1959 Humbucker Collector’s Edition Series 2

[@flapjack413]

There's a sucker born every minute, and Gibson will always come up with a new ploy to take advantage of every one of em.

[@samright4661]

😢more!

[@pulaski1]

There's a market for Ferraris too, when a Chevy will get you around just fine. Just because _you_ can't afford something doesn't mean that other people don't place value on it. .... And to continue the car analogy, I doubt that many buyers of these pickups only own one guitar, they likely have _several,_ or lots, just like Ferrari owners almost certainly have several other "every day" cars as well at their Ferrari, or Ferraris.

[@samright4661]

@@pulaski1 People just find any excuse to hate on Gibson

[@stanesposito2664]

Who and where do you play with? Most of us weekend musicians can't justify $1000 for pickups. I think we can afford it, but are the fifty people at the local Eagles club can tell the difference? If I was a touring guy I don't know if would buy them. I love the tone of Duncan's just fine. 99.99% of people won't know or care. Pickups are one part of your tone. I'm sticking with the Chevy on this one. Cheers!

[@pulaski1]

@stanesposito2664 There's _nothing_ wrong with a Chevy. There are millions more people who own a Chevy than a Ferrari.

[@JustMe-mn5hk]

$1000? Do they send you the rest of the guitar later?

[@johnsmith-ug5tp]

Check prices of comparable pickups.

[@CenterThePendulum]

@@johnsmith-ug5tp Who are you talking about? Stephens design is the best around, better than Ron Ellis, and $200 less. How long have you worked for Gibson?

[@bbowjazz]

@@CenterThePendulum...define "better" than RE.

[@JustMe-mn5hk]

@johnsmith-ug5tp there is no comparison, Lindy Fralin all the way all day! To each his own but I'm certainly not going to fork out $1,000 for some designer pickups with lipstick on the package!

[@JustMe-mn5hk]

@@CenterThePendulum I've worked 50 plus years for gibson, martin, Fender, PRS and lots of other instrument makers! If you want to get the most bang for your buck Lindy Fralin all the way!

[@guitarsofold100]

S D PICKUPS ARE THE ONES !!! HE HAS DONE ALL THE WORK!!

[@Butler-Trugo]

I'm assuming you're referring to Seymore Duncan Seth Lover set. Or no?

[@Asillyhobo]

​@@Butler-TrugoStephens Design ; and I would agree, along with Throbak, Wizz, and other top shelf pickup makers. I've been a huge Stephens Design fan, and he's got a certain (unfortunate) reputation, product(s) aside. And that said, I'd sooner take a gamble and be satisfied with him, and his Four Uncles bridge too, than Gibson who every decade comes out and says, "We finally cracked the code, here's our new pickup set release that's the end all be all etc." Even as far as iterative design and improvements go, it's just disingenuous, and it's in Gibson's interest to keep coming out with a new fresh set to sell people. From a scale perspective, with the kinds of parts, materials composition etc. the most accurate sets from any maker, will always be aspirational in cost because they really don't make the parts or the pickups like they used to.

[@CenterThePendulum]

@@Asillyhobo100% agree, his are the best you can buy.

[@eliotartigue6705]

@@AsillyhoboI bought his FU bridge which is great. I wanted his pups but I wasn’t waiting for them and then let’s say something happens. Will you get your money back? Probably not. Not taking that chance. His pickups, Throbaks, Wizz are no better than those Gibsons. I assure you.

[@juanvaldez5422]

Lindy Fralin

[@donkeyboy585]

Ppl used to yank out PAFs by the hundreds for DiMarzios in the 70s and 80s. Just find the tech who did it 😂

[@boblove2912]

Thats because the DiMarzios were better, well and still are.

[@donkeyboy585]

@ I won’t get into which one is better but I’ve swapped DiMarzios into a couple of guitars and they’re definitely great pickups

[@darrinpikarsky]

1st one's are great! Worth every penny if that's what you are after. I own a set and was super excited to own (as a collector) and put them in top end handmade guitar with old mahogany from the 50's. They sound fantastic and it completed a top end guitar. Would I put one in an Epiphone or Squier??, NO! I believe we have reached the Pinnacle of PAF tone with these sets and others you mentioned. Does Murphy aging make your guitar sound better? No, but you pay more for it. These actually make your guitar sound better. It's an investment and it has a value to collectors as well. Great episode!

[@jvanb231]

My initial reaction was $999..they are out of their minds.. you can get a set of throbak pickups for like $500 but I went to look and I guess inflation is real -- those are darn near $800. So sadly, $999, isn't really out of range.

[@guitarjunkie7124]

I have two sets of the Series 1 PAFs and just bought two sets of these Series 2 PAFs. I was very pleased with the Series 1.

[@sgt.grinch3299]

$1000 for pickups is outrageous. Under no circumstances should anyone indulge Gibson’s folly. I love LPs and SGs but, I refuse to pay a King’s Ransom.

[@PhL9323]

Well $1000 to COLLECTORS is not. We know, don’t we

[@jdb2722]

1k for brand new is moronic. But I’m sure plenty of Gibson fan boys will buy them.

[@WinstonWhite-l9j]

It’s no more a folly when women pay 2700 for a handbag made by Prada or Gucci, when an identical bag without the branding would be 500.00

[@johnsmith-ug5tp]

Are you on other pickup makers you tube channels bashing their prices?

[@CenterThePendulum]

@@WinstonWhite-l9j Yes, buying the designer bag and these pickups is foolish. There are many foolish things that can be listed.

[@MarsGuitarOfficial]

My favorite pick up I’ve bought and recent years has been the Lollar imperial that’s a fraction of the cost of the Gibson. I would have to AB it and be the judge at that point great video guys thank you again

[@brunoantony9257]

someone needs to do a blind test with these and regular '57 classics. I bet it would be no better than 50/50

[@SlimeyGuitarStrings]

idk about the 57' classics because my understanding is that the '57 classics are wound symmetrically which absolutely wasn't a thing in vintage PAFs. But I would like to see the comparison with burstbuckers, custombuckers, 57' classics (because why not), plus a bunch of other pickup builders various PAF style humbuckers like the DiMarzio 35th anniversary, SD Pearly Gates/Antiquity, Bareknucles Mule, Rewind TAF, etc. My bet is that there isn't a lot of difference between some of them.

[@quietinterlude770]

​@@SlimeyGuitarStrings I once took a 57 classic set which had a hotter 57 classic plus bridge pickup, unsoldered one of the coils from each the neck and and the bridge pickup, swapped those coils between the two pickups, and hooked them back up. This gave me two pickups with mismatched coils, equal in output. I then swapped the A2 magnets out for A4 in the neck and UOA5 in the bridge and they became something else altogether... Id wager they sound about the same as what Gibson is trying to shill out

[@StationHouseLiving]

There is only one maker that I know who actually uses a 57 and a 59 Les Paul to reference his winds. He's been making pickups for over 15 years and is the only maker that will state pickups are overpriced. He sells his pickups for about 100 bucks using USA time period correct parts. Some have dollars and some have sense . Check out Sped Speeding and his Buzztone Pickups

[@RevoFoto]

You say ALL that but never stated HIS name. Who is it? Inquiring minds want to know!

[@alanwoodwind5265]

@@StationHouseLiving dude. Who is this winder?

[@adrianhanson9584]

Dave Stevens, SD pickups

[@StationHouseLiving]

Every time I say the name, they delete my replies...

[@StationHouseLiving]

@@RevoFoto Every time I say the name, they delete my replies...

[@FreedomFromSpeech]

If you think $1000 is expensive just wait and see what people will pay on the used market once all the sets are bought up :)

[@cyberlip666]

once all the sets are bought up gibson will announce the non-limited versions for about half the price

[@Asillyhobo]

​@@cyberlip666honestly I wouldn't be surprised, because I wasn't expecting them to come out with a series 2 of this set with A2 magnets either.

[@eliotartigue6705]

@@cyberlip666they might? However they’re not going to come with the historically accurate pickup rings

[@loganknapp8905]

I put an off brand “paf” in my old epiphone bridge position. I loved it in comparison to the stock neck pickup.

[@Mikey__R]

Ha, brilliant! Well done!

[@srh361]

Throbak pickups are $750 now and to me they're the absolute best pickups on the market and not to mention the closest to the original I believe you can get ( just my opinion). Throbak has probably 98% of the parts made in America, where the source materials come from is another discussion, and that means a lot to me.

[@Jared.Alen.Brandon]

Tell me where Gibson got the parts for these collectors.

[@CenterThePendulum]

I would say Stephens Design outdoes Throbak.

[@srh361]

@@Jared.Alen.Brandon Doesn't say

[@srh361]

@@CenterThePendulum That may be true for you but I'm just commenting about my experience with everything.

[@adam614ce]

I could t imagine these sounding better than a set of OX4, and those are $300 shipped from England and hand wound.

[@CenterThePendulum]

Agree. Long-time customer.

[@JustMe-mn5hk]

Folks always remember, a Penny's worth of practice goes a whole lot further than a dollars worth of equipment!

[@jeffhosscartwright77]

And Josh at Jhs is getting crap about a $79 pedal. I’ll stick with my ox4 pickups which are still right under $400. Also real pafs had such variability from wind to wind.

[@TheFeelButton]

I'm far too ignorant to make $1000 pickup decisions. Cheers Casino!

[@Natey_Potatey]

There are a lot of people out here that are upset at the very existence of $1,000 pickups and.... ??? It's ok for fancy overpriced things to exist. Didn't let it ruin your day guys

[@JohnnyArtPavlou]

I think you’re right… But it still is ridiculous. I’d probably find these more upsetting than I do the $6 million duck taped banana.😂😂😂

[@CenterThePendulum]

They aren’t fancy, price anchoring is where you put an insanely high priced item in your portfolio. The less expensive ones seem like a bargain, and a small segment still buy the outrageous ones. It’s a marketing strategy, plain and simple.

[@PaulEldridge1]

There's something for everyone - I liked the discussion as it was about who these are for and are they "value" etc. Onviously it's fairly "niche" and in the end they'll sell well.

[@beezersurf]

Tom M. is a wizard, I forgot that part.

[@Joey-sd2uq]

Doyle Coils are a Supreme Humbucker...❤

[@jamieb7799]

I have a normal set of Seymour Duncan 59’s in my D’Angelico semi hollow body and they sound fantastic.

[@rogertinker1813]

I think it's out of hand , but if you can warrant the cost go for it, however there is probably only 1 out of 100 players is really gonna benefit from these , except in their mind .have a great day guys

[@AR1xRUSHY]

I think I paid between 250 to 400 for Mojotone PAF Clones which were a limited release. The most I've ever paid for pickups was 400 for a set of Cunife Widerange Jazzmaster pickups.

[@petersouthwell5971]

Had to re-do my answer. $1,000 is too much. BECAUSE I can buy an entire Vintage 1970s Gibson Flying V for 5K. I dunno. Im thinking taking a mid grade guitar and throwing this $1,000 Gibson pickup into it.. Doesn't make sense. BUT If I already had a vintage Gibson and lets say the pickup went bad. Then this pickup is a deal. You can throw this thing in there to replace the bad pickup without having to search for the ACTUAL vintage part (what Sean said it's like $10,000)... I guess in that case it's a good option. SOOOOO.... If you consider it as a replacement part for the vintage used gibson market... It makes more sense as a product. Going after the audience say Seymore Duncan goes for.. it's a silly option.

[@tempeewarmack6816]

Why the hell do you need a fancy case if they are going into a guitar?

[@Dragon_rls]

A little pricey for my tastes, but I look at Gibson as a 2 tier company. I think the Gibson L.P. Studio starts at $1,600 USD, comparably priced to a Fender American pro 2. But there will always be a market for the well heeled, and someone has to provide them what they want. So as far as Gibson being for doctors, and lawyers only, I think that’s not really all that valid. Show these guys some love. And that’s coming from a Fender guy. Rock on🎸.

[@bottomkitchen250]

I can't wait to see how much the one's they come up with to replace those will cost.

[@user-no1cares]

Seems like it would take the old style pots & caps to get the original PAF tone. That being said, if I spent the money for just the PAFs, I bet I’d be able to hear the tone I was hoping for out of my old Les Paul Studio.

[@SlimeyGuitarStrings]

This is actually a great point I hadn't considered. Pickups are part of a circuit, and if the rest of the circuit is inauthentic, you already missed the mark in your pursuit.

[@Mikey__R]

If you spent $1k on new pickups, I've no doubt you'd be able to convince yourself you can hear the difference.

[@user-no1cares]

@@Mikey__R 😂 I swear it sounds exactly like a real thing! Wanna buy it?

[@benlogan430]

These are cool for people with repro. vintage guitars. Cheaper than original pafs. I just get used 490t Gibson’s for $75. But I don’t have a 59 so…

[@James-js7fk]

Is anyone aware of the difference between these series 2 and the pickups loaded into the 23’ murphy lap r9’s? I believe I saw the pickups in the murphy labs listed as the “custom bucket” but unsure about the specific version of differences

[@ahoneyman]

Throbak is $800. Ron Ellis is $900. Virgil Arlo is $1800 used. That's what high end PAFs go for. There are great value options too. A used Seth Lover set goes for $180 if you hunt and they sound great. Dimarzio PAF 40th Anniversaries are a fantastic $200 set. Duncan '59s go for nothing used and are killer 70's rock pickups.

[@TheDanification]

You could buy Gibson 57 classics and a set of Lollar Imperials for this price

[@MrTele53]

Talking about the price when we have yet to HEAR what they sound like...?

[@loganknapp8905]

It sounds like a guitar.

[@godbyone]

Holy crap I thought you were gonna play them and see what they sound like

[@MichaelBrewster-x7n]

No no no no don't put them in a guitar then they won't be original the pickups that is don't even take them out of the case stop looking at them so hard u might scratch them 😂 buy em if u can afford em❤

[@RevoFoto]

They are made to be used. What's the use of having them if you ain't gonna use 'em?

[@robertstan2349]

they'd better be the best pups i Ever heard 😋

[@rowbags3017]

I'd definitely have to try these before buying them, otherwise it would be too much of a gamble. If you spent $1,000, you'd probably convince yourself you could hear a difference from your existing pickups, whether you really could or not. Then it becomes a tale of "the king's new clothes".

[@Steve.Cutler]

Have you guys bought any of these 1000 pickup sets?

[@markn4526]

My guess is that 9 out of 10 guitar players would not like the way a set of actual, authentic, vintage 1959 PAF's sound. $1000 seems like a pretty risky investment (crapshoot) for replicas that may or not give you the type of sound that you think you'll like in your particular guitar.

[@beezersurf]

You guys are awesome. I will pass on the pickups, although I bet they sound and look insane.

[@codyburgess7034]

Here’s my thing… $999 is a wild price. How much better than a PAF after market is it truly? Now to counter this Gibson P94s are clearly better than any other p90 Humbucker size pu I’ve heard..

[@CenterThePendulum]

Price anchoring is where you put an insanely high priced item in your portfolio. The less expensive ones seem like a bargain, and a small segment still buy the outrageous ones. It’s a marketing strategy, plain and simple.

[@clivebonehill3348]

I would love to be able to afford to purchase a set if these, but there again if I could aford to I wouldn't !! ( I guess a lot of people fall into this category 😊)

[@brentpruner]

For those cases with a vintage era Gibson that would have been originally spec'd for PAFs and they are long gone, seems like a valid brand replacement. The replacement history should be documented and communicated if ever sold.

[@adrianhanson9584]

Coulda saved a couple hundred on packaging. I mean they aren’t going to stay in the fancy case right?

[@johnsmith-ug5tp]

I will agree about that.

[@ToddTheJoker]

I would love to buy them if I had the money!

[@godbyone]

Has anybody tried the Ellis pick ups?

[@OilCanHarry2U]

I have signed Tom Holmes P/ups.

[@tom.m]

Now that's what I call authentic! If they were worth it Gibson wouldn't lean on FOMO constantly to push their high prices. I don't mind high end gear existing. I do mind Gibson's tactics.

[@TeleTonemonkey]

I have some Tom Holmes in my R9 ……… sound great. I mean … GREAT! …. Hard to compare when the PAFs and the guitar are so integral!

[@PapajamaJoe]

Fralin Pure PAFs will eat these for breakfast.

[@godbyone]

Fagan makes awesome pick ups down to earth great

[@johnsmith-ug5tp]

They are priced right. Average HB pickups sell for 300 bucks. Above average like throwbaks are 600 to 750 bucks. These Gibson are as close as you will get to the real thing. If ya dont want to pay 1000, dont!

[@DoctorEnigma01]

I couldn’t afford a Gibson when I grew up, I was never mad at Gibson for it, I just saved my money and worked harder until I could. Now I own 6 Gibson’s and I just ordered a set of these. The moral of the story is crying won’t help you, hard work will

[@guitarjunkie7124]

Well said! Same thing happened with me.

[@boblove2912]

What an utterly irrelevant thing to say. If you work had for your money and choose to spend $1000 on a set of pickups its your choice. No one is telling you not to buy them. People are entitled to think you are easily parted with your money though. Doesn't mean they are jealous or can't afford $1000. They just don't think these pickups are worth that price.

[@johnsmith-ug5tp]

I am so sick of these anti America, miserable whining communists. Lets not forget PRS's cult members that cant help themselves and their hatred for Gibson. I cant stand prs and I have better things to do than wait with baited breath to attack channels discussing or showing prs products.

[@johnsmith-ug5tp]

Exactly. When I was 14 my parents bought me a Memphis LP for my first guitar. When I turned 16 I got a part time job and saved enough to buy a used Gibson LP deluxe for 400 bucks. Back then, the minimum in CT was maybe 4 bucks an hour in 81. I didn't whine about mean and evil Gibson and hate capitalism. I worked, saved my money and got a nice instrument that I played for over 10 years before selling it and moving up the Gibson latter. These miserable communists think everything should be free.

[@CenterThePendulum]

@@johnsmith-ug5tpDude, you are all over this thread with over the top comments and pedestrian takes. Communists? Are you a first-year econ student who saw a pamphlet at a gun show?

[@renokid64]

I have some Fralin PAF's, they are totally awesome. I think they were around 350 for the pair? Maybe 400..well worth it...

[@DDPAV]

More power to marketing to those with the income and desire to have a $1k set of pickups. The reality is no "needs" these pickups, wanting them is a totally different subject.

[@SlimeyGuitarStrings]

I think they're a scam. I get that a vintage PAF can cost $10,000 which means that $1,000 for an "authentic clone" is an okay price. My issue is that Gibson is trying to build a whole brand around the history of their instruments and then gatekeeping them behind a price most people can't afford. I like Burstbuckers, but if we take Gibson at their word that these are better, realistically, they could afford to put a nicer pickup in a Gibson USA standard guitar. They just won't for the sole purpose of making people want to spend money. You cannot convince me that the cost of production is markedly different between a burst bucker and one of those expensive PAFs if they were being made at scale. The DiMarzio 35th Anniversary, Seymour Duncan Antiquity/Pearly Gates, BareKnuckles Mules, and Rewind TAF are all replica pickups which sound good and cost a heck of a lot less. To me, it looks like Gibson is offering their customers a worse value than they could otherwise offer because I think most other brands would put a better pickup in their guitar if it cost about the same price. A second issue is that we've seen with other reissues Gibson always comes out with there being some new thing that's closer to the original or that they discovered about the original. I just don't buy that this is it. Give it a few years and they'll come out with a new more "authentic" pickup. So I reiterate that it's a scam and even a bit anti-consumer.

[@jonathancalhoun4853]

Of course this is outrageously expensive to the average person, and I would not pay that much for them. However, this is not meant for the actual normal guitar player. It is meant for the high-end collector who will probably never even use them. It’s similar to buying a high-end car like a Ferrari: if you have to ask how much it costs, then you’re probably not the person they’re trying to sell it to.

[@redfrozenseven]

Is this like 1959 tribute Humbucker from the 2014 Traditional?

[@pmrparts]

If you had an old Les Paul with pickups that were shot for whatever reason and you wanted to replace them I think this might be worth the investment. I personally don’t have any reason to want them. Overall I don’t think they are worth $600 to $700 more than Antiquities.

[@hod8931]

No for me. Ive had several stets of real PAF's and each sounded different. One set was just sweet AF and I still have them. The first 1k set sounded like crap to me. I paid 300 for a set of custom shop underwound with alnico 3's and the bridge sounded weak (they are, I know). Put alnico 2 in the bridge and they are cotton candy. The neck sounded great with 3's clear as F.

[@Olivya.A.Musing]

$30 for the wire, $20 for the magnets, $2 for stamped steel sheet metal covers. Probably less at Gibson's costs. Twenty minutes at the winder. Maybe $40 for the faux Louis Vuitton cosmetics case. $999 or 1000% mark-up makes perfect sense. I need to end here and go feed my Pet Rock. Cheers All🎸

[@railmastercnr]

I wonder if installing them would devalue them as a collectors item? Other question is how many more times will Gibson tell us the latest is the most historically accurate? Very nice set though and I think the price is reasonable

[@44dognut]

gibson taking advantage of their most loyal fans as usual

[@johnsmith-ug5tp]

Show me your comments about prs taking advantage of their fanatic cult members?

[@wierdlygruesome]

There are a number of boutique builders that make clones a 59 pick ups the same materials same wire same kind of magnets they even use period correct bobbin winders. There’ also lollar and Duncan which makes awesome pickups Lawler makes a great 59 pick up their imperials. Duncan makes fab copies of the original Seth lover pick ups made in 59 Pearly Gates, which is a 59 pick up offer about 100 bucks a pick up I spend 10 times the amount.

[@martinclayton7260]

Typical Gibson greed! $1000 for a set of pickups that probably cost about $70 to make. I will never buy anything Gibson again!

[@benlogan430]

Take a stand. Lol

[@pulaski1]

Don't get overwrought about it, lots of consumer products sell for many _times_ what the base marginal cost of manufacture is. But you need to factor in overheads - depreciation of the machines and buildings, payroll costs, including medical insurance (I heard some years ago that it costs General Motors less to manufacture a car rolling off the production line, than they pay for medical insurance for the employees who make manufacturing the car possible!). I doubt there is much you buy, food, clothing, or anythings else that doesn't as a base level, sell to you for _at very least_ three times the basic cost of manufacture. Some years ago I worked for a biscuit (cookie) manufacturer, and a popular line of biscuits retailed for five times the marginal cost.

[@alanwoodwind5265]

Plenty of pickup makers produce pickups that are just as good. Go buy some.

[@bryonkidder6199]

Better than a $10,000 guitar...imo

[@johnsmith-ug5tp]

Ya still her prs fanboy or communist.

[@MK-1010]

I get that Gibson probably used lazers, and all kinds of, IDK, "spectrographs" to analyze some good PAFs from the day. And they could very well be the best, modern re-creation of a PAF. But what's next, that'll be even "better, more real" than these? DiMarzio came out with their 36th Anniversary PAFs not too long ago, I think it's something they do every year. And it's kind of an odd number, (Not the 30th, or 35th) but they happened to hit it out of the park. Everyone saying it's the best thing since 1959, yadda yadda. I think they sold the pair for about $300 new, and costs about the same now. So unless I win a lottery, I'll never buy $1,000 pickups. I'll find something used, for much less. And still have a big selection of high quality pickups to choose from... Just my 2¢.

[@homegrownson]

I Think someone ought to throw a set of those in a Guitar and lets hear what they sound like, I have saved many old Tim Shaws, used the Best of the Best American Made Pickups like Klein & Vaughn Skow so not afraid to spend for what is needed, but personally a pass on these from Me, rather have Real Thing then Gibsons Limited Run copy made to cash in

[@TrickOrTreatAZ]

I used to buy guitars (especially Gibsons/Epiphones) specifically for different pickup configurations. I have no issue with this, but man Gibson keeps going back to the PAF well. 20 years ago, I was like "YES! My satin LP Studio has Burstbuckers!". Then it's like of these are pros, then my LP tribute had BB 1s/2s, then Lazarus has BB 2s/3s and THEN.....I see custom buckers and 61s AND AND AND AND......arrrrgggggg!!!! No more Gibson LMAO! This is bad enough if you have GAS but for those of you who also are OCD I sincerely feel bad for you.

[@CraigGriffiths]

I will stick them in my Epiphone.

[@TimTrutone]

PAF actually stands for Pure Agnesi Fire.

[@dangitdan9938]

Dunno, those Fralin pure PAFs are quite dandy! I'm sure this will be some bragging point for someone, not I. I wouldn't mind hearing a set, in real life, but seriously doubt I'd ever buy a pair; unless cherubs fly out of my bum when I hear them.

[@phantaseas]

I’m gonna be honest, I’m mad only because I bought series 1 recently and series 2 just dropped, but if they’re anything like series 1 mannnnn will it wake your guitar up. I put the series 1 in a sg standard and it’s an astronomical fucking differnce. So now to get series 2 to have on standby or something lol.

[@PuttinOnTheRiffs]

I just can’t imagine there being double the closeness to an actual PAF to a custom bucker where I’m sure they used actual examples of to get it good enough to put in a $5k+ guitar. So it’s like either the custom bucker is a lie or these are overly massaged custom buckers. The package is arguably worth $1000. I don’t think the pickups are worth $1000. I also see the cool factor in owning these and don’t think someone shouldn’t buy them.

[@stephenmccain-wx2jy]

How many sets of these will be sold on eBay and reverb as original pafs for 10,000 dollars?

[@bertgetner9397]

The sad part is once they are sold out the price to have them goes through the roof. And if they are making 1000 pieces then it shouldnt be a problem to make another 1000 pieces. The price is too high for the average guy but there are business people and wealthy individuals that will scoff them up for all the wrong reasons. "All that and a bag of chips"

[@doctersound9630]

The sound comes from the pickup...(Come at me bro) take into consideration the $2800-$50,000 pick tag of a Les Paul One could ARGUE, that these are 80% of the sound (All things being equal) Tone wood? Jim Lill has debunked that (Basically, go watch some of his videos) I hate the price. YET. These could be priced higher and people would still buy them. \m/

[@WayneMemphisMojo]

I like the ThroBak pickups better

[@ListenToPowerViolence]

I'm happy to spend a grand on pickups but heavens to Betsy give me a nicer case for them. Maybe with a leather carrying strap?

[@SHENDOH]

😂

[@honkytonkinson9787]

Maybe they could include some cool swag like a custom back cover plate… or a leather jacket 😂

[@srh361]

I'm curious as to what the covers look like and what/how they're made because Gibson has lost the ability to produce pickups the way they used to.

[@mikemcsween1847]

Epitome of what’s with Gibson. Lawyers and dentists … which working pros (not signed with Gib) would opt for these over OX4, Bare Knuckle, Lollar, CNovak, Arcane, SD, Fralin? Why is RD carrying the water for ridiculous price when it’s their own initial design?

[@chadb5959]

I want them. Does CG sell them or must I go thru Gibson or a Gibson dealer? Let's experiment, CG. I'll buy the pickups. I have a few Murphy Labs: a 61 SG, 61 335 and a 60 Les Paul. Chose a guitar, play it in the shop, install the pickups and then see if we can hear the difference.

[@GIBKEL]

WTF…. I wouldn’t listen to much of what Mark has to say. He was plucked for knowledge, but completely used for propaganda. Don’t blame Gibson but mark has to live with what bs he’s shoveling; as we all do.

[@YanYeiDei]

Sean can sell that silver turquoise bracelet and have his $1000 for those pickups. Follow me for more financial advice.

[@jameswhite1450]

umm, would I install a set in my Nashville ES-335 '59 reissue? Hard to say. I like my 57 Classics that I currently have so it's a tough call. The price doesn't scare me considering what they are. I mean look what a ES-335 reissue sells for. *if* it was easier to swap pickups then that could push me towards the swap. IMHO

[@markinthemix6055]

I do think if they were made with vintage wire people would grab em up even quicker.

[@EsotericBreakfastBuffet]

I heard they’re everywhere, our drinking water , our food supply , our bloodstreams..crazy

[@SamHollidayV]

I’m in

[@mikenadanada7430]

Suckers exist in the guitar world as well and Gibson is more than happy to take advantage of that fact.

[@johnsmith-ug5tp]

prs

[@CenterThePendulum]

@@johnsmith-ug5tpwhy do you keep bringing up PRS? Nobody cares about PRS in a Gibson forum.

[@Bob-Whiting]

What?! No Pink Blanket?! Sacrilege. I don't see those machine marks on the bended brackets either! Pffftt! I do like the flat-blade screws on the P-Ring tho. 🤔 I own 1 paf and it doesn't have those marks either. The shielding on mine looks like it's from WWII, too bad some D-Head chopped the wire like 4 inches long while he was destroying history AND he split up the pair not knowing they are worth much more AS a pair. It's the bridge pup in my beautifully made 335 with dot inlays. Now if only I could play as well as Jonathan. Oh well! Ya can't have Everything. Happy Holidays Every bod-dee!

[@chrisquinn9104]

I think we live in a country where there’s a part of the population that has an insane amount of money and spending $1000 on a set of pickups is not a big deal at all. Gibson would not be good at business if they didn’t cater to that community. 1000 run is so they don’t kill the goose

[@friedtaters8940]

pickups power

[@davemish4163]

Just buy a set of Seymour Duncans. They're expensive enough, and they'll get you where you need to go.

[@mileswatkinson8135]

Preface by saying I have no doubt these are excellent pickups. I think that if you can't find a set of pickups that sound fantastic for a couple of hundred dollars, you aren't trying. There is no magic pixie dust sprinkled on PAF pickups. They are just wires, magnets, bobbins, and polepieces like every other pickup on the market. If someone wants to pay 1k for a set of these, that's their choice to make. The guitar isn't going to sound better for it. It's just about bragging rights and a feeling of unearned superiority. To say "yes, but the original PAF goes for 10k so this is 1/10th the price" is a fallacy. Not only are these NOT original PAF'S by any stretch of the imagination, paying 10k for an original is pretty ridiculous as well. These are toys for the very wealthy in a society that is crumbling because of the divide between wealth and poverty.

[@zynosgd9982]

Why is Tyler Sheid on this channel?

[@TweedTones]

ThrowBak pickups are superior in every way. While I do admit the nice lifton style case is very nice. Otherwise Gibson Murphy necks are still flaking off

[@samright4661]

Watching people cry about the price is hilarious! Same people spend 1900 dollars on a Smart phone that lasts 2 years!

[@johnsmith-ug5tp]

BINGO! We are telling with miserable and irrational communists.

[@CenterThePendulum]

The cost per use on a cell phone is pennies, and the most expensive iphone comes nowhere near $1900…math? There are better sounding PAFs out there if you trust your ears to know the difference.

[@samright4661]

@ 🤡 IPhone isn’t the only smartphone made! Go price a Folding Phone 1499 for a IPhone 16 pro max with tax it’s well over 1500

[@shabangschmagoigal2091]

If I don't want to pay $1400 for a Gibson, I don't want to pay $1000 for "PAF"s.

[@cortmiller]

You can get pafs less than 10k

[@jonm1544]

I have no issue with someone making a non-essential product and pricing it however they want. That said, I’d never be a buyer. It’s never going to be a more than a reproduction. And as a collector’s piece, it’s devalued as soon as you install them in a guitar. I’m not buyer but someone is.