1971 Pontiac GTO vs 1971 Buick GS455 - PURE STOCK DRAG RACE

[@CarsAndZebras]

Two of my favorite muscle cars... comfortable and quick! I do have to say I'm not sure if this Buick is a true Stage 1, but it is reported to be built to Stage 1 specs (345 horsepower). Thanks!

[@MrBluzhound]

I thought the Buick would win a 1/4 mile based on the 3.73’s vs the 3.31’s.

[@CarsAndZebras]

Not to mention it's a little big lighter and has better low end torque. Thanks for watching!

[@wildcat6669]

Stage 1 specs were underrated, actually around 400hp for '70 375hp for '71

[@mrh3085]

MrBluzhound most likely would’ve been door handle to door handle with the same rear ends. (3.73’s)

[@ericharrison619]

Throw in a Olds W-30 for the perfect trio.

[@79monte]

Im not complaining but it's better when you post the time rather than enlarge the time boards still hard to see!

[@madmaxxxthen30-rwofficialm23]

I swear cars from that time that came stock had nicer interiors than modern ones sigh

[@KetchLambier]

No way. Today's cars are nicer, designed better, safer, faster and with much better build quality. We love old cars for the nostalgia and memories.

[@dreamingcode]

That Buick wasn't called the Hemi killer for nothing

[@bruceshepherd4655]

The Buick GSX was the one to beat.

[@ashqelon7267]

12’s with a 8.5:1 compression ratio engine.

[@deadhead7930]

That buick is bad ass.

[@jaylamb9546]

Buick Stage I 455 , awesome car .

[@scarface9617]

this here is what true American drag racing is all about! 🇺🇸😎(🔧🧤)

[@CarsAndZebras]

😎

[@nolanhite9806]

I love all the GM A-body cars from '68-'72.

[@jayelbee1111]

I rank the GM A-Car in order: 1) Buick Syklark GSX Stage 1 455 2) Chevrolet Chevelle SS 454 3) Oldsmobile Cutlass 4-4-2 W30 455 4) Pontiac Tempest GTO 455

[@johnjenkins6547]

Back in the early 70's I had one of the infamous 1970 Buick GSX stage 1. Mine was the Saturn yellow with the flat black hood and Tach on the hood. It was a true muscle car that kicked some serious butt. I even blew the doors off a few Hemi's. The GSX was known for it's nickname of Hemi killer. I wish I still had that car to this very day.

[@bman99ss]

I encountered one just like yours on the freeway here in L.A. back in the eighties. I pulled up next to him in my 383 Roadrunner. He wouldn't even look over at me. I guess he felt like his Stage 1 GSX outclassed my run-of-the-mill 383 Roadrunner . . .

[@jeffnorbert1871]

Buick acronym, best use is Corvette Killing. B U I C K.

[@AlejandroP1980s]

john jenkins hey what about a 1970 mustang boss 429 can the boss take out the king or not also a 1970 Shelby gt500 or a 1971 boss 351

[@camclarke9952]

@@AlejandroP1980s gsx beat the scj eliminator that's a fact,so I'd say yes it would win..

[@harveyschindler9554]

Don’t we all?

[@stevecrist4902]

Both cars ran in the 12's each time. That's impressive for low compression models.

[@cdglasser]

The Buick sure does not appear to be a Stage 1. The Stage 1 had Stage 1 fender badges (not 455), and also had a Stage 1 decal on the air cleaner lid, plus chrome valve covers.

[@jasperlit1345]

Yep not stage one.. imagine if it was LOL

[@CarsAndZebras]

You are correct, read the pinned comment that was posted a few weeks ago. Unclear if it's a Stage 1, but engine built to Stage 1 specs

[@lilythomson881]

@@CarsAndZebras Are you sure that it was built to Stage 1 specs? I mean is there actual evidence and or proof of that because it seems to me if it was built to stage 1 specs that Pontiac would have been toast. The Buick engine is a vastly superior much newer design. I mean that Pontiac's engine's roots go back to 1955 and that Buick's engine's roots go back to only 1967. In 1971 it was still only a 4 year old design! Yes, it has it's predecessor's bore centers but that's all. So we are talking about a 12 years newer design and that was a very big 12 years at that. There were a lot of advances in engine design made during those 12 years. If you don't believe me, compare the "new" 1956 AMC V8 against it's 1966 replacement. The Buick big block is so good that it is 1 of the only 2 GM engines that routinely end up facing the Hemis in the final rounds of these types of events.

[@CarsAndZebras]

@@lilythomson881 - That's what the owner reported. You have to remember, these cars aren't truly stock. The Pontiac started life as an HO (so already very capable) and then "Pure Stock" allows you to increase compression by 1.5 points... which the Pontiac owner has done. Think about it, the Pontiac only came with around 8.5:1 compression and made some pretty crazy power. You increase that 1.5 points and it's a monster. Also remember, they have to run factory appearing tires. In the Buick's case, you have a ton of low end torque, but it's hard to put that down on skinny tires.

[@LR-my2di]

@@CarsAndZebras All very true.

[@briansd2772]

"Wouldn't you really rather have a Buick?"

[@mikedrown2721]

Yes!!!

[@sharonw2475]

Hell yeah, every time, anytime, and every way over a Goat.

[@derrickodyes1934]

No ill take the goat any day

[@yohann4510]

Good job bro i new you could do it!!! 71 vs 71 455 vs 455

[@455Olds88]

Those two sound so perfect ran next to one another! That was muscle car harmony😊

[@bobwhammer4237]

Love 64' - 67' GTO's. 1971 not so much; Buick (the gentlemans muscle car) was better looking for 71'

[@CarsAndZebras]

I think I favor the looks of the Buick just a little more in '71 as well. I do have a recent video posted of a '65 GTO Royal Bobcat, so you might enjoy that!

[@rivirme]

Test drove a used 67 GTO with Automatic. I was 19 years old and they wanted about $1300 as I recall. I punched it in first gear and when it shifted, started rolling off two black patches for a long while, stayed perfectly straight. It was the most exciting car i had driven at the time.

[@jeremythompson9122]

Never liked the looks of the 70-72 GTO. Always thought the Buick's and Oldsmobile's were the best looking of the 1970-72 GM A-Bodies

[@AJKlos]

My dad restored 2 67 gto’s for a guy back when I was around 9 years old. My mom took my sister and I for a ride and smoked the tires through 3rd gear! I fell in love with those cars from then on

[@patrickmcwilliams9030]

Yes the Buick a beautiful car a lot like the 442 in looks

[@hernandocortez6351]

I'm pretty sure that 13.38 Motor Trend number for the Stage 1 was the 1970 car, but still a great matchup!

[@LR-my2di]

True ... neither of these cars ran 13's in 1971. No musclecar did in 1971. Smogging musclecars beginning in 1971 really hurt them.

[@hikethisplanet1017]

I owned a 1971 GTO Judge. Greatest muscle car ever built. I was young and dumb and sold it only owning it for a couple of short years. My biggest mistake I have ever made.

[@matthewchandler7845]

Geeked out a bit over these cars...just fantastic lines, simple, clean but bold, they look like they can still handle todays roads in comfort and style. Thanks for this video!!

[@CarsAndZebras]

Very true, these cars are still great to drive every day... that's not something you can say about all muscle cars!

[@pmb5643]

I had a rare 73 Buick Century with bench seat, and special order 455. Not as fast as these, but very rare w/455 emblem in grill. Love all of these.

[@gt-37guy6]

Sweet..I found a 74 GS 455 a few years ago, all rebuilt.....it is a strong runner....built to high compression specs , cam and headers...not mint- lot's of patina.

[@Cash2112]

I had a ‘73 Grand Sport with the 455 Stage 1 mill. I installed a Kenne Bell cam and a set of M/T repro Super Scavenger headers and that car surprised a few unsuspecting drivers back in the ‘80’s.

[@mightylonesome9426]

Races like this were a common site on US 31 S. on Indy's southside from the late 50's to the mid 70's. I know street racing is dangerous and wrong but I sure miss those days. Cars that used to be commonly seen on the streets are now rare, high dollar collectables.

[@keithbalke6352]

Lived in greenwood 90-92

[@Schwxrzritter]

May have been dangerous, but definitely not wrong if you were smart about it!

[@mightylonesome9426]

@@keithbalke6352 Been back lately?

[@johnharris6655]

My dad sold Pontiacs when the first high performance GTOs hit the lot. He talked the owner of the dealership into letting him take a couple of GTO's out to the local drag strip. He was beating people in custom cars with Stock GTO's off the lot with the window sticker still on it. He did "Win on Sunday and Sell on Monday." He said Monday morning some of the people he met at the drag strip came into buy a GTO.

[@peterhogan9537]

68 to 72 are the sporty A body;s , for 73 they got too big and too heavy.

[@YoRon427]

There were no 12-second muscle cars back in the sixties and seventies unless you had headers, slicks and gears. So I wouldn't call these stock

[@peteshea8010]

Despite the series' name, cars racing at in the "PURE STOCK DRAGS" are pretty far from pure stock in terms of their original production state. The PURE STOCK DRAGS incorporate the NHRA's "stock" technical specs, which permit 3 angle valve jobs, over-bores of up to .060", super thin head gaskets and so on. The "PURE STOCK DRAGS" allow further mods in the form of "improved stock cams" (faster ramp angles for greater average lift), modern pistons, rings, rods, electronic ignitions, modern, mandrel bent 2.5" dual exhaust systems with low restriction mufflers, drag oriented suspension mods and so on. Summarily, the old muscle cars you're seeing here are NOT "pure stock," but are instead purpose built cars. This particular Pontiac is one of the more famous cars participating in the series. Check out it's engine specs relative to the stock state: www.hemmings.com/blog/article/sleight-of-hand-sedan-1971-pontiac-le-mans-t-37-455/

[@stepside2839]

Thanks for the link👍

[@johnmills837]

No wear near stock should be the name.

[@johnferris8723]

Don't forget the mods in the fully rollerized automatics

[@jesselee4405]

NOT?

[@mr.bluzhound2875]

Street cars just generally weren’t too much quicker that a 14 second 1/4, back in the day. Lots of reasons, but something in the 13’s was quick. You knew both of these were breathed on. It’s ok, just don’t try to pass off like it’s Uncle Joe’s GTO.

[@SierraBravo347]

Had a '70 Skylark back in the day, with a Buick 350 in it. Bone stock except for the exhaust system. The previous owner had duals and glass packs put on it. Man, did it sound GOOD!!

[@gt-37guy6]

Sierra - the Skylark 4 Bbl engines made 310 HP that year. Even the 2 Bbl 350 cars had allot of torque.

[@crw3673]

Badass Buick to the front!

[@richki.24]

are these cars true stock ?? ...... pretty fast if stock off the showroom floor .. I thought they were high 13sec/low 14sec cars "stock" ...

[@CarsAndZebras]

Pure Stock Muscle Car Drag race. They allow some mods (compression ratio up 1.5 points, electronic ignition), so these cars really wake up with the compression ratio increase.

[@richki.24]

@@CarsAndZebras , got it thanks 👍🍻

[@chrisvig123]

You are correct it’s not original spec from the factory

[@mikesteelheart]

@@CarsAndZebras What about porting, headers, cam?

[@davidjenkins1958]

As a former 70 GS 455 owner I did the same thing with the one I had. The only thing that would give me a run was a 68 Mustang with a 429 in it. And yes back in the 70’s I put away a lot of Hemi’s. They were truly what they were called and that was a Hemi killer.

[@davidh1249]

If the Buick hadn't red lit,the second race would've been much closer.These two cars are as close to a evenly matched as you're going to get,the first race was very close with the GTO having the higher mph as they went through the lights.

[@CarsAndZebras]

You're right. Very similar cars in power and weight. Both with great low end torque.

[@sergeantmasson3669]

@@CarsAndZebras Buick 455 GSX would easily beat the GTO 455 XO.

[@justsumguy2u]

I'm not surprised at the outcome. GS455's were beasts back in the day, and they surprised many at the stoplight drags

[@AlejandroP1980s]

Can a 1969 gto judge 400 RAM Air V beat Buick stage 2

[@justsumguy2u]

@@AlejandroP1980s Not sure, but I don't really count cars like those, as there was only a handful ever made

[@Hobodeluxe960]

GTO driver was sleeping in the lights. Both rounds he got beat off the line bad.

[@justsumguy2u]

@@Hobodeluxe960 GTO's were vastly overrated, they were mid-tier musclecars

[@Hobodeluxe960]

@@justsumguy2u yeah I know, I bought a 1968 GTO back in 76 , one of the rare early ram air models

[@richardschneider8053]

Cuz I'm a father I appreciated this video. Because of the Buick, I loved this video, what a beautiful vehicle!

[@Sergio-ih6lk]

There is nothing like a pair of Beautiful American muscle cars just saying

[@larrybettie7153]

I'd have to take the Buick if I could choose one

[@dustylover100]

I like the 1970 GTO bumper better. Blended with the car much better. The 1971 bumper looked like it was somewhat disjointed.

[@johntempest267]

Awesome video. These cars aren't stock. The Buick's weight advantage can be attributed to it's 455. It's a tick faster than the Pontiac in the 1/4 mile. But the GTO, got the girls.

[@BigEightiesNewWave]

true..my Chevelle 325 HP 1970 ran 14.20@98.19 back then. Open hedders and a Holley.

[@AlejandroP1980s]

What about a 69 judge 400 ram air V can it beat Buick stage 2

[@johntempest267]

@@AlejandroP1980s They are so limited and rare, few ppl know.

[@johntempest267]

...and there was no 69 RA V Judge.

[@markbuchanan3694]

@@AlejandroP1980s there is a story about that match up in 70. The story goes that the stage 2 car got the gto ra5 by two car lengths, but don't know if anyone there is still alive to verify it.

[@tommyteeth5874]

Thanks for the vid! Cool match up. Very close races! Just goes to show compression isn't everything.... These cars are running 1970 high compression et's but their mph's are down.... The torque is there but the hp is mia.

[@CarsAndZebras]

No problem, just stay subscribed and hit the like button and I'll keep posting them. Very true, great torque from these engines but the MPH could be better. Underneath these cars are somewhat similar, so it makes for a great race!

[@CarsAndZebras]

That's very true... but it's also not allowed in the Pure Stock Muscle Car Drag Race series. haha

[@paulmills6203]

@@CarsAndZebras Exhaust cutouts were NHRA allowed back in the day. Two inch diameter Pipe with screw on end caps. Cut pipe in center on 90 degree angle, weld cut areas to exhaust pipes at first bend. Travel to Atco Dragway, crawl under GTO and unscrew caps with a pipe wrench. Automatic 20+ HP increase and 2 MPH increases Trap Speed. Performed this NHRA legal Stock Class Mod on a few cars I raced back in the day. Also Legal at the 1970 NHRA Indianapolis Spring Nationals for all Stock Classes. Just thought I would Throw this tidbit out there. The Video's are Impressive. Thank You.

[@carmineredd1198]

big block 455 versus small block 455 , pfft we already knew the outcome

[@sinnerssaint4712]

Had a 1969 442 Olds I could kick myself a thousand times for ..

[@thefish6777]

I miss you reading out the winner and loser.... sometimes it is hard to tell

[@MrBluzhound]

Nice cars. Who knew that by lowering compression to mid 8:1 would lower ET’s...? Low 12’s, Haha - nyet. Breathed on, but still nice.

[@JD-zd8tm]

I have no Idea what you're talking about but the cars are great!

[@badass6.0powerstroke10]

Hardcore Ford Lover here, but that Buick is Beautiful. I always said the Only GM Car i would Love to own is the 70 Buick GS Stage 1 Those Big Buick Engines are Torque Monsters. I Believe the 70 was rated at 360 H.P. 510 Ft.Lbs. That Torque Number is Nuts, can definitely get that Buick Rolling. I Believe Buick made the Best 455 out there, Way Better than Olds and Pontiac. And i Really Love the Looks of the Buick compared to the Chevelle, 442, GTO. Probably my Favorite GM Muscle Car. I gotta admit i do like the 69-72 Nova Too. Would make a Killer Nova with a Built Big Block FORD !

[@MonzaRacer]

And Pontiacs big number engine could push 390hp and forget tq numbers( the GTO hp rating was spun down vs full-size cars yet same engine!)

[@thegreenerthemeaner]

The Pontiac 455SD was the superior engine all around. Provision for Dry Sump oiling, web reinforcement internally of the block, superior rods, forged crank, best flowing heads this side of an RA V. Saddled with a wimpy cam and low compression, these were still very much a better engine.

[@jennybaji421]

Yea I feel the same way 👉🏼The BUICK JUST my favorite of ALL the A body’s. All cars actually

[@MrPONCHO467]

From your experience who is the go to guy to build and engine for this class or even the F.A.S.T class. Great videos

[@CarsAndZebras]

I'm not sure who the FAST guys use, but there's not one specific person in the Pure Stocks. Pure Stocks really only allow 1.5 points over stock compression ratio, and no other major modifications, so any high quality performance shop could handle that. Some of the Buick guys will send out to some Buick specialist to correct the 455 oiling issues, outside of that I haven't seen any specifics.

[@BigEightiesNewWave]

Not stock...I know what stock ran back then.

[@jeremymann8930]

So enlighten us

[@knackerbags5994]

There's no way a low comp engine can produce these times. These cars are modified but retain a stock look.

[@joequillun7790]

@@knackerbags5994 Both slightly modified equally. The times are up-graded, but the comparisons are accurate.

[@SealofPerfection]

@@knackerbags5994 Sure they can. I had a 76 Trans Am, just under 9:1 that ran exactly these times. It had a cam in it, but the cam was about the same as the one in the HO455. Stock intake, 650 carb, just like stock. Headers. And it was only a 400.

[@johntempest267]

@@SealofPerfection 4X and 6X head 400's from the seventies are gold! I didn't even change the cam. Summit had a carb/intake combo deal (750 & Performer), and some headers. My 79 firebird was a Iroc/5.0 GT slayer.

[@nickmorris9383]

Had three buick skylarks and my ( converted) 1970 Buick 455 with a x pipe 3in. Exhaust was by far the most enjoyable car I ever owned!!! It had the 1970 non stage 1 engine but MT edelbrock full headers made up the difference! It had a cam out of Alabama (hydrolic, not tapped set mechanical) with I self ported the heads) and an edelbrock 800cfm carb.....pretty simple but my car was an ass kicker!!! Ran 10s at Thunder Valley Oklahoma every time I prodded the beast 7 miles from my home 7 miles away at Lexington Oklahoma.......won lots of beer money from that car and lots of memories! Sold it at the track 8 months later. Made a lot of money on that deal but wished now I hadn't done it........loved my black evil Shark skylarks (it had a stage 2 hood scoop and rear spoiler, rocking a set cobra 11 on. 500 series wheels and a 4 link Art morrison rear suspension on coilovers)......we bad, we bad!!!!....thats the best time of my life and I HATE MY EXWIFE FOR MAKING ME GET RID OF MY BUILT CAR......FUCK HER AND DIE BITCH!!!

[@ronnieboucherthecrystalcraftsm]

8.4 - 1 comp = perfect for a turbo charger !

[@thegreenerthemeaner]

Gear ratios seem strange on both cars. Pontiac used 3.55 and 3.90. Buick used 3.42 and 3.90. Chevrolet used both 3.31 and 3.73. B-P-O used a very different housing compared to Chevrolet and other than brake shoes and fluid, very little interchanged.

[@MrSingleton66]

thegreenerthemeaner All 455 equipped GTOs, (‘70-‘72), came with a heavy-duty 12-bolt rear, so that’s why the gear ratios are a little different than the 10-bolt BOP rear that the 400 cid GTOs received.

[@GearheadRob319]

Big, Bad,Buick.

[@fartsare2023]

The torque that these cars made shakes my bottom just from watching the video.

[@AlexRamirez-lf1wj]

Nice buick i got 2 68 rivieras i installed a 455 in both of them one is a gs love my buick

[@gt-37guy6]

Alex, good move, the 430 is a great passenger car engine, but they are a bit fragile due to some lubrication issues...I had a 69 Electra convert back in the day, and that 430 was a tricky skid-ish engine. Just after rebuilding the whole engine with new aftermarket pistons and cam, somehow Oil was blocked from getting to the drivers side lifter bank! It took a special "Oil galley bypass" kit from a Buick aftermarket house, and removing the transmission and Flywheel to access the galley plugs in the rear of the motor. What a nerve wracking experience - but it worked out. After it was running great about 3000 miles into new motor the transmission caved in, and had to pull it again! I got really good at that job....lol....455's have allot better oiling systems and lower end, Love dem Buicks!

[@darrellsomers5427]

Everyone knows the Buick block used a thin wall casting it's the lightest of the GM 455 it weighs just a little more then a small block chevy ,could you show the rules for this class it is certainly not pure stock ?

[@mannieecker8602]

Really nice channel you have going on hear CAZ, looking forward to watching all of your vids, Thanks for posting these up.

[@CarsAndZebras]

I appreciate you watching! I have a lot more to come!

[@danmyers9372]

So what mods ARE allowed? Both cars are easily a second quicker in the 1/4 mile than stock. I used to drag race in the 1970’s and have first hand experience as to what stock muscle cars ran back in the day.

[@joejackson9172]

Quoted for truth. So many stories get told by people who exaggerate what cars ran back in the day. This is an honest post. Kudos!

[@transrus1]

Whats funny is that these cars ran 12.7 12.0 Today you got Camaro & Mustang with more HP going slower ?

[@darrellsomers5427]

No stock Pontiac or Buick ran 12's

[@CamaroZ-cr9bo]

2 GM legends!!

[@CarsAndZebras]

Yeah, two of my favorites!

[@kos2318]

What are you people out of your mind there’s no stock factory muscle car from that era that would turn those type of times unless it was a factory light weight if you don’t believe me go to KZbin and look up dream car garage muscle car show down

[@jeremythompson9122]

Weird how the Buick is lighter than the Pontiac because Buick's were typically loaded up with luxury options. I'll take the Buick if I had to choose one. Never cared much for the looks of the 70-72 GTO body style. The Buicks and Oldsmobiles were the best looking of the 70-72 GM A-Bodies in my opinion

[@johnkendall6962]

The biggest reason was the Buick V-8. Buick's 455 V-8 was lighter than a Chevy small block

[@jackrohde4709]

I hate rear distributor motors, I take Buick.

[@johnkendall6962]

@@jackrohde4709 I don't mind rear distributors if there is room to get to them and remove them without moving the motor. Also you don't have to watch belts or cooling fans back there. I have a 97 Dakota pickup the distributor is so far under the firewall it's hard to remove the cap whoever thought that one out should be fired.

[@jackrohde4709]

@@johnkendall6962 I'm a big fat guy it's too hard on old Pontiac's to bend over to tune up, they put the motors too far back and down.

[@johnkendall6962]

@@jackrohde4709 LOL I'm old and fat, Know what you mean. Take care.

[@tamarahines9804]

When Pontiac came out with the 455 and the Mark IV Ram Air, I was online !

[@skiptan71]

Tamara Hines Nice Two Lane Blacktop quote! 👍🏻

[@tjclt250r]

I was testing jets in bakersfield

[@madmaxxxthen30-rwofficialm23]

Those satisfactions are permanent

[@gt-37guy6]

Yup, decided to "Up my game".....

[@John1Brady]

My first car was a well used 1971 Pontiac LeMans T-37 with the 350cid and 350thm trans with bench seat. I wanted a GTO so bad but I was a poor ass kid. Still, gotta love your first!

[@gt-37guy6]

John - Very cool...Had a 72 Lemans Gold with GT stripe, I think it was close enough to being a GTO, I am not sure I would have lived had I had twice the HP! The 350 2 BBL was rebuilt and super tight...she dusted quite a few crappy Chevs in the day. I threw on a huge quadrajet and intake from a Bonneville 455, the top speed went from 110 to 128 MPH for a $ 50 swap and 90 minutes of wrenching....!

[@werewally3156]

im calling it now. buick gs. no contest. dammit i was so sure.

[@CarmieThompson]

Sorry, accidently hit 'comment' when I didn't mean too. The video is 4 years on so it didn't make any sense to comment. Guess now that I'm here I just wanted to mention that both cars were much heavier then what you reported. The Buick was listed around 3,721 lbs. w/o driver. The Pontiac around 3,845 lbs. w/o driver. My comment was really triggered by the 1/4 mi. times you mentioned. Neither car could run mid 13's, otherwise the 0-60 times would be around 5 sec., not the low 6 sec. range. Anyway, that's my flubbed-up comment. Thanks for the video.

[@Diggerdog2nd]

I bought my first car when I was 16 in the summer of 1982. A 1971 Buick GS. Lucky I survived with all that power at such a young age. Something special about your first anything let alone a car like that. Wish I still had it but it was gone by late 1985. One picture & a lot of great memory's is all I have left of it

[@edwardpate6128]

Keep in mind that all auto makers then, especially GM, HIGHLY underrated their advertised horsepower to help avoid crushing insurance costs.

[@soundspartan]

Remember "Little Joe"...Mark Busher's GS!

[@jayelbee1111]

Those GM A-Body muscle cars 1968-1972 were great cars. They were: Buick Skylark GSX with Stage 1 Fireball 455 V-8 Chevrolet Chevelle SS with LS6 454 V-8 Cowl Induction Oldsmobile Cutlass Hurst/Olds 442 with Rocket 455 V-8 Pontiac Tempest GTO with Super Duty 455 V-8 Ram Air

[@jasonkoster3102]

2 of my favorite cars ever. Had a gs400 convertible years ago. Someday I'll have a gto so I can say will have had both. Loved that Buick. Loved this video, thanks!

[@CarsAndZebras]

Thanks for watching! I actually have a video of a GS400 convertible coming in the future!

[@gt-37guy6]

Jason - You have great taste in cars! Many memories of GS convertibles here too - My brother had 69 GS400 convert, and buddy had a 70 455 Convert right around the same time....it changes your life! Many Buicks later, I have a 74 GS 455 now....It is a Howitzer canon with windshield wipers - just like the old Gran Sport ad in 1965...

[@jasonkoster3102]

@@gt-37guy6 I'll never forget, the car was bought new for a business owners daughter for college. Way to much car for her... sky baby blue, white top, white leather interior... the chuckles and snickers at red lights from other muscle car owners, til the light turned green. The giggles and chuckles usually turned to anger... at the same time we owned that, my brother owned a 71 formula 400 firebird. 4 speed, had a crane fireball 2 cam... the gs would walk away from it. The memories of that buick... I'll have another some day...

[@jasonkoster3102]

@@CarsAndZebras please let us know when !

[@gt-37guy6]

@@jasonkoster3102 - The first time my friend let me drive the 70 GS455 a Chevelle pulled out right next to me....We looked at each other at the same time an both floored it....The Chev was 5 or 6 car lengths behind me in about 6 seconds, my jaw dropped! It was light metallic blue too, and was a parade car for a local politician when new. Someone put a 750 Holley on it and an 8 Quart oil pan.....we used to race motorcycles with it! (But - motorcycles were not all that fast in the early 80s!). The 69 400 was very strong too, but not the wallup of that particular 455. At highway speed it would spin some tire on kickdown to 2nd!

[@no_modsiwantguitarstock5162]

Well the pontiac looks cooler than the buick

[@CarsAndZebras]

I think they're both pretty cool!

[@thomasbrown2246]

I am still waiting to hear you telling me what the cars ran I could not hear the speaker from the drag strip. I'll bet more people would like to hear you tell us.

[@CarsAndZebras]

It’s shown in the video. Sounds like you might need new glasses. 😆

[@markbrandon7359]

10,000 is not a lot of GTO's Pontiac was already trying to kill the GTO in favor of the Firebird and after 1972 they where gone (Unless you count that mess they called a GTO in 1973) Chevy killed the Camaro in favor of the corvette Huge mistake as Mustang sales sky rocketed and they had to bring the Camaro back. The HO version used 400ci #16 heads with 10 to 1 compresion

[@jimmeyer7632]

2 ... 1971 455 GM'S ..... ALTHOUGH BOTH HAVE LOWERED COMPRESSION RATIOS... THIS WELL WORTH A LOOK SEE !!!!!

[@christopherjackson2690]

THAT 455 BUICK RATED AT HIGHER LB FT OF TORQUE DID 12.12 ICH READ IN FIRST ROUND AGAINST 12.72 FOR THAT KOVETED STAGE 1: ROUND 2 STAGE 1 DID 12.72 AGAINST 12.81: SOME 1 SEEM TO BE STEPPING ON FUEL PEDAL AS HARD AS THEY CAN VERSUS OTHER 1:

[@SEP392]

Not a stage 1 car, its a GS 455 built to stage 1 specs? Also, why does GS have radial tires, radial tires are not allowed for pure stock drags unless they were original equipment?

[@ThunderAppeal]

These cars are so loud that even when I put this video on mute I can still hear them roar.

[@CarsAndZebras]

👍

[@carlosoliveira-rc2xt]

This channel should have many more subscribers than it does.

[@joshbrekke6374]

Left lane is faster. GTO driver is making sandwiches at the light. Each car made/makes well over 500 Lb Ft of Tq

[@user-vn6vx6rf7d]

Why exactly do they call this pure stock? LOL these cars were NEVER this fast out of the box.

[@o2boutdoors]

Both those cars are drool-worthy!

[@CarsAndZebras]

Both look awesome and drive very nicely! Quick and comfortable

[@markday2198]

Love it , just like the good ole days again !

[@v.e.7236]

Blows me away that my S10 Blazer weighs the same (~3500 lbs.) as those muscle cars. Guess that HP was needed to get those heavy duty beasties moving?! My Pop raced a '67 Chevelle w/ a 327 and always seemed to win his class. Found out years later that he did port work, as well as undercut valves, on his (non-double hump) heads and that was the difference that gave him the edge.

[@CarsAndZebras]

The 327 was definitely a great motor. A little bit of porting work and the right gears and those things couldn’t really scream!

[@lorenhewitt8279]

Men racing $100,00.00 vintage muscle cars . Not too many people can afford to to it.

[@DavidMiddleton-w6x]

the gto needs some gears in the back. it'd be awesome

[@daniellelemond7426]

Imagine what the numbers would be adding a simple Paxton Supercharger to the low compression engines.

[@mikesteelheart]

In '71 they weren't that low yet on the performance motors, probably around 10-1.

[@n8rivera74]

mikesteelheart, Buick 455 compression dropped from ‘70 (10:1) to ‘71 (8.5-9:1). The SAE (gross) hp dropped 10hp, I think. When they went to SAE (net) in 1972, hp dropped again, with no change in compression, to more realistic power levels, realistic from the perspective of what the driver would feel behind the wheel.

[@LR-my2di]

@@mikesteelheart Not the Buick. I had one. It was a true 8.86 to 1 according to cranking compression. .

[@briancarrier1451]

Did you take they day off. No commentary about the races, no times or speed. Subpar for you

[@chuckwagon5518]

You keep teasing people by showing parts of races as opposed to the full race. Why?

[@jrg7951]

A Boss 351 Mustang would be a great car for this type of comparison

[@CarsAndZebras]

Maybe, but there really aren’t any Mustangs that come to the Pure Stocks for some reason, so I just don’t get any footage of them unfortunately.

[@DeanMk1]

Cool race, but the track needs to work on that stuck win light. ;-)

[@kennydavis3189]

Who won? Cant see the board?

[@Recon1500]

Kenny Davis gto won both I’m pretty sure Buick jumped the gun on the second race

[@markbuchanan3694]

@@Recon1500 look closer

[@sinnerssaint4712]

Awesome channel for muscle car fans to geek out on. Excellent!

[@craigewen4187]

All old cars look better than new ones in and out .Oldschool always lol.

[@danchristopher7957]

Change to 10/1 pistons, cam, massage heads, exhaust

[@mikeh.753]

The Buick had far better heads than the H.O. Pontiac.

[@gshock3092]

Both are nice but I'll take the Pontiac

[@dwb131313]

You’ve got the coolest channel dude. Heck yeah.

[@denniskoller5662]

I figured that the buick would win.

[@jeantetreault132]

The Buick took over the Pontiac in this race. It’s obvious.

[@salty_cracker69]

Not really

[@jimmeyer7632]

THESE VIDEOS ARE ABSOLUTELY GREAT MANY OF THE CARS ARE LEGENDS WHAT KIND OF A "GUMP" WOULD TAKE A 69 ZL1 WORTH WELL OVER $4OO,000.00 AND TAKE A CHANCE OF DESTROYING IT OVER SOME KIND OF MISHAP

[@CarsAndZebras]

Someone with really good insurance! HA

[@gregmooney4090]

if you dont drive it your missing what it all about

[@stephenflowers8516]

In reality neither one of them would have come close to 13 second quarter mile times, I was there in the 70s, it just didn't happen stock. But I still love both cars.

[@AlejandroP1980s]

Stephen Flowers hey can a 1970 boss 429 or a 1971 mustang boss 351 or a 1970 Shelby gt500 beat a 1970 Buick gsx 455 stage 1

[@stephenflowers8516]

@@AlejandroP1980s In my opinion it depends. Are they automatic, standard, what gearing, High output, economic, does the driver know how to get some traction? There's endless variables. That's my long winded answer.

[@AlejandroP1980s]

Stephen Flowers ok thanks true gears and how well tune properly it matters

[@JamesSilcox-n5e]

Two of my favorites also.

[@paultaktikian1485]

If you follow Nick's Garage you will see that all these engines were very close.

[@LR-my2di]

Did you know about Nick match racing a 1970 GSX Stage 1 in July 1993 at his home Naperville track outside of Montreal. He raced the GSX with his green 1971 Hemicuda. Both cars were bone stock appearing. It was for MCR magazine. Nick relighted and still got run down and beat.. Then he refused to run the GSX again in the 2 out of 3 match race. I was in Montreal from NYC to see it first hand.