oil is water mixed in.
@josephpaulsen7999
@josephpaulsen7999 5 жыл бұрын
Do you plan on bringing this to any tractor shows???
@Wolfhound.
@Wolfhound. 5 жыл бұрын
wont really know if it has a problem until after all the fluids are changed by your self then in the coming months if water gets in the oil or oil gets in the rad then you will know you have a problem and yes under load of like a plow or something they sound way cooler can hear the booming from the exhaust from quite a distance
@QALibrary
@QALibrary 5 жыл бұрын
I would do a water/coolant flush out as well
@billstmaxx
@billstmaxx 5 жыл бұрын
yeah!
@Formulabruce
@Formulabruce 5 жыл бұрын
Have an old coffee can for the exhaust?
@billstmaxx
@billstmaxx 5 жыл бұрын
Apple juice can I think. It came with it when I got it
@HughzieTube
@HughzieTube 5 жыл бұрын
Need to cut yourself a Tractor Trail through the woods so you can give it a workout to warm the oil quicker. If its open vented then the water could just be moisture getting in.
@brianrutberford6407
@brianrutberford6407 5 жыл бұрын
Then you have a head gasket leak.uou need to put anti freeze in it.you should take the radiator into a sop and have cleaned.it might be a bit plugged internally. Fill the rad tank full and check for bubbles in it.if there is that confirms the head gasket is bad
@rustyoldjunk
@rustyoldjunk 5 жыл бұрын
Also should be o-ring in the bottom of main case where filter seats, shouldn’t need sealant. Filter should’ve came with one
@billstmaxx
@billstmaxx 5 жыл бұрын
yes it was embedded in the tractor. I didn't get a new one and thought that was odd, Si instead of messing that up i added some sealant to it
@rustyoldjunk
@rustyoldjunk 5 жыл бұрын
BILLSTMAXX ah I didn’t catch that
@richardvandyke9578
@richardvandyke9578 5 жыл бұрын
That red tractor (Massey-Ferguson?) has it's tire on backwards.
@johnr8476
@johnr8476 5 жыл бұрын
One is for going forward, the other one is for backing up.
@n2vxc
@n2vxc 5 жыл бұрын
Geshhh bill 20 minutes of watching tractor idle? Glad there is a fast forward
@brandoncooper2435
@brandoncooper2435 5 жыл бұрын
If you drop oil pump your going to want John Deere oem gaskets because the smaller gasket is a shim and that gets you proper oil pressure
@jemilapointe
@jemilapointe 5 жыл бұрын
Yikes that’s a lot of water!!
@IRONMAN-kb4su
@IRONMAN-kb4su 5 жыл бұрын
Just me or did the old oil filter look squished ? Maybe to long ?
@billstmaxx
@billstmaxx 5 жыл бұрын
i think it gets compressed in there for sure
@gac914
@gac914 5 жыл бұрын
You could probably flush it with Kerosene, (or Diesel, as mentioned below.) Pretty sure that's probably what they used back in the day. . .!
@scottgolliver6
@scottgolliver6 5 жыл бұрын
That oil does have water in it you got it just in time before it turned real milky so you do have water leaking in your oil
@dtec30
@dtec30 5 жыл бұрын
seems odd that it doesn't rev when you use the accelerator
@billstmaxx
@billstmaxx 5 жыл бұрын
its max is 950 rpm. it was nearly there anyhow
@stiruptheheat
@stiruptheheat 5 жыл бұрын
sounds to me like a weak valve spring .. causing the valve not to close and seal properly on time . causing a slight poping sound or loose valve. sounds ... sping sag over time lol ..
@nathanbrodeur
@nathanbrodeur 5 жыл бұрын
That oil sure looked like chocolate milk
@cookjer24
@cookjer24 5 жыл бұрын
water in the oil is normal on the old tractors...just so you know
@charliestagg7216
@charliestagg7216 5 жыл бұрын
Do still have Boris
@billstmaxx
@billstmaxx 5 жыл бұрын
yep
@garretts91
@garretts91 5 жыл бұрын
Did you ever end up building that plaque with all the people's names that donated to your GoFundMe?
@70carlton
@70carlton 5 жыл бұрын
FIVE usa gallons,...and you can get the same thing at walmart for about47
@railroadman57
@railroadman57 5 жыл бұрын
Better let the JD dealers do it’s worth it in the long run .
@70carlton
@70carlton 5 жыл бұрын
when are you going to sell me the mayors tractor? I have to till the garden very soon
@brandonplantier7839
@brandonplantier7839 5 жыл бұрын
that's probably why it sounds like a diesel engine because there water in the oil
@Giovanni_Litterini
@Giovanni_Litterini 5 жыл бұрын
It is a diesel the main engine runs on diesel the second engine is gas to start the main diesel engine.
@waterloofreak
@waterloofreak 5 жыл бұрын
this is not a diesel, your thinking of the R this is the AR, the reason it has the diesel sound is the large tappet clearance that these motors have @@Giovanni_Litterini
@FordExplorer420
@FordExplorer420 5 жыл бұрын
oil filter water separator
@digbyodell2924
@digbyodell2924 5 жыл бұрын
You have a John Deere Reese's tractor there. "You've got oil in my water; no, you've got water in my oil!" Two great fluids in one!...maybe not.
@fillg
@fillg 5 жыл бұрын
I've never changed the oil in my AR. I do clean it every time I shoot it though. 😃
@TYEGaming
@TYEGaming 5 жыл бұрын
10w-30 isnt that thin a oil. Something wrong with your gasket
@loydcourson5276
@loydcourson5276 5 жыл бұрын
Head gasket blowen between the water jacket and the cylinder water goes into the oil and oil goes into the rad check it out!!
@FordExplorer420
@FordExplorer420 5 жыл бұрын
its moisture
@billstmaxx
@billstmaxx 5 жыл бұрын
gosh i hope not.. we will see when we dump it
@carltona6429
@carltona6429 5 жыл бұрын
It's just from the changing seasons. With it being the old style oil bath air filter, moisture will accumulate in it and therefore in the rest of the engine as well
@deathk26
@deathk26 5 жыл бұрын
Yep, just moisture. It's not like more modern engines that get hotter and will easily evaporate the water which can then exit through a crankcase vent. Still happens though with vehicles that only take short trips without getting up to temp.
@matthewthibodeau9921
@matthewthibodeau9921 5 жыл бұрын
Klondike is good oil
@rickallen6378
@rickallen6378 2 жыл бұрын
I would flush engine and transmission with diesel. Do it twice.
@dtec30
@dtec30 5 жыл бұрын
yaaahhhy wait did i say that out loud oops sorry oil change time woohoo
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