1989 and 2020 Air Jordan 4 Fire Red Comparison

A detailed breakdown of the 1989 and 2020 Air Jordan fire red 4, one of the greatest models and colorway's, ever! Both pairs size 11 and DS. Nike Air or bust!

[@drummagazinesllc7409]

These look really good for them to be from 1989

[@ogorbust1697]

Thanks man, one of the favorites in my collection!

[@drummagazinesllc7409]

@@ogorbust1697 yes indeed bro keep it up

[@twandon28]

Facts bro 😎

[@krisnyc9134]

I wish they would bring back that narrow pointed toe from the OG

[@crazywall256]

One my pairs of the fire reds I got has that narrow pointed toe but the other doesn’t 😭

[@Jay-xo4vc]

@@crazywall256 their fake then

[@crazywall256]

@@Jay-xo4vc bought them from finish line on release day I won the raffle for pickup

[@rodeodrivesecurity248]

@@crazywall256 everynow and then the workers mess up and make the toe correct

[@DammitBobby]

Dude those og's are in AMAZING condition. I've seen bubbles look waaaaaaay more disintegrated then those that aren't even half the age. Good job keeping them in such good condition. Good af video

[@ogorbust1697]

Thank you! I have the black/cement too DS but the midsoles are more crumbled. Uppers are excellent condition. They'll make it to youtube one day lol

[@tacos420.7]

@@ogorbust1697 isn’t the only way to prevent crumble by wearing the shoe and cleaning it ?

[@ogorbust1697]

@@tacos420.7 with retros yes, you definitely should wear periodically to keep the polyurethane flexible

[@tacos420.7]

@@ogorbust1697 now what exactly does periodically mean, specifically how long?

[@ogorbust1697]

@@tacos420.7 I'd wear them for a few days every 4 months should be good imo

[@phondekarvidhesh]

Most videos I've watched comparing it to the 2012. But this video is by far the best comparison I have seen.

[@ogorbust1697]

Thank you very much! Nothing like comparing it to the OG, the standard and there isn't too many DS pairs out there. We all know what the jumpman retros lacked anyway lol great to see this Nike branding return!

[@nolastnamejames177]

I feel you on the crying story, I did the same for the Infrared VIs. After my mom bought the shoes, we went to Pizza Hut to spend my Book It points for a personal pan. The good ol days.

[@nadiraziz97]

Wow! Good times. Book it was the shit!! I lived for that personal pan. Back when Pizza Hut was the best!

[@ogorbust1697]

Amazing man! Haha wow I almost forgot about that book points pizza at the Hut!

[@ambfilm1188]

Yooo! You brought me back with the Book It points. I read more books during that period of my life just so I could get that Pizza Hut 🍕

[@AnHebrewChild]

I BEGGED my parents for the AJ 4s. They told me "get a paper route." So I did. But by the time I got trained & collected first month... the 4s were out of stores. So my first pair was the black 5s on release date. I was thrilled regardless... especially that shiny tongue. All the kids in my neighborhood were still rocking the 4s ha ha. Now my bucket list is the AJ white cement 4s.... I have the first retro militaries (2004?) and the 2012 blacks (so so..)... I missed the white 4s in 2016 due to a layoff. Anyone know the best reseller online these days for Iordans?

[@kmlpchikaz]

@@AnHebrewChild Nowadays you're only routes would be the webites goat and stockx. I personally only use goat since they seem to have the better reputation. They will cost a premium but they are legit.

[@parrishjordan4729]

Love the fact that you highlighted the height comparison on these! most important aspect of modern 4s to me. hopefully JB gets the heel tab & height right on the MB4s & WC4s next release.

[@ogorbust1697]

Thanks man, I hope to see the military 4s next! I appreciate you tuning in!🙏🏻

[@InZaneKicks]

How a proper comparison should be done, great job Nick. They definitely stepped it up with putting in the effort to try to get it back as close to the original,I think they're on the right path.

[@ogorbust1697]

Thank you Zane! Definitely the best retro yet..! Hopefully they only get better.

[@Raymondstu]

Love this comparison - respect to the OGS, that shape is so nice back in the 80/90s

[@zkalbz6815]

There can only be one MJ, so as his shoes, there can only be one OGs. Just a shame NIKE could not recreate the OGs the way it was before considering the modern day tech and all we have today, there's just no justice. Well, what an utter beauty all these OGs are.

[@ogorbust1697]

Thanks man, retros are nice but the originals is where it's at, just like Mike. JB has plenty of references to recreate yet makes them look so well of what the original looks like.

[@VintageDonny216]

That’s What I Just Said They Can’t Even Duplicate The OG Plus The Shape & Quality Terrible

[@dirtyd2316]

The white cement 4’s were the Jordan that started it for me but like your parents mine were the same way and were not dropping 110 plus tax on some shoes for a 11 year old. They did get me a pair of air flight 89 highs but that was only because they were on sale but I was happy with those till I got my first pair of Jordan’s which were the black metallic 5’s. I had finally talked my mom into getting me a pair of 4’s but when we got their they didn’t have the white cements in my size so I was gonna get the fire reds but the guy at the store toLHD us the new Jordans just ca,e out and as soon as he showed me the black metallics it was a wrap and I had to get them. They were so insane looking cause it was the first shoe to have the 3 m tongue and clear bottoms and the clear lace locks. As far as these fire red retros it’s cool to see that Jordan is really starting to pay attention to the smaller details and getting them closer to the original. I hated the way they were doing the tongues of the 3’s and 4’s and not wrapping the leather to the back.The toe box is a little better than it was but it’s still got a way to go but overall they look decent. Now if they could only fix the elephant print on the 3’s and not make it so bold and lower it and fix the funky looking ankle collar I’d be happy.

[@ogorbust1697]

Very nice man, thanks for sharing! Love the flight '89.. sounds like me hitting the sales rack as well hah. Always tons of 🔥🔥 to pick from older nike models. Loved the black metallic 5, again denied of any Jordan's till I shed some tears to get my black infrared 6 in '91. Wish I did it earlier lol.. my cousins boyfriend had the fire red 3m tongues I would gawk at them haha.. felt so good to get those 6s though!

[@dirtyd2316]

@@ogorbust1697 I hear you bro. I did the same thing with a kid that had the white cement 4’s. I would stare at those shoes all day and wanted them so bad but never got the chance to get them. I did though get the 99 retro when those came out which were nice but I didn’t like that they didn’t have as much cement splatter like the originals but I loved them anyway. You definitely have a beautiful collection and just subbed to see what you bust out next.

[@ogorbust1697]

@@dirtyd2316 excellent, thanks man.. be sure to check out my white cement 4 video. Finally crossed the OG off the list last month 😍

[@jeremyrainwater2175]

Your OG is very nice!! Love the video

[@smith952]

1989, Hampstead school, London : we were all smoking behind the drama block as we did every break time and then Tomi appeared wearing the first pair of Jordan IV´s I ever saw. I dont think I have ever been moved so much by a single design as I was in that moment. (They also looked amazing with the trousers that his mum had made him - true - she's amazing) I didn't have the money to buy them but one day I stole them when on Acid. Best walk I ever had..It was like having supercharged feet. The retros never get it right imo. God is in the details, man.

[@ogorbust1697]

Haha wow.. thats an amazing story, I appreciate you sharing! You are 100% correct too. The retros are never going to serve the OG justice. I buy some here and there but nothing like the original releases.

[@jonzuntv]

Wow!! Look at the condition of the 89 great video bro. Thank you

[@ogorbust1697]

Thanks for tuning in, on of my favorites in the collection!

[@John-ou3ju]

awesome side by side, thanks for putting this together.

[@ogorbust1697]

Thanks for the kind words and tuning in!

[@SecretSauce_24]

Not everyday you find an OG from 89 in that condition 🔥🔥🔥

[@ogorbust1697]

Thanks man, still searching for those military and white cements to complete the OG set!

[@Longenecker1776]

@@ogorbust1697 Honestly, how many OG’s do you think exist? Also, do you remember them as having almost a pillow like cushioning near the heel? They were insanely cushioned compared to the 4 retro’s.

[@ogorbust1697]

@@Longenecker1776 not a whole lot of 0G 4 fire reds out there and especially ds very scarce. Yes, the heel cushioning is very soft. Most heavily worn pairs you see have holes in the back. Material was a bit too soft for heavy wear.

[@MrKhenion]

Those 89s have held up well! Great video

[@ogorbust1697]

Thank you, I appreciate you tuning in!👊🏻👊🏻

[@Rustishack78]

Same thing with me, first Jordans I wanted so bad were those 89's! Finally got my first pair in 1991! Black infrared. And in 1992, I bought a used pair of 89 black cement from a kid named Jordan Pike. I gotta find the pic of me wearing them on the court!

[@ogorbust1697]

Haha awesome man, we have the same story!

[@koolkeiths]

Those 89's!!! I fell in love with Sneakers when I saw these in 89/90ish...These were so dope at that time...

[@ogorbust1697]

Black/cement 4 is the first pair I begged my folks for. They blocked my shot and gave me some knockoffs. 🤣

[@koolkeiths]

@@ogorbust1697 Reebok GL6000's if ya were lucky LOL. maybe even Keds or Hush-puppys lol

[@tcastle1927]

Cool vid - solid comparison and observations. Your 2020 pair looks clean and even from what I can tell - NICE. Mine are uneven at the front leather panel just about the midsole - right shoe is a higher cut compared to the left.

[@ogorbust1697]

Man, I'm really sorry to hear that. I've heard and seen many people having issues with this release. I grabbed two pairs and both are really good, this pair was a bit cleaner so used it in the video. Disappointing to hear so many people complaining when such an iconic shoe re released with Nike for the first time and at the price point.

[@DJSly27]

Great comparison! That 89 OG is in CRISP condition!

[@ogorbust1697]

Thanks man, I appreciate you tuning in!

[@TheDudeAbides1998]

Favorite J of all time, the fire red 4! Left pair on most people's 2020 pair has a better shape on the toe box than on the right pair.

[@4a1r0n]

Who's here after buying 2020 fire red jordan 4s?

[@daltexdp1]

Awesome comparison!

[@ogorbust1697]

Thank you! 🙏🏻

[@TH3_DON_M3G4]

Why would anyone thumbs down this...cause they are jealous. Props to your collection bro...im old just like you. My first jordan was the OG Grape 5 when I was 10

[@ogorbust1697]

Awesome, thanks man! Great memories for sure with these kicks back in the day. Each pair was so special and coveted. Either had to get for Christmas or when I was older I purchased cutting grass etc. Still own them all of course.

[@VintageDonny216]

They Either Too Young To Know About Or Just Simple Minded “SneakerHeads” Will Call A Original Jordans “Fake” Because Of The Condition Over The Year But Here Thing My Advice If You Want Make OG Pair Be Great Just Restore Em Use A Old Retro Pair AKA Donors Tools Needed Cotton Balls Acetone Heat Gun Dremel (If Possible) And Cement Glue To Complete The Mission Or Don’t Forget About The Acrylic Paint Too

[@mandownunder3600]

i enjoyed this man,thank you so much.seems like to turn back time.i am a fan of original jordans.God bless. show more. like the original banned one.

[@ogorbust1697]

Thanks man I appreciate it! You can see the original black/red AJ 1 and the rest of my collection in the video I did for all my 85 1's. Cheers!

[@KING-pl3jg]

Great comparison video, man

[@ogorbust1697]

Thank you, thanks for tuning in!

[@joshgotkustoms]

such a great side by side video

[@ogorbust1697]

Thanks!👊🏻

[@TheBoyJenius]

I actually like the branding alignment on the heel of the OG a little more than the remaster. But I’ll take either one to be dead honest. They getting a lot better with the toe box. Still not as tapered as the original but much better than past drops. I’m pretty sure the materials on the remasters are definitely better than the OG, just like you said.

[@squidward9358]

The condition on the 89s ! Amazing

[@ogorbust1697]

Thanks man, definitely one of the favorites in my collection!

[@dadasha]

I love that on foot section at 14:10!

[@tedbundy2268]

WOW the originals blow the retros out of the water in every way . Great review 🔥

[@mr.sandwichesreviews5900]

Whoa!!! The originals had peaks!!! Cool Vid!

[@ogorbust1697]

Yes sir, thank you!

[@hugehiphophead]

nice finding your channel on here brother!! educate the culture (y)

[@ogorbust1697]

Thanks buddy, I appreciate you tuning in! 🙏🏻🙏🏻 more videos to come!

[@rolandbaron5813]

Great comparison. Idk why JB wouldn't or can't get that og shape right. Oh well, that's how 4's are coming these days. None the less still a classic iconic shoe.

[@ogorbust1697]

A solid retro, id just like to see more consistency when the right changes are made year after year.

[@rolandbaron5813]

@@ogorbust1697 right.

[@kurtasa3884]

I love the "grunge" intro. Nice little "NIRVANA" vibes from it.

[@ogorbust1697]

Haha thanks man! It's great to put some original video and music together. Definitely having fun with it! Love Nirvana too haha

[@FezzyG23]

These are from my birth year!!!! 89 baby! Just copped a pair and they are 🔥!!!! Drop a like if u a 89 baby or u just like these😁

[@carlosescoto5054]

That flight gear is sick AF!

[@ogorbust1697]

Thanks man, classic clothing back in the day!

[@slimhussein3374]

OG's have that crocodile snout...the 2020 alligator. Pointed vs round toe box.

[@mmff3428]

Man ... I wish I still had mine. Awesome 👊👊👊👊👊

[@ogorbust1697]

Thanks buddy! Still wish I had my knock offs too hahaha

[@owen7185]

Remember too back in 89/90 the FLIGHT shorts? Black with the red flight Lego?

[@ravioli2389]

Damm good video.....i still have a pair of black 4's from 1989 when i was in the 5th grade size 8.5, the 4's is my fav, blck cem, white cem & white/red OG's......NIKE AIR ON THE BACK 😛👈 that's MJ ✌

[@ogorbust1697]

Awesome man! I have all my pairs from my childhood too, love to hear that.

[@ravioli2389]

@@ogorbust1697 So if we still got all our J's from childhood, that makes us OG Sneakerheads. 😎 👟👟👟👟👟👟👟👟👟👟👟

[@Longenecker1776]

How many OG unworn pairs are left from 89? I have a used pair.

[@hervemakitu9801]

WoW the 89 stil great nice comparaison 👍🏾👍🏾

[@ogorbust1697]

Thank you!

[@kevj1349]

Great video!

[@ogorbust1697]

Thank you!👊🏻

[@harrybutler98]

Nice video well done , do you have any original Nike Air Jordan 4 promotional / advertising material from 1989 like product catalogs , posters etc ?

[@ogorbust1697]

Not the promo stuff but I have the SI MJ poster with him rocking the black/cement 4s. Just dug it up recently it was always on my bedroom wall lol.. really made me obsessed with the shoe looking at it every day and reminding me my folks would never buy them 🤣🤦‍♂️

[@crazywall256]

Those are the cleanest OGs shape wise I ever seen

[@ogorbust1697]

Thank you, I appreciate you watching!

[@TheBoyJenius]

Damn. They got it pretty close though. Great video though homie.

[@ogorbust1697]

Thanks man, I appreciate you tuning in!

[@no40]

I wish Jordan Brand retro the 4s with a wider and taller collar like the OGs. The OGs looked so much better with the higher collar. I never liked how the back tab was taller on the retros and how they dug into my ankles, smh.

[@ogorbust1697]

The 4s are a model they continue to mess up. One detail fixed and then they mess up another that was just fine.

[@Plutooo4L]

Seeing how yellow that midsole is on the 89 pair, I can just imagine what those reimagined Bred 4s will look like 😻😮‍💨

[@ogorbust1697]

They did the 3s kinda light if you look at my video. Mjs gamer heel tabs way more oxidized, they definitely went with a lighter shade like 94 retro you could say for the wc3

[@lelli97bo]

Great Comparison

[@ogorbust1697]

Thanks for tuning in!🙏🏻

[@VictorVonDoom.]

I’m exactly the same. I’m 39 and wanted a pair when I was a kid, but my mum couldn’t afford to buy me them which at the time I was upset about, but when I got older and understood the value of money I felt bad for nagging my mum to buy me them as my dad didn’t give my mum any money for me and my sister and my mum had to work 2 jobs to look after me and my sister and she done a damn good job even though money was always tight 😃

[@ogorbust1697]

Yeah man, the top tier Nikes and Jordan's weren't cheap! Had to go all in for Christmas to get a pair and well worth the wait! Probably why I cherished them so much too and still have them they weren't just given at any time. Truly special.

[@huskyhancho3364]

Man whr u keep thm 89's in the freezer? I had sum og 5's frm like 99-00' and they held up for like 15yrs no lie but then the air pockets just gave out foam came all out on both shoes lol so yo joints frm 89' shiiiiddddd!!!! Thats excellent!

[@ogorbust1697]

Are you suggesting that I should wear the og 4 fire red?

[@grizzly6748]

I wish that nike bring the old retro shape back. Lookin better in my opinion.

[@eric4life497]

Sorry i'm 2yrs behind.... I just copped these and yes i paid a hefty price but it was worth it. Yeah i know where was i the last 2 yrs. I guess sleeping in the closet...lol. Anyways i notice the tongue on the AJ 4 retros seems much taller than the originals which I don't mind. Other than that I'm glad i get to finally own a pair. It does have somewhat of a snuggly fit but i can get use to it. Instead of the Jump Man logo they put the Nike Air Logo. Nike definately got that one right. This definately one of MJ's most iconic kicks !!

[@TheDudeAbides1998]

I wonder if the netting is the same material or is it different? And how is the padding on the ankle collar on the OG in comparison to the 2020?

[@ogorbust1697]

Netting is pretty close, they got the angle right i think it looks good. Part that they really messed up on is size and shape of netting on toe box so small and weird shape on 2020. Makes the front of the shoe on the og along with sleek toe box. Ankle area a bit more snug and firm padded on the 2020. Og is a bit wider and softer. Maybe too soft as you see worn ogs usually have a rip in the heel from slipping on and off

[@bulletz4life]

didnt the og 4's retail for 100$? thats like the whole bit from do the right thing

[@vivelecinema4357]

Waou, those 89 OG are nuts. The retros are dope but cant compare with those,. The shape is much better, from the front (less higher and the round net) to the less higher black heel tag. And damn i love the wider heel (and so thé muche better centered nike air), i think this is the more important point jordan brand need to reproduce on the 4 to be more close to the OG perfection. This heel low and wide is the 4th signature. Anyway congrats dude.

[@ogorbust1697]

Thanks man. Nothing compares to the original! I appreciate you tuning in too, hopefully one day we see something very close to the OG in shape and details.

[@slybarber]

Great video! Only one bit of info was off. The original Jordans, air max and the early trainers came with the plastic hang tag not the bubble. Keep up the good work!

[@chitown702]

Nah mine never came with plastic hangtag always big bubble hangtag I don't even remember the plastic hangtag.

[@slybarber]

@@chitown702 respectfully, just because you don't remember the tag doesn't make me right or you wrong. I was in the line in 89 for these but feel free to disagree ✌

[@ogorbust1697]

I've seen both hang tags come from OG 4s actually. This one was from my black/cement 4. So quite possible they came both ways from what I've found.

[@slybarber]

@@ogorbust1697 true on re releases... but in 89 it was all plastic

[@chitown702]

@@slybarber true I'm saying I too was buying these gym 👟's in 89 I honestly never seen that plastic until 2020 bred I purchased which don't get me wrong is a better tag to wear due to weight but the bubble is just more nostalgic to me...🤷🏿‍♂️ Good debate bro 💯👍🏿✊🏿✊🏿✊🏿

[@dennyringgenberg5288]

These are the first jordans I wanted and also was made to wear knockoffs. They were jordache and they just didn't cut it

[@ogorbust1697]

Ahhh I had a black knock off pair. First pair I wanted too playoff 4s. I'll have to look if it was the same company. I've been searching forever I swear they were called hoops 🤣

[@VintageDonny216]

Great Comparison 2020 Fire Red IV Look The Close To The OG But It’s Just The “Nike Air” Spacing Out Wide While The 89’s Is Centered Perfect And The Height Of The Shoe On The Back Side Too

[@ogorbust1697]

Thanks man, I appreciate you tuning in! That wider heel and tab makes all the difference along with the height of the shoe.

[@VintageDonny216]

@@ogorbust1697 Exactly I Mean I Like The Retro Of IV With Nike Air On The Back Instead Of Pointless Jumpman Logo In OG Colorways They Just Need To Bring The Military Blue In OG Form

[@kicksthelifestyle8236]

Where did you get those sweatpants from or is that from the flight jumpsuit

[@ogorbust1697]

Flight AJ joggers off ebay years ago.

[@techvidz4451]

is the tongue shorter on the 89s? I feel like the tongues are huge on modern retros

[@ogorbust1697]

Yep retro tongue is definitely taller

[@jeromelafond4644]

We all understand now that nike will not be able to make retros 100% identical with OGs but....why leather ????? Please give us something close to durabuck,something synthetic 🙏🙏🙏 Hard pass on that one.

[@omarbatie8724]

What about 2020’s leather quality? Do you think it’s better than ‘06’s & ‘12’s?

[@ogorbust1697]

Definitely better than 2012, most similar id say to 2016 white cement 4.

[@ultimatechrisso6592]

Nike Air looks so much better on the OG. Way smaller and more centered. I skipped the bred 4s because of that and I'm kinda on the fence with the 2020 Fire Reds. Didn't pull the trigger yet. Might buy another Fire Red 5 instead and of course the Carmine 6 next year!

[@ogorbust1697]

Fire reds are definitely a step up from black cement. A few details they messed up from black cement but a must have retro for me. Og heel and tab just wider and smaller font, they try centering larger font and smaller tab on the black cement. At least this 2020 fr it is centered better. Still, OG looks the best easily

[@ultimatechrisso6592]

@@ogorbust1697 100%

[@evanbach3924]

Anyone interested in a pair of Jordan 4 Black Cement Original from 1989 with box in a Sz 8? How much would they be worth in used condition? Just an estimate of this pair would be appreciated. Thanks

[@ogorbust1697]

Depends how worn but if clean could fetch 1.5 k

[@kevinlatham8204]

Damn sz 11 that’s my sz I’ve always wanted a og pair

[@jeremyrainwater2175]

Wow!! My fav video of any

[@SampleDeezeNutz]

Doesn’t make sense. Iirc the bc and wc came wit the bubble tag. And they are never going to be able to get the toe box right. Af1 toe box is annoying.

[@jeremyrainwater2175]

Man what a video

[@ogorbust1697]

Thanks for watching!

[@jeremyrainwater2175]

I love em. They look so so great. You literally have the best looking 1989 fire reds left on earth that I've ever seen. Tell u that much. I can't believe my eyes!

[@takispapageorge23mj]

Thank you sir!! 🙏🏼

[@ogorbust1697]

Thanks for watching!!

[@adoremy64]

Dope comparison on the Fire Red 4s bruh. I copped them too but not pleased wit the craftsmanship on them tho.

[@ogorbust1697]

Crap, did you have some quality issues?

[@Funky1ism]

A lot of people do! They really dropped the ball with quality control on this release. Got my pair yesterday from snkrs, right shoe perfect, the left shoe..damn, the leather on the toebox and sidepanels is so creased, your 89 pair looks better then my 2020’s

[@adoremy64]

@@ogorbust1697 Yeah I did. The Black paint on midsoles have Hella brush strokes in em and I see white speckles on the black part of midsoles too. Like they didn't put enuff paint on it to cover the white midsole. 🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️ Reminds me of the 2016 True Blue 3s as far as craftsmanship goes. 🤷🏾‍♂️🤷🏾‍♂️

[@ogorbust1697]

Ah man, so unfortunate. That was another issue I had with 2019 black cements. Paint on midsole looked like woodgrain. 2020 aren't perfect but not as obvious on pairs I grabbed.

[@DammitBobby]

I've seen a lot of variation. My pair is honestly amazing. Did you get yours on the shock drop? Or did you just get them Saturday?

[@technicplay8959]

Can you tell me the difference in weight between the OG and the retro?

[@ogorbust1697]

Very interesting question. I'd say they aren't too far about but will have to weigh them both and see. Good thought!

[@adamw.7169]

Toebox still too tall... that's gonna get more prominent with wear as usual. Wonder if JB will ever get that right!

[@ogorbust1697]

Yeah toe box and where the netting is cut on toe box is my biggest issue. Still a great release.

[@adamw.7169]

@@ogorbust1697 that's true. Progress is still progress!

[@harrybutler98]

makes you wonder with all the 21st century tech , they cant make them exactly like the Ogs ? common JB !

[@kurtasa3884]

The. slim toebox is what creates the DS creasing, so it's never going to get better than this...they could barely pull this off without everyone freaking out.

[@adamw.7169]

@@kurtasa3884 gotta disagree. Shoes will crease no matter what but having a bulbous toe will always have shoes end up looking like clown shoes. The slim toes from the OG shoes never had that problem. Tho I agree people freak out and maybe its a little too nitpicky when people complain about slimmer toes but that's what some of us dream of, having the shoes fit exactly like they did in 1989. If some are ok with them falling a little short, then that's fine too man. Definitely acknowledge the fact they've made HUGE improvements from the 4s from a few years ago though.

[@Phil_T86]

The biggest issues I wish they would change is the heal shape should be narrow (still too wide from the rear) plus the air font on the heal tab is too big. The height of the rear still needs to be higher, and the toe box netting shape. If they fixed them id be happy with the other small details that are off. It would be nice if they went back to the thicker weave shoelaces too.

[@ogorbust1697]

Nike font too large on heel is definitely the issue of centering. OG tab is slightly larger overall and nike branding slightly smaller. If they just raised the height of the shoe in line with the tab it would've been pretty damn close.

[@C0bbler_J0nes]

After seeing this comparison I would have to say that they should start with getting the toe box right.. 🤷🏿‍♂️

[@AllOutNoobHater]

So sad that they couldn’t get these right back then. Nike should have plenty of reference materials on hand to do it right.

[@ogorbust1697]

4s continue to be a let down, wish they'd get the attention the 3s have overhauled

[@AllOutNoobHater]

@@ogorbust1697 I agree. If Nike is actually going to continue with the shape of the SB4s, then that’s going to be huge. The AMM4s got it pretty good, but the SB4s were insanely well shaped.

[@DarthFungHole]

I’ve never liked how the retro’s tongues are so long. If they get the toe shape right, the toe netting the right shape/size and make the tongue the correct length I’d get another pair. Otherwise, they still look odd to my eye.

[@ogorbust1697]

Nothing but the truth said there 💯

[@rubenj2869]

Mane, I got em but the left shoe is different, the stitching of the side panel is higher and the stitching on the back heel right shoe is higher. So disappointed!!😞 Did anybody had this issue? Is crazy to spend 200+ in a shoe and have this issues. Is just unaceptable

[@ogorbust1697]

I've heard so many complaints about the 2020 release, by far more than any release ever I think. Really sad for the amount charged and time we waited for this classic.

[@johnandrew00]

❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@blzing8197]

Love your vids Bro

[@jeremyrainwater2175]

They will never get them right. If we could go back in time then maybe we could expect them too. Wish I would have passed.

[@modicho]

How do they fit? Thinking of copping a pair to wear

[@ogorbust1697]

True to size

[@modicho]

@@ogorbust1697 appreciate it

[@gabyvengeance]

Do you have any other OG's?

[@ogorbust1697]

Plenty! Follow me on Instagram @ogorbust

[@moniquelyy]

Is this the person who copped the size 10 fire red 1989 for $555 on stockX like 3 years ago?

[@ogorbust1697]

Nope, these are size 11

[@jeremyrainwater2175]

Would atleast lace the old ones like the new

[@Tanfo77]

You forgot that OG tongues of III and IVs are shorter compared to the retros, even on the remasters/recent releases. They could never get the exact replica.

[@ogorbust1697]

Yep, very true. I have pointed that out in previous comparisons on my IG account as well.

[@Tanfo77]

@@ogorbust1697 I understand their reasoning to imphasize the display of jumpman logo but the shoe looks imbalanced. They need to stop it.

[@kurtasa3884]

I thought only the black cement was durabuck?

[@ogorbust1697]

Nope, these are durabuck as well as white cement. Military 4 was leather.

[@darnayblue3081]

Most Air Jordans from the 90s that appear leather is actually durabuck with a suede or leather print embossed on top of the material to make it feel and look genuine. Apparently the material was supposedly more durable and easier to clean; however, the pairs with the leather embossed durabuck cracked horribly and didn’t hold up as well as the pairs with the suede embossed durabuck.

[@riton2982]

​@@darnayblue3081 Interesting. Thanks!! I thought that the "durabuk" material was only for the versions with a "nubuck" finish (IV Black Cement, V Black Metallic Sliver, VI Black Infrared, ...). But in the end, durabuck was only the hide side of the iceberg, and NIKE was able to cover it with finishing surface they wanted (like suede look-like, leather look-like, ...). Right?

[@darnayblue3081]

@@riton2982 Exactly.

[@riton2982]

@@darnayblue3081 OK, really interesting information. Thank you. Always good to discover some details like that... :)

[@damienjeremyweir4543]

Clicked on the video, heard guitar music and said to myself, hold up? This isn't MJO23DAN

[@ogorbust1697]

🤣🤣 yeah man, I don't think he plays guitar or owns the OG fire red.

[@owen7185]

Theee were $200 Australian in 89

[@DeathA19]

why dont they just make them similar to how they used to be in 1989 the shape and the overall cut were way superior, whyyy?

[@Koldheart5]

Growing up poor I knew not to ask so not having the best was ok I could crack jokes the best.

[@chitown702]

I agree besides the piss yellow 😂 due to discoloration that O.G is mint

[@ogorbust1697]

🤣 I love the oxidation, like lacquer oxidizing on a guitar. Looks unique

[@chitown702]

@@ogorbust1697 honestly I ALWAYS hated the yellowing even back in the day I always wanted my gym 👟's looking brand new so not knowing what I know now I would bleach them with tooth 🖌's to make them pisser yellow 🤦🏿‍♂️ plus throw all my O.G.'s in garage when they turned beaters whoever 💭 they would be worth hella 💰 in 2020 🤦🏿‍♂️😭

[@Koldheart5]

89 pair still look ok

[@TLricks]

Dope

[@good4mymotor]

Why aren’t the mars 4 worth anything ?

[@ogorbust1697]

All about demand.. og specs more desirable

[@retroesso]

Great video but please change that smoke detector battery

[@ogorbust1697]

🤣 it was our modem I think the problem is fixed, some weird frequency we noticed on some videos couldn't figure out at first

[@fherdiaz5415]

Seems new why it get all cracked ??

[@ogorbust1697]

The 1989 are new and unworn. Over time polyurethane cracks unlike phylon and solid rubber doesn't

[@freebandsviii-ix4754]

Mines came with the black paper in the box

[@ogorbust1697]

Really, interesting!

[@marv730]

I still have mine in my closet from when i was 12 years old . 35 years old and They look like pure 💩 so not sure what to do with them.

[@Glenngabriel1]

Make more vids fooo!

[@ogorbust1697]

Haha will do! 🙌🏻🙏🏻

[@jeremyrainwater2175]

Lace the OG all the way down come on!