197 - The Vanishing of Barbara Barkley

[@johndoeiii9767]

I've never come across a true crime channel that puts out as much QUALITY content as you do bro'. Incredible.

[@kodokanshiai2143]

100% can’t even keep up w all this info. Amazing.

[@SeaBlue1976]

True dat, greetings from Greece 🇬🇷

[@sky2urth]

Theee best

[@-VOR]

I thought so too when I first listened. But really he just copies and pastes from wikipedia and such. His research is actually pretty shallow

[@orkywheat1]

@@-VOR sounds like you have a case of jealousy. Sad.

[@jamesd.3602]

Man you have THE best true crime channel. Love every episode. Thank you for your dedication to the missing and your detail to the cases you present.

[@lindaulik5040]

You should write a book. You are a very good story teller. You bring reality to the people listening to your descriptive words. I can actually see and understand the people you are describing. It's sadly captivating.

[@jomama5186]

I lived in St. Pete from 87 to 2022, raised my 3 kids to adulthood there and always felt safe. My grandparents moved there in the early 60s. I dont remember hearing of this case, but I was very young and living in Ft. Lauderdale at that time. Very sad and awful to be missing at 19. My heart and prayers go out to her loved ones.

[@qntkka]

Hello! : - ) I lived in St. Pete from 84-86, and while it was very safe in comparison to most cities there were a few murderers out stalking women at the time, Bobby Joe Long was one of them. Rock On!

[@Evan-vy3zj]

Keep them coming!!👍

[@RebeccaGallin]

you are awesome Steven. you're almost to 200 episodes. I wonder what the episode will be about? thank you so much Steven I appreciate you and all your hard work

[@truebluewonderful1139]

I expect you can find no. 200 already on spotify and facebook. I like listening on youtube the best, so I wait.

[@RebeccaGallin]

@@truebluewonderful1139 really?? Oh man! Thank you I appreciate the info! 💙😊

[@brucebarkleyjr9760]

That's because he's making this up!!! He never spoke with us!!!

[@RebeccaGallin]

@brucebarkleyjr9760 what?? I'm confused...Steven never spoke with us??

[@Laura-tp8wz]

Good job Steven. Thanks!

[@andreasantoro6292]

The best true crime content out there. Truly, you and Danelle Hallan have become pretty much the only true crime creators I follow. The amount of time, effort, detail, logic, and respect for victims and their families that you put into your videos does not go unnoticed. Thank you for all that you do! I wasn't previously familiar with this case; thank you for bringing it and so many others to my awareness. I personally think Delano was responsible for this tragedy. My heart truly breaks for Bobbie's loved ones, who remain without answers after all these years.

[@Noneya4200]

Thanks!

[@Alcoholpad]

Definitely feel it was Winkles, how ironic he has that bright blonde hair and also the fact he had a history of attacking women who were working alone

[@tdhiatt52]

Love the pod brother and the KZbin channel

[@Knowfere]

Loving the quantity and quality of your videos!! Thank you

[@bostonsandatot4948]

The men in Bobbie's life were kinda weird, like no filter or just saying what they thought sounded light banter. The gifting the trophy was odd.

[@bear3279]

thank you for putting so much effort into your work

[@IamtheLunchlady]

The minute I heard they found the cushions in the back seat of her car then Steven mentioned the Winkles guy also had put cushions in a car for another of his victims to sexually assault her, I got chills up my spine. It certainly sounds like Winkles at this point. And the blonde hair!!

[@MultiSmartass1]

Notes: 1) Something about the details suggest that Winkles probably wasn't the perpetrator of the disappearance of Barbara . Take the car. Why take Barbara's car, drive it, reportedly get it washed and then dump it? If Winkles normally did his homework and went to lengths to prepare himself for crimes, this would directly be contradictory to his behavior and approach . If the witness who identified the car and driver at the car wash was accurate , it strikes me that if that was the un sub that this wasnt a planned action but likely a bit improvised . 2) Dan's comments strike me as a bit suspicious. He went out of his way to note that Barbara was seeing a couple of other guys. This strikes me as a little too forthcoming for a supposed fiancee to state. He also noted she had put on weight and was "fat" . This strikes me as a rather unnecessary dig at Barbara. More something a guy who was breaking with his girlfriend might say. Also he noted he wished they had found Barbara and not the car. Again I regard this as a little curious. 3) Barbara struck me as someone who didn't really want to be married and likely felt strongly enough about staying single probably to the point of putting off her wedding date and still having a dating life. If anything I think it was someone in her private life that likely had something to do with her disappearance

[@pulaski1]

There was also the complicating factor that if she had ended her engagement she would likely have lost her job too - so she had a vested interest in postponing her wedding, not cancelling it entirely.

[@MultiSmartass1]

@@pulaski1 Good point. The impression I get was that Barbara might have still been with this guy to retain the job. It seemed like a largely do-nothing job for her. After all if she were bringing a tv to the store to watch and sun bathing at times, it's clear this wasnt a busy store.

[@pulaski1]

@@MultiSmartass1 Also, "smoking like a chimney" apparently!

[@astragiuspentagona4805]

Winkles was a planner, but he wasn't any kind of master planner by any means. Burying the bodies, unburying them, moving them, cutting off the head, retrieving his bullets from a skull, pulling out the teeth while leaving fingerprints intact, abducting a woman in a junk car with a faulty battery, moving forward when the wrong girl shows up, etc. This guy didn't have it all together, seems like kind of a clumsy guy the way he hid behind an umbrella while shooting that girl in the head. It's like he just sat around replaying his mistakes in his head and worrying about getting caught after calming down instead of doing it all right the same shot.

[@MultiSmartass1]

@@astragiuspentagona4805 My point wasnt that Winkles was methodical and exacting but that his MO doesn't really fit here.

[@cadillacdeville5828]

Such great narration

[@Joanla1954]

So sad to not have answers for Barbara's family! Perhaps one day they will come. Another great video Stephen! You're almost to episode 200! Keep up the good work!

[@laurieclarkson9180]

I don't think it's a coincidence that a serial killer was operating in the same area, scooping up women around her age while they were working and putting cushions in the backseat of cars. It likely WAS that serial killer. I DO think the relationship with her fiance was suspicious too though. IMO he's too old for her, the wedding was being put off "to figure out what they wanted to do with their lives" which is odd, the night at Pizza Hut was "the best time they had, had in a long time", and the weight comments can be a red flag too. Negative comments about a person in a tragic situation can indicate an anger/disdain toward the person. Weight gain can also mean pregnancy. (although she continued chain smoking). Weight gain can also mean lack of intimacy in a relationship. However, based on the terry cloth suit she wore (I'm pretty positive I know what kind of outfit it was) it's a pretty skimpy outfit so it doesn't sound like she was too depressed about it. It's also odd that he comments about her going out with other men and this doesn't seem to bother him at all. Then the family biz closes up. hmm..suspicious, but the serial killer is certainly something to wonder about. Especially if he's claiming 26 victims. What a shame. At this point, I wonder if her mom has ever been open to psychics helping. The only one I'd ask would be Reverend Donna Seraphina.

[@I.pray.to.George.Carlin]

There is no such thing as coincidences....

[@cosmicshy637]

Your voice is awesome for narrating. Great work overall. Thank you! 🙏💜

[@lenek1525]

And we thought we are screwed now. Just imagine coming up missing back then. Those poor girls had no chance at all.

[@derekquintal]

I lived in that area back in 1981, there was a ton of this type of stuff going on, total creeps everywhere, I was only a kid but remember .

[@Tificial.teligent]

It's weird nobody saw her leave the establishment. Either with the perp or on her own. If she was kidnapped by the guy from the carwash, nobody seen them leave the shop together?? Or was she hidden in a furniture taken from shop, then loaded into her vehicle or a vehicle. A piece of furniture with pillows?

[@no_peace]

Please carry pepper spray It's one of the great accessible tools we have now at a low price, that you can use even if you have doubts. That's the best part, you can spray people on accident and it doesn't ruin lives

[@no_peace]

Or i should say, you can be wrong about how dangerous someone is, spray them, and you won't go to jail or have nightmares for the rest of your life

[@howdareyouexist]

@@no_peace it can ruin lives

[@hottotty13]

Earlier in the video I didn’t know what whitish blond hair meant, until I saw James Winkle. It was definitely him.

[@tommybutler2454]

If he kept under garments, have they all been tested? They should still have them in evidence? I hope they will find answers someday. As more land is developed and he seemed to have certain comfort zones, they should drag and dive that river and triangulate or use the circles for a couple miles of each of the houses he used to take the women or ever loved? Did he have confidants in prison or family or friends thru life that may know places he frequented? I wonder. So sorry for her family and loved ones.

[@elizabethm6657]

I want a $1 every time you say "end quote."🤣

[@RebeccaGallin]

I don't know if you've ever considered doing it an episode on the Boca Town center mall murders? it's very disturbing and hasn't yet been solved. me and my son went there a lot we so close. so thankful that we didn't get hurt but so terribly sad for the ones that did. just a suggestion

[@Hondo0101]

when was this?

[@RebeccaGallin]

@@Hondo0101 it was early 2000s. It was horrible. Some he killed some he didn't. There waa a dateline on it as well.

[@marionpeebles3836]

The color picture looks identical to my high school best friend. Maybe just the time since we were all 19 at the same time.

[@PhantomStella]

Oh damn Pinellas Park I did a double take because I grew up there

[@jeanberard2078]

Scary fact that someone always watching!

[@tommybutler2454]

Where is the car? Can they go back thru it? The under carriage may have old plant life or dirt from where it had been? Even if the car had been washed, the under carriage may still hold evidence for a forensic botanist to go over?

[@ShanePodClips]

RIP to you Bobby ❤️ she was sooooo pretty 🥺 as I listen to these I'm so glad that we have more security cameras everywhere now. 🙏 All businesses and parks should have them for safety of their employees as well as procucts

[@samdoors5132]

The cigarettes would have eventually killed her a slow death emphysema bronchitis cancer and all the other good things that come with it

[@ShanePodClips]

@@samdoors5132 damn Sam that's tough 🥺 if she knew in 1980s what we know in 2022 hopefully she wouldn't have smoked. They were advertised sooo heavily back then its sad. 🥺

[@BB-bx4dp]

Would you not care as much if she wasn't pretty?

[@ShanePodClips]

@@BB-bx4dp I would still care. It's okay to give a compliment still in this world. Jesus Christ you're THAT person aren't you. You're the reason why the world has to be such a drag. Get out of here bro.

[@jendom0112]

Another theory…the guy who made that sketch and proclaimed he came into contact with someone trying to wash her car… 🤔 Butttt-I think winkles did it. She was his type and had the perfect employment radius. And THOSE CUSHIONS!!! I think he killed so many he forgot details as he grew older and sicker.

[@Somegirl811]

Wish they would have shown the witness photos of Winkles...

[@marklittler784]

Yeah you've got to bear in mind criminals might have started taking their crimes one or two steps further than usual or usually do.

[@Milianlam]

This was my grandmas best friend in highschool she said that she never met barbaras supposed fiance and indeed went to school with barbara i told my grandma i think its hwr fiance the fact he didnt want his name mentioned and wasnt really giving much information is qeird and she didnt hesitate to leave no struggle was shown so it means somone close to her did it

[@mrsbird2952]

My thought is it has to be Winkles…that is if the eyewitness was right about the hair color. If you take the population of Pinellas park in 1980, the population of men that lived there , the age range, and the fact that only aprox 2-5% of the population in the USA is naturally blonde it narrows down the possible abductors quick… but you would have to assume that the eyewitness was right about the what the suspect looks like and assume that the person last seen with the car was the abductor. The MO is so similar to his all the way down to the pillows in the back of the car. The store is in the areas he would hunt and take his victims. This makes Winkles the killer in my opinion.

[@marklittler784]

Well thank God for cheap modern CCTV so that not so many people end up suffering at the hands of one person or victims families suffering for decades, we've even got dogs that can sniff out mobile phones.

[@tessaducek5601]

Science and dedication.

[@danhoey5885]

Better stuff then ID TV

[@danhoey5885]

Florida was a hot spot in the 1980s California to

[@ThatOddChickenHippie]

I like to think that leg injury was Bobbie's doing; that she at least got a good cut in before he got her

[@donna1493]

Very sad for everyone involved

[@kultofbunny]

Going with the Boyfriend on this one... The Winkles guy seems like a possibilty but still thinking the boyfriend.... The police should have looked into him alot more...

[@moonchildluvsbobcrane]

🕯 Barbara aka Bobbi

[@mikem9396]

The only thing I can take is the narrator’s 400 “End Quote” an episode.

[@brucebarkleyjr9760]

This is my sister Barbara "Bobbie" Barkley He's making this up!!! He never spoke with us!!!

[@mr.mclibtard5015]

Yeah sure 🙄

[@1972dsrai]

Winkles does sound like the culprit, but without clear evidence tying him we'll never probably know who did it.

[@sunflowerz54]

It’s a shame he didn’t tell police about the calculator and pen. Fingerprints? But no one saw anyone go in the front door or getting into her parked car?

[@justthinkin1710]

Please do one on Charlotte Loomis. Thank you

[@billesommer4636]

Someone had kept eyes on her and kidnapped. Usually sold into slavery or sacrificed! Could be a neighbor or some...known to her!😎👍

[@melissasaint3283]

TRIGGER WARNING this is a disappearance, but about 60% of the way through, it contains details of other crimes that were committed by a suspect at the time. They are uncharacteristically ghastly for this podcast.

[@howdareyouexist]

ok boomer

[@melissasaint3283]

@@howdareyouexist ...is this 2019? Are you wearing tie-dyed sweat pants right now?🤔

[@kultofbunny]

Its a true crime podcast.... He gave a warning which he really didnt have to do and you still complain.... maybe try knitting podcasts

[@melissasaint3283]

@@kultofbunny I'm not complaining. I am putting a warning there, since he typically doesn't include such graphic detail.

[@thebeasters]

@@melissasaint3283 yeah... If it's available he does

[@ThugShakers4Christ]

Billy was definitely tapping that

[@Rex-rg3ce]

Ahh getting abducted from a furniture store in broad daylight. Only in MERCA!!🇺🇸

[@Rex-rg3ce]

@@thesacredmountain3448 Yes ofcourse it happens..in the devloping world where there's a lot of poverty and cartels and stuff. But not in the first world. I've lived in europe for 6-7 years and this type of stranger abductions/home invasions are pretty rare.

[@howdareyouexist]

@@Rex-rg3ce wrong

[@kisserofdogs3218]

While I very much appreciate the details you give in these cases, it's a little hard for me to listen to the details 3-4 times. Of course, this is just my opinion. It won't make me stop listening. I can just listen to the first one or two times. 😜

[@slinginlead6647]

👍👍

[@MetaModern-df6he]

We need more modern cases!

[@almostadorno]

However

[@Col91016]

Classic serial killer

[@skelter1153]

This channel was WAY better in it's first three years. The stories were vastly more interesting and actually scary at times. NOW, it seems he just finds moderately covered cases and PHONES them in. I don't know if it's because he doesn't have as much time anymore, or if he just doesn't want to really be doing this, either way it shows, and it takes FOREVER for a new upload when back in the day, it was EVERY month like clockwork sometimes two in a Month. Riveting, spooky and worth every minute listening. Nowadays, I find myself speeding up the video because they tend to LAG and get mundane. I understand what becoming disillusioned is like. I get that interests change as life changes and time seems to wane. I just hope he's not doing it for the numbers now, when in the early days it was clear he was passionate about this. I'm no "Troll", I've been here since day one, and loyal I will remain, hoping a bit of the old fire comes back again.. because as it stands now, this channel STINKS. That's just my two cents even if worth only that. God Bless.

[@thebeasters]

There's only so many scary dark deeply interesting cases in the country

[@BB-bx4dp]

You don't have to listen if you don't like it. Just saying.

[@MatildaAllen800]

great story, impossible to listen to, why are you shouting that loud?

[@BB-bx4dp]

Try turning down the volume

[@jerrymarbury9365]

Yeah people used to smoke cigs while they worked or relaxed now they smoke weed don't work and relax constantly that's a real improvement isn't it.

[@patricktschirhart3748]

Wow audio is bad dude !

[@GJYYC]

No....? Totally normal

[@tdhiatt52]

Fine on my side blood

[@katking6820]

Good hear :)

[@marklittler784]

Seems ok at the beginning so far ?

[@ShanePodClips]

It sounds good on my end hmmm that's weird!!

[@samdoors5132]

Eventually those Cigarettes would have got her especially if she was a chain smoker. Smoking is such a bad habit and the really bad thing is it’s all for nothing you don’t even get high it’s like breathing in pollution all day or sucking on a tail pipe of a car

[@waypay1]

That's all you got out of this video? 🤦‍♀️

[@natashameyers249]

Seriously?

[@lc6636]

It would have taken another 50 years. The new smoking is fat and kills at the same rate. Every other person in the US is obese.