1992 Old Top Gear - Coupe Comparison

[@airtec87]

organic style of 90s cars are just timeless.

[@jacobcoopervfx4674]

I agree, especially the Mclaren F1

[@charlespastore4466]

Those days are unfortunately over :(

[@XIXownageXIX]

An Rx-7 is my dream car absolutely love them!

[@NEO36999]

I love Mazda rx-7 ! my fav compact sports car of the 90s.

[@matthewrobinson5077]

MusicMaster9361 It is a very stunning car! It looks match anything made today! Not to mention it performs amazing!

[@accusync69]

that rx7 looks like its from 2013

[@ilikbathif7431]

Disagreed. Cars this beautiful aren't produced anymore.

[@joshbrenner1714]

+i likbathiF lol

[@EpiCrimson]

I think he means that RX7's design that is timeless and still looks modern

[@daytonasayswhat9333]

I had no idea it was designed that long ago. I always though they were early 2000s.

[@TheWHEATISHweet]

The FD RX-7 still looks like a new car.

[@gerarddip]

I wish new cars looked like the FD Lol

[@WhatAreColors]

I love the look and features of that mitsu. But the mazda has probably more potential on the track.

[@fabioaguiar5955]

Probably, but you'd only enjoy that potential for a short ammount of time. The Wankel engines have far greater wear than normal engines.

[@jeanlessage7560]

Rotory engines are quite hit or miss and need proper maintainence but they are brilliant fun to drive because they are very very smooth

[@gnashmelllow]

Fábio Aguiar Rotary engines are reliable, they're just owner sensitive. People who know what they're doing run Rotaries well into the 200,000 plus kilometre range without issue. It's owners who are unfamiliar with them that think they're unreliable.

[@elisorrells5314]

@@fabioaguiar5955 Mitsubishi 3000 also had a lot of problems

[@grosati7877]

20 years later Jeremy has got his foot in his mouth jaguar xj? 3000gt? Flops Rx7 LEGEND

[@airtec87]

he's pro British anything what did you expect?

[@grosati7877]

Hah.

[@689twin]

It was only 5yrs about you could get decent Rx7’s for £7k even 99 specs just over £10k they’re heading for Skyline GTR territory.

[@WhuDhat]

Wouldn't be the first time Haha

[@thetreblerebel]

That's because the Jag and GTO were tech demos and we're very pricey. Rotarys well..are just for it's fans. RX7 was a point and squirt car. Drifters delight. While the Mitsubishi was made for high speed track use. But both had in reliable components..

[@bishbosh8494]

“There’s even an airbag as standard” God I forgot how dangerous cars used to be.... 😂

[@AnthroGearhead]

Unfortunately, the RX7s airbag never been deployed, not becuz its not working or anything but becuz of the likes of street racing, ppl who buys the RX7 would got rid of the factory steering, replacing it with racey type which dont support an airbag, so when they crash, they either die or flew out of the RX7 unless your a police officer or a woman in Japan

[@AnthroGearhead]

@@KS-xo3oh it be funny if a person could get launched out of a RX7, car's cramped af

[@sigmamale4147]

Lol my car doesnt have one, still a good way to die honestly

[@markmarshall39]

surprised the jag started, mazda for me

[@cbdoil4082]

My XJS Always started. I adored that car. And it’s still timeless as ever

[@AndcRew14414]

@@cbdoil4082 No it isn't. It sucks. On the other hand - rotary in mazda needs engine rebuild every 100k miles. So enjoy spending a load of money on any of them.

[@AndcRew14414]

@Thor Odin son Yeah. Easy - did you have a rotary engine, and did you rebuild it? Or are you fucking supid? It is an engine REBUILD! You have to take engine out of a car, and ... what the fuck am I even trying to explain. It is plus-minus like normal engine rebuild. I have watched multiple of videos on this subject - it is NOT EASY.

[@Tubingenstr]

I love this ear of Top Gear. Intelligence, Jeremy was young as I was.

[@vioscios]

I thought the 3000GT was rather reliable, except that timing belt, every 60k, or else. RX-7 was the legendary nightmare, but great chassis.

[@tscooter22]

Legendary nightmare? I've owned mine since it was brand new. The only nightmare is the thought of serious engine work, none that has come up yet. If you don't rice them out like an idiot, they can be very reliable cars. After 90,000 miles, all I've done is brakes, tires and basic maintenance. Problem with the RX7's history is most of the cars were taken over by high schoolers and college kids who beat the ever living shit out of them. :-)

[@vioscios]

tscooter22 I strongly disagree, I'm sure the other parts were adequate, but the engine is what I'm talking about. It was a horrible engine, and the vehicle topped the lemon reports for every production year. Even now, check ebay, etc and see how many of the RX-7s are selling with, BRAND NEW, engine. The thing was a nightmare. An RX-7 was also rather expensive, I doubt it was driven by scores of teenagers, and even if it was, the 3000GT was the same price range and had a rather reliable engine record despite all the, supposed, teenage drivers.

[@tscooter22]

vioscios Those other parts were probably more than adequate, but that doesn't mean they work well as a finished product. Those parts are engineered to "fit" the car, but they were not engineered to work in harmony with Mazda engineers original design. Once you start loading upgrade after upgrade, you might go from a 255 hp car to 500 hp or more! Doing that can create all sorts of problems with not only the engine, but the rest of the drivetrain components as well. Btw, the teenagers I speak of are the ones who bought them on the used market. Horsepower is everything, with lasting effects being the last thing on their minds. You know, kids always thinks bad shit only happens to other people until they actually live and learn. Then they bitch and moan about the car being a piece of shit. So, you keep on touting your BS about unreliable Rotary engines. Ignorance is bliss. I guess they suck so bad that it won Le Mans.

[@Dvoynininc]

tscooter22 :O someone speaking the truth!

[@RallyLancer95]

+tscooter22 Looks like your judgement has been clouded due to the fact that you own one. I'm a mechanic and over the years I've gotten the same consensus with RX-7s the rotary engines USUALLY not always crap out at around 100k miles. The rotary engine is a good idea but flawed, engineering has not perfected them to last extremely long yet due to the design they wear internally very easily. I have heard though Mazda plans to bring back the RX-7 and RX-8 for 2016 and they will be rotary. Who knows maybe Mazda nailed it down and plan to show us. As for RX-7 vs 3K I'm sorry but the 3Ks are just magnificent and better. I've haven't owned either so I'm not one sided, but I have driven both extensively. 3Ks with 4WD and 4WS are just incredible to drive though I would say a Galant VR-4 definitely a better handling car. They last a long time I'm always seeing them in Craigslist with over 200k miles. The 3K VR-4 makes 300 stock and 320 starting in 94 and they're extremely tunable I've seen a 700hp 3K and I'm sure there's some out there with more. But don't worry RX-7s are still fucking awesome cars mainly because you don't see them anymore, while 3Ks still roam the streets more commonly. And let me tell you the Mazda has got looks over the Mitsu any day of the week. Still I'd pick the 3K over the 2. +Dvoynin.inc No I've just told the truth ;)

[@737speedster]

Thumbs up for Clarkson's afro

[@thetreblerebel]

1992...and Clarkson was still that "I Drive a Jaaaag!" Type of person..😎

[@thetreblerebel]

I'd take the 3000GT. It's made for open highways, and high speed race tracks.

[@JerryC25]

I wish the jag didn't start

[@cjscarsandcrap1749]

+harris3693 I mean no offense here, but I will bet you your car that a correctly tuned RX-7 would decimate your Jaguar.

[@cjscarsandcrap1749]

+harris3693 I mean come on, Top Gear did a special in the USA and raced ricers in a Lexus LFA, Viper, and Aston, lost every time.

[@cjscarsandcrap1749]

+harris3693 lol I never said top gear USA. I mean Top Gear: UK did a special in the USA.

[@angelumanzor3083]

Jags don’t start lol.

[@Phoenix_cataclysm_in_2040]

Took them a few takes before it did.

[@bavarianbanshee]

I'm in the US. We got them here but we only got the lower trim levels.

[@tassoss13]

defintly the mazda

[@jaskopdx6342]

I can't belive he said he would have the jag that looks like it was designed in 70s. That jag is freaking ugly next to 3000gt and rx7. I think 3000gt to thus day looks fantastic and rx7 is timeless. I would be embarrassed to say u rather have the jag...

[@TheKenjoje]

'modernity' is only a moment in time, so it shouldn't be related with looks and taste. we are used to taking it for granted bbecause entire industry in the world relies on 'new' as a synonim for 'better'

[@MyManiacGamer]

Jasko CR I'd have the Jag any day, I mean who wouldn't want an XJS

[@slipp3ryslop3]

@@jaskopdx6342 30 years ago it didn't look as dated, especially to someone who had lived with much older looking cars for most of his life.

[@mattmatthews5414]

Love the looks and drive of the fd, but the looks of the XJS seems like- if I had a. $1B/yr income- having a custom tube chassis built under its body & glass, LS+Tremec, and a tastefully done custom interior would be more worthwhile than doing the same with any gen rx7.

[@judethaddaeus9742]

The XJS was designed in the ‘70s, and it’s timeless. The Mitsubishi looks trapped in 1990, and while the RX-7 is gorgeous, its design was a bit derivative of older cars from the ‘60s.

[@DankBoyy00]

I DONT GIVE A FUCK I STILL WANT THE RX7

[@maxeluy]

I love the 3000gt!!

[@rollotomassi8251]

Timeless beauties

[@ihaveacoolhat1]

the golden age of japanese sports cars.

[@tananusin]

13B-REW(rx-7's engine) was the first-ever mass-produced sequential twin-turbocharger system to export from Japan. So Jeremy is right

[@AE86ofMtAkina]

In the USA the highway speed limit is 65mph to 70mph and in the city 45mph, 35 in a school zone and most people on the highway drive at 70-95mph

[@suryathekkath2805]

That varies heavily by location, at least the speed at which most people drive. The USA is a big place, laws are not the same in every state.

[@h0lyhandgrenade]

I owned both a mid 90s RX-7, and a 3000GT VR4. And coincidentally, a 1990 Jaguar XJ6 that was originally my fathers. Guess what car is still alive in my garage today? The Brit. Which if you asked me 25 years ago, I’d have laughed. But here it is looking pristine and new, still running with 187k miles with the typical Jag “marking it’s spot” oil drops on the floor. Worth only about 2-3k in the world. Yet If I could have one of the others two cars today, it would 1000% be the RX-7. Just timeless looking. with a driver first approach. And less cheap plastic and fake vents that plagued mitsubishi. Even in the eclipse and talons. Also had a Turbo Awd one of those. They just either fell apart or age faded even when winter garaged.

[@PeaveyPV20]

A 3000 get would still look good today. Was sure advanced for 1992

[@AnthroGearhead]

Looks and handles better than today Mitsubishi models

[@YourLoyalDeserter]

The RX7 aged so much better.

[@izayoiaifuyu]

Even rotaries that don't get premixed are more reliable than a Jag V12 like that thing

[@TheSpritz0]

Time for a Haircut Jeremy Disco-Boy...

[@Peppermint1]

The Mazda was a motorbike on 4 wheels. But I wonder how did Jeremy fit inside some of those cars. Does he have telescopic legs ?

[@RobertMilat]

My lord does that fd look goood

[@hyperboost8097]

look at that, Jeremy Clarkson many many years ago

[@theardrone1]

RX-7 all the way

[@iambryan1234]

Does the Jag turn? Is the Jag efficient on the fuel? How much turbo lag does it have? Rotary engines are insanely expensive to repair because they're more reliable.

[@mikevanderlinde9027]

Has anyone on earth ever cross shopped am rx7 and an xjs?

[@KanmuriXV30]

He kept saying 3000gt but it's a GTO, although very similar there are differences, love the rx-7 but can't find a decent one for less than £12,000. GTOs are a fifth of the price. I still prefer toyota models tho, I now own an MR2 and have owned Celica's and Supra.

[@georgehgordy1690]

meanwhile the 92 Jag has gone through 5 engines & 4 transmissions & now has a SB Chevy 350 & a Turbo 200-R4..Lol.. That era of Jaguars are sharp cars it's just whenever you seen one it's broke down on the side of the road or sitting at a repair shop with the hood up, and that was right out of the gate..

[@angelumanzor3083]

If only Subaru had twin turbocharged the SVX...

[@AnthroGearhead]

True, a good rival to the 3000GT VR4

[@mattmatthews5414]

If only they’d have sourced a less bad trans from Aisin or ZF.

[@THESocialJusticeWarrior]

7:14 But he looks like an all-night-disco-boy! xD

[@SebWilkes]

Hahahaha true classy Jag beats the bleating lights of the Japanese monster ... Gotta love his style (not biased at all :P )

[@nvrndingsmmr]

What an awesome segment!

[@bf2579]

Both look very gorgeous

[@juankenon]

Is he seriously recommending an XJ-S over two properly built cars? Don't get me wrong, I love the XJ-S and would rather get one than either of these myself, but it was a 15 year old platform with dated styling (which I love) and indifferent build quality, not even in the same league really.

[@tscooter22]

Huh?

[@Phoenix_cataclysm_in_2040]

Whoa... £35k in 1992 when you could buy a 2 bedroom house for £40k. Crazy.

[@dbrxsdgo]

Can't really compare the two, but here we are. RX-7...just beautiful. Also, the 90's "fashion style = 😂😂😂

[@nathansharma87]

That Jag looked like something from 1973. And it's probably turned to sand now.

[@justinmcgill910]

Out of all these i'd take the RX-7 for sure

[@aidanholden3619]

Mazda design, The RX7 and Xedos 6

[@itsajyushimatsufestival1808]

But I think everyone likes to use the FD since it's RWD, which is that cars like an Rx7 is used for drifting, and AWD cars don't seem to drift, but they're good on touges

[@dodgethehell]

Jeremy is wrong. Two turbos are identical in size for the rx7 (he said the secondary is larger).

[@judethaddaeus9742]

Of the two, the RX-7’s styling has held up much better over the last 30 years. However, I’d end up choosing the same car Jeremy did in the end.

[@adamw2911]

You have to remember these reviews are recommending brand new cars. If we're talking reliability then the Jag would have been okay as a new purchase. However for most of us who can't afford to buy new then quality of engineering is a major factor. This is where Japanese cars become major contenders.

[@judethaddaeus9742]

No rotary engine is as reliable long term as Jaguar’s well-sorted AJ6. The Mitsubishi V6 and its turbos and intercoolers wasn’t exactly a Corolla engine, either. You have to remember that Jaguar’s quality and reliability were drastically improved at this point and its technology proven. In general, Japanese cars were more reliable long-term, but not these two.

[@DumpedClutch]

dat rx7

[@emkayean]

What is the blue car at 1:03? MX-5?

[@lusathegreat6300]

If you are still wondering. Yes

[@TekkenBones]

Does anyone remember in the 90s, you could go to a used car dealership, and there would be INTERESTING cheap sports cars/coupes for sale? And you'd spend time pondering over which sports car was better? That feeling has completely disappeared today.... You look at the dealership stock, and its ALL just hatchbacks or SUVs, and they all look the same... So sad :-(

[@leo3k]

Oh okay.. I'm assuming the ae86 was never sold there. Where are you from?

[@NakulDalakoti]

The legend is that RX-7 is LS swapped.

[@dodgethehell]

He said it wrong on the FD. Two turbos are identical not one big one small.

[@iambryan1234]

And in this case, the XJS' engine wears out faster. And fuel efficiency IS important if you're going around the track as less fuel means better power/weight ratios as there is less fuel to bog the car down.

[@judethaddaeus9742]

The XJS engine didn’t wear out nearly as fast as the RX-7 and its apex seals. Or the 3000GT and its myriad turbos and intercoolers. By this point, Jaguar’s quality and reliability woes had largely been fixed, and the AJ6 engine was well sorted.

[@DavidicusVH]

Given the choice between the 3 cars, I'd choose the FD. As far as reliability goes, that all depends on what you now about maintenace. The Jaguar and the FD have both aged well and their prices are still high. The GTO is a common old sportscar and is boring imho. My Rx-7(FC3S) is running strong at 168,xxx+ mind you this is my original engine. Some think the Jaguar is classy, and it is, but not everyone is going to want the classiest car. It's whatever you're passionate about.

[@alexbrewer4570]

Definitely the RX-7. It's like a little hardtop Miata that holds its value and has two turbos. Also, who would want an old dodge stealth?

[@Kurtiskurtical]

It’s nothing like a Miata.

[@aqulex84]

That Hair and clothes just suit Jeremy very much :D ;). Ohh boy.. How long ago it is

[@tscooter22]

The Jag isn't in the same class. It's not even close! Why in the Hell would he bring that up? Weird.

[@stinger15au]

+harris3693 true. but it looks extremely dated compared to the other 2 here

[@МаксПреображенский-ы3у]

If you'd watched more episodes, you would notice they'd done it all the time -- recommended some English garbage as a "superior" choice (for example, if it's an off-road test of Japanese/German cars, then, with ~99.9% probability, you can expect Land Rover recommendation at the end of the test).

[@fitfogey]

Turn the RX7 a/c on and you suddenly have 150HP. Check back after 50K miles and see if the engine still has compression. Mine threw an apex seal out the turbo and killed both the engine and one of the turbos.

[@Blind_5]

Beating a dead horse, but they are not expensive, not at all actually. About $1100 for a rebuild kit or a shop will do it for about 1600-1800. Reliability, well that comes down to how you take care of the vehicle, just a couple reliability mods and its good. I've had mine for over 200 thousand miles and only the only issue I had was a flat tire. If people knew how to take care of them then they wouldn't have a reputation. BTW my daily is a 1994 Rx-7, and she is still running great.

[@bavarianbanshee]

pfft, I wish. It's my favorite car in the world but, unfortunately, I don't have the money to buy one. Someday, I'm going to have one imported though.

[@bavarianbanshee]

It's not V12 vs Rotary. It's XJS V12 vs RX7 Rotary. I was done with this argument 4 months ago. Have fun at the side of the road.

[@discozula4469]

The RX7 had two identical sized turbos. The system just did not work to make the change over smooth.

[@DoritoPope003]

they're not inherently expensive, its the cost of trying to find someone who can actually fix them. at least here in the midwest. Youd have to go clear to chicago to find someone to repair a rotary engine.

[@RevengeofGothzilla]

V12 > Rotary engine. END OF STORY. Also the Jag is about $6000 cheaper than the RX7. Did I mention that rotary engines are INSANELY expensive to repair? Good luck fixing it when it breaks.

[@04prox2]

RX7- pos rotary + LSx = win

[@bruceccorwin]

Did he receive a salary from Jaguar?

[@horse5407]

Cruise control and air conditioning were considered “toys” back then. 😂

[@GForceVRX]

Both are brilliant machines but I prefer the 3000gt

[@tahirshalmani]

Top gear will not be the same without clarckson. Come on jezzza go and sign that deal with ITV to teach those bafoons at BBC a lesson.

[@jackcurtis9002]

I like the RX7. But come on, that 3000GT is fantastic. :D (And the Jag is uninteresting.)

[@LawrenceTimme]

i would have to get a later model vr4 twin turbo manual one though

[@LawrenceTimme]

how can you be a fanboy of engines

[@Epso4Real]

Its funny how these 2 were once the same price

[@K2APX]

Wow Jeremy sounds different.

[@themaskedeconomist8404]

Disco boy is right Jeremy :) eurobeat intensifies

[@geforce5700fx]

Jaguar XJS over the RX7 ? Trolololo ! Ready to break down !

[@liquid0001Squadalaxd]

Fuck. That Rx7 it's gonna be a insanely expensive to get the time goes on.

[@RevengeofGothzilla]

Yeah, sure pal, because it really matters THAT MUCH. Spoiler: IT DOESN'T! Just give it a bigger gas tank and ramp up the torque to compensate, and if it bugs you that much, reduce the weight and tweak the aerodynamics, but my points still stand, the Jag is far cheaper to buy, cheaper to fix, more powerful, faster, and safer. And you can't disprove that last one. The RX7 is a mobile deathtrap compared to the XJS.

[@bliglum]

"I recon, it looks like an E type jag"... Hahaha!!! That RX7 looked nothing like an E type! If anything, it looked like a Viper. It was short and squat, with heavily sculpted, muscular curves. The Jag E type was long and lean, with smooth, flowing curves. Clarkson was one of the most biased automotive journalists/presenters I've ever seen. He always leaned heavily toward Jags and Land Rovers.. Fitting then, that he ended up doing silly presentations, and he was good for that. Because a serious and unbiased journalist he was not.

[@ducatx9644]

that car was created before the viper was the viper got the roof line from the rx7

[@bliglum]

Sean Wilhite You're right, the earliest vipers were roadsters..

[@darkeyce02]

i dont like gt's but i like rx's. but id rather have the gt as far as tuning and power go.

[@LegacyIvyTerascale]

doesnt matter which is best as long as one is british

[@eriks586]

You're all gonna hate me for this but i'd have the jag. More style, fantastic engine, very refined car. Whenever I drive Japanese cars I always feel disappointed and that they're lacking quality and soul.I do love the rx-7 though.

[@syedasim6666]

I think top gear runs through Range Rover and jaguars.

[@Eastside-MTB]

ahhh the days where your airbags are an option

[@snoriarseniev5558]

Every comment : RX7

[@peterwyattmiddleton]

thanks

[@xxxSpetnaz]

The us never go the 3000gt with the aero package :/ so definitely the Mazda was the one to buy

[@mdjmurray]

1:15 Those trousers!!

[@RevengeofGothzilla]

Bitch, please. V12 engine, classy British looks, not to mention in a crash it won't disintegrate like the Mazda and Mitsubishi.

[@hugonubario]

it was a good joke! I never heard good thing about jag except for comfort! damn that was good it makes my day!

[@bricksstacks2793]

Timeless body styled🥰

[@iambryan1234]

Go to Japan's C1 loopway and say that again.

[@pursuinginsanity]

No, they aren't, and you've been told why. 150-500 mile tow bills are not cheap, neither is the mechanic who sees a gold mine in front of him. If you're suggesting the car needs an entire engine/trans swap from another company entirely and that this is an acceptable solution, why buy the damn thing in the first place? FFS, I could say "a base model 'New Beetle' is INCREDIBLE! ..just put a WRX STi engine in there and you've got a great car." Do you see how stupid that sounds, now?

[@TheAravindtop]

A/C and Cruise Control are toys you can play with in a traffic jam? Wat.