1st Eric Hovind Commentary (3/4)

[@williambarnes5023]

_"The first law of thermodynamics tells us that matter (and/or energy) can't be created and it can't be destroyed."_ And thus creationism was disproven, yes.

[@chbu7081]

The only thing more dense than the singularity is Eric Hovind.

[@joeyfeep2475]

+ch bu brilliant, I wish I had thought of that! LOL so true

[@franknhonest]

+ch bu LOL

[@michaelsands442]

ch bu i respectfully disagree... sye ten bruggencate "how do you know that? how do you know that? how do you know that ×7" add a couple "brain in a vat" comments and you have his whole argument. lmfao

[@DoubleM55]

I like how he thinks that "Evolutionists" came up with the big bang theory...

[@Flevir]

Right? The model that was posited a century after evolution was in a TOTALLY SEPARATE FIELD. C'mon Eric, you CAN be better than your dad. You just have to study a little better.

[@giovaniakabacon]

"For the last fucking time, the universe did not come from nothing" Lawrence Krauss sent a hug xD

[@davidbrenner4161]

Christian: "Something CANNOT come from nothing!!! (unless gawd dunnit)"

[@lourensl3911]

HAAHHHAHAHAHAHAHA "Matter and energy cannot be created" "Matter was created"

[@Questron71]

+Lourens L God doesn't read rulebooks! Of course that also means he sucks at RPGs, but well...

[@AnaseSkyrider]

God is a shitty dungeon master. He rage-quits far too often and says shit like "Meteors crash. City is destroyed. Everyone dies.", and "The entire world is flooded. Everyone dies.".

[@fred_derf]

+Anase Skyrider, _"God is a shitty dungeon master."_ He also thinks a TPK is a reasonable response to the PCs not following his plan perfectly.

[@Maxdwolf]

"We live in a single spoken sentence." Well sure, that makes a whole lot more sense than something out of nothing. Perfectly logical. I hope that popping sound I just heard was my irony meter and not a vein in my head.

[@darketribute1562]

The origin of the universe is a beautiful thing, but still so mysterious. That's what science is here for, though; to answer these questions. I'm quite interested in the origins of the universe and quantum mechanics. They really are magnificent. More so are the people who contributed to the fields. It's a shame creationists will never experience the majesty of theoretical sciences, though. I guess it's answer first, and ask the questions later for them.

[@mattiassollerman]

0:44 Is Eric getting the wrong answer from the audience? That seems to happen a lot.

[@jayrod5411]

Haha true.

[@Ugly_German_Truths]

He was shown to try to copy a technique by his father, but without understanding the limits of his audience as well as the old man... I think it is in Part 2 of his lecture series where he tries to get them to answer his adlib about the treasure chest... and they shout enthusiastically the wrong answer ("the oldest coin tells us when the ship sank") He often seems to have problems understanding his own points too, leading to him making wrong points every so often but still to think they support his claim! The misinterpreted bit about the Sun's formation that he took to describe the big bang was taken 100% from his dad's presentation and despite it having been corrected a million time by debunkers over the last 30 years, neither one bothered to get rid of the embarassing bit and use something more correct.

[@aturchomicz821]

@@Ugly_German_Truths wow thats sad

[@MrJoeyWheeler]

5:08 What the actual fuck? Did Hovind just seriously...so THAT'S where Josh Failstein got it from. And there's no way he could NOT have known he was lying there, because "uni" and "verse" are from two completely different languages!

[@karstens7893]

Damian Freeman And Hovind got it from dad.

[@MrJoeyWheeler]

Karsten Schnier I've actually never heard Hovind Sr. Say something quite THAT stupendously dishonest.

[@karstens7893]

Damian Freeman He did, check ***** 's chanel

[@MrJoeyWheeler]

Karsten Schnier Must have slipped past me while I was laughing at Logicked's entertaining responses. >_

[@karstens7893]

XD

[@celticlord88]

My friend is a physics major and every time we hang out, he talks about string theory. It's very fascinating.

[@ironlung1028]

Your videos and the arguments in them are all great. I hope you have many more planned.

[@takingupserpents632]

On that last thought, could you please include that Hannibal scene(inserting Eric hovind) in one of your videos Please?

[@El-Duderino-His-Dudeness]

Things like this make me question whether or not there should be exceptions to free speech.

[@riolarsen8094]

"People being extremely wrong makes me question whether or not free speech should have exceptions."

[@ParanormalEncyclopedia]

El Duderino I'd say he's poster boy for free speech... do you want to EVER risk him getting to decide the exceptions?

[@JoliBastin]

wow I had no idea that idiotic idea of universe meaning a single spoken sentence was a previously existing misconception. I first heard that Josh Feuerstein dipshit make that claim and thought he made it up himself. Damn when was the last time a creationist had a single independent thought? Even this entire presentation is an almost word for word copy of the ones daddy used to give, and those textbooks were already outdated back then too.

[@MrLightningbob]

plus there's the fact that their "definition" comes from two different languages to fit their idiotic belief.

[@Zentauri77]

MrLightningbob Wow. I had no idea creationists are raised bi-lingual. I bet that's what Erics curriculum vitae says :)

[@zemorph42]

The last time? probably sometime in the first to third century

[@viyhexe131]

I read your comment. I knew it was coming. But when he pulled that out I still couldn't stop myself from gagging at the sheer stupidity.

[@KingCrocoduck]

Be patient, it'll come after my next video. I know you're eager to be schooled, but seeing as this is my channel, the order of videos that I post are at my discretion.

[@KingCrocoduck]

During the singularity, everything was warped in an infinite regression. The warping of space was so severe that time itself was dilated to infinity- so in reality, the singularity existed in a timeless, eternal void. Time didn't exist until the expansion. It's a difficult concept to wrap one's head around, but since there was no time before time, whatever existed before time (like energy) has always existed.

[@thorspower]

Also do not forget all of its related fields physics, biology, cosmology, microbiology, and chemistry. I am sure I misses some here but apparently Eric is an expert in all of these related fields.

[@meleagrisfelis]

Thanks. Cosmology is an area where I'm very weak. I welcome any suggestions.

[@communistgoatboy]

I would recommend Chapter 8 of Barbara Ryden's "Introduction to Cosmology." It does an excellent job of demonstrating the observational evidence for "weighing" the universe and how there simply isn't enough baryonic matter to account for the curvature we see. Plus, reading the whole book will allow you to smack down creatards who proclaim anything about cosmology. :-) Double plus, you should be able to find it at any college library as it is a very commonly used textbook.

[@EclipsePheniox]

Ok just thowing this out there but is it possible that the gravaton imbalance and quantum tunneling happned at almost the same time and cuase the singularity?

[@KingCrocoduck]

The singularity is the popular concept in the physics department, with only one piece of the puzzle missing: the quantum workings of gravity. If the graviton is real, the eternal singularity theory could potentially be vindicated- to fully understand the singularity, we need to know how all of the fundamental forces interact at a quantum level.

[@KingCrocoduck]

Time is part of the fabric of space, so increased density would dilate, or slow, it. The idea that quantum effects (especially concerning the graviton) could have spontaneously is part of the eternal singularity/expansion theory, in which the model of the universe is that it was born from quantum fluctuations in the singularity and will continue to expand forever. Personally, I'm on board with Michio Kaku and the oscillating universe theory, but hey- until the data comes, to each his own.

[@dfdrye]

"A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step." ---Laozi

[@sammypuro9392]

Eric Hovind should consider using this piece to be a stand up comedian. A stand up "Cre-median".

[@Mustang630]

I think my first question would have to be, "So, Eric, where did you study science?"

[@averylbrooks]

Even if his question made sense, "How did the universe make itself?". To be consistent he would need to ask the same question of his god. "Hey god, how did you come from nothing; because nothing can't come from nothing right? Come on god, it doesn't make sense how you can make yourself from nothing; tell us how you did it?" Take whatever his would be answer could be and apply it to the universe without a god.

[@KingCrocoduck]

I'm not avoiding the issue, I'm just waiting for you to try to make a point for me to argue. Telling me to research something doesn't constitute an argument- MAKE YOUR POINT. And while you're at it, quit dodging the topic of dark matter, or concede that it's validated.

[@flatfeetpete4045]

Eric has a head that just makes you want to punch it lol

[@brennanolver674]

Hi King Crocoduck (or any other qualified physics student or physicist) I have a genuine question I've never known the answer to. If the singularity existed before time, how could the Big Bang happen at all? Isn't the existence of time required for events to happen? Is this adequately addressed in any current theory or maybe in quantum mechanics? If so I'd really appreciate being pointed towards it.

[@wispa1a]

physics as no need to go beyond their. their was no time no nothing. obviously otherwise the theory wouldn't work. very hard concept to understand

[@kwinland]

You do a GREAT job, btw! ALL your videos are worth it. My fear is that trolls like mikayla 3737 are completely distracting and suck time and energy from better efforts.

[@MrBrittish]

Great vids these chap, got any good refs for the quantum tunneling from another single spoken sentance? Also, while i'm at it. What's your views on the universe from nothing(no need to explain Nothing, though that too would be interesting).

[@scarletrose2880]

I am in love with your brain, I bow to Thee your Majesty Crocoduck

[@meleagrisfelis]

If you have a chance I wouldn't mind a link to the mathematical proof. My multivariable calculus is a number of years in the past, (I used to tutor it) but I think this might be a fun challenge for me.

[@isizinyo]

This Eric is PAINFUL to listen to. Well done on your video King Crocoduck. How you sat through all that BS is beyond me. I felt like pouring hot fudge in my eyes after a mere 1minute. Clear to see the Hovind rotten apple didn't fall far from the sick tree. Lets hope he follows in his dad's footsteps

[@slumberzzzz]

He's not only repeating his father, he's repeating his expression and word emphasis.. billioNS...etc

[@KingCrocoduck]

Because no one can make an alternate account, right? By the way, busy fathers don't go to the library just to make YT accounts to converse with strangers.

[@KaroKoenich]

Oh man... I'm gonna need a Lawrence Krauss lecture after this series. Just to blow the shit out of my head. Spoken sentence? Wow.

[@2010paultron]

no no i meant that for her! your doing great crocoduck my bad!

[@SilentServicePH]

I love how there isn't a single text book quote from a current text book or journal.

[@NickParisho]

I woke my roommate up because I was yelling "That the creation of a Solar System Fucktard" at the screen... was the 9th commencement just a suggestion ?

[@thefifthlordsilence3529]

What's up with creationist and using out dated sources?

[@thefifthlordsilence3529]

glade to know you are honest with yourself. Also does any else feel as if their brain cells commit suicide from watching to much Eric Hovind videos?

[@corichin2156]

Caisee Campbell same here, kudos

[@prototypep4]

The Fifth Lord: Silence Never seen Sye Tan before? Ray Comfort? Ken Ham? All are equally as bad.

[@thefifthlordsilence3529]

prototypep4 Sye no. the others sadly yes. But lucky in small douses.

[@prototypep4]

The Fifth Lord: Silence I found Sye to be worse. Just because he's a presuppositionist

[@KingCrocoduck]

The observations that we have based on gravity and evolution are facts. The mechanisms and the manner in which they work, however, are theories. So yes, you're right. When I referred to gravity as a theory, it was to illustrate the futility of mikayla3737's tautology fallacy.

[@KingCrocoduck]

And btw, the space between the galaxies is increasing, causing the distance between them to increase relative to one another, so... Technically they are flying apart from each other. Remind me what this had to do with the big bang?

[@MOPEDBRAD]

Actually, trolling can simply be subversive satirism that the target isn't capable of comprehending. What is percieved as trolling, is actually trolling, and is widely accepted as trolling are three different things.

[@abcdefg10376]

6:25 i almost died haha xD

[@corichin2156]

yes, please do, im enjoying this

[@Akira625]

11:34 His father made that *exact* same mistake using the *exact* same textbook excerpt.

[@squirreljester2]

6:00 That line of thinking is actually word for word from his father's videos.

[@acuyra]

Because bones never degrade. I can't step outside my house without stepping on a squirrel skeleton.

[@MOPEDBRAD]

I like to think of the universe as infinite two dimensional plane folded into an infinitely complex piece of origami, inside an infinitely large, infinitely intricate balloon animal, riding in one of an infinite number of bubbles on a never ending ocean wave. Sometimes though, I prefer to think of it as infinitely large bean burrito with an infinite number of ingredients inside of an....

[@echalko]

I find it interesting that he poo poo's a huge swath of science, but once he finds some 'GOOD SCIENCE' that apparently aligns with his preconceived world view (like the law of thermodynamics, which when evaluated still doesn't help his case) he's all over it like a fly on a turd. Typical.

[@fatskepticalone4756]

I couldn't fucking believe it either, but he cherry picks more than most theists

[@MrJoeyWheeler]

I can't be the only one who read your comment in the voice of *****, can I?

[@AnaseSkyrider]

Mr. Dr. Prof. Mechanical Engineer Scientist John Morris Pendleton got his schtick from Kent Hovind.

[@KingCrocoduck]

Busy fathers don't log onto their daughters' YT accounts to carry on conversations with strangers over the course of a week, and especially doesn't converse with someone on YT on a Monday noon.

[@TheBelieveit1]

How would you propose I even get that to you and how long can you wait?

[@TheCrimsonIdol987]

"Matter can't be created or destroyed and because of that, Hovind thinks that the only possible answer is that it was created?" That point escaped him, because it was cuttingly close to what he believes

[@MrBrittish]

fuck me so much of that paragraph went over my head, I'm glad theres no such thing as nothing cause quite frankly it was a headache. cheers for the reply, hopefully your comments may lead me to some clarity, I doubt it somehow. String Theory, I hate to admit, is just too out there for me to get close to any understanding.

[@takingupserpents632]

Didn't Hannibal Lector sauté some part of this guys prefrontal cortex and then feed it to him?

[@weefeatures]

Can I ask what you're studying? Are you a physicist or something or a keen fan of science? Great vids btw, sometimes I wonder if the Hovinds are just really bored trolls

[@KingCrocoduck]

Only the language of mathematics can tackle such extremes. In the case of an infinite regression, lim f(x) [as x approaches infinity] = zero.

[@KingCrocoduck]

You know what? Congratulations. You just inspired my next video. In it, I will prove, unequivocally, that the world is MORE than 6,000 years old. And if you can disprove it, you get a gold star. Sound good, honey?

[@KingCrocoduck]

Well technically that's a conversion of mass-energy rather than an elimination

[@Hyperplaterine]

I think one of the big barriers creationists have to understanding science is that they genuinely do not know how the scientific method works. They think scientists arrive at their conclusions in exactly the same way they do. Is there any possibility of you doing a series explaing the scientific method? This seems to be an area that hasn't been covered in great detail on YT.

[@GapWim]

at 13:55 the caption reads "Humanists regard the Universe as self-existing and not created. Humanist Manifesto (1933) Tenent #1" -->1933

[@TetsuRiken]

Now i hear Josh Fartstain

[@Thezuule1]

I was unaware I lived in a sentence.

[@jhonjacson798]

to be fair to hovind, versum CAN mean verse as in the english verse, it's where the english word verse comes from, but in the context of universum, it is not reffering to a a single verse, more than likelly it is referring to the spinning thing you were talking about. I tried comming up with proof positive of this by finding some times when the word universum was written but couldn't find any, does anybody know where I can find a citation of the word universum? If we could find some native italian that said that before the migration of Jews into Rome that would be proof positive that it wasn't based on the Bible.

[@finderfinder100]

This is almost exactly like his father's "dissertation" which was just his old speeches type out so he could buy a Doctorate

[@KingCrocoduck]

And which argument lacked merit, may I ask?

[@mutedajar9687]

Goddammit I hate how these people argue. They say some bullshit that is often a misunderstanding of what they're trying to disprove anyways and then they say "That doesn't make any sense does it. I'm too dumb to consider anything that isn't intuitive to me."

[@42CZ]

Eric, discovery doesn't want your vid because it needs more cowbell.

[@satanspenpal]

well said. you deserve a subscription.

[@KingCrocoduck]

I haven't shown you any math at all... yet.

[@abegorrell3548]

The funniest thing about him saying that EVOLUTIONISTS thought up the big bang is funny considering the fact that the big bang theory was made by a Catholic priest during the times of Albert Einstein and even Albert had thought that the big bang theory was a farce.

[@micometer]

Keep up the good work King.

[@thorspower]

I still want to know where Eric Hovind got his science degree.

[@bhbhhb6269]

Question: if you had a chance to punch eric hovind or jesus in the face, who would you punch?

[@zemorph42]

Too easy; I would let Eric talk and wait for Jesus to punch him;I doubt even an imaginary being could tolerate the stupidity for long.

[@kwinland]

Ahhhh, you're joking, right? As an archaeologist, I can tell you that many soils and environmental factors break down bone, even after only a century or two. Preservation is always a problem, barring unique factors. This is neither a mystery nor a revelation. For fine skeletal preservation, check out the Atacama desert - LOTS of bones there! You literally trip over them on the coast, and that area was never densely settled.

[@jacobmeyer138]

every time I do something stupid, I remember there are people who take eric hovind seriously and then I feel smart again.

[@DovahKanye]

Well, Picard never had to wait, so why should I have to?

[@stinger15au]

You can call it whatever you like, won't change the fact that evolution is pretty well known science with excellent explanations for how we came to be. Its as sound a theory as gravity, magnetism and nuclear theory.

[@KingCrocoduck]

To defy the creator of the universe, there must be a creator in the first place. Demonstrate that there is one, and you'll have made your point.

[@dischordia23]

"the energy existed in a TIMELESS void UNTIL the big bang" Neither language nor imagination works well here, huh?

[@KingCrocoduck]

"The Video that Every Creationist Must See" goes over some of that- check it out and let me know what you think. (Check my channel)

[@aharmlesspie]

Thank you for throwing that trololol bit of song in there, my face was contorting in disbelief and the laugh brought me out of it. This stuff is balls to the fucking wall hilarious. I know 5-year-olds with a better understanding of science that they've formulated entirely on their own. I find it hard to believe that anyone could fall for this creationist shit, but I guess I gotta have faith...

[@animevet]

He got that Universe thing from Kent Hovind

[@zakinonly8swifechristine664]

King crocodungs aprouch to intelligence is a premature ejaculation to real intelligence. Good luck crocodung and your partner

[@MrCharwiz]

at 4:50 they spelled it correctly science

[@brianstell6099]

"variation =/= change over time" Eric hovind

[@DrogoBaggins987]

Does he take this freak show on the road like his father? I would love to go and see this live. Never mind why.

[@Jaybird196]

'Anyone else think Hovind looks a wee bit like Dr. Forrester from MST3K in the thumbnail (with the lime green shirt, and all) ?

[@matthewpearson5971]

Wow this is sad. Hearing that someone so clearly ignorant has an audience is terrifying. Probably a homeschool convention.

[@KingCrocoduck]

To respond to your first sentence, please watch my video "Why the Probability Argument Fails" to understand why what you just said makes no sense. And yes, you can theoretically get any population count, be it 2000 or 2 trillion, just from fluctuating the birth rate (assuming of course that there are enough resources for the latter.) And here's a link to a graph by the Population Reference Bureau to prove my point: (read my next comment for the link)

[@zemorph42]

3:40-4:02 Eric should have edited this part out. Who knows why?

[@Questron71]

+zemorph42 Eric should also have gone to a proper school instead of only sitting on Daddy*'s knees and learning this fucked up worldview, yet we were not so lucky. Just think if he had taken on an honest job like.... Drug dealer or international assassin... And we'd miss out on all these fun videos ;) As for your question i guess you refer to infinite regression... "Elephants all the way down"? If the universe needs a creator that creator also needs a creator, who needs a creator, who...

[@zemorph42]

+Urs F (Feno3000) Not exactly; What do theists say when asked, "Who made God?" How did Eric Hovind interpret "uncreated and self-existing" in this video?

[@zemorph42]

+Urs F (Feno3000) He apparently didn't realize that his "logic" here could be applied to his God as easily as to the Universe.

[@Questron71]

zemorph42 Well if they would stop using all arguments that are equally valid to their own shit as for the claims of Science they would to have to make an oath of silence... Just take Ken the Ham... "Were you there?" and instantly his claim the bible was written by god and is believable because he "inspired" it would implode in itself. He also wasn't there when the Grand Canyon was formed, regardless if you talk about the imaginary flood or the geological process and still he makes a statement about the formation. They only ever accept such limitations if they are put down on the evolution side. Their own book is not limitable... To abuse Yoda's famous quote... and that's why they fail.

[@zemorph42]

+Urs F (Feno3000) "an oath of silence" What a great idea! I learned long ago that I can learn so much more when I keep my mouth shut and my ears and eyes open. Maybe if they give their mouths a rest, their brains might begin working.

[@MMasterDE]

Saying the universe didn't come from nothing is kinda moving the goal post, even if it is true. What I mean is, where did what the universe come from come from? I know we don't know this, but my point is, this should be mentioned too, else you won't convince anyone of what you are saying and it will just feel like you were moving the goal post.

[@SephieRothe]

acreation does not only involve gravity.

[@KortGFox]

In all honesty, does the distinction really matter?

[@CriminalBabies]

6:16 and Mickey Mouse said: ABRA CADABRA

[@MrCharwiz]

At 3:02 he spelled science wrong. LOL

[@KingCrocoduck]

You're a bit behind the times, friend. First, nothing outside of math can be "proven" so I don't support the position that the singularity has been proven. And second, the expansion of the universe necessitates a singularity in which the four forces, space, and time are united in an 11 dimensional coil. I could go into how string theory, membranes, and Higgs would vindicate aspects of the singularity, but seeing as I'm only limited to 500 characters, just take this working physics major's word.

[@KingCrocoduck]

I think this is a good opportunity to spread scientific literacy throughout YT. My next video will be worth it, believe me! More ammunition to use in debates against young earth creationists.