1969 German Grand Prix Highlights

Highlights of the 1969 German Grand Prix at the Nurburgring Nordschleife. This was the last Grand Prix run on the original Nurburgring with no safety features.

[@bloqk16]

This is truly remarkable video footage of a bygone era of Formula 1 Grand Prix racing. I followed motorsports back then, but living in the US, only read about such races via print media; so to see this race as it was televised 50 years ago is a GREAT TREAT!! There's loads of aspects I can write about this. But, I'll exercise patience and space them apart in the days to come. One aspect I will write about now is the amazing logistics that were done to televise this event. Being a 14 miles/23km race course, setting up the cameras was a monumental task, especially so given it was only a 14 lap race. A lot of work preparations for so little repeated use of the cameras along the race course.

[@cripesclassworks5654]

How many views will today's racing receive in 50 year's time? These precious videos are the stuff of legend.

[@maxcrittenden9109]

I was there! Watching from up in a tree at Schwalbenschwanz. Thanks for the memories!

[@brianmessemer2973]

Max Crittenden Cool story! Thank you for sharing! Danke sehr!

[@dankoozer3983]

I was there too. Camped beside the track but can't remember the name of the area. We were across the track from a small hill that was covered with camps & girls running around in bikinis. Those were the days my friend. US Army-Giessen, Germany.

[@fedbet909]

The Golden Ages!

[@RikiNewtonMusicianSongwriter]

Wow !! Nice one.... Rx

[@gangoffour6690]

I was several branches above you in the same tree 🌲. I pissed on your head 😆.

[@1957charlyheinz]

Da war ich dabei, wir hatten immer in der Hatzenbachkurve unser Zelt aufgeschlagen und blieben 1 Woche lang dort zum Camping.

[@ysgol3]

Ickx was so brilliant from 1968-70, and then, somehow his F1 career seemed to fade away. So great to see the wonderful Bruce Mclaren, smiling as always, on the podium in his last German GP.

[@chopperking1122]

jacky ickx was driving for ferrari in 1973 , but for some reason they didnt go to the german GP , and he was that determined to drive there , he took a one-off drive with mclaren and came third

[@ysgol3]

@@chopperking1122 Hi, yes, behind Stewart and Cevert in their last 1-2. Ickx was so brilliant, and still in his 20s in 1973, when Ferreri was at their lowest point! He did drive for Lotus in 1974 of course, presumably expecting great things since Lotus won the 73 Constructors' title (facilitated for them by Tyrrell withdrawing from the final GP at The Glen following Cevert's horrendous death there). Maybe it was just that Jacky kept making decisions which were, in hindsight of course, no good - rather like Rindt of course, who didn't strike gold until his last, and ultimately tragic, season.

[@maxmulsanne7054]

Jacky Ickx is also one of the few drivers to ever return to that misguided outfit known as Ferrari. Phil Hill, Lauda, and of course Surtees (after the falling out with Eugenio Dragoni) had enough of the political bs and never came back.

[@ysgol3]

@@maxmulsanne7054 Great point, I never thought of that, thank you. Ickx was a strange one wasn't he, he didn't support Stewart's safety campaign (like Rodriguez and Surtees didn't - horrible man, Surtees) but he was a clean driver and of course survived it all, and nowadays he seems very different - very pally with Stewart, and I think he now believes JYS was right all along.

[@maxmulsanne7054]

@@ysgol3 You are indeed right about Ickx finally concluding that Stewart was on the right track about safety - as I had read that from several sources years (decades?) ago. Odd that Ickx - as much of a critic he was of Stewart/F1 safety crusade - he put a screeching halt to run-starts at Le Mans after his 1969 protest during the start of the race. Yet at that time he still didn't want to see the 'Ring altered or replaced with another circuit.

[@VirtualMayhem]

Race starts after 6:21. Thank you for posting this video!

[@brianhartley2258]

Having the video without the banter from the announcers made this video exceptionally nice to watch, it was almost like being at the race itself; with just hearing the roar of the engines and the squealing of the tires. The captions in the video was a very nice informative touch to this post. I remember reading about the account of this race from the Autoweek publication I subscribed to at that time. Seeing video of the race is something I thought I'd never see in my lifetime. Given the size of the 'Ring, and given the hilly terrain and being heavily forested, setting up the cameras for the telecast must have been near nightmare.

[@jodan4]

This brings back memories. I went to Drivers school in Sept 69. Unfortunately, I made and error and totaled my car at Scwalbenschwanz. . I had a Alfa GT Jr at the time.

[@loulasalle]

I saw Ickx win, that year in Canada!

[@marguskiis7711]

Only year after debut of Dan Gurney`s full face helmet most of drivers have adopted it.

[@SirOliverNorwell]

The year before this race Jim Clark was killed in Hockenheim. The year after this race Piers Courage (Race at Zandvoort) and Jochen Rindt (Qualifying in Monza) died, Rindt becoming the 1st and only posthumous F1 World Champion. Racing at that time was awesome and fascinating, yet absolutely life-threatening at the same time.

[@TheFokker03]

but,did you know,Jim was slated to drive at Brands Hatch that very day in the BOAC 1000kms?Apparently contractual obligations to Firestone,prevented him from taking part,although his name appears nowhere in that '68 races programme.

[@SirOliverNorwell]

Didn't know that.

[@JohnJ-fj2xe]

And Bruce McLaren would be killed the following June.

[@MarcKorting]

At that event Gerhard Mitter died in the afternoon practice session on Friday between Flugplatz and Schwedenkreuz.

[@RikiNewtonMusicianSongwriter]

Graham Hill's helmet design (London Rowing Club) was brilliant ~ as it made him so beautifully identifiable... Plus he was a fabulous racing driver too of course !! Rx

[@ysgol3]

To this day, 45 years after his tragic and unnecessary death, i think that nobody in British sport, maybe even world sport, has come close to Graham's unique combination of huge achievement, staggering physical courage and hilarious humour. Not even close !!

[@RikiNewtonMusicianSongwriter]

ysgol3 - fabulous comment - & of so very true regarding Graham Hill. Nice one. He was a lovely kind man too that you felt good to be around. I’ll always have fond memories - cheers 🥂

[@ysgol3]

@@RikiNewtonMusicianSongwriter Thank you !

[@aureliobrighton1871]

When I was a boy ... GH seemed to me the only right incarnation of the words British & Racing driver .. I clearly remember then asking my father how it was possible a person being the exact mold of my imagination .. from the name via the hair to the whole expression . his answer was a meaningful 'those do' :)

[@RikiNewtonMusicianSongwriter]

Completely brilliant !! Thank you so much for this historic upload. Formula 1 at it's absolute finest. Peace. Rx

[@TheChumbaba]

Than and ever the most beautiful motor sound.

[@alirioruediger7853]

Es waren dann die "Wilden Jahre" des Rennsports, die ein jede liebte.

[@philippem4400]

matra ....... the most beautiful F1 of all the times.

[@plantfeeder6677]

Bravo Jackie. Brilliantly fast driver. Thank you for your great drive at Lemans this same year. Ford's 4th straight. What a finish.

[@vincentsouchaud6717]

"Jacky.

[@DenverLapse]

it's time for this to get colorized and HD clarified. Legendary drivers, cars, crowd.

[@hovogliadileggere]

25 km and 98 corners!!! the green hell!!!

[@patrickdurst9623]

i was just 6 years old - my first F1 GP

[@andreicantago6736]

Thank you for sharing this video sir... We can clearly hear the drivers pumping the gas pedal before the start of the race... Nice.... Nice.....:) We are very grateful.... :)

[@bloqk16]

An aspect I marvel about F1 racing as shown in this 1969 video: Notice the absence of sponsors' patches on the drivers' uniforms and the cars themselves; which was pretty much limited to tires, fuel, and oil placards. It was a gentlemen's sport back then, where technology wasn't expensive to have competitive machinery under the FIA rules of the era.

[@timcolder2789]

Yes it was more about the driver's skill than the quality of the car or how rich the team was.

[@skyhigh6089]

Wrong. Lotus was sponsored by Gold Leaf cigarettes. And the car was as important as today -Stewart won the 69 title with his superior Matra monocoque: when Ken Tyrrell adopted March cars for 1970, with the same Cosworth engines, he was no longer a contender until Ken built his own cars.

[@fastrelief]

Fantastic job! It would be a dream to have videos highlights like this of all f1 races from the past!

[@bowlchamps37]

There is a spanish forum that has every race uploaded. Just google it.

[@sheilasembly-crum8447]

True racing at its best. Just concerned about the drivers' open exposure to danger.

[@aureliobrighton1871]

Beautiful machines ... raced lightning quick on that narrow track .. how was it possible those spiderlike constructions did digest the brute forces from jumps and bumps and humps . and what on earth gave a driver the confidence his car would 🎩🌹

[@skyhigh6089]

They weren't spiderlike. For starters, the Lotus and the Matra were already monocoque construction. And the others had pretty rigid tube cages.

[@aureliobrighton1871]

@@skyhigh6089 Thankyou, that is right. Only it is the 'legs' which makes it a spider in my simile. And if you state Lotus, you might ask Jochen Rindt about rigidity on that part. And there are prominent other names. In any case, to me it needed enormous confidence and luck to get away under full load lap by lap.

[@petebeatminister]

Formel 1 auf der Nordschleife... schade das es das nicht mehr gibt. Aber erschreckend zu sehen, wie nahe die damals die Zuschauer an die Strecke gelassen haben. Und das, obwohl ja schon Jahre vorher der Frankreich GP gezeigt hatte wie schlimm das ausgehen kann. Und auch der Jägerzaun und die komischen Steine hätten daran nichts geändert.

[@markhughes7927]

Civilised racing - near people and in Nature.

[@doriannritter2615]

Real racers!

[@marguskiis7711]

I like how police is managing the minor crash of Jo Siffert and Siffert looks like they ask a fee from him at 12:43.

[@hitcher1779]

Such a wonderful film of a special race

[@Jaecht88]

8:20 are they standing next to the track with F1 cars passing by🤣

[@robwilde855]

Of course. Those were times when people were trusted to have common sense, far different from these nanny times.

[@GregBrownsWorldORacing]

Dayyum, that shit was dangerous then!. Those who just ended up stuck in the ditch were saying Scheisse, but they should have been thanking their lucky star that day.

[@r.michaeldunwiddie2449]

I was there that day! My first GP seeing it live!

[@paulvandeheuvel9741]

Plenty of time to go to the loo or get a hamburger then! They came around 14 times every 8 minutes. Anyway, seeing Grand Prix cars racing is a win anywhere.

[@aleksandereverything6490]

Your a lucky legend, because the 1969 cars are my favorite generation of f1 cars. I Just wish i was alive in 1969.

[@ericmeechglobalnetwork2273]

Such an amazing era of motor sport!

[@sebastiangrumman8507]

Brilliant stuff. I used to get Road and Track every month to get Rob Walker's wonderful race reports.

How come they never mention KZbin Corner?

[@alistersutherland3688]

Great dice between Stewart and Ickx, but the Brabham was clearly faster that day. Not only that, but the reason that the Ring had its last year without safety features was because of Stewart, and he was persona non grata at that moment among everyone other than the driving fraternity (most of whom had gone on strike at Spa.) He hated this race. It had cost so many lives, ruined so many young men's bodies. The wrecks were horrendous. He may well have decided vying for the lead just wasn't worth it. He won pretty much everything else that year, including the title(s)

[@fazzxides8429]

Ickx, quickest in practice for pole and then quickest in the race, that’s all there is to it. Ickx made a poor start dropping down to 9th from pole. By the time he’d worked his way through the field into second, Stewart had established a commanding lead of over 10 seconds. Ickx had no trouble making that up. That would have told Stewart everything he needed to know about his prospects of holding Ickx off till the end of the race, he simply wasn’t quick enough. Second best on the day, that’s all. No disgrace in that.

[@timcolder2789]

Classic days when it more about the driver's skill than the car in most cases and not about sponsorship or how rich the team was. Not seen much footage from this era, although have seen earlier footage from the mid '60's Jim Clarke period. Jackie Stewart was a class act in the late '60's/ early '70's and always remember having a poster of him on my bedroom wall as a kid.

[@skyhigh6089]

Not quite... the sponsor age had already begun. And the car was as critical as ever -Stewart dominated the season with his superior Matra monocoque; when his team moved to using March cars for 1970, he ceased being a contender.

[@topcat4759]

@ skyhigh6809 I bow to your superior knowledge, I was only 4 at the time and had just got into the sport at the time. Not quite the same tv coverage back in the day so just commenting from books that I have read during the intervening period. Until Hunt and Lauda were "ruling the roost" Stewart was my favourite. Got more interested in bike racing in the late '70's with Sheene and Roberts and just a passing interest in F1 from Piquet to Mansell, Prost and Senna. Neither sport is anywhere near as exciting these days as technology rules even more so. F1 just more exciting at present with Mercedes not dominating as they have over the past 10 years or so.

[@vincentsouchaud6717]

"Clark.

[@timcolder8782]

@skyhigh6809 Stewart may have raced for BRM in 1970 but won the title the following year driving for Tyrell before retiring in 1973.

[@timcolder8782]

@vincentsouchard6717 fair enough, swallowed a reference book have we , unless you wish to make a constructive comment then why bother?

[@stenovitz]

Golden age! 05:21 imagine similar cameraman today!

[@richard.jansen]

My favorite was that Black and White car....

[@marguskiis7711]

Were engines started from onboard battery those days?

[@rolfdejonge3915]

Great! Thanks! ✌️🤠

[@videojockeysword]

Crazy compared to now!

[@timcolder2789]

Important days for car development.

[@mikekaatman3194]

67 through 69 were the sexiest F1 cars.

[@andyharman3022]

Early F1 aerodynamic designs. I think 1968 was when some cars started showing up with wings mounted on struts, which often failed, leaving the driver to cope with sudden loss of downforce in the middle of a turn. 1969 cars had wings integrated into the body. Probably not very effective by todays standard of making 3.5g's in a turn. I think 1.2g's is about what they would do. A modern street car with soft compound tires and no significant aero aids can do 1.2g's. All that said, I think I prefer 1967 as the cutoff point for beautiful, pure F1 car design before Pandora opened her box of aerodynamics. The 1967 Eagle was the most beautiful.

[@fabianrocha9924]

Very hard crashes for Courage and Siffert holy thing Unfortunely they werent so lucky in 1970 and 1971 sadly

[@greghoughton3004]

So, so sad to see no Jim Clark.

[@carlsaganlives4141]

Greg - Years ago I read his book ' At the Wheel '. Scottish farmer's son, I think ( photo of him on tractor).Great book,lots of biographical stories,well told.Found out he drove a stock car a couple times,couldn't believe how heavy and ill handling it was ,had great admiration for NASCAR drivers.What a great talent.So sad.

[@lewiskemp5893]

I started watching in1989..

[@user-ns7tv2li1u]

Great video... It's awesome to see how these Legends driving cars that not the same race by race...Mechanics were on fire after races...

[@deldridg]

Thank you for uploading this wonderful footage. I often wonder at what price point a modern car will match the performance of these, given the purposeful (v. low CG, aero etc.) nature of these cars - ie. perhaps not really fair to compare with a modern hot hatch! Having once owned a 911 and currently riding a superbike, it's easy to take the sort of accel and handling we get today for granted. I've not had much luck looking up the specs of these cars of the day - my guess would be HP (~300??) and weight (~500kg??) etc. Cheers and thanks again from Sydney, Aust - Dave

[@bloqk16]

@deldridg . . . don't sell yourself short with regards to looking up specs of the F1 cars from the 1960s. If you use a search engine such as Google, just type in the words of _1969 F1 Brabham_ and you'll get results of the BT26 that Jacky Ickx and Jack Brabham drove in that season. Same for Matra, just write in _Matra F1 1969_ and the results for the MS80 will appear. The commonly used F1 engine of 1969, Ford Cosworth DFV, was rated at over 400 HP. Ah! I noticed you are in Australia . . . I recall the "Tasman Series" taking place in your country back in the 1960s to the mid-70s; with those slightly downsized engines in the F1 cars; with Jim Clark and Graham McRae being multiple season champs.

[@deldridg]

@@bloqk16 Thanks for your response. As for specs, finding engine power/weight is about as far as I got. It would be interesting to find more 'standard' specs such as 0 - 100 km/h so as to make some basic comparisons. These are the numbers that elude me! I should have been more specific. Thanks for the heads up on the Tasman Series - I will look into that! Cheers, David

[@bloqk16]

@deldridg . . . Ah! You are looking for performance specs? Well, those were guarded secrets by the F1 teams, at least they were back in the mid to late 1960s as closely as I followed them back then; as no one wrote about acceleration performances or top-end speeds of the F1 cars. Something else, though, was that back in the '60s the vehicle instrumentation and telemetry was such that getting a measure of straight-line speeds was challenging; and probably not worth the efforts by the teams to do, as lap times was the primary concerns the F1 teams had during the race season. To get a read of top-end speeds of F1 cars, as what's in this 1969 YT post, the driver would have to report what the top-end rpm was at the top gear. From there, a person would have to calculate the gear ratio to the rpm reading; and that's how the km/h, or as me being a yank would do, in mph, to come up with the top-end speed. The gear ratios to rpms was how the top-end speeds were calculated with the sports cars than ran along the Mulsanne straight at Le Mans for the 24 hours race, well into the 1970s, where the Porsche 917 was calculated at a speed of 362 km/h - 225 mph.

[@torytronrud2413]

deldridg In its May 1976 issue, Road and Track magazine did a full performance test of a Ferrari 312B3, Niki Lauda's car from around 1974-75. It did 0-60 in 2,4 seconds, the quarter mile in 9.0, 0-100 in 4.3 and 0-140 in 7.0. Top speed was 192 mph. Curb weight was 1315 lbs. The V12 topped out at 12,000 rpm. Surprisingly, it got 6 miles per gallon. Braking from 100mph was 258 feet, nowhere near today's level. The 3-litre engine put out 490 bhp net with 300 lb ft torque (est). Phil Hill did the test.

[@bloqk16]

@@torytronrud2413 That is marvelous information you provided. THANKS!!

[@phrtao]

What I wish for is a formula with these cars but with all the modern safety features. I still watch modern F1 but it is these cars that I dream about driving and on the classic circuits !

[@kerrydevereux7798]

This is F1 !!!!! Not the overpriced crap we are stuck with now . I’m sure some tech achievements were available then , but not like the computerized robots of today . Communication was probably scant to drivers other side hen pit sign boards NO onboard telemetry for every nut , bolt , tire pressure. The drivers had to feel the cars . Now we have millionaires ( X10?) crybabies who only are happy with more and more . Teams that spend enough money to run a small City with engineers and crews of often over the 100’s , maybe more . F1 is still dangerous but not like watching these drivers , plus trackside safety was not the best . Look at the 8:20 or so section ?! Three people almost on the track , the Circuit looks as though barely any barriers. Give me this era of racing over the millionaires “ follow the leader !” any day .!

[@topcat4759]

@kerrydeveurex7798 could not have put it better myself. Unfortunately the same applies to the majority of motorsports classes these days no matter whether it is cars or bikes.

[@TheFokker03]

looks like it was filmed from a 405-line black & white telly!

[@joemarkus1589]

I was there

[@giovannimonzardo5701]

Queste si che erano grandi macchine .

[@deemagico]

balls of steel....

[@sergiorasa]

Fantastico!! Esses eram de fato malucos ! As ratoeiras muito velozes sem segurança nenhuma.

[@user-nq8oj9cc1f]

Un grandissimo pilota il n. 6 .

[@nilgunturkoglu3732]

Granios 🏁 🏎️🏁👍

[@gert-janboot3928]

Jacky Ickx the one and only real Ringmeister!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@jenbill]

12:49 dude just sitting on his burning car like he has no more Fs to give Ahahahahahah!

[@marguskiis7711]

Ikcx was so good driver, I wonder how he never managed to get title.

[@AmericasChoice]

Reliability issues, especially with the Ferraris.

[@punch845]

It should be very difficult to understand what's going on in the circuit from the grandstands with low communication technology while cars passing by every fifteen minutes.

[@unfairfight3625]

Driver at 10.48 realizes,,i messed up now that was my ride home.ps those hedges makes it look so soft and safe,like the road to your estate.its also very peaceful racing ,a very relaxing environment even for the drivers.everyone is in a big rush now,even murray,rip.

[@shadeburst]

That was NZ driver Piers Courage who earned a F1 drive with a great performance in the Tasman Series.

[@idiot-983]

The movie Grand Prix was very accurate !

[@aureliobrighton1871]

What a fantastic picture :)

[@starguy2718]

That, and Steve McQueen's "Le Mans" are my favorite racing movies!

[@paulvandeheuvel9741]

At the end there is a 46 car which is out of the race, but the wikipedia page on this race doesn"t mention a 46 car. Anybody know anything about that car?

[@probablygraham]

The driver standing next to the car looks like Jo Siffert, and he definitely broke down. But his number was 11. Someone mentioned that there were a number of formula 2 cars in the race which didn't get any championship points, so I assume that it is in fact one of those cars. I think the highest number that formula 1 cars were allocated was about number 30, so that would make sense.

[@terrystevens5261]

Siffert crashed in the Rob Walker Lotus 49B.@@probablygraham

[@eamonahern7495]

The rebel tree wouldn't have been very big back then I reckon

[@macca8562]

Back in the day when cars raced and over took each other, not like todays zzzzzzzzzzz formula 1, if they raced in my back garden today i would draw the curtains.

[@hoatattis7283]

macca as would I

[@bloqk16]

@macca . . . and back in the 1960s there were no pit stops for fuel and tires; the drivers had to be good with management of tire wear and fuel mileage. With regards to today's F1 cars/races: I guess today's attendees of the events enjoy watching a parade of multi-million dollar/billboard-clad machines. I certainly don't! It seems racing of all sorts, including NASCAR, is more about the spectacle than it is the race.

[@hoatattis7283]

@@bloqk16 I agree that is why I like Rallying

[@carlsaganlives4141]

Bloqk - Today,IMSA is hands down the best top series as far as overtaking and close racing throughout the respective classes.No manufacturer runs away with the title ,very competitive. The prototypes are way cool,GTLM and GTD always have tight dicing going on, and actually pretty much look like and share components with production cars.Friendly and approachable drivers,too.Highly recommend everyone disappointed and tired of F1 to become a fan.Road America kicks ass!

[@hoatattis7283]

@@carlsaganlives4141 Sorry Road America hahaha When was the last American WRC champion ?

[@chrislj2005]

Ickxx,Stewart? Who are the drivers? Nice upload,tx!

[@Chatta-Ortega]

It's amazing how amateurish F1 looked then compared to today. Safety seemed non-existent. Still, it was very entertaining and the cars had a wide variety of design concepts.

[@carlsaganlives4141]

Driver on left of Jackie Ickx looks like James Hunt.That can't be,right? Jolly good show!

[@aureliobrighton1871]

Well it would have suited young Wallis to smuggle his F3 Brab alongside Monsieur X :)

[@fazzxides8429]

@carlsagan lives - if you mean on the podium, that was Jackie Stewart.

[@carlsaganlives4141]

@@fazzxides8429 Yeah, right, the mutton chop 'sideburns' are a dead giveaway, lol. I meant one of the drivers who got tangled up in the karrusel, lighting up a smoke, at the end.

[@danielaengel3675]

03:20 Min. ---> Jo Siffert .

[@hairyarmpitlovernaturalbea6600]

Earliest example of playing national anthem for winning constructor on the podium in F1. British anthem for Brabham team

[@otaviorocha4156]

lets smoke one cigarrete after a litlle crash ( at 16,05)

[@TDBTylerable]

Am I right in saying this was one of the rare times Formula 2 cars were also on the grid?

[@shadeburst]

Yep, fifth to tenth places were all taken by F2 cars but they were denied drivers and constructors championship points.

[@richsackett3423]

9:28 Did they go around the Ring in the other direction in the old days?

[@yeahnahsweetas]

No, look again it's normal..

[@SirOliverNorwell]

More and better footage of that race can be found here (with captions of the standings). kzbin.info/www/bejne/q37XopaMja2AfrM

[@mrafard]

an asphalt rally

[@lars9168]

When the V12 was the best u can get...

[@RalphColmar]

Only V12 in the race was the BRM of Jackie Oliver who qualified a distant 16th and retired with 3 laps to go ;-)

[@gsmmibmw8080]

Wow these guys were true heroes, no safety at all and driving at too speeds, modern day drivers complain about a bit of rain

[@evanderer]

Ickx is the most unlucky driver ever how many grand prix in the lead before retiring because his Ferrari was too tired to go to the end ? HE SHOULD have been at least 2 or 3 times world champion Stewart did not like Ickx 2 yerars before he knew who was to be his serious rival Stewart always says nice words when he talks about Peterson fittipaldi ect but i never heard him say nice things on Ickw jealous scotish man

[@brianhartley2258]

I read from a historic automotive publication that Ickx's F1 successes towards the end of the 1969 season was due to Jack Brabham's injury that took him out of F1 competition for a while. It was written that with Jack Brabham out, then Ickx's BT26 racer received the first-rate parts/equipment that would have otherwise been used in Jack's racer. The article suggested that Ickx's impaired performances for 1969 was from getting second-rate parts/equipment from the Brabham team.

[@AmericasChoice]

@@brianhartley2258 Big difference between a Porsche Le Mans Sports car and an F1 car...you idiot.

[@brianhartley2258]

@America's Choice . . . I'm well aware of the differences with race cars. I pity you for the tail end comment you made . . . as it gives a hint of a life with bitterness to it.

[@AmericasChoice]

@@brianhartley2258 Sorry, that was a bit over the line. Ickx was rough on the Formula 1 Ferraris. Just watch the races. Jackie Stewart has said the same thing. Ickx was great in Sports Cars, though

[@cripesclassworks5654]

The winners ceremony at a recent gp in 2023 showed Ickx presenting the awards. How times have moved...

[@BrianTX409]

Only 24 years after the Holocaust. Must have seemed like yesterday. I know 9/11 does to me. I was working at DFW airport on that fateful day. Certainly not an apples to apples comparison considering how many suffered at the hands of the Germans.