#195

[@mariorivera6609]

I have my fathers old 038 super magnum. I cleaned it up and replaced all the old fuel lines. Tightened everything up and it runs like a champ. I’m so proud to have it. I believe he bought it mid to late 80s so over 25years old. So cool to take the family and collect firewood for the winter has become tradition in my family.

[@Whateva67]

Mario Rivera I just acquired my uncles old 038 magnum 2 yesterday,still in great shape,cuts good for a saw built in the 80s,it says made in west Germany on side cover so it was made before the Berlin Wall fell. Took the big dogs off my 066 and threw them on the 038 and bought the biggest replacement dogs I’ve ever seen for the big old brute as a treat. Greetings from British Columbia😎

[@mariorivera6609]

@@Whateva67 I just went for another load of fire wood and the saw is still working like a champ. It puts a smile on my face every time I fire it up.

[@Whateva67]

Mario Rivera yup,I like the 038 almost as much as my old 066... almost 😎

[@nate5757]

The better test will be if the 362 lasts 25 years. Or even 5

[@jwfirebird88]

had my 361 10 years 10+crds a year being my only saw gets used all the time, not one problem

[@kevinkollman9162]

@@jwfirebird88 390 15 years no problems' just sold it for 300.00 and got a like new 362 //

[@Thebowzer221]

I have a 25 year old 024. Hard to start without starting either. But when I do start it, it's ah bear. I've cut maybe 300 cord with it.

[@chrisstaples3780]

@@Thebowzer221 lol man 300 cord with 024 you must be cutting 3 or 4 days a week with that little guy. Does it have a 12 or 16 inch bar.

[@jonathancarver1547]

I've ran my 362 since 2010. I believe it was the first year for that model.

[@Harmussin]

I found that my 362 didn't really start impressing me until 6-10 tanks through it, then it went to another level, own lots of saws and it probably one of my favorites now.

[@marksykes1659]

Glad to hear it ,got one back end of last winter. Dodgey starter at first. Good when run in

[@terryluebbe2560]

Looks like the "loop handle" on the 036 pro allows you to hold either side when cutting vertically. Nice featue. I was surprised you didn't flip the bar over when you switched chains. My brother taught me to do that to wear the bar evenly. He also taught me to fill the bar oil before the gas, to ensure i never ran it without bar oil.

[@robertvanblair3725]

the fact that the o36 holds it's own is a tribute to the owner's maintainence and care in use.

[@concert610]

IT guy here. I love spending time on the farm, with chickens, ducks, and geese.

[@bartprice3439]

Never loan anyone your boat, your chainsaw*, or your wife. In that order. *Unless it's a Wild Thing. (The saw, not the wife).

[@METALfanUSMC]

👍😂😂😂

[@METALfanUSMC]

Best comment of the week!

[@gordonhamilton5576]

Yeah, they come back with a rod slung in them every time.

[@pauldharmer]

Sometimes you can trade a wife for a good dog and fishing pole

[@gordonhamilton5576]

Paul, Id never make that trade. Even for my most useless dog and cheapest zebco

[@kujtimtonuzi9274]

I love the older saws for their durability. Either way Stihl makes a great product. I do agree with Nate, I don't think 362 will make it 20 years. Thanks for video.

[@coreyreid1404]

My 036 still runs awesome and never touched since 1994. Cut all my word for heat the last 24 years and cut the logs to build my house before that. Love it

[@markpontes4457]

It all depended on how yo rock the saws, next time I would try no rocking and just let the weight of the saw cut straight down.

[@biz4twobiz463]

Nah...because then you'll get someone that will ask for both saws to be weighed too. etc etc etc

[@CScav243]

Use those teeth and push that thing till its 'Bogging'

[@terryspeegle584]

about 25 years ago i had my drivers license renewed. when i got my new one and compared the pictures i saw i had the same shirt and the same sweat shirt jacket on.

[@OutdoorsWithTheMorgans]

terry speegle, that's hilarious

[@louielopez1638]

Ya filthy animal...lol 👍😂🤣😜😎👍

[@cptophers4626]

Yea, but did you wash them?

[@loooseunit]

They weren't made by Stihl were they ?

[@christinamoneyhan5688]

I suppose the same underwear too.

[@bff1316]

I had a 30+ year 36" Stihl. It cut through trees and logs without ever stalling, even 48 inch trunks. Being a bit dumb I let a neighbor borrow it to cut the logs on his front yard. He finally returned it after a few months by setting it in my garage when I went in for lunch. I found it a few days later. The chains was so dull it the teeth were almost gone, the Venturi was broken so the air filter cover could not attach. I couldn't get it to even fire once. Spark okay, fresh gas & oil. I looked down the Venturi with throttle wide open, the bottom of my piston was missing. Que sara sera. Never lend a tool. I own a few Stihl chainsaws along with other tools. They work good but not nearly as good as the old one.

[@bartprice3439]

Never loan anyone your boat, your chainsaw, or your wife. In that order.

[@MJA-qp6os]

I'm not surprised that the ms362 is faster being that it's new technology but they both do a great job. I recently had the chance to grab up a ms360 Pro a couple years younger than you 036. The gentleman I purchased it from has barely used it over it's 15+ year life. It runs great and has years of life left in it. Great video. Thanks for running the test.

[@reinhardbrenner3195]

I have a Stihl 036 / 195 since 35 Years !! After watching your video i go to my garage and try to start it . After 5 years unused . Guess what : It does NOT start ! In 35 years the first time ! In the next time i would fix this problem . Greetings from Vienna !

[@chrisssmallengines3456]

This video shows how well you look after equipment.25 years older and not much difference.Hey that's great in my books.

[@polikalo74]

My stihl 038 magnum was my first pro saw. You need to remember that these saws were built in the 80's. It was always and still is hard to start. A decade ago i bought a Jonered cs2186 and never touched the 038 magnum again. When the new stihl 661 come out i bought it as well... both the jonered and new stihl 661 are great saws, they have tons of grunt and start easy. With proper maintenance the jonsered is still like new and the 661 looks like it will go the distance as well. Saws that might have been designed in the late 70's are no match for a modern pro saw.

[@deanlong8841]

I didn't get the comment on the last video but I work for a homeless shelter and a Homeless Coalition l take of transportation and maintenance. It's a very rewarding job and humbling when you think that your life isn't going the way you wanted to and have the things that you want what's a whole new perspective on what you do have

[@avc8130]

If they both have 18" bars, why does the bar on the 362 stick out so much further past the cherry log?

[@mzeusk13]

362 has 20'' bar if 036 has 18'', 100% longer bar on 362.

[@mikeb.2166]

Those older Stihl saws from the 90s were great and so long as they are kept in good repair and you are not working them to death there is no need to replace them unless maybe you are a pro. I have a small Stihl 023 that I still run that is nearly 30 years old and though I do not use it a ton (just a home owner) all I have done is replace the spark plug and fuel line once, and of course the chain as needed. That lets you save up for a nice battery powered saw which I feel are more convenient for a home owner or that awesome fuel injected Stihl saw, only because nothing can compare to it today for power to weight ratio.

[@darrellpickering8535]

Mike, use 93 octane fuel. The higher octane is best. When a saw loses 400 rpms in a log, you're pushing too hard or the chain's dull. Let the chain do the cutting & the saw will last far longer. The better test of those saws would be if the newer 1 lasts as long as the older 1. Bet it won't. Far older Stihl mechanic & thanks for a great video.

[@terrycastor8299]

I have an 028 Super that I bought new in 1993. No clue how many cords it has cut. It can sit for months and months but it always fires off by at least the 5th pull. Had the carburetor rebuilt about a year ago. Love it. It will likely outlive me at this rate.

[@gilbertromero514]

I have the same 028 AV Super, learned to cut cedars in NM w/ MS362C ,nice good power. the 028 super was a gift from a bud, replaced fuel filter, lines and fuel/oil caps and tuned, running a 16 in. bar, it`s a midsize powerhouse for it`s class size and age, just the feel, look and build of the saw speak for itself, Love em like your woman and they`ll love you back the same, treat em like you sleep w/them!!!!. Nice if Stihl would do a re-issue of some of their more popular Vintage models, What the hell?, Ford, Chevy and Dodge did. Join any Global BAN against unnecessary PLASTICS. WOOD AND STIHL RULE. Great Videos Guy..

[@Mike-uh2gw]

So I just retired after 30 yrs in the Navy. Moved to rural Texas and am really enjoying your vids. Now I'm going through the "what tractor do I buy" thing. No RK around Tyler but most other brands are out here. I will definitely get a grapple after watching you and others moving wood. Thanks for the info. BTW I have a new Stihl MS 362 and a 250. Love em.

[@X737_]

Ex military here now a tree surgeon! I live my old saws and I have two 362s while they are great saws they don’t seem as bulletproof or torquey as my old 039av, I don’t have a 036 in my collection but I guess they are not too dissimilar

[@couchrider6228]

Navy Ranger owner of a pair of 034 AV’s made in West Germany their old and used but not many will out cut them. U.S.A.F. 24 years.

[@TheSagerider]

I found a great use for those cookies! Dry them well and stack them inside a metal garbage can and use them for kindling in the wood stove. Cut them 1 inch thick or so and they will dry quickly. To use break them up with a hatchet as needed. A large metal garbage will hold a nice stack and keep them dry out the back door. :)

[@gaylonreedy1545]

Maybe the new saw with the longer bar had a slight advantage? No time spend repositioning. Both saw are awesome saws!

[@macylandscapingretired]

I'll take my 036 over any new saw any day. Great video.

[@noahcotney8478]

362 is my favorite ground saw. Great combo of weight/power, Easiest saw to start in our fleet, efficient, and very reliable after they fixed the spark plug issue.

[@marksykes1659]

NOAH I bought a 362 last winter. Sometime trouble starting. How do you suggest I fix it? My 14 year 340 is still great

[@chuckydubree1925]

I've worked at a saw mill most of my life ,and I just recently passed down my ole 0 28 Stihl chainsaw and picked up a ms 271 the 271 has a 20 in bar seems like a good saw so far but the ole 028 was just so reliable thanks for posting

[@scootscoot1920]

Had my 009 38 years (since 1982) and still starts 1st pull

[@ronaldschmidt5140]

Thanks for the safety gear subtle message. I have seen some You Tube videos that show how those orange pants and gloves can save your life if you do those long sawing demonstrations. Face and ear protection is a great addition. Thanks

[@andrewspinney]

I just found this channel yesterday. I'm finding it nice to rest my back from cutting and splitting, have a cup of coffee and be entertained/learn something. One of the Stihl's I use is the 261 with a 16" bar. She cuts well, but maybe the 362 would do more work in the same amount of time with a few more cc's? This is how I ended up with 4 saws! lol, I'll just go back to watching the videos and forget about that saw I HAVE to have. Thanks for the great videos. Cheers from the Paynter Farm.

[@danryan3146]

I use me new Stihl-441 CM (and sometimes my old 044 Magnum) for bucking hardwood. I use my 30 year old Stihl -026 for limbing and felling cedar. All of them are fantastic saws...keep your chain sharp, use only premium fuel and oil if you want them to last.

[@kapperoutdoors]

Nice comparison Mike. I own Two 362's, they are great saws. Used to have some 026's also back in the day :) Your 036 looked great compared to my older saws... I'm thinking your a little better at 'long term care!' :)

[@JesseLJohnson]

I just got an 026pro for $50 off the Facebook Marketplace. Runs great. Doesn't look to pretty but the plastic isn't all busted or anything and everything works. Was just the powerhead so it has a nice new shiny bar and chain on it now. Wanted one for a while and $50 was a damn steal. I have found some really good deals on there the past few weeks. I got a Makita DCS6421 too a couple weeks ago for $250, Husqvarna 372xp $400, Stihl MS440 with the full wrap handle and a new 28 inch Sugi Hara Bar and the original 20 inch bar and chain and he had an OEM top end just in case he needed it he threw in for $400. I found a Stihl 066 for $425 too and a Husqvarna 395xp for $375. At an auction I went to a month or so ago guy had 5 saws all Stihl but one only one of the saws interested me though the 046 I wanted that saw bad. It looked like he never once ran it. His other saws were all from the 60s-70s and all you could tell had plenty of use. The auctioneer said they found the 046 in his basement the rest were all in the barn so maybe he bought it new 20 years or however long ago and just never used it. I figured for $300-500 I could buy it. It brought $800. I ran the guy up to $800. Pissed me off. I was at $300 nobody else bid then right before he said sold dude came in so I let him have it. Hell a new one can't cost much more then he paid then there is a 10% fee plus tax so he probably ended up spending what he could have got a brand new version of that 046 for. At a weekly auction I go to I bought a Stihl 009L and Husqvarna 142 for $45 for the pair a month ago too. Both homeowner saws but for that cheap. I have a Redmax coming now I just bought on Ebay a day or 2 ago too. I can't think of the model but its the Husqvarna 439 basically a rear handle version of the 435T top handle saw. Seller had the display unit from his shop for $240. I was wanting rear handle version of a top handle for a while and really wanted a Stihl MS201c just they cost over double what I bought that saw for. Might still buy one if I can find another nice used one. Had one in my cart on Ebay for $340 but before I finished checkout somebody else bought it.

[@lane4574]

@@JesseLJohnson I have a 026 pro also, Ive seen them for 2k in the box a couple weeks ago. You got it for a steal , 50 $ . What a great price. Mine is a 1993 and it runs like it stole something....20 in. bar and RS chain, I took my dremel and ported the exhaust a little more and it screams. The 046 your talking about is mostly made out of Magnesium and better metal for the head... Its all the little things...The pencil pushers that dont even use the saws are cutting corners for better profits..Just like that bar oil got changed a couple years ago , and now it doesnt flow as good in colder weather...Oh ya , its a good idea to flip your bar every time you change chains...It will wear even and last longer. The bar oil holes are compatible just for that reason. Just trying to help ...peace

[@JesseLJohnson]

@@lane4574 I found an MS460 for $400 the other day that was pretty mint. That guy was nuts paying what he did for that 046. I ran him up to over $800 then he had to pay taxes plus 10% fee so he had over a grand in a saw from the 90s that you can buy a brand new 462 for what like $1100. I flip the bar every couple times I sharpen the chain.

[@lane4574]

@@JesseLJohnson Thats funny as hell. He probably had money to burn. Id rather spend 1100 and get a new one too. Unless it was owned by someone that used it once and said dam!" I shoulda bought a MS170 instead because that MS046 scared me to death" , LOL , Just because they can, doesn't mean they should. Nice vid BTW...TTYL.Peace.

[@om617yota8]

I'd like to have seen the test done with the same cutting technique used for both saws. You rocked the old 036 a lot more, while just holding steady and cutting with the 362. The saw can pull the full bar, by rocking you limit how much wood is in contact with the chain and slow down the overall cut.

[@IndependenceIron]

I agree with this comment. I think the 036 would have been alot closer if both were cut straight down and no rocking.

[@Ranger-vv2jv]

I have both, l don't know which l will use on the next outing.I believe the lifespan of a well taken care of the 036 has proven as of now ,one of the best pro saws ever made.

[@johnclarke6647]

Some advice. When cutting in cold weather I use Echo Premium bar oil, because I think it oils better Thant Stihl Platinum, whips is my preferred bar oil in hot weather. I do not have an 036 but I do have a ms-360 and ms- 361 and they are great saws. I cannot tell you which one of the two saws cut the fastest, because they feel very similar. If they are different it is not in a measurable degree. What I like about the 360 is that it is the lightest of my big saws. I have never used a 362 so I cannot make a comment on it but my 360 and 361 do cut slower than my ms 660 but about the same as my ms- 391.

[@aaronneher4860]

Just got ahold of an 034 and had it rebuilt to a 036. It is a ripper even tuned rich for the break in period. Can’t wait to retune it and put a new bar and chain on it. The mechanic told me that my “new” 036 will out cut a new 362 in stock form. Maybe it will, maybe not but it is lighter than a 362 but not as smooth. Makes a heck of a firewood saw though.

[@alwayslearning3671]

I have an 028 woodboss with a 16" bar I bought in 1988, used it to heat my house for 20 years, then used it to cut down trees to make space for a new house. Still runs great. Had to replace all the vibration isolators last year. That's the only maintenance I've had to do other than clutches, bars and a spark plug. I kind of wish it would wear out so I could try a new one, but it just keeps running.

[@youneverknow111]

i have stihl 08 from 68 im told and this week only piston rings are changed on this beauty

[@Mark-uh4zd]

Buy another one anyway! They’re kinda like guns, you should have more than one!

[@danrussell3509]

I have a 19 or 20 year old 044 with a 24" bar and the only things I have replaced are 3 bars and a few chains . I was told by many professional loggers to never rock your bar on a downward cut .They tell me to let the motor and chain to do all the work and that it will cut faster plus your bars will last longer because your not putting excess down force on it . Never did time it to find out though . This saw will cut seasoned black locust as fast as most saws and has never failed me . Would be interesting to see if the old boys were not pulling my leg as far as rocking the saw though . I did notice in your video that you rocked the old saw forward a lot more. than the new one ?

[@SWPG]

love the older saws, still have my 032 AV made in W. Germany !!

[@couchrider6228]

CHAching I have two AV 034’s made in west Germany both 27 years old. They crank and run great , and they’ve been used a lot. Friends have newer saws & different brands but they are all impressed with the old AV’s. Wish everything was as well made! STIHL’s RULE !!!

[@russellbowman8051]

Both Of Them Are A Great Saw !! 👍👊

[@travisw6709]

I’m a arborist logger in 14 so I don’t work full time and I love it , it pays great there is never a dull moment it’s great wouldn’t trade for the world

[@stereolababy]

i have my dads old 031 av and when i took it to get a tune up the guy said they don't make them like that anymore. its a beast but i try not to use it too much. i have a makita saw and a nice battery saw which is handy. the ethanol free gas is key to keeping these saws running good now

[@pauldharmer]

I bought an 031 used back in the '70s that was a great saw still have it

[@bustersmith5569]

I have 3 O31's you can't kill them !!!

[@TheWoodsman661]

@@bustersmith5569 the 031 I got would beg to differ. It was DEAD! Flywheel, coil, carb, chain tensioner, piston, cylinder, everything was dead.

[@matthewprestine1974]

just wear the same underwear for a week straight and she will forget about the shirts. I run an old 70cc 70e johnserd and 55/79cc dolmars. beautiful old and new saws.

[@JesseLJohnson]

I just bought a Makita DCS6421 a couple weeks ago. Had been wanting one finally bought one. Hell of a saw. Seems a bit heavy for a 64cc saw though. Maybe in the future I will put the 79cc top end on it then it won't seem so heavy jumping up to 79cc should be basically the same weight. It was a Home Depot rental saw I got for $250. Think I will buy a 24 inch bar for it. I already bought a new Oregon 20 inch bar at an auction I go to every week had a new bar and chain I bought for $24 didn't really need it but the factory bar on it is painted orange like somebody just hit it with a paint brush guess because it was a rental saw they did that so it could be recognized if somebody tried to pawn it or something. Strange that I have found 28 inch bars for $30 less then a 24 would think it would be the other way around.

[@28yogy4todd]

at least turn them inside out every other day. :o LOL!

[@theaxeman4429]

If you’d use same size bar&chain on both - difference would be even greater. 036 sounds better, but that’s just because it’s old and well run in. 362 sounds rough - but should should get nicer with time. Be kind to your saws - let them warm up before you rev them high. 👍

[@couchrider6228]

I have a AV 034 it’s 27 years old, cut untold cords of wood. As far as the engine saws never been touched, always used stihl oil & no ethanol in fuel EVER. If someone had told me that this saw would last this long, wouldn’t have believed them , l could see where y’all might not believe. STIHL RULES!

[@Forged721]

Great video ...vibration through the hands ? Much difference?

[@oldrudedog]

I have an 011AV that's 33 years old and still works great. Never let me down. Works better than my Husky 435 that I've had to replace the coil twice and had it in the shop three times for carb adjustment. I will never buy a Husqvarna again Doesn't work as well and very hard to start after run for awhile.

[@j.r.1223]

A good test- yes. But what was 036 compression at the time of the test? Rebuild that 036 where needed w quality parts and properly tuned card, then match them up again. A few years back I had an old rebuilt 026 beat down my newer 260.

[@Tanrenth]

Probably also a good idea to run this newer saw in properly before testing it like this. If it is run in for the first 10 or more tanks of gas it will run even better than this. I would also recommend using it gently and idling it for a few mins before turning it off during this run in period. I have done this with my new chainsaw and the difference from the first time i used it to now (20+ tanks later) is remarkable.

[@drlehman73]

Props for mentioning Jim Kelly and his speech.. Pittsburgh boy, but Buffalo Bills great. He lives down the road from me, great person, suffered a lot throughout the years and continues to battle cancer to this day. Go Bills!

[@markbartolameolli9264]

Mike...one comment, you should rotate the chain bar whenever you put on a new chain. Great video.

[@milesff7]

Both are great saws. Newer saws run at higher rpms, which result in faster chain speeds. If you really want to cut fast, put a taller socket on a big saw, with a short bar!

[@CowboyAxe]

What do you use for mix oil? and what ratio?. Every time I see somebody with an older saw that runs fine, I ask.

[@southeasternfarms3730]

036 will probably still run when the 362 is dead lol. 036 sounds so classic too. 362 does seem to cut little faster but probably a rpm thing I'd guess.

[@noclass2gun342]

Its all in the mtronic ignition system... it auto tunes the carb to the current conditions... properly tuning a carb on a saw is an art and it definitely affects speed and performance

[@bullrun1]

What size bar you went with Mike? I have a Farm boss now and looking to add another saw - am between the 311 and the 362 and at least a 20” bar - what you suggest ?

[@OutdoorsWithTheMorgans]

Love this 362 with the 20" Bar

[@fragglepuppies]

Love your attitude. All the best from Australia.

[@elizabethtaylor9321]

My MS 360 is still going strong after 15 years , but the best one I had was a 038 magnum , loads of power and great fuel economy ! C Taylor

[@peanutman6593]

For the life of me I don't know why people turn the bar horizontal to install the chain where gravity makes it very difficult. By the way, don't leave that cherry log lay around in the weather or it will turn the mushrooms before it seasons.

[@similkameenhorseman]

Great comparison test between old and new. I think it would have been a better test if they both had the same size bar, and like was mentioned in another comment, just a free-weight cut or straight through with no rocking. I have a 026 that's about the same age runs great, only did a carb kit a few years ago. Great saws.

[@chuckmagnuson6237]

All your video's are very interesting & its so nice to see all the new equipment your using, old stuff works good to. It pays to take care of the equipment you have.

[@patrickmorgan3326]

Nice saw. When I was young my Dad had a “Strunk” with a pivotal bar.That was a good saw but it was a big lump of a thing and heavy. When it wore out he replaced it with a “McCulloch. That was a good saw but it had a problem starting if you shut it off when it was hot.That saw was replaced with a “Homelite” after my Dad lost patience with it and tossed into the pond in the winter of ‘61. When the “Homelite” wore out I replaced it with an “Oregon” which is still in service. I do enjoy all your videos especially the ones with the equipment reviews.

[@adambatchelder4121]

I would like to see a compression test as my guess is that the old saw is probably a tad tired.

[@MatthewC137]

Yeah, it should have had a new top end to make the comparison fair (assuming the bottom end is fine).

[@donmotz5528]

Nice comparison Mike.....thanx.

[@douglashingsbergen4304]

Have been happy with my Stihl MS290 Farm Boss. It lives in the bed of the Ranger since I never know when I will encounter a down tree blocking one of my trails.

[@PAS4591]

Mike I dont own a tractor i dont cut trees,I dont have a large property.I still find your videos interesting and entertaining!

[@babranson1]

I have an early MS 310 and a late MS 390. I purchased the 310 at the same time as an 018. Both right at the time of the cutover. The 310 would out-cut the 390 noticeably until the 390 had five to six tanks of gas run through it. You could hear the difference in the rpm. I was cutting green osage orange (hedge). Both great saws.

[@KennysTreeRemoval]

I'm a tree guy, I own a tree company and I enjoy The Morgans channel very much.

[@Fatamus]

I bought an 046 back in mid to late 90's. I built a cordwood house using the 046 to cut the beams, posts and caps. Many hours behind the bar lead to saw maintenance of course but I found after several years of use the drive sprocket needed replacing. When i got the new part it had been replaced with a new part number (not uncommon with aging equipment) the glitch is the drive sprocket had a different gear ratio by one tooth which made the chain run noticeably slower. The old style gear was no longer in production. So what I have to say is the older saw may be using a different gear ratio than it did when it was new. Just food for thought. Fat Dan

[@mikedickson2925]

Old is good, but the years takes it toll on things, as we all find out!!! Nice test set up!!

[@04tacomaguy1]

if you want your new saw to run like the old ones remove spark arrester and muffler mod by drilling a few smaller holes and they will scream

[@wesd3742]

Yep, crazy a sawyer wouldn't know this

[@couchrider6228]

04tacomaguy1 lm a big 10-4 on muff modifications, also works on weedeater ...lawn equipment.

[@Americancitizen1]

Wes D probably knows but still under warranty. My MS 261 C is 2 months til out of warranty and then it gets modded a little.

[@sheepdog271]

Just found the video, I have an 036 it's 21 years old finally had to take it to the shop along with it's 460 magnum big brother. Both have cut Huge amounts of wood and the 460 I logged with for 3 years helping a friend out. I wouldn't trade either saw for any other brand out there, they have been reliable from the first day. Have you ever tried sharpening your brand new chain? Sounds crazy but give it a try it's worth it!

[@landonlafferty7909]

My Granpa had one that was passed down to my Dad and we used it for a while but the motor is going to go soon. I want to restore it because it was my Granpa favorite saw when he did his firewood buisness.we didn't even know what the saw was because all the decals are scratched but after a little research I finally ally found it.

[@barrysensing7672]

Was that a standard 362 or the one with Mtronic carburetor?

[@GPOutdoors]

Good day Mike! They both cut well and the new one was only marginally faster. It would be helpful to know how much each one weighs if perhaps you can include that info in your next video. Thanks for sharing the test and have a good weekend with your family. Cheers!

[@KohlfyreProductions]

GP Outdoors - these figures are without bar and chain; 036 Pro: 5.7 kg (12.6 lbs), fuel capacity 0.321 l (0.68 US pt); ms362: flush cut handle 5.6 kg (12.35 lbs), wrap handle 6.0 kg (13.21 lbs), fuel capacity 0.61 l (1.269 US pt). I hope this helps. Sorry, I did not put up the bar oil capacities. I own both saws. Once, Mike puts 5 tanks of fuel through the ms362 it will become a totally different beast. True story ✌

[@mikeb.2166]

I still have my first saw, a Stihl 021 for nearly 30 years now. I don't use it so much but it always starts when I need it and I just used it last week to clear a tree that fell over a neighbors driveway. All I have done to it was other than sharpen the chain was to replace the gas line and spark plug about 8 years ago. I sure hope they still make them like they used to but everything else is so cheap and complex now a days that I'm not so sure I'd want to ever trade this little 021 in for a newer model.

[@rikkilee9409]

how do they differ in weight and vibration

[@stephenmontgomery6043]

A 362 is just a touch heavier but 100 times smoother

[@casto-]

Good comparison mike. I don't think many people would notice the difference in a back garden situation and the age of the 036, im not really suprised it's slightly slower. How about an engine rebuild on the 036, then test 😆

[@richardstutler3058]

Definitely on rebuild with Stihl parts!

[@casycasy5199]

you were right that video of jim kelly was worth watching all should see it and live it

[@christinamoneyhan5688]

Best sawI ever owned was a 602 Echo commercial. I cut 14 cords of wood each an every year fit 12 years to a length of 22” including felling and bucking the wood. 1970 .

[@rummysworld7531]

the new fill caps for fuel and bar oil are so nice, no scrench necessary

[@johnclarke6647]

Kelly came out of the university of Miami and played in NFL for Buffalo. He has the distinction of loosing four Super Bowls. Saws are long lasting, according to how you use and maintain them. I use Platinum bar oil, too, and Ultra two cycle oil. Six pulls is about average to get a Stihl saw to roll over. I did not see an appreciable difference between the 036 and the 362. Which on was the lightest?

[@cslimfu336]

Noticed on both cuts you used the dawgs on the 036 alot more, especially on the cherry. You would think that'd speed up the cut, but the results show otherwise. It was odd to see on both cuts how you used the dawgs so much different between saws. I wonder if something with vibrations had a different feel and subliminally had a influence on that?

[@myz34]

I know you said the chains are both new. Are they also the same gauge and pitch?

[@melissahelton9943]

Mike just wondering what line of work you in?

[@OutdoorsWithTheMorgans]

Melissa Helton, oil and gas industry

[@msaul37]

from just watching them cut by themselves, it looked like the 036 had the 362 beat. also thought the slightly larger 036 would be enough to pass the 362.. I guess the age (or maybe number of sprocket teeth?) is what got the 362 the win. and since I forgot, I work at a certain orange themed home improvement store, where we sadly don't sell stihl.

[@christopherdurante3367]

Is the bar bigger on the 362? Hello I’m Chris, small engine technician from peralta power equipment, NM.

[@sidogg4113]

It seemed like the way you rocked the old saw slowed it down. I agree with an earlier comment, next time just let the weight of the saw do the work. I would bet they are the same speed. Enjoying the channel... fan for about a year and a half now.

[@seanworkman431]

I honestly did not expect any difference, the 1 sec. or so I saw on screen could be down to you on that cut. Stihl have been making a fine product for many years and they stay ahead of impending E.P. legislation.They also do their R&D. Try 1 cut each under their own weight, just start the cut and hold the throttle. Shirts, what's up with wearing the same shirt, I go to work every day in the same shirt, it is my uniform. I think that one suits you, but seriously, how about some merchandise. I would buy an Outdoors with The Morgans shirt, and wear it proud!!!

[@danaharris503]

Hi Mike, Years ago I had an old Lombard Comango. It worked well for the small amount of firewood and clean up I had to do. I never had any property like yours so no need for a better saw, but I always liked Stihl saws.

[@pricklypearpasture9521]

I think the size for the blade helped out too. The newer one you didn't have the double cut just one single slice on both trees but I was surprised with the out come.

[@jc-botaman1077]

The saw test was great to watch, but I was most impressed with the painting skills. LOL.

[@kylebrown8891]

How much did you pay for your 362. I need a new pro series saw and don’t make it to the dealer often and always for gett to look

[@ChippyOutdoors]

362 almost sounds like its winding out at higher rpm then the 038 right off the bat. Do you know if the chain speeds are suppose to be close to each other?

[@doughager9141]

I like how you did the two saws at the sae time , you can see the difference. I will watch more of your. Videos

[@loooseunit]

That brought back memories , used to run a fleet of them back in the late '80s early '90s when I was contract waste thinning Pines for the forestry in NZ , great light weight good handling robust saw - but a few of them had over run problems , might have been the fuel we were using ?

[@loooseunit]

….. I am now using an 044 which I have had for over twenty years . Stihl must be the most reliable long lasting saw out there ,had an 028 - 038 - 036 -064 - 044 all were great in their own ways .

[@stephenmontgomery6043]

I stopped video at 4:28 mark . The 362 isnt even broke in yet . If it doesn't outcut the 036 there's something wrong with it . You want a real comparison . Rering and hone 036 . Make exhaust opening on 362 as big as 036 run 8 tanks of through both them and that 362 will run off and leave the 036 all day everyday . The 036 was my go to saw for limbing till I ran a 362c

[@AlabamaTree]

I’ve not watched the end of the video yet to hear your thoughts or read any comments. But it looks to me like the 362 is better with the green cherry and the 036 is better with the dry oak. I’ll go back now and see what you thought 👂🏽👍🏽

[@codycrabtree3684]

You should have the carburetor adjusted on the 036 just check it out if nothing else.

[@davidthorne6796]

Close! I believe that your 036 is running a bit rich... a 1/4 turn in on the high jet will even it out in the cut. You know to open it up until it just 4 strokes... and that’s where it’s happy... right? Those are great saw’s! I just ported a 036 Pro and did the muffler mod. It really rips... 13,500 and chewing!

[@Grakoham]

Does the 362 have stihl’s m tronic electronic stuff?

[@MyTechWebTV]

Mike I get a chuckle about the whole shirt thing. I am sure that a wife sees this as an issue. I am equally sure the majority of us who watch your videos wouldn't even notice if you wore the same exact shirt in every video! I guess it is just another guy vs girl thing. Good thing we have them around to keep us fashionable! Now if she starts trying to put makeup on you for the camera I would have to draw a line! I have a Stihl 032 and it has never let me down. It was given to me by my father when it was just to big for him to use comfortably. It still starts and runs strong to this day!

[@robertironside3166]

A Bed Planer and Joiner Planer after the Bandsaw Mill and Kiln... Plane a few boards of Cherry, Oak and if you find figure in some Maple... You'll be gob smacked by how beautiful the wood of your property is. Life changing stuff is planed hardwood [and even pine for tongue and groove... outstanding]. Think of Gun Stalks, Harvest Tables, Chests, Knife handles.. you get the idea.

[@bowman3693]

I use Husqvarnas Mike. I have one that's 40 years old (17 inch). Another 5 years (20 inch) and another 2 years (16 inch). They all have their place. I do still use the old one more often even though it doesn't have the safety features of the newer ones. The first two are pro saws and the 16 is a Lowes model.