1967 Oldsmobile Toronado, first American made FWD car since the Cord.

Today we are back at classic auto mall to feature, the Oldsmobile toronado, another home run by bill Mitchell, this car is absolutely stunning. Craved from a bar of soap. Period ads specs take the tour buttons switches and knobs enjoy this one, is there a better dash design than this
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[@chevken1831]

"I Think I'm In Love", Eddie Money.

[@What.its.like.]

You got it congratulations you’re the first one to do so your comment will be pinned to the top of the comment section =)

[@What.its.like.]

I was so afraid it was gonna get copyright block I usually don’t play the song title but that’s how I felt about this car

[@chevken1831]

@@What.its.like. Honestly, I think that those copyright strikes seemed a lot more severe in the early years of KZbin than nowadays. The one artist who gets taken down the most always seems to be Jimi Hendrix.

[@noneed4me2n7]

Give me some water, one of my favorite tracks from Mr Money.

[@jeffshadow2407]

@@PS-js9oh and he knows "all the Toronados"!

[@stevenhoman2253]

Jay, never miss an opportunity to exclaim, YOU.

[@What.its.like.]

It’s kinda a thing someone pointed out in the beginning watch your YOUs so made the ones where it was you more pronounced

[@johnroof2663]

The oldsmobile tornado was simply stunning. It was ahead of its time, and the reason why you didn't get torque steer is because the front drive axles or CV joints were equal lengths. And that mighty 425 motor, It was more powerful than you needed.

[@What.its.like.]

Thank you so much for sharing all of that insight =)

[@seven_hundred-seven_hundred]

Very nice. Thank you. (You didn't point out the ultra-cool "lack" of floor hump in the front and the back. So cool... flat interior floor!)

[@NickTwisp80]

Never felt any torque steer driving our neighbor's 1968 Toronado back from Kennedy airport in 1969 to where we lived in New Jersey. That car was fast...nailed it as I entered the Garden State Parkway & the kickdown pushed me back against the seat. Took my foot of the gas pedal at 100 mph (fortunately). Only problem he ever had with it was keeping tires on the front wheels. The bias-ply tires would wear fast with the weight distribution of that car.

[@What.its.like.]

Driving it sounds like an awesome experience =)

[@glennso47]

I remember when these were introduced. My parents had a chiropractic appointment and the chiropractor was next to the Oldsmobile dealership. So while I waited for my folks to complete their chiropractic appointment I went to the Oldsmobile dealer and looked at the Toronado. I was a kid at the time and I was car crazy about nearly everything on 4 wheels.

[@billolsen4360]

The 66 and 67 Toronados were the most beautiful, looked like they had been carved out of a bar of soap. Also, during those years, Toronado drivers were frequently required to put tire chains on their rear wheels by various highway patrols in the US and Canada when heavy snowfalls had occurred. It to a short while for the authorities to get the universal "rear tire rule" modified.

[@What.its.like.]

I never thought of that you could definitely carve this out of a bar of soap.. it’s a really interesting car I would really like to drive one in the summertime or sometime frankly I want to know if there’s any torque steer

[@glennso47]

Weren’t they carved out a bar of soap 🧼 ? What kind of soap was it? 🤭

[@glennso47]

What good are rear wheel tire chains for a front wheel drive car?🤔 And was the Highway Patrol under the direction of Broderick Crawford (Dan Matthews) and as a result they setup a roadblock? 😊

[@dr.plutonus1496]

Hello from England. Two things I particularly like about your channel: i) your sheer ebullience & enthusiasm ii) your inclusion of period ads. Growing up in the '60s & '70s, I was dazzled by the car ads I saw in National Geographic magazine (my uncle used to pass me his copies when he'd read them). I don't think enough kudos has been given to those copywriters who created such intoxicating descriptions of motor cars - they were so unlike anything we had on this side of the pond. Great work sir!

[@What.its.like.]

Thank you so much it means the world to me that you dig this channel =) I was born way too late love these cars also love the ads happy new year

[@keithrevst692]

It may be the most recognizable front wheel drive made in America, but the 1929 Cord type L was the first American made front wheel drive. The 1929 Cord L-29 (Phaeton) was the US's first front-wheel-drive production car, as well as the world's first to sport constant-velocity joints.

[@What.its.like.]

I’ve been looking for chords to do on this channel all year I had the opportunity when I was at the Gilmore auto Museum but I didn’t feel comfortable approaching people about their cars.. After doing almost 200 videos this year I have gotten way more comfortable about talking about cars definitely going back to the Gillmor auto Museum this year and hope to feature some really cool cars when I do

[@keithrevst692]

I live in Auburn , IN. We have the Auburn Cord Duesenburg festival in the fall. We also have the museum here. I would bet you could get some good videos made if you are able to make it here. ACD cars were very ahead of their time

[@What.its.like.]

I wanted to go to that last year so bad I will try and see if it would be possible to do that I’m trying to see if going to Amelia Island would work this year I really wanna go..

[@slicksnewonenow]

@@keithrevst692 hiya Keith - Did you ever go and watch the Duesenberg Drags at the airport? I don't think they're doing them anymore... But it sure was something to see!

[@johnclements6852]

@What it’s like I suspect that now you've built up your credibility and visibility as a KZbin content creator, it should become easier for you to get access to vehicles. Making contacts like the team behind the Muscle Car And Corvette Nationals show in Illinois every November will enable you to meet both the "average" car owner through to the "guys and gals" with multi million dollar cars and collections. Other folks there like sponsors Reliable Carriers and Mecum Auctions, together with the top restoration shops and other media, will provide opportunities for you. Top people from the automakers are also there. You also benefit from your car dealer friends/contacts - they'll know top collectors and may provide introductions for you to visit and shoot some collections and vehicles you'd otherwise have no access to, especially when starting out. I wish you much continued success with building your channel and hope your "Packard dream" comes true one day. Happy New Year from Christchurch New Zealand.

[@studio-iy7ov]

Bill Mitchell and his coherent really did a great job on this one, Beautiful designed car.

[@What.its.like.]

Totally agree

[@Radiowild]

I love the dash of this car too! This was just different compared to most cars out there. They had the pitfall of using of front tires quickly so if your stock portfolio included Good Year and Firestone the Olds and Cadillac execs were happy. Fun facts - In the late 60's there was a drag racing Tornado that was 4 wheel drive (had slicks on all wheels) that ran 10's in the quarter mile! Jay Leno has a 66 that he made into a resto mod with a 1000 horsepower motor.

[@What.its.like.]

I totally forgot that Lana had a resto modded Toronado I’ve been watching Leno since before 2005 when he used to upload to his regular website Jay’s big dog garage.. it’s crazy it’s been that long still waiting for him to cover some cars in his collection like the international kb5 tanker truck and the 1948 packard he has =)

[@richardwarren7492]

This is a extremly nice example, that said I prefer the 66 model in that Red/Maroon color. An aintresting point the UPP, Unified Power Rackage was used in GMC motorhomes, basically a well tested bullet proof powertrain. The tire were a special design by Firestone, called called the TFD Toronado-Front-Drive 8.85" x 15". That said, the front tires carried the load, power, steering. They wore fast unless they were rotated a lot. After all 60% of the weight was on those front wheels. Also the original front suspension used .torsion bars and the rear a single leaf spring using 2 shocks per side one horizontal acting as a radius rod one on each side vertical. The 66 had drum brakes, the 67 disc on front. The dash? Awesome. I did service work on sevearl of these when I started out as a mechanic.

[@What.its.like.]

I haven’t seen a 66 one in person but would love to I kind of like the 67 design but it both are nice.. Thank you so much for sharing all of that added information as well as insight

[@OLDS98]

Thank you for featuring this 1967 Oldsmobile Toronado. You did a great job and it was highly informative. Thank you for focusing on the details. Thank you for talking about the competition and what is offered. Continue what you are doing.

[@What.its.like.]

Thank you so much =)

[@christopherkraft1327]

Hello Jay, the 66-67 Oldsmobile Toronado is an iconic automobile for so many reasons. It's bold styling, it's front wheel drive plus so many other things!!! This blue beauty is stunning, I always admired the flat floor, it has so much more leg room. Years ago I knew someone that had two 66 Toronados, both gold. I look forward to tomorrow's special year end episode, my favorite episode to date is of my favorite car of all, the Continental Mark lll. Thanks for sharing this exciting video!!! 🎉🎈🥳

[@What.its.like.]

This car is super stellar the lines are just gorgeous.. And that’s coming from somebody that never really cared for this car from just looking at pictures but in person it’s totally different it has a presence.. and it’s fast and it’s proof that a front wheel drive car can look good and be relatively fast..

[@carlmontney7916]

Being born in the '50s by the time I was a freshman in high school that would have been 1966. That was one of the greatest eras for car designers and as teenagers we went nuts every year when new models came out. I remember seeing 65 rivieras, boat tail rivieras, toronados, caddies, T-Birds, and suicide door Lincoln Continentals, all of the really cool models. We saw them all. Added benefit was the fact that there were still quite a few cars from the '50s on the roads as well, even as a few from the 30s and the occasional model A and model t. So it was a good time to be a kid who was car crazy.

[@What.its.like.]

I was born way too late new cars might be safer and faster but they are boring and hollow in ways they feel fake in a lot of ways new cars are appliances these were machines

[@carlmontney7916]

@@What.its.like. Also, you could actually work on them yourself without having to have a bunch of fancy special use factory tools and computers for diagnostic purposes.

[@mikeweizer3149]

Carl Montney TELL ME ABOUT IT! Even import cars caught my fancy!!!!!.

[@slicksnewonenow]

The '66 was absolutely a work of art. In '67, Old started tarting them up with the vinyl top and things... Kinda wrecked a gorgeous design. The car starts gaining weight the second year of production.😒 There is no torque steer in these, or the early front drive Eldorado. The '70s were real beasts in the performance department, but weren't as pretty as the '66 cars. The cloth in those interiors was nylon... It wore pretty well. The Toro is one of my favorite cars. It was designed to pay tribute to the old Cord front drive cars of the 30s... The design of the '66 perfectly gets that point across.

[@What.its.like.]

I love this car I really kind of sort of want one now in the blue that I just featured with the nylon seats

[@slicksnewonenow]

@@What.its.like. they're really nice cars. The one that you featured is in incredible condition... If it's reasonably priced, you might consider financing it... They're going up up up in price. Believe it or not, back in the Eighties, you almost couldn't GIVE one away... And they were still absolutely dirt cheap in the Nineties. Everyone was goofy for Chevelles, Camaros and Skylarks. But over the last few years, the prices on these have gotten astronomical. This one reminds me of one that a friend had back in the Nineties. Identical, but it was ordered without the vinyl top. Back in the early Eighties, I had a buddy in Houston who had a maroon '66 with tan interior... It was also about as clean as this blue one. I don't think that Lou might have paid $1,200 for it. Anyhow... They're as solid and reliable as an Eldorado. Probably a GREAT investment because they're rarer than the Eldos. It sure is a nice car!

[@chrism.4544]

The Riviera and Riviera GS had the optional console shifter with bucket seats while the Eldorado and Tornado had the rare optional console with bucket seats that was just a console minus the shifter mechanism which remained on the steering column.

[@philipstreechon4523]

Nice car.

[@What.its.like.]

I love this color combination

[@ROXSTARCorvette4371]

Wow. Just wow. A stunning car. Interesting paint color too. I can see why you're in love! Lol!

[@What.its.like.]

I love this color combo

[@kennethmello5353]

That would be Eddie money and the song is I think I’m in love

[@tigre7739]

These have such a striking design! I'm not sure, but I think that I did like them the first time I ever saw one, which was most likely in an old magazine ad at the time, but I think that I remember liking the look, but I do know that they've always looked very intriguing to me! Once again though, this detailed, up close and personal look, at this pristine model, does give a whole new perspective, and I can say that I do think it is a gorgeous automobile! The interior is really amazing, and I agree, the gauges and instrument panel is a work of art! 🤩 The instrument panel usually doesn't strike up as much interest in me as the interior itself does, but this definitely is the exception! 😎

[@What.its.like.]

Totally agree with everything you said =)

[@MonsterHobbiesModelCarGarage]

455 front wheel drive. I have been in one..later year though...but such forward throwing torque...you wouldn't believe it!

[@denislandry7577]

Just another treat !

[@What.its.like.]

=)

[@daveridgeway2639]

Hi Justin, Grate video! Thank you for explaining the GM "E" body platform. You are also very accurate in regards to the high end full-size personal luxury cars at that time, i.e. Pontiac Grand Prix, Oldsmobile Toronado, Buick Rivera, Ford Thunderbird and the Chrysler 300. When you are driving or in riding the passenger seat of a Oldsmobile Toronado or a Cadillac Eldorado, keep in mind, that there is no transmission or driveshaft tunnel in your way and also there is no harmonic noise and vibration from the floor what so ever, it feels like you are sitting on your living room couch, even if you take your shoes off! They don't build them like that anymore! Please reply. Dave...

[@What.its.like.]

I’m hoping to drive one of these this summer that would be epic I got to drive a 75 as well as a 76 Cadillac Eldorado but this has significantly more power.. I was always kind of like those cars are very eh I never really got into the Toronado until after doing this review that car is so cool like I still think about it there’s a couple cars the review this year that I think about a lot that is one of them they aren’t Uber Uber expensive yet and it’s just a great package

[@Donald_Shaw]

I've driven an Oldsmobile Toronado with a diesel engine... It was great off the line, but then it was an absolute dog. Wouldn't even dare to pass someone on the highway. Love the styling and the no hump flat floor. Thanks Jay for featuring this beautiful automobile.

[@What.its.like.]

Thank you for digging this episode. =)

[@noneed4me2n7]

We had a neighbor hear me who owned one I used to constantly admire growing up in the early 80s. Often wonder what became of that car. Didn’t find out what it was till years later but it always stuck out to me. First front wheel drive since the cord and not a total failure of tech. The drivetrain was used in the GMC RVs I believe.

[@What.its.like.]

=) great story glad to bring back those memories

[@stevenhoman2253]

Ribbon speedo's, be they a moving vertical column, or a semi conical horizontal strip, or a coloured bar which turns red above a certain set speed, I just love them. I don't like digital readouts, because you have to read them, as apposed to looking at a single region. The 60s dashes were the best ever, and they have never been exceeded in either elegance or ergonomics as far as I am concerned.

[@What.its.like.]

I love this dash and button layout, i’ve seen the Riviera from this era has roughly the same dashboard I wonder if the Cadillac does as well?

[@stevenhoman2253]

@@What.its.like. Not sure, I know I've seen it, but I also wonder to what extent GM would want to maintain the air of exclusivity for the Cadillac? Sure, the Riviera and the Toranado are at the high end, so some commonality is fine, but with Cadillac, it always needed to have some added sparkle, who knows?

[@stevenhoman2253]

The El Dorado is also my favourite Cadillac body style from the 60s. They reprised the style theme in a Cadillac in the 80s, 90s? Not sure, but I love that as well. It is something about the flat and extended hip line, which presents as a shelf, which also has the sweep back, with the perfect contrast of curves throughout. Probably more to tell, but, well. Tell me I'm wrong, Jay. I know it's personal, but you know? For the size, it is a very heavy car at 2 metric tons approx. I had heard that they had two transaxle gearboxes, with one operating via a double heavy-duty chain and the other using more traditional pinion to the transmission drive. The first being less reliable due to stress on the chains. That is what I heard, anyway.

[@What.its.like.]

=)

[@rogersmith7396]

The 66 Olds had a variable speed torque converter. These are considered the best for performance but after one year GM decided it was additional expense and complexity and from 67 on the Olds and Eldorado got a one speed with their THD 425 trans. The motor homes used the same trans with a GVW of 13,000 pounds where they were less reliable. Bullet proof in the cars. I am told the internal components are the same as a THD 400 RWD.

[@stevenhoman2253]

HI Jay, first a very happy new year to you and your family. Thanks for this great car model for the reveal on New Year's Eve, You spoil us, thankfully. Now I'm hanging out with excitement for all the cars coming up in 2023.

[@What.its.like.]

Happy new year to you as well

[@SpockvsMcCoy]

There were two reasons that almost all new cars then made a heater and/or defroster optional. The first reason was that some buyers lived in desert communities where it rarely was cold. The second reason was to keep the base price lower which was a number that a prospect would often consider. Sales for the introductory 1966 Toronado were quite strong...but sales declined significantly from 1967 to 1970. There were a few reasons for the sales decline. The first reason was the limited appreciation for front-wheel drive (the rear-wheel drive Riviera of the same model years sold much better, as did the Ford Thunderbird). The second reason was the debatable styling of the 1968, 1969, and 1970 Toronado. Also, the 1967 to 1970 Eldorado was a competitor for a limited front-wheel drive market.

[@What.its.like.]

Thank you so much for sharing that insight =)

[@glennso47]

@@What.its.like. Does anyone know why if you get a puncture in a tire sidewall a shop won’t patch it. But they will if the puncture is in the tire tread area? I recently had a tire leak air and I took it to a repair shop and they said that I would need a new tire because the puncture was in the sidewall. Thanks.

[@penguinsfan251]

@@glennso47 The sidewalls are too thin to patch.

[@rogersmith7396]

Never seen an American car without heat/defrost. Heaters were somewhat optional on British Sports cars. Defrost sounds like a DOT reg to me.

[@SpockvsMcCoy]

@@rogersmith7396 More likely to see a car with heater delete if it was originally sold new in Florida, Arizona, etc. Otherwise it was a mandatory option.

[@montymatilda]

What a fine example of a stunning design. Certainly in my top 5. I always wanted to own one when it was practical to use them as a daily. Never got the chance but did own a 1970 Buick Riviera GS. The Riviera designs were stunning as well, not quite what the Oldsmobile was. Didn't care too much for the Eldorado. I agree that this was one of Bill Mitchell's best designs, maybe the best. Beautiful. Thanks Jay.

[@What.its.like.]

This just got int the top ten

[@stevenhoman2253]

Your daughter is a treasure, toodle ohh back to her. Bill Mitchell made GM a star, I think.

[@What.its.like.]

She’s great she came over and was like can I say the sign off =) Little Gto is her favorite song

[@stevenhoman2253]

Those wheel arches are just something. The proportions are wildly elegant, and the whole design speaks in a calm but firm voice. They really got this right and I have been wondering ever since, why FWD cars never have flat floors anymore? They all have transmission tunnels, for what? Structural strength and crumple zones don't need the hump and exhaust systems aren't a drive shaft thick, so what is it for?

[@What.its.like.]

I wondered the same

[@rogersmith7396]

My 85 Saab runs the exhaust through a tunnel and has the 5 speed shifter on it. Both my 85 and 86 have basically flat rear floors.

[@stevenhoman2253]

Well frankly Jay, I would very much love this car shipped to me in Australia. (with no money down, zero repayments, as I'm on a pension.) what I want and would like are so different from what I can have, though. Hope you and your families are fine in the blizzard conditions and you have power. It is warm, sticky and humid here, sorry, but it is always less than perfect somewhere in the world.

[@What.its.like.]

The weather is actually been pretty decent here the last couple days it was 60°F yesterday .. which is like spring weather going to be in the 50s the next few

[@stevenhoman2253]

@@What.its.like.Oh okay, I was reading reports of fountains freezing in the Carolina's, which is cray talk. It is very vivid difference from here, as it is 37c here. (conversion....conversion, Just under 100f and humid and sticky, with still air conditions and no relief over the night.) I gotta keep the doors and windows shut or risk sinking and drowning.

[@CORVAIRWILD]

I have 2 '66 Deluxe Trumpet gold survivors, 1 I've owned since 1979

[@What.its.like.]

That’s awesome man is there any torque steer What is the acceleration like.. would you say the Oldsmobile Toronado is a underrated 60s muscle car?

[@gene978]

WOW JAY! Almost 14.5K Subs. Congrats! 🎉🎈🎊. Now you can afford to buy me that OLDS Toronado

[@What.its.like.]

Yeah it’s crazy I was hoping to get to 15,000 before the end it was a tall order though considering we just had 10,000 by September but it’s just a goal.. I can’t afford to buy myself an Oldsmobile Toronado.. I don’t make that kind of money that big KZbinrs make..

[@mwyatt222]

The band l was in bought an as new Cadillac Eldorado convertible from the late 60s l believe that had a 501cu inch front wheel drive in the late 70s. l bought a brand new lmpala SS transverse v8 front wheel drive around 2005. lt was stolen shortly after 30k on the clock but l loved that car. FWD's are good.

[@What.its.like.]

I’ve found some FWD cars are great in the snow but not all are great 93 civic great in snow 2014 veloster not so great (tires may have had something to do with it ) 2001 Honda van excellent in the snow we have a 2006 Honda Odyssey as well and it’s absolutely terrible in the reason it’s terrible is the traction control system.. as soon as it feels slippage it gives up

[@ledoshuffle]

Liked the new TOODALOO

[@What.its.like.]

=)

[@rogersmith7396]

I was told Mitchel was head of GM design but the car was designed by someone else. Jay Leno appears with the designer on his viewing.

[@youtubecarspottersguide1]

like the. 66-67 tornados fav is the compac s 1960-69s corvairs ,darts, valants , Americans , falcons , comets

[@jasoncarpp7742]

I'm too young to have been around when the first Olds Toronado was introduced.

[@What.its.like.]

Me too, after reviewing this one I want to find one to maybe purchase one day they are super cool I would really like to drive one this summer if it’s possible.

[@jasoncarpp7742]

@@What.its.like. The Toronado was intro'd in 1966, I was born in 1973.

[@What.its.like.]

That’s awesome I wasn’t born until 1989... which makes me a millennial.. ironically I don’t think or act like A millennial. I’m thinking about making an episode about the Classic Car hobby dying off and why that might be. I think it would be a really cool episode we need to get more young people in this hobby. It’s a hobby for everyone =)

[@mammothscott1455]

Thought the 66 was the most stylish IMO. Had a buddy in school whose dad had a 66, in a slightly lighter blue color, no vinyl top.

[@What.its.like.]

I will find a 66 and totally do it if I can find a 66 and a 67 I’ll compare them =) i’m not entirely sure which one I like better the 67 did look great to me

[@rogersmith7396]

As a kid, the lawyer down the street was on retainer at the Olds dealership. He got a new Tornado every year so I am familiar with all the models. Frankly the Olds interior never compared with the Eldorado. Another friend had a boat tail Riviera. Likewise it did'nt compare well with the Cad.

[@What.its.like.]

I have yet to see the 67 Cadillac equivalent.. I totally dig the toronado I’d own one of these I drove a 75 tornado and El Dorado and honestly the tornado I think was better why would you pay more money and get less.

[@rogersmith7396]

@@What.its.like. I love the 67-70 Eldorado and consider it second to the V 16 Cad of the 30s as the best looking American car. I drove my moms all the time in high school and now have one I've painted to duplicate hers. I detest the later Eldorados and have driven some of those. The 67 has drum brakes and an old 429 Engine, as well as an old ladies interior. I also don't like the wheels and hide away headlights on the 67. The 70 has disk brakes and the new 500 as well as a better interior. I've seen one Toronado with a nice interior but have seen several which look poverty spec, very down market. My dad paid $6600 for the 70 Eldo new. Adam on Rare Cars collects all the old boats in new condition. He has about 50. He is looking for a 66 Toronado. Has 2 Eldos a 67 and a 69 I think. Also has all the Lincolns. The Lincolns have better build quality. At least back in the day an Olds was'nt a Cadillac. We traded a 98 in on the Eldorado.

[@What.its.like.]

I need to reach out to Adam he doesn’t live that far away I think he’s in Detroit or the Detroit suburbs of Michigan which would be about four 4 1/2 hours down the road see if he wants to collaborate that would be really cool..

[@rogersmith7396]

@@What.its.like. He just did one with Ed from the Netherlands. He would be interested if you could give him a lead on a 66 Toronado, cheap and perfect.

[@What.its.like.]

I know I saw that that was really cool I wish I knew Ed was in the region I’m a huge fan of his. I don’t see going to the Netherlands in the foreseeable future but who knows.. =)

[@stevenhoman2253]

The engineers at Volvo once claimed that approaching 200HP in a FWD vehicle was simply begging for a torque steering induced crash. I prefer RWD, but they are fewer on the road. There are plenty of 200 plus HP cars on the road, and I have not heard any complaints. Considering what the GM engineers achieved dynamically, perhaps the toe out of the tyres was their geometric solution to the torque steer, which resulted in heavy tyre wear? Perhaps the engineers have riddled the jankyness out of FWD? Come to think of it, I had a Nissan Maxima with the proper transmission and that was a very powerful car, without any torque vices at all. So maybe I just answered my own question. That was a great engine, I forget the model, but a well known powerhouse, which stood up well to twin turbo action. I had it naturally aspirated, and 3.5 DOHC 24 valve V6 engines are a hoot., it could easily break traction.

[@rogersmith7396]

Olds researched the Mini and their FWD work was pioneering.

[@planestrainsdogsncars4336]

Who says steel wheels cant be sexy ...these are the best looking wheels before alloys were ever a thing. The flow through ventilation with rear window vent was soon dropped because it was capable of creating a partial vacuum at speed with carbon - monoxide sucked back into the cabin.

[@What.its.like.]

I live the wheels on this, wow I didn’t know that

[@rogersmith7396]

The vents let water into the car.

[@NeedtoSpeak]

The front wheel drive kind of freaked folks out. I believe it had specially engineered front tires by Firestone….regular tires were not recommended due to the stresses of this vehicle. Either way, as I recall…..you were on first name basis with your tire dealer🤣

[@What.its.like.]

I hope to find a 66 and drive this year or at least go for a ride those are sweet cars

[@jamesglenn6461]

My grandfather had a 67' , still going in the late 70's. No torque steer, I think because of the type of transmission/ engine layout. T-shaped.

[@What.its.like.]

That’s awesome leads to the question if they had zero torque steer back then why can’t they make cars now with no torque steer

[@jamesglenn6461]

@@What.its.like. The T-shape layout takes up more space, and probably cost more (cuts into profits) than sideways layout. Torque steer is generally from unequal length axle shafts. But also slipping differentials in the transaxle unit. Because they're built cheaply. But not sold cheaply.

[@avp217]

Jay Leno owns a heavily modded '66 Toro. Curiously, he converted it to rear wheel drive, which to me destroys its unique (at the time) selling point.

[@jeffshadow2407]

Jay Leno's Toronado is a heavily modified 1967 he bought for $900 in the valley area. He added the 1966 "eyebrows".

[@rogersmith7396]

Yeah, his has over 1000 HP.

[@leightonfarms4962]

👍👍👍👍👍

[@thomastremel3846]

a WHOPPING 10 MPG!

[@kennethmello5353]

I just saw this video I noticed you put it out 11 months ago. Do you know if his car is still for sale and with the asking price is?

[@What.its.like.]

It’s gone it was a stellar example

[@mariuskancel9115]

La Toronado c'est la Citroën " Déesse" américaine !!!

[@rogersmith7396]

You don't get torque steer with a longinitudinal engine. You do get it with a transverse engine. I have a 70 Eldorado and two Saabs.

[@What.its.like.]

Thank you for that information =)

[@aaronwilliams6989]

Cool looks in the front but weird in the back.

[@What.its.like.]

It looks awesome in person

[@aaronwilliams6989]

@@What.its.like. I've seen them. Over all they don't look bad.

[@automatedelectronics6062]

They were way to heavy to have torque steer. Because these Toronados and El Dorado's were so nose heavy, they lost most of the FWD advantages and would plow through turns. You'd better keep your foot in it when taking a curve fast or you would end up going where the front of the car was pointing. About the only FWD remaining was absolute traction. Put snow or off-road tires on the front wheels and you could plow through almost any severe roads conditions. The THM425 was designed on the TH400, but because the THM425 turned in the opposite direction, the internal gears were cut at and opposite angle. Although they will fit, some make the mistake of using THM400 gearing, but it won't last long. A heavy duty version of this THM425 was built, designated the THM475 and was used with the Olds 455 V8 in the GMC Motorhomes. Curiously, the THM425 and 475's used the same transmission filter that the ST400 and THM400 used through the 1967 model year, until they ended production. Many would consider the THM425 a transaxle as it was used in FWD applications(and experimental RWD applications), but it is NOT a transaxle. The differential housing was a separate unit bolted to the transmission. The drive axles snapped into the differential gears. On the wheel side was another story. The axle ends which were held into the drive hubs were tapered tri-pots(part of the outer C.V. joints) and retained by a single nut as most are today, but the tapered tri-pot ends were very difficult to remove and I'd seen many destroyed. These Toronados were always gas-hogs and in 1974 held first place at 4 mpg. The 1974 1/2 Ford Elite with the 400 V8 held 2nd place at 6 mpg. My parents had the Ford Elite and by defeating the timing vacuum emission controls and advancing the timing, the car then got atleast 12 mpg around town and I got as much as 26 mpg on the highway running 55-60 mph.

[@What.its.like.]

Awesome information and insight thank you so much for taking the time to share that with us =)

[@automatedelectronics6062]

@@What.its.like. I realize that you have a limited time for your videos, so if I can, I like to add a little more in-depth information from my own hands-on knowledge. There are many geeks like me who like to know what's under the skin, which can be a work of art and engineering in itself. Plus, I have way too much time on my hands! lol

[@rogersmith7396]

The magazines of the time said the Olds and Eldo handled well although their 4 wheel drum brakes were suspect. Our Eldo had no tire problems. Although I used to smoke them from time to time.

[@glennso47]

Sounds like you are lucky to even get a chassis and a steering wheel in the standard model. 😮 but does it have coat hooks? What is torque steer?

[@What.its.like.]

Torque steer happens in front wheel drive vehicles when they have unequal axel lengths..? Basically what happens is the steering wheel is always being fight you’re fighting to drive it straight essentially a lot of modern cars have it if they have over 200 hp and wants to pull to the left or the right not go straight down the road

[@glennso47]

@@What.its.like. Thanks. I never heard of it until now. Even though I have a 2011 Hyundai Sonata with front wheel drive. I don’t think I have experienced it.

[@breckhollis1089]

But....that vinyl top....what were they thinking...

[@What.its.like.]

That interior though.. after doing this review I really kind of sort of want this car the seats are like no other seat that I’ve ever sat in before or since for that matter. The instrument cluster one of the best of the 60s if not, ever. This it was such a stellar car that never striked my fancy until being in one

[@StonedOli]

It's not Super, it's Second Gear. ;)

[@What.its.like.]

It is super that’s what the owners manual refers it to as.. I’ll put that clip in the next video S stands for super on the turbo hydra matic

[@rogersmith7396]

No thats the warp speed setting.

[@glennso47]

I thought it was the first American front wheel drive car since Adam and Eve were kicked out of the Garden. 😅

[@What.its.like.]

Hahaha I never heard that before

[@glennso47]

@@What.its.like. I just made it up so you wouldn’t have heard it before. BUT YOU HEARD IT FIRST right here on your website! Don’t you feel fortunate? (Sarcasm off. )😁

[@stevenhoman2253]

Here's hoping someone gives you a smaller bodied camera for your birthday, mate. You don't have to answer my idle comments, I don't expect it, your life would pass you by. It takes me 45 minutes to watch a 10-minute video of yours. Hah.

[@What.its.like.]

I film these with two cameras a go pro and that mirrorless DSLR

[@stevenhoman2253]

@@What.its.like. Oh well done, you're well ahead of me. I am appreciating getting the regular updates and I look forward to them daily. Cheers again.

[@rogersmith7396]

It would make more sense to try and fit a 5th of Jack Daniels in the glove box like the real world.

[@chrism.4544]

Riviera has better suspension than Eldorado or Toronado. The Riviera GS is even better than the Riviera suspension was.

[@What.its.like.]

I’ve heard the same I haven’t seen the Eldorado yet in person but out of the three of them on paper I like the tornado the most, But I’ve heard that they look better than they drive

[@stevenhoman2253]

If you, or anyone else, can let me know or explain the American proclivity for using the French word Coupe, pronounced coop-ay yet pronouncing it in the same way as the place where chickens rest during the night as in Coop? I lived there for a while and was always getting baffled how French words were misused. An entrée, for example, means entrance, and elsewhere it is used to refer to the beginning. I would sometimes order an entrée as I wasn't very hungry, and the largest portion I have ever seen would show up?? The world doesn't change according to this, it isn't important, just an idle curiosity is all. I am not having a go at anybody or country. I love Americans as individual people, as I met very few nasty ones. Cool?

[@What.its.like.]

Eh I’m finding out that every part of the world says things different.. and that’s all it is, just different pronunciations like the south says ambulance weird.. but that’s how they say it some people get too hung up on pronunciations.. what the end of 1937 ford video.. I sing the beach boys little deuce Coupe but I think a little deuce Coupay just doesn’t sound right.. I’ve gotten criticize for saying Porche wrong I don’t say Porsche ah because to me anybody that says Porsche ah just sounds kinda douchie so I just say Porsche

[@rogersmith7396]

I live near Versailes, MO. Pronounce Ver sales. N'est pas?

[@MonsterHobbiesModelCarGarage]

I have a model car unboxing video for the 1970 Toronado right here : kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZqOtp3qfhJKJq6c

[@What.its.like.]

Thanks for sharing the link

[@MonsterHobbiesModelCarGarage]

@@What.its.like. thank you for making the video! Maybe sometime in the future you'll get a chance to show us the 1970 and, by a miracle, I'll find the super-rare 1966 Toronado model kit. I think you might have me beat though!

[@ceedoubleyou]

just one Q, why do Americans pronounce Toronado, with an,"R", between the ,"A" and the, "D"?

[@glennso47]

Because they can.

[@rogersmith7396]

Never heard it. Toronado is a made up word like Kodak. It has no intrinsic meaning.