[1M] CSX Train Goes into Emergency with Two Scary Bangs, Hull - Auburn GA, 09/24/2015 ©mbmars01

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@ronaldcarson4360
@ronaldcarson4360 5 жыл бұрын
I was surprised, how quick it came to a stop.
@TheNemosdaddy
@TheNemosdaddy 5 жыл бұрын
empty aluminum cars at slow speed
@abrahammatthewanandamarro4352
@abrahammatthewanandamarro4352 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheNemosdaddy but thinking how much that cars waste
@spvillano
@spvillano 5 жыл бұрын
@@abrahammatthewanandamarro4352 guess they should dispose of them, then wonder where replacements will come from. Maybe, China. Oh wait, tariffs... Do more with less, eventually dwindling down to nothing, locomotives patrol, looking for an aluminum car, fuel costs bankrupt the railroad, back to horses or sea. If UHaul though that way, they'd no longer exist, beyond a local area. They learned from the rail system. As a hint, some cars can weigh 100 tons or more, loaded, do you really think it costs that much to shuttle them to where they can be refilled again?
@Evantheplaneguy
@Evantheplaneguy 5 жыл бұрын
Saftey at its finest
@fostoriadistrictrailfan3907
@fostoriadistrictrailfan3907 4 жыл бұрын
i know
@Elfnetdesigns
@Elfnetdesigns 8 жыл бұрын
Train crews are people too, they gotta eat like the rest of us..
@mbmars01
@mbmars01 8 жыл бұрын
+ElfNet Gaming Absolutely! ;)
@jamesdunn8893
@jamesdunn8893 6 жыл бұрын
that's right
@westernparailfaner2612
@westernparailfaner2612 6 жыл бұрын
Elfnet my man how's the server going?
@jamesdunn8893
@jamesdunn8893 6 жыл бұрын
Western PA Railfaner sup people ?
@jaysmith1408
@jaysmith1408 6 жыл бұрын
Local shortline has to merge with or cross the main line down in a nearby valley, train frequently held for extended periods, when they were down there, i'd bring 'em coffees, or if i got time, a bite to eat.
@BenjaminEsposti
@BenjaminEsposti 8 жыл бұрын
Go to 6:04 and watch the cars closely (affix your eye on one spot on the car, like a wheel, etc..) ... you can see them lurch forward when the bang is heard. That's slack :P
@Victor-xt5ch
@Victor-xt5ch 6 жыл бұрын
Benjamin Esposti true, but the first one was something else
@usig00
@usig00 5 жыл бұрын
First one was a broken coupler and the second was just slack action.
@general5104
@general5104 5 жыл бұрын
Benjamin Esposti yup
@spvillano
@spvillano 5 жыл бұрын
Dated, but yeah, lost slack, then slack tightening due to emergency. But, some other speculation suggested a broken coupler, no, not enough slack to engage breaks, triggering emergency. Looked more like a locomotive emergency and modes were switched until equipment could replace the failed unit, which would now be dead load. There was a pause in traction, followed by a surge, triggering the first bang as slack was lost and regained before slack was regained, then enough loss of traction to give a lower bang of traction loss and train rammed into itself and engine at a lower speed. A air hose burp wouldn't go anywhere near that, broken coupler would halt that part of the train, necessitate a jog down the train, jog back to replace a knuckle or subsidiary equipment that is user replaceable, then proceed onward. More sever, you're talking about more weight than two men could be reasonably expected to carry for any properly decent sized consist, which would immobilize the train for a lengthy period of time.
@SnowColdGarage
@SnowColdGarage 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah if a knuckle broke then there would be too much tension on the air line hose and it would for sure break or snap meaning all pressure in the line would be lost resulting in (A the brakes be engaged due to the Loss in pressure but if you don't know that's just how train brakes work (the trains computer would have recognized the Lost pressure suddenly without the interference or input of a driver therefore putting it into emergency And since the rear half is just kind of on its own after all that broke it would just slam into the back of the other car in front of it because the front half would be an emergency breaking (GOD THAT WAS ALOT I NEED TO RUN MY MOUTH LESS)
@waldwickperson
@waldwickperson 9 жыл бұрын
2 bangs were slack action. Happens all the time. Usually, that means they broke a knuckle when it goes into emergency like this. That smoke you mention was the heat coming off the cars. Usual stuff. Nice video!
@mbmars01
@mbmars01 9 жыл бұрын
+waldwickperson Thank you! I really don't know what it was, but it was louder than what I've ever heard from any other train before.
@waldwickperson
@waldwickperson 9 жыл бұрын
If the engineer throws it in Notch 8, or full brake application (without going into emergency), the slack action can get pretty rough lol
@mbmars01
@mbmars01 9 жыл бұрын
+waldwickperson I understand. The only thing I wonder about is that the train was still accelerating when the 'bang' happened, and the braking came thereafter. Furthermore, there was no reason for an emergency braking, as far as I can tell (that an emergency braking was performed I learned from the communication between crew and dispatcher).
@waldwickperson
@waldwickperson 9 жыл бұрын
Ah ok. If it was on a grade, the tail end of the train probably caught up with the cars, and pushed them more than the engines pulling them
@BenjaminEsposti
@BenjaminEsposti 8 жыл бұрын
+waldwickperson I wonder if any derailments have happened that way. Unfortunately I can't think of any way to implement an easy to use (and reliable) safety system that would prevent that ... (plus it would require changing the braking effort ... so yeah if something goes wrong the brakes might not be strong enough to stop quickly enough in certain circumstances... lol)
@TTVhadjsnsakjldnfsdjk
@TTVhadjsnsakjldnfsdjk 5 жыл бұрын
15:20 that’s a special engine! That’s the spirit of Cincinnati! CSX #5500
@kermit5079
@kermit5079 2 жыл бұрын
Yessir
@scottpurcell8833
@scottpurcell8833 5 жыл бұрын
The conversation to the dispatcher told me all I need to know. I used to work on that sub division as an engineer. There was no mechanical issue. That was full cya. Anyone who runs trains know exactly what happened but I dont wanna get that crew in trouble. They are good guys, they just had a lapse.
@josephschnoor315
@josephschnoor315 5 жыл бұрын
What was it then
@scottpurcell8833
@scottpurcell8833 5 жыл бұрын
@@josephschnoor315 lets just say... they were not supposed to go over 15 mph and able to stop in the half of range of vision... they were up to 25mph at one point and when they realized that.. they went to dynamics and the sudden run in of cars while going into dynamics really hard cause it to shoot the air. if you notice, the conductor told the dispatcher that they never got much more than 10mph. also... at the end, they are going into the siding of palmer yard which is where the Trainmaster (aka boss man) is stationed. you can hear him calling them to stop at the office. When they went into emergency, the Erad told on them and the speed was seen, which wasn't a big deal because it doesn't say what signal you had, but when the dispatcher was called and asked what signal they had, he had to tell the TM that they had permission by the red signal which ment restricted speed. So needless to say... they got ran off for speeding and after the download, they would have seen that the times do not match up from when they started moving after the emergency application and when they talked to the dispacther. He was supposed to tell them if its ok to move or not. they moved without asking so now they have 2 major violations against them. also, you can not go over 10mph after an emergency application until your entire train has cleared that area. there are so many rules that are in place that its easy to miss something especially when you are in a panic like they were. they were trying to hide it and hope that nothing was looked at in depth.
@josephschnoor315
@josephschnoor315 5 жыл бұрын
@@scottpurcell8833 oh ok. Thanks for replying
@Anthony_in_Bloomington_Indiana
@Anthony_in_Bloomington_Indiana 4 жыл бұрын
Scott, what does cya mean?
@Xterraforce
@Xterraforce 4 жыл бұрын
Cover your a$$.
@carolinarailfanning
@carolinarailfanning 6 жыл бұрын
4:39 the humming the cars do is very soothing and the bearings rotating is satisfying to watch.
@mbmars01
@mbmars01 6 жыл бұрын
Lol
@amarillotexrails18
@amarillotexrails18 5 жыл бұрын
XD
@MatHelm
@MatHelm 7 жыл бұрын
5:50 everyone.... And it's just a low thud...
@Victor-xt5ch
@Victor-xt5ch 6 жыл бұрын
Mat Helm that aint no low thud tf
@randombruh3033
@randombruh3033 5 жыл бұрын
Victor Right? Sounded like an explosion lol
@kennethhunt248
@kennethhunt248 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@rickfrank7934
@rickfrank7934 5 жыл бұрын
no that was pretty freakin loud.
@braaapattack2937
@braaapattack2937 5 жыл бұрын
camera did that zero justice, that thud would have been louder then all hell in person, i use to work next to a railroad (my shop garage door was about 50 feet at most from the tracks) and had a train do an emergency stop like that, it was mid summer and the shop doors were wide open, i literally ran the other direction thinking the train was about to derail
@Steez51
@Steez51 5 жыл бұрын
When the second bang happened it sprung the engine/cars forward
@noaht7778
@noaht7778 5 жыл бұрын
Slack
@the_road__warrior6185
@the_road__warrior6185 5 жыл бұрын
For some reason, After working all day. These train videos Iv stumbled upon make it easy to decompress from a 6 day work week.
@mbmars01
@mbmars01 5 жыл бұрын
I know what you mean. That's probably the reason why I enjoy the hobby this much. It frees one's mind from the daily troubles.
@the_road__warrior6185
@the_road__warrior6185 5 жыл бұрын
mbmars01 Call me weird but trains move like majestic elephants, So big can be real quiet at times.
@plunceford
@plunceford 8 жыл бұрын
From what I can gather from the radio communication, they were expecting to get permission to pass a stop signal. When they didn't get permission, they hit the dynamic, which caused the all-at-once slack action (bangs). Or the dynamic was activated for them. The dispatcher was asking if it came back up afterward. Then he told them to "keep on movin' according to the rules." Maybe I'm misinterpreting this, but it makes sense.
@plunceford
@plunceford 8 жыл бұрын
The radio communication in question is at 8:45.
@mbmars01
@mbmars01 8 жыл бұрын
+Patrick Lunceford That may make perfect sense. When filming, I can't pay much attention to the chatter on the radio and in the hindsight I wasn't really sure about it (I'm not an expert, don't know the procedures and rules). Thanks for trying to figure it out!
@thelonelytrucker9317
@thelonelytrucker9317 5 жыл бұрын
Yup. They said they had to hit dynamic when they didn't get permission at the stop signal. Listen closely
@AssGoblin
@AssGoblin 4 жыл бұрын
Look for the comment from Scott Purcell. He sums it up similarly to this, as I believe he mentions that he used to work this line. Good observation, though!
@celeste7233
@celeste7233 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent footage. I love how you incorporate the audio from the scanner!
@mbmars01
@mbmars01 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! I have the scanner typically close to me to avoid missing information while filming. So it's rather accidental that the chatter is in the video, but I also like it. It gives the videos a human touch.
@celeste7233
@celeste7233 5 жыл бұрын
mbmars01 yes it does give it that human touch. Plus it’s almost like we’re there. It makes the videos top shelf 👍
@eddielowe5174
@eddielowe5174 7 жыл бұрын
At 6:20 you can see Maintenance of Way has a warning board set up. From the radio traffic, train didn't get permission in time to enter the work order (Rule 707). Everything else was slack from breaking to hard.
@hoghead134
@hoghead134 5 жыл бұрын
wrong
@SACWarrior70s
@SACWarrior70s 5 жыл бұрын
joey branan What was wrong Joey. Sounds like the gentlemen knows what he's talking about by what he's written....Your reply is just plain NON-SUPPORTIVE OF ITS SELF REASONING! SO YOU'RE "WRONG!"
@loganbaileysfunwithtrains606
@loganbaileysfunwithtrains606 7 жыл бұрын
This seems to happen to GEs in sets higher than two, it always seems to kick on the emergency brake, never seen it happen as frequently on EMDs, not saying ones better but it's always GE from U-boats to GEVOs
@daveyburgess
@daveyburgess 8 жыл бұрын
Cause of the stop? Driver dropped that fresh cup of hot coffee in his lap!! :D
@robertshawiii4117
@robertshawiii4117 7 жыл бұрын
Sounds like the lady at McDonalds. Who is he going to sue?
@KyleBusch4Ever8
@KyleBusch4Ever8 7 жыл бұрын
Robert Shaw III good joke. good joke.
@redc44-9w3
@redc44-9w3 7 жыл бұрын
oof
@themanfromcabowabo1559
@themanfromcabowabo1559 2 жыл бұрын
I went to google earth to find Hull siding. GE dropped me right on top of the Baptist church. 😂 I feel like I’m an honorary member because of all the times I’ve seen it in a mbmars01 video.
@mbmars01
@mbmars01 2 жыл бұрын
Lol, that's funny :) However, I have certainly railfanned less in Hull than I did years ago - at least on that spot at the south end of the siding, which is right next to the church.
@JosephCee
@JosephCee 6 жыл бұрын
Wow those bangs were huge. It rocked the entire train. Random thought, what if while the train was stopped you just saw a bunch of taggers run up to it and start painting while they had the chance xD
@whatabouttheearth
@whatabouttheearth 5 жыл бұрын
A. Thats common, it seems like it was slack. Ive been on trains that did worse stuff than that. Especially CSX, they can be janky. B. Taggers find trains that are chilling in a spot all night, graffiti takes time, especially the good pieces.
@Whoflungpouu
@Whoflungpouu 5 жыл бұрын
Those people who tag trains like that could make a killing if they actually painted for a living
@ashevilletrainman6989
@ashevilletrainman6989 6 жыл бұрын
Engineer: Hey gimme a can of the Fanta I told you to get. Conductor: um..... Engineer: *Slams brake* GET YO BUTT BACK THERE NOW
@mbmars01
@mbmars01 6 жыл бұрын
Lol
@BLACKVIKNGS88
@BLACKVIKNGS88 5 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@alexandrelacerda75
@alexandrelacerda75 5 жыл бұрын
Asheville Trainman Fanta orange or grape?
@entityz0mbi3
@entityz0mbi3 5 жыл бұрын
Eastern Iowa Productions childish
@Ewimer21
@Ewimer21 5 жыл бұрын
LOL🤣🤣🤣
@CenturyOakWindStar
@CenturyOakWindStar 8 жыл бұрын
Ah, I completely relate. That guy realized he forgot to get something to drink with his sandwich at the store. "HOLD IT! I can't eat with no water!" when you forget your drinks, you gotta go back. B)
@mbmars01
@mbmars01 8 жыл бұрын
Well that's definitely a possible plot for this story lol.
@ThatBoyWithAJeepLibertyRenegad
@ThatBoyWithAJeepLibertyRenegad 5 жыл бұрын
At 15:25 did anyone notice the spirit of Cincinnati was the second unit?
@BmdZero
@BmdZero 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah!
@railfan220
@railfan220 9 жыл бұрын
BTW, great video! The actual video quality is perfect, and you found some great angles to shoot. -Cam
@mbmars01
@mbmars01 9 жыл бұрын
+railfan220 I'm glad you like it. Thanks!
@TEDavis
@TEDavis 5 жыл бұрын
How funny, I completely forgot some types of engines have an entry door at it's front?
@christopherdawson9570
@christopherdawson9570 4 жыл бұрын
And in those types of trains with the nose cabins like that is where the penitentiary style shitter ...........and emergency flares are 😆😆😆😋
@cyclingzealot
@cyclingzealot 5 жыл бұрын
What aspect is the lower one at 19:13 ? Green or white? Since there are only two, it has to be interpreted as there was a third red one at the bottom. Thus the signal reads medium clear, no?
@cyclingzealot
@cyclingzealot 5 жыл бұрын
My mistake. Doesn't seem like CROR has that kind of signal, only US.
@mbmars01
@mbmars01 5 жыл бұрын
That's indeed white. It means the train can pass by the red signal at restricted speed (restricted speed is sufficiently slow so that the engineer can stop the train immediately without performing an emergency braking). It typically means that another train is right ahead of him on the same track in the same block.
@BoxcarJerry
@BoxcarJerry 5 жыл бұрын
Stuff like this makes you rethink standing close to the tracks while a train comes by, especially at speed.
@mbmars01
@mbmars01 5 жыл бұрын
One should always have an escape route in case of an emergency... In this case, there was no dangerous situation.
@spvillano
@spvillano 5 жыл бұрын
@@mbmars01 train at speed, things go *seriously* sideways, like derailment of laden hopper cars and assorted other projectile generators, escape had better be by rocket, if one is close, as in rock throwing distance close.
@slapyousilly1305
@slapyousilly1305 7 жыл бұрын
OMG! They always bang like that in an emergency stop. Heard it all my life.
@mbmars01
@mbmars01 7 жыл бұрын
Hope you aren't deaf now because of these loud bangs lol.
@spvillano
@spvillano 5 жыл бұрын
@@mbmars01 eh? What'd you say? ;)
@jeffmech600
@jeffmech600 5 жыл бұрын
5:45 your welcome
@arkie74
@arkie74 5 жыл бұрын
jus' bunching up threw the slack.... same as when they take off fast... thats even louder.
@Prionel
@Prionel 8 жыл бұрын
Wonderful photography! Thanks for posting.
@mbmars01
@mbmars01 8 жыл бұрын
+Prionel Cool, thank you. Glad you like it.
@hoofkantoor5532
@hoofkantoor5532 6 жыл бұрын
Remenber for every 10 trucks there is one meter play between the buffers for example 50 trucks = 5 meter play when the train is bundled
@bearbon2
@bearbon2 8 жыл бұрын
Why are there 2 air lines between the cars? Or is it one brake line and another line to operate the bottom dump doors? Just curious. You can see the lines well at 4:41
@mbmars01
@mbmars01 8 жыл бұрын
+bearbon2 Sorry, I don't know the answer.
@mikeday62
@mikeday62 7 жыл бұрын
I think it hit a penny on the tracks, or maybe it was a nickel which explains the loud banging. Those nickels are kind of thick.
@carolinarailfanning
@carolinarailfanning 6 жыл бұрын
Uh no I think an air hose popped and the bang was slack in the couplers when the cars shoved forwards due to the rear weight pushing the front trying to stop.
@4rdF1Hunny
@4rdF1Hunny 5 жыл бұрын
Nah, a nickel would have derailed the whole thing...
@joeleewoods1382
@joeleewoods1382 5 жыл бұрын
brettwrb not true
@4rdF1Hunny
@4rdF1Hunny 5 жыл бұрын
@@joeleewoods1382 Are you sure? 🙄
@docilehostile
@docilehostile 5 жыл бұрын
brettwrb There’s no way. A single locomotive weighs wayyyyy too much for a coin to affect it, much less a full train. You can always try it for yourself next time your near one though. It’s pretty fun actually
@kenmelrac
@kenmelrac 8 жыл бұрын
No broken knuckle, no broken air, though the conductor does mention "dynamic" in radio conversation t around 8:50 mark. It sounds like dynamic braking kicked in, reset and released. First bang, dynamic engaged, second when dynamic released and slack taken back up.
@jamespurks1694
@jamespurks1694 8 жыл бұрын
kenmelrac What may have caused the smoke?
@kenmelrac
@kenmelrac 8 жыл бұрын
First bang occurred when a locomotive dynamic brakes kicked in slowing the one locomotive but not the cars (slack in knuckles). Second bang occurred when dynamics released (see blended braking). Once the dynamic brakes released, the governor would dump fuel to speed the engine back up to the throttle setting, while the engineer was likely taking the throttle to idle. Smoke could possibly be excess fuel or even dust shaken loose from all the slack action.
@robertmcgregor1514
@robertmcgregor1514 5 жыл бұрын
I will say it again great vid great comments and you are an excellent cameraman mbmars01 I love your work
@mbmars01
@mbmars01 5 жыл бұрын
Many thanks. I really appreciate your nice feedback.
@loadpin
@loadpin 4 жыл бұрын
Sure miss seeing the caboose bringing up the rear.
@michaelschultz5127
@michaelschultz5127 4 жыл бұрын
You got that right friend
@RPMHobbies
@RPMHobbies 2 жыл бұрын
Slack action on the coupler that grade was 5 percent down and 5 percent up u will get that loud bang especially when your not loaded the cars were empty by the sound keep your vids coming love watching them
@agwbcfjc2
@agwbcfjc2 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome camera work. Getting up close and personal. Thanx mb!!
@mbmars01
@mbmars01 5 жыл бұрын
Many thanks. I appreciate your feedback!
@pravinchandran5959
@pravinchandran5959 5 жыл бұрын
'Twas Doc Brown throwing in the presto logs
@noahhaley0640
@noahhaley0640 4 жыл бұрын
Lol
@SleeTheSloth
@SleeTheSloth 8 жыл бұрын
Nice video! It was like getting a day of rail fanning in with out leveeing the shop. It was a slow day and not a customer in the place most of the day. Thanks :)
@mbmars01
@mbmars01 8 жыл бұрын
+SleeTheSloth Haha, I like it. I have many more videos on my channel for more slow days lol.
@StandardGaugeRailroader
@StandardGaugeRailroader 8 жыл бұрын
AWESOME VIDEO BRO!!! Those BANGS were scary, but the bangs were the couplers I think. All I can say is wow. This video, in case you're wondering on how I found this video, came up on my recommended slot.
@mbmars01
@mbmars01 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much. Yep, that's definitely interesting to know how people find my videos. Now that you found the channel - there are 250 more videos that you might like :)
@StandardGaugeRailroader
@StandardGaugeRailroader 8 жыл бұрын
mbmars01 Bro, I've been with your channel for a while. I subscribe you
@mbmars01
@mbmars01 8 жыл бұрын
Awesome, thanks!
@Trex1094
@Trex1094 8 жыл бұрын
Standard Gauge Railroader the first bang was likely from the slack that caused the initial emergency; prolly got a knuckle with that. That second bang was simply the front half of the separated train stopped quicker than the rear therefore slamming into the front section. That's what I gathered from it
@TheShoocks
@TheShoocks 5 жыл бұрын
11:05 you don’t want something falling ...
@donttrollonme2583
@donttrollonme2583 6 жыл бұрын
Damn that bang must of been terrifying Especially if it were me by that train because I get really nervous around trains
@mbmars01
@mbmars01 6 жыл бұрын
The bangs were very loud. They were indeed terrifying as I didn't know what was going on.
@trainwatcher411
@trainwatcher411 7 жыл бұрын
Love when you take pictures of the trucks and the track
@mbmars01
@mbmars01 7 жыл бұрын
I also like to see such details.
@jaredklock8754
@jaredklock8754 9 жыл бұрын
Nice Video, hey do you know any good spots to railfan in Augusta, GA?
@mbmars01
@mbmars01 9 жыл бұрын
+Jared Klock Thanks! Unfortunately I'm not too familiar with Augusta. One nice spot is the bridge over the river, but I have never seen a train crossing it when I was there. To find really nice spots requires a lot of time of searching and Augusta is too far from where I live to systematically locate the best places for train watching. But there should be some videos by people from that area on youtube.
@jaredklock8754
@jaredklock8754 9 жыл бұрын
mbmars01 Thanks, I'll look into that
@patrickoguinn4553
@patrickoguinn4553 5 жыл бұрын
Did the crew forget about the form B ahead and put the train in emergency?
@signalpops
@signalpops 5 жыл бұрын
Yes. That is what I think happened. He passed the yellow red board then he big holes his train. Skack action was the second bang. Then you can hear him get clearance on the radio. In my opinion.
@usersatch
@usersatch 5 жыл бұрын
Slack sounds like an artillery round? Or is the mic just making it sound worse than it is?
@mbmars01
@mbmars01 5 жыл бұрын
No, I still think the first bang was more than just slack.
@dannyhaley7610
@dannyhaley7610 7 жыл бұрын
what is the gray box with the solar panel beside the tracks?whats that for?
@sgtgrash
@sgtgrash 5 жыл бұрын
I'm curious, what is causing the hum from the truck bogies?
@mbmars01
@mbmars01 5 жыл бұрын
I guess what you mean are flat spots on the wheels that make such noise.
@EyebrowsMahoney
@EyebrowsMahoney 5 жыл бұрын
The hum is from the bearings going out. It can get quite loud sometimes! The clunking is from the wheel flat spots.
@sgtgrash
@sgtgrash 5 жыл бұрын
@@EyebrowsMahoney Ah thanks. I'm familiar with the flat-spot thump but the hum/whine thing is new to me, it almost sounds as if the bogies are powered lol
@sowegarailproductions4089
@sowegarailproductions4089 9 жыл бұрын
Nice video I love how you caught the spirit of Cincinnati!!!!!
@mbmars01
@mbmars01 9 жыл бұрын
+kevin butler Haha, do you know what? I haven't even noticed it yet. I was so much concerned with the emergency train that I didn't pay much attention to Q662. You're right! I'm happy I caught it! Thanks for pointing this out.
@sowegarailproductions4089
@sowegarailproductions4089 9 жыл бұрын
+mbmars01 those bangs were loud what happened
@mbmars01
@mbmars01 9 жыл бұрын
+kevin butler Well, I don't know. I heard these bangs, then saw blue smoke in the distance about a mile away. I walked straight there (my car was on the other side of the train that blocked the crossing!), but when I arrived near the engines, the train started slowly moving again. Inspecting the outside of the engines when I met the train later again, I didn't see anything suspicious. Since I saw blue smoke initially after the bangs, it might have been burning lube oil that caused a blow (in the turbo charger?), but I didn't see any fire.
@trainzexpress5349
@trainzexpress5349 9 жыл бұрын
+kevin butler What is the spirit of Cincinnati?
@sowegarailproductions4089
@sowegarailproductions4089 9 жыл бұрын
csx 5500
@GT-fb8nv
@GT-fb8nv 8 жыл бұрын
Just slack running in is all. You can even see it the second time. Retired BN.
@osrr6422
@osrr6422 8 жыл бұрын
Yup. Slack action. It dumped towards the front of the train which caused the rear end to run in.
@jeffreyhueseman7061
@jeffreyhueseman7061 6 жыл бұрын
Empties are notoriously loud when it comes to slack action.
@billsmotrilla6215
@billsmotrilla6215 5 жыл бұрын
That was a really fast emergency stop as far as trains go.
@majorwoody1720
@majorwoody1720 4 жыл бұрын
What model was the lead loco?
@dsmith3818
@dsmith3818 5 жыл бұрын
Why are there two hoses between the hoppers? I've also seen that on some GGPX coal hoppers.
@mbmars01
@mbmars01 5 жыл бұрын
These are air hoses and they are part of the air brake system for the entire train. One broken hose is enough to make the entire train stop. All cars and engines have those hoses.
@dsmith3818
@dsmith3818 5 жыл бұрын
@@mbmars01 Thanks! But why two air brake hoses?
@theamericanrailfan1071
@theamericanrailfan1071 8 жыл бұрын
This happened on my sub down here in Texas. KCS de Mexico with BNSF trailing had a unit train of fracking sand and they were at speed and the same damn thing happened. I thought they hit something at first and then they just puttered away, 10 minutes later.
@mbmars01
@mbmars01 8 жыл бұрын
Were the hoppers loaded or empty?
@theamericanrailfan1071
@theamericanrailfan1071 8 жыл бұрын
mbmars01 Empty. They were on their way to a quarry to get loaded.
@mbmars01
@mbmars01 8 жыл бұрын
The American Railfan That's what I thought and why I asked. The slack effect is much more impressive if the hoppers are empty and amplify the sound by resonance.
@sunray8136
@sunray8136 5 жыл бұрын
I saw a train stop for a malt at DQ!! A guy came blasting out of dairy queen booking across the highway as fast as he could go and hopped up into the waiting train....was a funny sight.
@Just22Jas33
@Just22Jas33 5 жыл бұрын
I just saw a BNSF train park next to a Church's chicken in Cameron TX. Pretty odd
@sunray8136
@sunray8136 5 жыл бұрын
@@Just22Jas33 I suppose those dudes gotta get their fast food fix too at times! Lol
@WyattLuschen
@WyattLuschen 3 жыл бұрын
That first bang was so loud! I jumped when I first heard it... maybe because my volume is always cranked up
@mbmars01
@mbmars01 3 жыл бұрын
It was scary standing right next to the train when this happened lol
@richkeeshan9757
@richkeeshan9757 5 жыл бұрын
What was the significance of the small lightning bolt below the cab of the first engine?
@EyebrowsMahoney
@EyebrowsMahoney 5 жыл бұрын
I'm new to rail fan stuff, so I hope I remember this correctly. One of my railfan friends explained it to me as a CSX specific way of denoting engines with AC electric traction. Most trains tend to be DC electric powered, and the ones with the lightning bolt are the AC Electric powertrain Locomotives. I've heard this is mostly to help ground crews when building engine consists. Hope this helps.
@davidtwyford8755
@davidtwyford8755 5 жыл бұрын
I thought I heard something about passing a red signal, maybe that caused the stop??
@roxleyldc
@roxleyldc 4 жыл бұрын
That’s what I heard! Something about passing a red signal and automatically the braking system activated
@Captain_Char
@Captain_Char 5 жыл бұрын
Ive seen trains stop here and walk down to the subway that's close to the tracks, they also used to stop the train in the amusement park and get food from the restaurants there too
@TarHeelBrit
@TarHeelBrit 7 жыл бұрын
@ 16:26 is that a CN boxcar tied into Q662? Boy he's a long way from home. By the way cracking video thanks for shooting and sharing it.
@mbmars01
@mbmars01 7 жыл бұрын
Yes, this is not unusual. You'll find railcars of all kinds of railroads distributed throughout the entire continent. Thanks, I'm glad you like it.
@MattiAntsuK
@MattiAntsuK 8 жыл бұрын
Doesn't 6:04 Look like that the train got rear ended? I mean seriously... why did it jump forward like that!
@mbmars01
@mbmars01 8 жыл бұрын
There was nothing happening at the end of the train. This is just the effect of emergency braking.
@ctclark1
@ctclark1 8 жыл бұрын
Bangs you heard/saw were probably just coupler slack being taken up from the effect of the e-braking affecting the front of the train first, and then again when the head end was nearly stopped the couplers bunched again.
@themauler12345
@themauler12345 8 жыл бұрын
I think I want to agree with both of the comments above me- When you drop pressure to 0 so suddenly in the train brake pipe at the front of the train, like in an emergency stop, it causes a chain reaction that travels down the train from the front. That makes the brakes in the front cars come on first, so the rear cars are probably just pushing their way into the front ones. There's 6 inches of slack in each coupler, so it adds up.
@BNSF_7777_Productions
@BNSF_7777_Productions 6 жыл бұрын
I thought the same thing, like a train hit it from behind
@dumdum7786
@dumdum7786 6 жыл бұрын
those damn tailgaters ill tell ya...
@markcinque4586
@markcinque4586 5 жыл бұрын
is that engine a Dash 8?,0:38
@amarillotexrails18
@amarillotexrails18 5 жыл бұрын
No it's a ES44AH. All units on the coal train are ES44AH units.
@JK-cv2oz
@JK-cv2oz 5 жыл бұрын
Hi, how do you get the audio from the engines? Is it from a scanner? Would love to know. Thanks!
@mbmars01
@mbmars01 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, I use a scanner to keep me updated about what's going on. It's a Uniden BC125AT.
@JK-cv2oz
@JK-cv2oz 5 жыл бұрын
@@mbmars01 Thank you!
@JK-cv2oz
@JK-cv2oz 5 жыл бұрын
@@mbmars01 if I can bother you with one more question? I looked up the scanner you have and saw it's portable. We have an old table top model, I guess you would call it. With the portable one, how close do you have to be? We live about a short block away from the UP freight and Metra lines in the Chicagoland area. Would it work from our house or do you have to be right up by the tracks? My dad is really excited about this. I appreciate any info 😊
@mbmars01
@mbmars01 5 жыл бұрын
It depends on many factors. One important aspect to consider is the antenna. On my handheld I use a Smiley antenna, which I'm not particularly happy with. I can hear train calls from 1-5 miles, depending on terrain (weather, forest, curves, hills). I also have a stationary Uniden scanner at home which reaches up to 10 miles, depending on weather.
@JK-cv2oz
@JK-cv2oz 5 жыл бұрын
@@mbmars01 very helpful! Thank you!
@carpentierjohn7
@carpentierjohn7 5 жыл бұрын
was it a knuckle ? Noticed a yellow- red flag at 6:20 , maybe forgot to call foreman in charge and dumped it .
@bobbybrassmaster7840
@bobbybrassmaster7840 5 жыл бұрын
5:53 the first bang 6:06 - 6:07 the second bang
@spvillano
@spvillano 5 жыл бұрын
The first bang, partial slack loss, then regained, then malfunction sent the train into emergency. Takes about that long to run the string.
@charliebrooks2570
@charliebrooks2570 2 жыл бұрын
Nice dramatic catches! Busy tracks!
@mbmars01
@mbmars01 2 жыл бұрын
Those were the good old times still. It's not as busy anymore, unfortunately.
@general5104
@general5104 5 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU SO MUCH for this excellent quality railroad video!!! Please, what camera did you use and what editing software/program/App did you use? I LOVE the narration in blue text! Excellent to set off the text! (( can you leave it reysed up a little longer...please and thank you. The text is non-intrusive and you get tied up looking at train detail and sometimes dont see the text come on till too late to read it all. Don't think for a second that I'm complaining, for I'm not. Just requesting. I get into looking at detail, especially on the loco's, and forget to watch for narration)) I've been in, on, under, and up inside just about every part of the electrical part of just about all of the GE and GM-EMD Locos in a carrer almost 40 years long...I still get a warm spot in my heart, when I recognize an engine number I've fixed something on! Please keep on railfanning and be safe!
@mbmars01
@mbmars01 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for your feedback! I appreciate it. The footage for this video was filmed with a Panasonic HC-V550 camcorder. Editing was done with iMovie. Nowadays I use a WXF1 camcorder by Panasonic and Final Cut Pro X for editing. I'll keep your suggestion in mind. Great you like the video and style!
@JohnsTrainVideos
@JohnsTrainVideos 8 жыл бұрын
Wow, we don't get trains that long out in my neck of the woods, that's for sure! If a freight train has 15 cars here, it's a long one!
@mbmars01
@mbmars01 8 жыл бұрын
+John's Train Videos So you live near a branch line? That's cool, too. I really like short trains.
@JohnsTrainVideos
@JohnsTrainVideos 8 жыл бұрын
No I live near Boston, where freight trains are all but extinct, and if it's not an active commuter rail route, it's abandoned :-/
@jeffreyhueseman7061
@jeffreyhueseman7061 6 жыл бұрын
All I get are 150-210 car long manifests, with about a quarter of them autoracks.
@bryanmixon4085
@bryanmixon4085 5 жыл бұрын
Every day and night I wach your video's
@mbmars01
@mbmars01 5 жыл бұрын
That's awesome! I'm happy you enjoy the videos on this channel :)
@jbbarnett6116
@jbbarnett6116 5 жыл бұрын
How come all the engines are not faceing in the same direction why are two of the engines running backwards
@mbmars01
@mbmars01 5 жыл бұрын
They do this on purpose, because the same consist might lead a train back and then don't need to be turned.
@anthonyprincejr2967
@anthonyprincejr2967 8 жыл бұрын
do you have any train video. from Arcade GA
@mbmars01
@mbmars01 8 жыл бұрын
Nope.
@melodylane650
@melodylane650 6 жыл бұрын
Is there anymore intermodal trains that go threw auburn ga?
@mbmars01
@mbmars01 6 жыл бұрын
No, but manifests Q580/581 typically have intermodal sections.
@melodylane650
@melodylane650 6 жыл бұрын
mbmars01 I remember they used to have them come by.ive lived there pretty much all my life
@freednighthawk
@freednighthawk 5 жыл бұрын
By the radio transmissions, either a traction motor, or a complete engine shut down, then came back up. The first bang would be cutting out, and the second would be cutting back in.
@albertomadeirajr7824
@albertomadeirajr7824 5 жыл бұрын
How often CSX do maintenance on these trains?
@Normal1855
@Normal1855 5 жыл бұрын
At 17:15 he says he's behind a slow driver are you sure the driver isn't just doing the does limit?
@kanaand7741
@kanaand7741 5 жыл бұрын
It never gets old!
@mbmars01
@mbmars01 5 жыл бұрын
Yep, it never does.
@willharris4429
@willharris4429 8 жыл бұрын
Where can one go for winder ga I love watching trains I grew up in Tucker ga. You ever in winder?
@mbmars01
@mbmars01 8 жыл бұрын
Winder has many places where one can see the track, mostly from parking lots of businesses. The central crossing at the depot is a good spot, too. I'm occasionally in Winder, but not very often. It's not so close to where I live and the traffic layout is simply bad. It's easy to "lose" a train in Winder.
@aadonknapp8572
@aadonknapp8572 4 жыл бұрын
You can find trains going the train between winder and Athens and Athens to Elberton and Athens to Gainesville
@brucerodbro7188
@brucerodbro7188 8 ай бұрын
In the mid sixties I used to go up to Winder from Valdosta to pick up 12’x60’ mobile homes and haul em back to Valdosta. Part time work for me. I was in USAF. I think Winder was a Confederate general in civil war. Off topic but great train video. Thanks.
@railsofkentucky2645
@railsofkentucky2645 5 жыл бұрын
this train went into emergency quicker than i have ever seen
@TheAdamRides
@TheAdamRides 8 жыл бұрын
Did he break a knuckle or was it just a kicker that caused the emergency application?
@mbmars01
@mbmars01 8 жыл бұрын
+TheAdamRides No, a knuckle didn't break. I don't know why it went into emergency.
@goatamongsheep4296
@goatamongsheep4296 6 жыл бұрын
What was in that bag that the worker carried on board? 2 small explosive submarines?
@mbmars01
@mbmars01 6 жыл бұрын
Lol, idk.
@adavazquez3378
@adavazquez3378 4 жыл бұрын
I have a question it might sound stupid but i don't know, ok here we go on what kind combusta able these trains ride, i know they're not electric. Please somebody tell me...
@mbmars01
@mbmars01 4 жыл бұрын
That's not a stupid question at all. Virtually all North-American locomotives in freight service run on diesel fuel, which is converted to electric power to drive the traction motors - that's why these types of locomotives are called diesel-electrics (in contrast, several Europeans railroads prefer diesel-hydraulics). Amtrak and regional commuter railroads operate electric passenger trains on some of their lines. Steam locomotives are only used for excursion or tourist trains nowadays.
@victoriacyunczyk
@victoriacyunczyk 7 жыл бұрын
CSX once yanked the coupler box out of a coil car in Michigan.
@ronaldckrausejr7762
@ronaldckrausejr7762 7 жыл бұрын
Although the answer may vary depending upon the who owns the tracks and also which company is running the cargo. Anyone know of any policies regarding photographing of trains in general? Anyone ever run into many major issues?
@mbmars01
@mbmars01 7 жыл бұрын
It is allowed to photograph trains from public ground. Don't trespass or get too close to the track, though. And yes, someone who takes pictures of trains is always considered a suspicious subject. Be prepared that worried residents call the police. The cops - even if they find it ridiculous by themselves - are supposed to check your ID. Don't hang out for too long in one place, particularly near intermodal yards.
@cdavid8139
@cdavid8139 6 жыл бұрын
As a railroader who is tolerant of photographers I concur with your advice. Don't trespass. Even if you are on public property but 'appear' to be trespassing, back off a bit. Police may not be legally able to ask for ids but just be polite, explain you are a hobbyist and be prepared to calmly discuss your rights. Intermodal yards, ports and chemical plants are areas I would try to avoid. They're boring anyway. You might even consider wearing a safety vest with bright colors. Try not to do anything that would make railroad operations 'uneasy' We've all encountered railfans who will take dangerous chances for that perfect shot and it makes some nervous. Also be aware that some railfans like "Millenium Force" give the rest of you guys bad reps with crews. They feel like they're under a microscope and likely to be on KZbin and second guessed by people who don't know wtf they're talking about. Have fun!
@dwgreen53
@dwgreen53 5 жыл бұрын
Have had it here in Canada where a crew dial in wrong FRED or SBU number do a emergency air test and dynamite another train in close proximity but most likely a kicker account defective portions.
@indridcold8433
@indridcold8433 5 жыл бұрын
I believe the bangs are the slack in the gondola couplings being crushed together.
@ChannelZeroOne
@ChannelZeroOne 3 жыл бұрын
That stop much faster than I thought they could stop.
@mbmars01
@mbmars01 3 жыл бұрын
... but only because it was all empties.
@ChannelZeroOne
@ChannelZeroOne 3 жыл бұрын
@@mbmars01 Those cars weigh a lot even empty.
@howlingwolven
@howlingwolven 6 жыл бұрын
One thing I'm noticing is that CSX here seems to blow a - - o o - at crossings, instead of the - - o - . Is that normal?
@robertdavenport5457
@robertdavenport5457 5 жыл бұрын
Creative engineers the --o- is the rule book standard. If there is danger a lot of noise is appropriate.
@NESVFD
@NESVFD 8 жыл бұрын
At first the train is hold at normal speed in till the bang! (Sound like a air line gave.) the 2nd once can't be explained the bangs sound the same. It could be a coupler broke and then the air lines broke.
@douro20
@douro20 5 жыл бұрын
What is your job title?
@mbmars01
@mbmars01 5 жыл бұрын
Scientist. Railfanning helps prevent my brain from heating up at times :)
@jasonwhipp5721
@jasonwhipp5721 6 жыл бұрын
What do you use to shoot these? Camera or phone?
@mbmars01
@mbmars01 6 жыл бұрын
I have used several Panasonic camcorders in the past.
@jasonwhipp5721
@jasonwhipp5721 6 жыл бұрын
mbmars01 how expensive are those on a scale of $ to $$$$$? (If you don’t mind me asking)
@ngtflyer
@ngtflyer 8 жыл бұрын
The bangs is slack running in and out. Right after the first bang you hear the PFssshhh of the breaks applying in emergency as the application works its way back. I'd suspect an air hose further up in the consist that came loose. It's common.
@mbmars01
@mbmars01 8 жыл бұрын
+ngtflyer That may have been it. Thanks for your comment.
@ngtflyer
@ngtflyer 8 жыл бұрын
I'd also like to thank you for the high quality footage you shoot. It's nice to see people really know how to work the camera, especially with those pan/zoom shots. Nice stuff!
@mbmars01
@mbmars01 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! This is really appreciated, because it is a lot of work to get the videos right and positive feedback is very helpful to keep it up.
@CapStar362
@CapStar362 4 жыл бұрын
hey mbars, one of these days id love to tag along with you and get some good footage
@mbmars01
@mbmars01 4 жыл бұрын
Yea, I can imagine that this would be fun. However, I very rarely spend extended periods on the line anymore due to lack of time. Nowadays, I go out only if I know something interesting is coming. But this typically happens at very short notice. You can join the "CSX Abbeville Subdivision Railfan Group" on Facebook to get updates on when and where trains are running on this line.
@CapStar362
@CapStar362 4 жыл бұрын
@@mbmars01im in Oakwood GA, so.....
@mbmars01
@mbmars01 4 жыл бұрын
Cool, this means you live close to the NS Piedmont Sub.
@CapStar362
@CapStar362 4 жыл бұрын
@@mbmars01 umm i guess.... lol but yeah, send me a PM here or whatever and lets see if we can get together sometime and get some good stuff in the Gainesville Area
@motorheadrocker6504
@motorheadrocker6504 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video! Few days ago i drive locomotive like this in Train Sim World 2020))
@mbmars01
@mbmars01 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Cool.
@Muggar62
@Muggar62 8 жыл бұрын
How long was the train?
@mbmars01
@mbmars01 8 жыл бұрын
Oh well, I don't remember and if it's not mentioned in the video or description idk. Maybe about 100 cars.
@смиренный-х2б
@смиренный-х2б 5 жыл бұрын
I think CSX units have the best paint jobs. NS was my favorite for awhile but got too boring.
@gregmaday1331
@gregmaday1331 3 жыл бұрын
I'm kinda partial to Huron & Eastern, here in Michigan. They're orange with yellow accents, with a running deer in the logo.
@eltoro6688
@eltoro6688 7 жыл бұрын
I also see a conditional stop sign. Right after the next private crossing.
@johnh6791
@johnh6791 6 жыл бұрын
I felt those bangs all the way up here in Pa LOL. Did you check your shorts? LOLOL great video...
@mbmars01
@mbmars01 6 жыл бұрын
Haha, there was definitely no problem on that side 😂
@angelacelaya7254
@angelacelaya7254 4 жыл бұрын
It looks like the second bang pushed the train forward... Mabry the train came uncoupled and once the train was slowing and rammed into the rear but no crew came to inspect
@arturoreyes533
@arturoreyes533 6 жыл бұрын
Nothing more satisfyng than to see a train pulling all the same type of cars
@mbmars01
@mbmars01 6 жыл бұрын
These are called unit trains and make an awesome sound :) I really like watching and listening to empty coal trains...
@arturoreyes533
@arturoreyes533 6 жыл бұрын
@@mbmars01 You replied to my comment! Omg thx :)))))))
@mbmars01
@mbmars01 6 жыл бұрын
Lol :)
@albertomadeirajr7824
@albertomadeirajr7824 6 жыл бұрын
How long did it take the train to clear these section of the tracks? Where it went to emergency braking?
@dannyhaley7610
@dannyhaley7610 7 жыл бұрын
what casued the engine to malfunction?
@mbmars01
@mbmars01 7 жыл бұрын
I don't know if it malfunctioned at all, it was just speculation. There are also other possible explanations for the bangs.
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