1970 Plymouth HEMI Cuda vs 1969 Chevrolet Chevelle Super Sport | STOCK DRAG RACE

[@CarefulWithThatAxeEugene]

Miss the old classics. It's nice that we can still watch these beauties drag it out on the drag strip. Real factory power, not computers. Thanks for another great video Cars and Zebras!!

[@stevepick9527]

Totally agree…Miss the old days.

[@CarefulWithThatAxeEugene]

@@stevepick9527 everything was better back in the day. (60's, 70's and 80's) Especially the music and cars.

[@josephsellers3844]

Man oh man. 2 of the top of the heap muscle cars. Both so very rare. I was born in the 50's so I caught the day. Didn't get license till.74 but got to drive & owned a 68 Chevelle 396 w4 speed. Too heavy & sloppy compared to new cars but I really miss those days. So many great stories. I too am glad see people racing these cars full out!

[@CarefulWithThatAxeEugene]

@@josephsellers3844 back then they didn't need computers to run the hell out of em. And those old cars proved what they were: pure muscle! 💪Especially before '72.

[@josephsellers3844]

I not sure that correct man. Did you ZL1? They only made 69 all aluminium 427's. Now I can't tell if you just mean strictly a Copo option? Cause brother I know that you are incorrect about the ZL1. I think everyone knows they only put that all aluminium 427 in 69 cars.

[@johnnyboyssite]

That 396 running 11s at 117 with stock exh manifolds and those bias ply tires is truley amazing probably lots of work on those heads .

[@christopherwelsh1785]

Yeah imagine slicks and tubular headers your looking high 10's good lord that's moving

[@edwinfeldman8231]

ZL1 clone in FAST series running 9's in same configuration. Engine dyno'd 900 and some odd number HP in off-season testing.

[@johnnyboyssite]

@@edwinfeldman8231 if your speaking of the Orange 69 Camaro , thats an all Alum 560 cu inch BBC

[@edwinfeldman8231]

@@johnnyboyssite LEGALLY running 9's through stock exhaust manifolds/2.5" full length pipes, 3" aircleaner and original size bias ply tires as a ZL1 clone. Yep, same car.

[@johnnyboyssite]

@@edwinfeldman8231 indeed the owner did let out some of his secrets but did admit he's still giving up atleast 100 hp through those manifolds !

[@josephmcintyre752]

The Elephant has been SLAYED. SLIDE ON CHEVY

[@charlesdalton985]

Wow, wow, wow! The numbers these guys were putting up. You can tell both were spec’d for speed - low options, automatic trans, etc. Thank you as always - that was some racing.

[@chrisvig123]

They’re modified for stock class…the originals were mid 13 second cars at best

[@JamesRS-tk6ep]

Wow, what a great set of races. So closely matched that it was definitely a drivers race. Thanks for the excellent video cars and zebras.

[@1951RKP]

I had a friend who had same L89 396/375 with aluminum intake with a Holley and solid lifter cam in a SS El Camino. I’m not shock at all it ran faster than the Hemi Cuda. Actually the Hemi Cuda in this video runs much better than the ones we raced against back in 1969.

[@danmyers9372]

Kudos to both drivers. I fully expected the 396 Chevelle to jump out on the Hemi with the Hemi catching and outrunning the 396 on the top end. Surprised to see the 396 running right with the Hemi on the top end. The owner of the 396 really knows how to tune that sucker!

[@charlessmith3758]

I'll bet those exhaust manifolds are all punched out.

[@rodzimmerman1979]

Hemi out weighed the Bow Tie by a significant margin. Weight kills ET.

[@ogg-men]

That L89 396 was underrated in hp.,...more like 400+.

[@scottwheaton9689]

@@ogg-mena stock built but blueprinted iron head l78 396/375hp engine actually dyno’s at approx 425hp @ 6k+ rpm. But the hemi also put out closed to 500hp in blueprinted stock build form so the smaller 496 Fid very well wining 3 of 3 very close races. And in the last/3rd race you could see a lot of blue smoke billowing out of both cars after they let off the gas at then of the race. A stock built early hi comp mopar 340/275hp engine dynos at approx 330hp+. Thats why the lighter by 200-250 lbs mopars with true 330hp+ 340’s could keep up with & or beat slight Lu heavier chevy’s running 350hp 396’s. It comes down to simple power to weight ration along tube & driving skill of car owners too. Those dyno #’s are on an engine dyno with no accessories on the motor running headers.

[@jamescalvin902]

1969 - 1970. All nine Supreme Court Justices could define man, woman, boy, girl. The EPA hadn't yet wrecked a golden era. Good times.

[@sheikhu1039]

What EPA?

[@ottoandhanzblack2175]

Trying to equate politics into drag racing is an incredibly bad idea.

[@sean8081a]

Would be cool to hear the idle sounds.

[@gary9426]

Can't get much more even than this! One of the best races in awhile..2 of the quickest from the musclecar era. Thanks C&Z!

[@spartynation7021]

Very closely matched indeed.

[@XBobbyVegasX]

Saw title, thought slight mismatch. I have a little grin on my face after that 2nd and last round, both sent it!! Chevy boy here but love all real muscle.

[@plymouthdie-castreplicas]

Very close drag race. The drag times are incredible! Thumbs up!

[@danmyers9372]

Yeah, the 1969 L89 was rare because for an extra $213 over the L89 396 you could get the new for 1969 425 HP L72 427 under COPO.

[@bruceallen6016]

This race was a nail biter. Very close. Thumb up for bringing these to us old street racers. 😊

[@DDSxSKILLKILL]

The fact a proper optioned 396 chevelle can keep up with a hemi cuda is impressive to me. I wonder how a COPO L72 427 chevelle would do against that beast.

[@jts9120]

@@bloodybones63 Not a race Hemi

[@andrewp1998]

@@bloodybones63 doubtful.. properly tuned hemi should win most of the time

[@jameskester7745]

@@andrewp1998 I don't know about that, the 427 held a lot of records in its day, it was a pretty stout motor, what made the hemi so good is when you put a blower on it, it was definitely the best for packing air into

[@billnyilas8]

Two of the hottest cars in their day. Great races!

[@edwinfeldman8231]

WOW! 11sec ET's in pure stock. Great racing here. By the numbers the Cuda should have run circles around the Chevy. Both drivers trying to cut a light for an advantage. Anyone else noticed the excessive smoke behind the chevelle after that last pass?

[@bruceselenka7181]

I saw smoke from the Chevelle after round two. to my eyes, both were puffin' after round three.

[@stevepick9527]

Yeah, I noticed the same thing, lots of bluish smoke…😬

[@matthewvarnam4302]

@@bruceselenka7181 Might be the way they tuned them maybe

[@randyrobey5643]

Normally, a 396 Chevelle would have been a relatively safe opponent for a Hemi Cuda, but the L89 396 was one of Chevrolet's best motors ever. It has been established that the real horsepower rating of the solid-lifter 396 was closer to its rating in the Corvette, (425 BHP,) than its 375 BHP rating in a Chevelle. With those aluminum heads, any opposing street car had its hands full in a race. Thankfully for the competition, L89 cars were scarce as chicken lips.

[@LITTLE1994]

Another clash of powerful old cars.

[@jayschmahl9206]

I'll take the 'Cuda. Still the coolest car ever in my opinion.

[@ternsjohn4810]

What is even more rare about that Chevelle is it's 300 deluxe base model! 69 was the ONLY year Chevelle offered the 396 in a base model car. Which is why it's a perfect factory stock dragster.

[@archiebunker6059]

Excellent cars, both dipping well into the 11's.💪

[@TheGunfighter45acp]

Man, those cars ran fast!

[@josephmartinez8803]

The Rat versus the Elephant!

[@hillybillysillysally5086]

Damn that 396 gave that 426 a run for its money. That was some good racing

[@leedanner5071]

Thanks C&Z

[@chrisleggett685]

The Chevelle 300 2 door sedan is rare. I had one with a 6 cyl and 3 on the tree 30 years ago.

[@srt8rocketship241]

I would be happy with either. The 'Cuda does look tough though. Had a 73 with 340 pistol grip and 390 axle. Miss that one.

[@brandaneakright6082]

Really close matchup honestly, but both are cool cars

[@racerx7319]

THAT 396 WAS HANGING TOUGH . GO UP AGAINST A HEMI . NICE RACE

[@gearyheidinewaccount3237]

Hanging tough? The 396 killed it and won

[@chuckgross6024]

What a race, too bad for the red lights. But man what a good combo to race!

[@gearyheidinewaccount3237]

There were no red lights

[@anthonynelson9136]

Ok, now we need a 70 Hemi Cuda versus a 70 LS6 Chevelle. Both with a 4sp and 4.10 gears.

[@josephmcintyre752]

good idea. Run em

[@sporty196071]

Great match, I very rare cars. Great to see them doing what they were for !!!!

[@bbkingwasthegreatest711]

My only complaint your last vid was three weeks ago, oh how I miss these great vids, please post more.

[@agoraphobicadam1171]

Those 4;88 gears seems to make a big difference.

[@tercelken]

@ 0:36 "That fine looking rear end" 👍🏽👌

[@daltonmann4916]

man both these cars would fly!

[@mynameis9057]

Absolutely a huge thanks to the owners for racing those treasures! That's what they were built for and kudos to them instead of babying them like fine china!!!!

[@danhillman4523]

PCV issue with the Chevelle. I had the same issue with my Z28. Freaked me out the first time it happened.

[@benkrom2737]

That's some close racing. Notice all the oil at cool down area, looks like both cars are missing exhaust valve oil seals. Back in the day I only put them on intake valves also 😁

[@easygoing2479]

They may be pulling oil past loose (on purpose) pistons and rings

[@johnwick-ii6il]

666 Hemi Cuda's produced, and only 1,400 still remain.

[@reckemroysrc3764]

Got one of each of these cars in the driveway. 🤗

[@edwinfeldman8231]

In what scale?

[@reckemroysrc3764]

@@edwinfeldman8231 full scale. 383 cuda. 69 CHEVELLE

[@goneshootin61]

Great race !

[@abckirov1929]

0:16 Love that lil red express in the background.

[@fuhrstpuhl3278]

L89 396 was rated at 375 hp but in all reality it was probably closer to 425......and aluminum heads lightened things up a bit.......great set of races here the Chevelle really ripped one off in that last round running down the Hemi .

[@68dart]

Awesome , Close Race , Thanks C&Z

[@wdfaws8124]

Great racing!

[@MitchZero9]

I don't know if its the headphones im wearing but these two together at WOT sound nothing less than "fucking siiiick"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@tommycook9620]

CHEVY for the WIN

[@danchristopher7957]

Wow....11.7's out of a little 396.

[@VG-iq8xq]

Man one thing I’ve learned from watching these cars and especially the FAST series is that not only can you live without headers you can absolutely rip! These times are so darn impressive! I wonder what rpm the Chevelle is turning at top end with those 488’s!

[@badgerbait8351]

Looking at 2:03 on the vid, it looks like the Chevelle's redline on the tach is set at about 6700 rpm.

[@donwalters8877]

I still remember my Mopar, after the race, that smell of rubber and that Mopar breathing like a half fucked pit bull

[@richellen6855]

Another great match. A real joy to watch!

[@archieguitarz4700]

Great race but 4:10s vs 4:88s in the Chevelle, gives the Chevy a major advantage. Put 4:10s in both and see the Hemi live up to it's legend.

[@brianmaynard7320]

Great to see these 2 cars going head-to-head. Do you think the weight differences made the 1/4 times close? Great races and damn fine looking cars! Thank you C&Z

[@matthewvarnam4302]

I don't think 55lbs would have made the Chevelle that much faster the engine had to have made a little bit more HP than 375HP to be that close of a race. If you think about it the Cuda made 425HP and only 55lbs more than the Chevelle so the Chevelle had to make a little more HP.....I don't know maybe I'm wrong but I think the Chevelle made just a few more HP and with the weight difference made it go.

[@jameskester7745]

@@matthewvarnam4302 it definitely was putting out more power, it was the exact same motor (with iron heads) in the 425hp corvette. They just didn't want people to know they could buy a corvette motor in a Malibu for some reason, but the motors where identical. With aluminum heads, and the other goodies, ya probably closer to 500hp or more

[@bman99ss]

It was the gearing that made the races close.

[@randallgreen6746]

Both cars are beautiful

[@nwnwsales4729]

I believe only 400 L89 Chevelles produced and 12 service replacement engines. I know where 2 of these cars are today! Both hdtps.

[@dragginwagon406]

Very cool video, and great races.

[@63MacGuy]

What a great match up.

[@user-iv5gy3rc2b]

You can't do much better than those two cars. So fast! Too bad they red-lighted 2/3 of the races. Was so into these I didn't notice the lack of jokes and funny noises. (But I do like the jokes).

[@tommycook9620]

HELL yea

[@timmotel5804]

WoW Again! 2 Great and Rare Cars. For a change, I'd love to own the Chevelle. Thanks

[@mrkemblegilstrap]

great cars. great racing. I'm mopar, but when you said "4.88s", I got goosebumps.

[@antilaw9911]

Put 4.88 in the Cuda and add 150lbs weight to back floor of chevelle and do the race again 😮

[@jimmywilkinson9190]

See all the smoke down the track on the 3rd run!

[@charlesvan13]

The only problem with the 396 is that it's not a 427.

[@sharitcuello5026]

Vaya un Chevelle SS 396 del 69 vaya VS Dodge Plymouth barracuda 440 del 70 Bro buen video bro

[@dukedavis8950]

Wow both these car's were getting down the track in a hurry quite impressive. Love it thanks for the video I do miss your funny comitory

[@louiskats5116]

Goodday C & Z, Battle of the Gods, Clash of the Titans Mate that was super racing, mid 11's, Big Blocks & rare by all measures. The biggest dis service Ma Mopar ever did was never to offer as an option of aluminum heads on the Hemi. Back in 1965 the Hemi was fitted with Aluminum Heads so the casting were available. Imagine if the Hemi could be had with aluminum heads. Love the sound both very angry motors. Hope you are well. Your number 1 Fan in Australia Louis Kats from Melbourne Australia ☺ 👍 ❤

[@bw3506]

That's one healthy small rat right there. You can tell when it's a close match it makes for some red lights. LMAO. Thanks for the vid! 👍

[@maliburallye350]

Excellent Match!!!

[@sheikhu1039]

"Chicks dig giant robots"

[@will7its]

Wow, both cars putting out blue smoke at the shutdown. Might be revving a little to much trying to win here.

[@jefferycoleman3781]

I ran 12:33 @117mph in an 81 camaro. It had a 383 stroker, and a super t10 with 3.42 posi. I could never launch that thing good, and I had really good potenza 275/40/17 in the back. How are these guys running that time with heavy cars and shit tires?!

[@saltydog4759]

Two back in the day boulevard titans

[@steves9905]

Dang them are fast. Hope the chevelle is ok…lots of smoke after liftoff in the 3rd

[@ledgend_coffee]

Not many cars can catch a hemi cuda by half a car length and beat it

[@danlee-andel955]

I love it, that is a good race!

[@1967davethewave]

Those are some beautiful cars.

[@johnwilkerson2195]

Good race nice cars but I rooting for the Cuda being a Mopar man myself as far as Chevelles I like the 71'or 72'

[@jonathankountz7097]

The races are very close... good numbers from both cars.. the Chevy was smoking after the last one, hopefully nothing serious

[@CJColvin]

You should do a video of some Canadian Muscle Cars 🇨🇦 as well brother.

[@the.mr.nobody]

The way God intended it.

[@kevinmcduffie1092]

Find a '70 cuda 440supercommando 4speed with a 3:73 rear and race !!

[@jameswilson3554]

I'm a Chevy man but the cuda is my dream car. Excellent video C Z thank you for posting this..2thumbs up.

[@markwatkins6882]

Looks like both motors might be hurt...

[@nealstampley1546]

Awesome, these are rockets

[@gregkistner1955]

Super fast! Nice!

[@goldysgarage189]

Both cars are heavily massaged

[@lusey1445]

Would he for trade for super bee?

[@CamaroZ-cr9bo]

It looks like they either both just blew their head gaskets or fried their piston rings!!....

[@rickuyeda4818]

These are actually F.A.S.T. cars. Factory Appearing Stock Tires. Motors are highly modified but appear stock. Back in the day, those were 13 second cars.

[@CarsAndZebras]

No they aren’t. They race in factory stock/pure stock.

[@1563smb]

Very awesome 😎

[@Pdank419]

Good stuff!!

[@DK-455]

Neither vehicle is stock. They'd run in the 13's if they were.

[@CarsAndZebras]

Still haven't figured out how to read the video description box, I see.

[@rodolson5827]

That Chevelle runs like a ZL1

[@kevinrice4909]

Mopar cuda done better..hats off to the stovebolt 8

[@granddad-mv5ef]

following comment NOT a slam - this is good racing. I didn't need to read the rules, these cars LOOK like pure stock. Mechanically, more like NHRA Super Stock.

[@CarsAndZebras]

Definitely not Super Stock, as they have to use factory intake manifolds and original camshaft specs. This class follows the stock rules the NHRA used in the 60s/early 70s.

[@granddad-mv5ef]

@@CarsAndZebras Yep, you are correct.

[@AlanRoehrich9651]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Not even close to NHRA Stock Eliminator. A 396/375 Chevelle in NHRA Stock Eliminator in A/SA will run 9.90 at 130+. In Super Stock it would be SS/EA, 9.20 at 142+. My Super Stock 396/375 makes 790HP+, 580 ft/lb of torque, and runs up to 9200 RPM. These cars are not even close to either class. A decent G/SA small block Chevy car will beat them handily.

[@danielhemple8649]

I guess the driver weighs 45 lb

[@Barefoot-Bob]

imagine a copo 427 chevelle

[@bradhardy2629]

Imagine a 68 Hurst hemi Dart . Seee yaa. To any GM or Ford for that matter