1969 Plymouth Road Runner vs 1968 Chevrolet Camaro SS396 PURE STOCK DRAG RACE - no commentary

1969 Plymouth Road Runner A12 drag racing 1968 Chevy Camaro Super Sport 396
First car is a 1969 Plymouth Road Runner A12. Other is a 1968 Chevrolet Camaro SS. The Plymouth Road Runner A12 features a 440 V8 with 6 bbl carburetion. The Chevy Camaro has a L89 396. The Road Runner A12 was rated 390 horsepower, and the L89 Camaro 375 horsepower. Rear gearing for the Road Runner A12 is 4.10, and the Camaro Super Sport also has 4.10 gears. The Camaro SS396 features a 4-speed manual transmission, but the Road Runner has a TorqueFlite 3-speed automatic. Weight for the Camaro (with driver) is 3450 pounds. The Road Runner is slightly heavier at 3784 pounds. The L89 engine featured in the Chevrolet Camaro SS was the 375 horsepower version (called the L78) with FACTORY aluminum heads. It featured a solid lifer cam, forged crank and rods, an aluminum intake manifold, 4-bolt mains, and a compression ratio of 11:1. The aluminum heads didn't add any horsepower, but they did remove around 70-80 pounds from the front of the car. Only 272 L89 Camaros were produced. The Plymouth Road Runner A12 was actually a mid year option for 1969 and was only produced for around 6 months with 1432 in total. It came with a fiberglass lift-off hood, 15 inch steel wheels, HD radiator, HD drum brakes, 440 V8, 6 barrel carburetion on an Edelbrock aluminum intake manifold, 426 Hemi oil pump, high load valve springs, and mandated the 3-speed windshield wiper option. Great cars!
Pure Stock Muscle Car Drag Race. FAST factory appearing stock tire factory stock.
Remember, both cars participate in the Pure Stock Muscle Car Drag Race series, so please check out their website: www.psmcdr.com
Also make sure you find them out on Facebook.
The rules for PSMCDR are listed below:
For 1955 to 1979 musclecars built in United States and Canadian assembly plants with a minimum warranty of 12 months and 12,000 miles.
Any car running faster than 11.50 will be disqualified and will not have a qualifying time recorded.
Any convertible running faster than 13.50 will be disqualified and will not have a qualifying time recorded.
Casting numbers must be correct for the year and horsepower claimed including intake manifold, heads, and exhaust manifolds. Blocks do not have to be "numbers matching," but they must be the correct displacement. Overbores up to .070" are allowed. Stock cranks only.
All Engines - 1.5 extra points allowed over advertised.
The camshaft must be correct for the year, model, and horsepower claimed for the type of lifter (hydraulic or solid). Roller cams NOT allowed.
The valve train must be factory stock for the year, make, and horsepower claimed.
The ignition system must be stock, including the distributor, cap, coil, and wires. Points may be replaced with any electronic conversion that fits under the stock distributor cap.
The carburetor must be correct for the year, make, and horsepower claimed. Jetting and metering changes are permitted. THE CHOKE ASSEMBLY MUST BE IN PLACE AND FUNCTIONAL!
Cast-iron exhaust manifolds are mandatory and must be correct for the year, model, and horsepower claimed. Internal modifications to the exhaust manifolds are NOT allowed. Under no circumstances will headers be allowed, including those cars that came with headers delivered in the trunk. Pipes must be routed as they were originally for the year, make, model, and engine combination. Mufflers must be stock looking in design, that is, oval in shape. No glasspacks or straight pipes allowed unless installed as original equipment. Maximum muffler inlet and outlet size is 2.5 inches. X & H pipes allowed.
The radiator must be correct for the year, make, model, and horsepower claimed. No lightweight, aluminum radiators allowed.
The camshaft must be correct for the year, model, and horsepower claimed for the type of lifter (hydraulic or solid). Roller cams NOT allowed. Duration at .050" lobe lift must be within 1% of factory specs. Lift at the valve must be within 2% of factory specs. Maximum stall limited to 2200 rpm.
The transmission must be correct for year, make, model and engine of the car. 3-speed manuals may be upgraded to the correct 4-speed if originally available.
The rear axle must be of the same manufacturer as the car. Any gear ratio is allowed.
Reproduction tires or radial tires only.You are allowed to run tires one size over stock.
Factory wheels only.
Disclaimer: The Cars And Zebras KZbin channel is a news channel bringing results/news of drag racing with added history of automobiles. All footage/pictures used were either captured by the Cars And Zebras channel, or used for critique purposes under Fair Use.

[@tct9mm151]

Dang!! Now I'm finding myself adding in the funny quips and fart sounds! BRING BACK THE COMMENTARY

[@SpressoHead]

I always favored mopars back when these cars were affordable, but one my faves was my 68 396 ‘maro. What a fun car. People were so used to seeing the mouse motors in these. Never got tired of hearing people gasp when the hood was opened . . .

[@lunchsack6861]

Doesn’t get any closer than that. 2 monsters from back in the day.

[@DG-sf9ei]

Yea, awesome to see. The times these 2 cars ran are within a margin of driver error, with the Camaro being a manual transmission, it could have possibly had more potential with different shifting. The engine delivers next to the Road Runner, and a lighter weight car.

[@RimRig_AZ]

@@DG-sf9ei Great point!

[@sergeantmasson3669]

Lunch Sack, my '70 Torino 429 SCJ "drag-pack" car would beat either of those cars, easily. Consistent mid 10's. A few times, 10.3.

[@sergeantmasson3669]

@@DG-sf9ei Roadrunner is 400 pounds heavier and only 15 more HP than the Chevturd Camaro.

[@jimmeyer7632]

WTF !!!!!! WHERE'S MR POTTY MOUTH ..... DID HE GET ARRESTED FOR WALKING AROUND WITH MIRRORS ON HIS SHOES AGAIN ?????

[@JoeSmith-ey2xp]

Your obvious love of the cars was as much of the appeal of this channel as the actual races. Commentary made this a special channel, please bring it back.

[@andrewscars6258]

Why has the commentary stopped? When I saw this video come up I was really looking forward to your commentary after the last video not having any I don't understand why you stopped

[@paintslinger16]

Just not the same without commentary

[@dillongarza9262]

No cap

[@paintslinger16]

@@dillongarza9262 so you don’t have headwear? Not sure what thats got to do with my comment?

[@dillongarza9262]

@@paintslinger16 no cap

[@mrkemblegilstrap]

Yes avocado! Lol

[@therealojsimpson8024]

That A12 was a real steal.....but it’s no Ford Bronco

[@gregblack3860]

Thank god

[@mrkemblegilstrap]

OMG 😂

[@theREALnizzle]

Your commentary was epic. I hope everything is ok and you are able to bring back the commentary soon. God bless

[@bbgcars]

DUDE WHERE ARE YOU???? we miss the voices! is this your girlfriend posting this stuff for you??? hope you ayt! peace

[@badgerbait8351]

1968 Camaro commercial (2:27): "Independent coil spring front suspension". Dang! I knew there was something special about those cars!

[@sometimesieatcake4156]

Dang that first race was close! Wish I could see them race 10 times!!

[@stephenhensley7004]

Looked like the hole shot was the difference. Great race.

[@wymple09]

Camaro had a holeshot traction issue.

[@Apollocruz306]

I miss the commentary. Not the same with out pop culture references and fart jokes

[@theangrydragon182]

There’s something soothing about hearing the cars screaming in the background 😴

[@danam0228]

lol

[@omarloera4244]

It will never be the same without you man!!!

[@ArcherMorningside]

What happened?

[@jimlerum]

He got arrested for not wearing his mask during commentary in the attic!

[@RobertERensch]

That was a BRAVO matchup. ✌️ The automatic transmission in the Mopar was decisive.

[@onemoremisfit]

I knew the Mopar would edge out the Camaro, but 4 on the floor wins over a column shift dogamatic in the cool factor category. And the left lane didn't like the Camaro.

[@sergeantmasson3669]

@@onemoremisfit Camaro was lighter and still lost.

[@sergeantmasson3669]

@@brettdenisegibbs6533 That matters not. First car to cross the finish line first, is the winner. What part of reaction time do you not comprehend? Camaro red light start on 2nd run which is an automatic loss.

[@sergeantmasson3669]

@@brettdenisegibbs6533 Are you a newbie to drag racing? Trap speed doesn't mean squat if the opponent crosses the finish line first.

[@brettdenisegibbs6533]

Decisive? A tenth of a second win and a slower trap speed is decisive? I'm speechless..

[@buff6637]

Mopar's are tough! Ran a 12.06 in time trial... Great Video as always ! Thank You

[@lunchsack6861]

Oh hell yeah, bonus races again

[@StrikersLG]

Still no commentary. Unfortunate but I hope all is well with you. Hopefully nothing is impairing you from commentary!

[@StrikersLG]

@@GT-43 Uh excuse me? I literally wished him well and said hopefully nothing was wrong.

[@StrikersLG]

@@GT-43 a majority of the audience voiced their opinion saying it's better so

[@mrgauges9065]

Looks like most comments are missing the commentary to me?

[@dimwitzgarage4686]

@@GT-43 I bet you’re fun at parties

[@robertseymour6095]

No shit schlock

[@rickbullock4331]

The Roadrunner and 396 Camaro were really very close. Got to hand it to the Camaro driver for his really decent shifts too.👍🇨🇦

[@454cbb]

Enjoy all the extra footage hearing the cars running in the pits. It’s nice hearing those lumpy idles and different exhaust notes. Thanks!

[@plymouthdie-castreplicas]

The A12 RR is really outstanding! Beep! Beep! Perfect video, guy.

[@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles]

I don't miss the fart sounds, but I do miss the commentary. Still a great video, thanks!

[@TJNtexas]

Commentary is 50% of the reason I watch this! I need a laugh from my job and this does it but without commentary it’s just cool cars, can find that anywhere!

[@paulcondie2520]

I bought a 68 camaro rs in 1985 off an older woman built a 327 365 hp installed a 350 turbo with stall converter and a 410 posi. Beautiful black n clean car. Paid 4500 bucks n sold for same In 1990. Damn I'm kicking myself in the ass now. Lol. It was a factory 210 hp car with power glide transmission. Live n learn they say! Lol

[@lawrencedorfman5543]

Those were the days, where have they gone. I had a 1972 cuda / torqeflught, worked on it. Times were low 12's in those days!

[@lawrencedorfman5543]

@@chadhaire1711 not stk , at all, was able to power break at 4g out of the hole, hi stall hemi convertor, gears, headers, carb, cam , etc

[@leedanner5071]

Like the bonus runs ,thanks for the post. Keep them coming. Miss the commentary but it probably takes alot of time to get that edited in. So I can get used to it this way.

[@camaro69green31]

Another great vid!! I was impressed at how that 396 got into the low 12's??? Didn't think they ran quite that fast...WOW!!

[@charlesdalton985]

Great content as always, thank you. Unbelievably close races, wheel spin in race two cost the camaro. Miss the commentary, hope you are well. Stay safe 👍

[@sergeantmasson3669]

Charles Dalton, WRONG. The Camaro red lighted during the 2nd run. Instant loss.

[@josephf593]

Okay, where are the fart, and fat jokes? The people demand them!

[@-Barracuda-426]

Maybe 12yo kids

[@jonscott7686]

What in the world happened to the commentary on these videos it was the best part!

[@danam0228]

That Buick is a beauty. Really was a great run

[@jeremyrennersleftnut905]

Here come the commentary police.

[@parodynuts5407]

Hahahaha for sure

[@parodynuts5407]

I don’t get the boomers You complain if there is a commentary and you complain if there isnt make up your mind

[@Welcometofacsistube]

Its called difference of opinion, i know you millennials have a hard time with the concept of freedom of thought.

[@paulallison6689]

Not *all* of us boomers complained/didn't enjoy the commentary! I actually miss it!😔...it's just not the same w/o it...☹

[@bw3506]

More likely hurt some sissy boi feelings than a man. Categorize yourself buddy.

[@therealhonestabe7839]

@@Welcometofacsistube I think it’s funny how your reflex is to just assume they’re a millennial. Looks like he nailed it assuming that you are a boomer. I also think it’s funny how offended your generation gets by that term...........one that has been used for decades.

[@parodynuts5407]

@@Welcometofacsistube and boomers like yourself have a hard time with thinking whatsoever. I always laugh about your generation preaching, “freedom of thought,“ yet, you believe every stupid article you see on Facebook. And I’m not part of the millennial generation, but of course that would be your uneducated guess. Pretty typical. Try not to be so sensitive next time, boomer. I won’t keep you any longer, it’s probably time for you to take your diabetes meds and change your diaper.

[@aphil4581]

First time I saw an a-12 on the street they were brand new. I could not stop staring at the big hood scoop from the back seat of my dads ford galaxy 500 convertible. When I was in HS I snagged a mint 4 year old SIXPACK Challenger.

[@JamesRS-tk6ep]

Thanks for the great videos

[@ws678ta]

Amazing how the RR driver got an ET in low 12's with stock rubber on the back. Kudos !

[@sergeantmasson3669]

Steve C, the secret to traction with bias-ply tires is overinflate them a few psi. I know because I've done it many times. 1969 Boss 302 Mustang mid 12's consistently with 4:30 Detroit Locker rear gears. I bought the car new at TASCA Ford in RI and I still have it. I'll race it again this coming weekend using drag radial tires and I expect to see low 12's easily like it did Memorial Day Weekend 2021.

[@bretthatfield2516]

Love the videos that are all about the cars!

[@jonathankountz7097]

Nice race with the A12 and the camaro... very close 👌

[@kfc1689]

Missing the commentary? How about comfort yourself with my original recipe fried chicken! It’s delicious!

[@JuanJose-cf8ps]

Hey Colonel Sanders, When are you bringing back the Cheetos Sandwich?! That sandwich was lit af

[@mrkemblegilstrap]

😂

[@sstevocamaro]

Mr. KFC in the house 😎

[@rickraimondo4769]

We all miss the commentary. What’s happening?

[@andyleibrook6012]

I was most impressed by 4000 lbs of Buick going 14.3 with what seems a stock 401.

[@jimjungle1397]

Yes, the Nailhead Buick engine was already an old design in the 1960's and usually not much of a performance engine.

[@barnabyjones6995]

@@jimjungle1397 I would like to see a 65 Buick Riviera GS with the 425 CID motor and the dual quads.

[@fd797]

Yeah and a powerglide 2 speed - I said before the run, high 15's? maybe? Impressive.

[@bigbline405]

CZ where's my toliet humor farts and inmature jokes dude great cars need great commentary

[@louiskats5116]

Goodday C & Z, Go the Mopar, that was some close racing there, .01 of a second doesn't get any closer than that. Like everyone missing your voice, you mentioned a while a go you work in the front line against the covid pandemic. Hope you are well, all your subscribers are here for you, what you are doing would be tough & challenging mentally & physical. My partners mother is in the front line here in Melbourne Victoria & as a veteran nurse it burned her out. Take time to recover, get well because we all miss your comments. Take care mate Your number 1 Fan in Australia Louis Kats from Melbourne Australia ☺ 👍 ❤

[@dwb131313]

Dude. Please start narration on these videos. You are so good at it. Seriously I hope you add to these.

[@christopherdillon7421]

Why no commentary??? Just not the same without

[@therealhonestabe7839]

Very NICE race

[@futon02]

Those were great races. The Camaro knew he lost the second race when he lost traction towards the beginning (at least I did).

[@VG-iq8xq]

Seems to happen with the 4 speed cars

[@bw3506]

Yea he definitely wasn't going to win against the a12 with any bobbles, too close for that!

[@sergeantmasson3669]

futon02, Camaro red lighted for the 2nd run. Instant loss.

[@gregblack3860]

Love them lift off hoods .

[@staufferfamily9629]

What I love about old cars is that you hear their motors

[@snotty_boi8248]

That camaro looks simply B E A U T I F U L ! ! !

[@The_Huntmaster]

Cool channel

[@danielhemple8649]

Great race

[@John1Brady]

Another great video. I am thinking the format change was to make it more family friendly?

[@aznivs8943]

Dude..... We're missing the commentary.... Hope all is well...

[@danielporter1233]

we need that narry ation dawg :)

[@mrkemblegilstrap]

Excellent racing with great cars!! Have you noticed that 1/2 the cars on youtube don't have the vacuum advance hooked up? I'm glad we ditched the toilet humor that usually accompanies your vids but i do miss your voice.

[@gary9426]

What a great race! Two of the quickest rides from the musclecar era ...I knew it would be really close...I thought with the 4 speed and the deeper breathing heads, the Camaro would just barely edge out the Mopar, but props to the Roadrunner! Much respect for both cars...miss your commentary, bro..hope all is well.

[@coupe50h]

Maybe Lighter heads. But The 6 pack probably breathes more cfm all together...

[@edwinfeldman8231]

GREAT CONTENT, LOW et's, INCREDIBLE muscle cars! But, not the same w/o your commentary. Somewhere in some alternate universe where you are doing the commentary is where I want to be with C&Z's...no matter what's going on in that abyss.

[@bruceallen6016]

Two closely matched cars made a good race. Thumb up.

[@v8sserieschevy917]

Everything you need without talking like it's fuckin network TV. Thanks videos are PERFECTLY done as is.

[@joshuacohn2004]

DUDE WTF!!!?? NO COMMENTARY????!!!! UR KILLING US DOG!!!

[@coyoteduster8919]

Those GM fans awfully quiet all of the sudden.

[@murk1352]

I hope everything is alright my friend? No voice or jokes, puns...nothing? I joked on the last one that i unsubscribed but i was playing...😁 What's going on...? I hope all is well...👍🏁

[@walterward8164]

Owned a 69 RR in 1975 belvedere body. Still the one car I wish I could have back. Dropping the hammer was always exciting. No other car I've owned made time seem to slow down.

[@SamsterOne]

I love the new format with no commentary or goofy stuff...great video. Now I will subscribe to your channel...thumbs up!!!

[@biffmalibu5384]

Nice to see you back... where's the voice... needs the narration ... awesome.

[@gypsysoul8087]

Nice video bro but I do miss the old way you did they

[@jimtohmas898]

That was a option aluminum heads well you learn something new everyday

[@maxel3229]

Yeah just isn’t right without commentary.

[@fyrbyrd71]

I'm going to make the presumption that C&Z received a strike from yewtoob and can no longer excite the willing participants with witty banter. Twas nice when we had ya, man! These are some mean machines!

[@Nato-vh4fl]

The cars are all the same as muslce car review and hemmings. Guy ordered car while in Vietnam, didn’t come back. Guy ordered car while in Vietnam still owns it,..GenX’s millenial kids wanna sell it at mecum. Bring back the commentary! Its why I subscribed!!

[@alanroberts7916]

My brother had a 69 Chevy Nova 396 with aluminum heads. We move to Arizona and our neighbor, about his age, had a Plymouth GTX 440 cu. in. that he had balanced and blue printed. Although he came out to arizona my brother never raced him. According to this it might have been a good race.

[@CarsAndZebras]

a blue printed 440 is very hard to beat, especially if the Nova was still truly stock.

[@calebrose4607]

bro, what happened to your commentary?? are you alright??? you gotta give us an explanation

[@mrgauges9065]

The commentary was playing in my head at 1st till I noticed it wasn’t? Better with the host!

[@patrickmcgrath5411]

AND THE "ROADRUNNER" SAYS TO THE "CAMARO"..."BEEP BEEP YOUR ASS"🥰

[@samcoon6699]

Wow, that RR is almost in the 11s!

[@CarefulWithThatAxeEugene]

There was no one driving that car in the Roadrunner commercial....😲

[@stuffandjunkandthings364]

A drag race just isn't a drag race without toilet humor and lowbrow jokes!

[@LICobra]

Very close great race....weight advantage vs torque

[@dantegmo]

Before even watching this, I think the RR will take it... but that 396 will be more then a handful. Edit: Both cars are quick... wow man.

[@Ls6racer]

RR tough to beat!

[@brianmaynard7320]

Dude... Some of the best racing posted yet...BUT..... WTH man? Are you ok? My wife gets pissed when I'm making my own fart noises and snickers and laughs... I'll probably be COMMITTED if you dont come back with the commentary...

[@ross560]

I think we can all agree we want the commentary back! Hope you are well!

[@beaches2mountains230]

Did the MOPAR come with the Edelbrock Intake from the factory???

[@mrkemblegilstrap]

Yes sir. Mopar part # and everything. Factory. Don't ever mess with a mopar. We don't play.

[@-Barracuda-426]

Much better now with no bullshits

[@FordMan-lf8ns]

what happened to the commentaries. I have to do it myself now. When they first stopped I was.... it's ok. But missed them . But you have included extra content. And I like the extras. So I really don't which I like better.

[@davea5150]

Love those dog dish hubcaps!!!

[@davidkeeton6716]

By the end of the video the Road Runner was 3 tenths quicker than the best Camaro pass, while 400 lbs heavier.

[@bigthunder2860]

Why not a hemi in the roadrunner beeper beep?

[@tomquinn607]

That's all about the driver. Both cars are really so close.

[@jeffschwartz5199]

We miss you man 👨

[@hanc37]

Wow, $27,000 in today's money... That's a steal for a new car.

[@williemoon7522]

the guy in the firebird had to finish his sandwich first .. HA !

[@Firebird-mp2nj]

Did i miss something what happened to the narration.

[@62cripple]

Nice run in Camaro...shifting gears....cool as shit!💪😎

[@clevlandblock]

This video works for me despite the "pure stock" misnomer. Nicely done. Vintage commercials are much appreciated. Surprising run by the old nail valve Buick (those were feisty motors).

[@85Stang331]

The Road Runner doing some more coyote dusting.

[@michaelmoon4248]

Mid-Michigan Motor plex - Stanton, MI. Yea!