Removing BODYLINE Dents! | GLUE or PUSH? What’s best?

[@1st_track_dents]

Hi all, an interesting one today which gives you an insight into the many questions that run through my mind when I’m deciding what method to use when approaching different types of damage. Hope you enjoy!

[@brettbrown1762]

Do you do courses id love to learn how to do this as a job always wanted to bw my own boss

[@1st_track_dents]

@@brettbrown1762 Hi Brett, Unfortunately I don't run any courses.

[@joshuang1128]

@@1st_track_dents awesome videos though, your explanations are so clear and accent is easy to understand

[@1st_track_dents]

@@joshuang1128 Thanks Joshua, really appreciate your feedback 👍

[@w000w00t]

You are so generous with your knowledge, and your editing skills are great! Keep it up!! :)

[@1st_track_dents]

Thank you, I have quite a few videos coming your way:-)

[@HardikPatel-re9wz]

@@1st_track_dents more content , atleast one video per week. constant video is manta of success on the youtube.

[@1st_track_dents]

@@HardikPatel-re9wz Yes I agree, but doing the day job and having a family doesn't give me the hours I need to put out these videos. 👍

[@Serbianguy432]

I don't know whether to call this magic or artistry, but it impresses the heck out of me!

[@robertcampbell5605]

He makes it look easy , as a collision tech who’s tried learning this skill. It’s far from as quick an easy as he makes it appear.

[@Justliketolearn]

It's easy when you have the rich tools 😉

[@claudemaggard7162]

I like your films. Im totally obsessed with this PDR content.

[@andyjamestf]

I love these vlogs, by far the best channel to help you learn the PDR process properly. Thanks for sharing your depth of knowledge to all us newbies!

[@davebrittain9216]

You are like a magician! You make dents disappear. Amazing really.

[@Nybravest911]

What can I tell ya? You answered the very question I had. It's worth the time to pull away the trimming, accessing the problem area, and pushing it out. Huge high five to ya. Thanks again!

[@tommalchert416]

Always enjoy your Chanel...........I think your the best on KZbin Thanks again

[@jasabasenara8124]

Outstanding as usual. Master you are. Best I've seen.

[@daniloderoma2565]

great job ,lovely precision.PROFESSIONAL

[@ls6-ss413]

Much respect... you are very talented man. I could employ you full time with the places my wife chooses to park.

[@1st_track_dents]

😂🤣😂

[@paulolodicora4471]

Excellent video, very well organized showing differences between technics approaching, and breaking it down with very details. Cheers from Brazil.

[@stefanonovelli9810]

I have the same dent on my car that is going to be repaired today. I was told that the result should be around 80% of perfection. It's a sin to be so far from you!!!!! Your great job is what I mean for perfection and great professionalism!!!

[@1st_track_dents]

Thank you, hopefully it will come out 100% or close to. Sometimes on a tricky dent I won't promise 100% but most of the time I manage to achieve it, it's called under promise and over deliver! Good luck with it 🤞

[@stefanonovelli9810]

@@1st_track_dents hey just called me on the phone: they told me that the paint has been removed, literally "the paint is left in his hand". It means that instead of working with the levers like you do, they worked faster with pad and glue. And of course it's more beneficial to them because in the end the job will cost me triple and they'll work half the time. And I'm sure the end result will never be comparable to one of your repairs done without repainting. I imagined it would end like this. Anyway, good job and congratulations again for your interventions which are miraculous

[@1st_track_dents]

@@stefanonovelli9810 That's a shame, maybe the panel has been painted before, maybe that's why the paint came off. Without seeing it I can't really comment. Hopefully the repair will still come out ok. Thanks again for your kind words, I really appreciate it. 👍

[@victorbarranca2910]

Had to watch this one again, this was an outstanding video.

[@aldo9564]

Really Love your Presentation style. Wish there were more like yourself in The States. You remind me quite a lot, of my Tinter. He’s a 3M Master Tinter, and there is simply no substitute for Finesse ! Thanks

[@1st_track_dents]

Thanks, I really enjoy doing these videos!

[@johnhanson4795]

reaper rod is the best for them for me.i fixed 7 dents yesterday on a 200 mile 2011 camaro ss convertabile that a1 reaper rod shined evertime and it was black guy wanted it close to 100 percent without any sanding i tryed other rods nuthing you need a sharp reaper in my opinion i did a shelbe mustang to that was even harder pushing with reaper but it got it done

[@1st_track_dents]

Hey John, thanks for your comment, yes I've heard of you guys using the reaper rods over there in the USA, I've never seen one or tried one, sounds like a great bar 👍

[@monkeyboy405]

i always had to go for the quickest option as trade in the southwest was constricted where they dont want to pay the money, yet they expected miracles alot of the time. other parts of the world charge bodyshop prices for the same paintless repair yet saving time and there car dont get respray issues very good channel i done it for 22 yrs

[@1st_track_dents]

Thanks! Yes I know, trade never want to pay the money, that's why I only do retail now, wasted too many years rushing around doing trade work smashing my body to bits for pennies. Thanks for watching 👍👍

[@LP4AbsoluteEver]

Wow, im genuinely dumbfounded..! Great video, fantastic skill!

[@1st_track_dents]

Thanks!

[@31acruz]

Without a doubt one of the most intelligent, informative and well laid out and illustrated series on the net on this topic, sir you are outstanding! May I ask for you in future casts to distinguish the pros/cons between cold and hot glue?

[@HardikPatel-re9wz]

i m glad to youtube algorithm that i found u ! u should keep making video , you have great potential . i m mech engg , find ur explanation so much intresting ✨🙏.

[@HardikPatel-re9wz]

keep ur self motivated , u r smart ( i have seen ur protective shield video ) , u r going to make great videos , if you know much more about car then car flip with great explanation like this i see million subscribers on ur channel.

[@1st_track_dents]

Thanks, for taking an interest!

[@vidicz]

Amazing editing 👍👍👍

[@1st_track_dents]

Thanks Zan, as you know yourself when you're making your great videos it takes a lot of time to do, but it can be very enjoyable! 😎

[@_baller]

Good work, great production

[@1st_track_dents]

Many Thanks 👍

[@marknoble5495]

Only 4 minutes in, but I think you definitely made the right choice. I’d definitely want to access the dent even if I started with a little glue pull first. A couple of aggressive or misplaced taps on the crown or around the body line and it won’t be as clean without a sharp tip picking at them. Basically to glue pull that dent and finish it, it would take too much time being so careful with every tap. Might as well at least find a way to slide something to it.

[@1st_track_dents]

Totally agree, It was quite tight to push up so glue pulling would have really struggled. Glue can be great, but yes it can take so long to do. I've spent an hour before trying to pull a dent with glue making slow progress, only then to find out that I did have access behind after all, then I push it up in about 5 minutes!

[@stevejanka361]

Good afternoon Jake, beautiful work as usual. Looks flawless. You take care and stay healthy. Good luck.

[@1st_track_dents]

Thanks Steve, hope you're well 😎

[@MrBadkosto]

English quality ! Thanks for the detailed description ! Your videos are always motivating.

[@1st_track_dents]

Thank you!

[@omendarklight1526]

Thank you for your hard, fantastic work. And generous knowledge

[@EdWeibe]

wow. impressive. I've been glue pulling one for a few sessions and got about 80% of it out on my Subaru. Same kind of injury. I am thinging of your method here.

[@1st_track_dents]

Thanks, yes glue pulling is great but sometimes you can waste hours when a 10 minute push from behind will do the job 👍

[@EdWeibe]

@@1st_track_dents I'm gonna look for access. thanks for your response.

[@Flux_Flow]

Nice work ! As always. I have 2 small acorn dings on my hood, 3 small acorn dings on my roof, and 1 door ding on each door from neighbors. I've watched a lot of PDR videos especially from your channel and it makes me want to buy myself a kit to give it a try. My car is a Subaru Forester 2017 and am very hesitant to do it. Too bad all the dings are from nature and knuckleheads.

[@1st_track_dents]

Thanks, Subaru panels can be a bit of a challenge, so be very careful!

[@damienmilas8337]

What can I say mate it never gets old as usual great work , looking forward to seeing the next one 👍

[@cdgins]

Thank you for your generosity in sharing your expertise. Very helpful.

[@1st_track_dents]

Thank you for taking the time to comment, i really appreciate it 👍

[@jonathansalazar3987]

Very much appreciate your content, the way you brake everything down is very helpful thank you

[@vallediaz4975]

I also do this job at Volkswagen Argentina. I watch all your videos. excellent work and hug from Argentina.

[@1st_track_dents]

Thanks Valle Diaz, I hope the job gives you as much satisfaction as i get from it, I am sure your work is top quality 👍

[@vallediaz4975]

Indeed my work is of high quality. I have been working at Volkswagen for 15 years. Unfortunately I was alwayls afraid to start my own workshop. For fear of failure.when I watch your videos, your tools and your talent, I really enjoy it. I send you hug! From a distance.

[@glennlambert5112]

Nice to have you back. I watched a PDR guy trying to repair a dent in a similar position that some one else had tried to fix. It wasn't going well. I suggested they put a GB sticker over it. They thought it wouldn't be a bad idea. You can have that tip for free. Love the content and great video production.

[@1st_track_dents]

Thanks Glenn, yes I remember those GB stickers on cars, it must stand for 'Great Bodge!" 😂🤣😂

[@gilaylett9423]

Old school me to. Well done. 16 year tech Australia.

[@1st_track_dents]

Thanks Gil, yes sometimes it's just quicker to stick a bar behind as glue puling can be a messy affair at the best of times! Great to hear from a tech on the other side of the world, I hope you're busy 😎

[@Nybravest911]

Maybe you can give us a tutorial on how to use the "pull" method using glue and what types of dents using the "Pull" method you'd recommend/not recommend.

[@allann9892]

Great Video very informative ,one question where to get the big umbrella i have one but its only +- 1.5 m wide and your one is a nice span to protect against sun and rain, Keep up the good work and the videos

[@rodp2310]

Great work Jake. You are a master. Quick question - are there any official or unofficial sources/databases to find out how the internal access might look for each model - or are you just reliant on personal experience and/or just stripping the panel trims and seeing what you find?

[@1st_track_dents]

Just personal experience really, most manufacturers use the same systems on most of their models, so you can kind of guess how newer models come apart:-)

[@tonydelitala]

Thanks! Great vid and know-how. Results speak for themselves. (Can’t imagine who would thumbs-down this).

[@1st_track_dents]

Thanks for watching Tony!

[@aarontyrrell2931]

Nice job! Looked good, I prefer to push also instead of glue if you can access it. U made it look easy!

[@1st_track_dents]

Thanks Aaron, yes I always feel more comfortable with pushing as it gives you more control and there is less risk of damaging the paint, although there are some amazing sticky glues on the market, but I don't think any of them would have been strong enough to touch this dent 👍

[@dentremover01]

Hi Jake, superb as always!

[@1st_track_dents]

Thanks Martin, getting back into the swing of things again!

[@andyskinner7163]

another awesome video jake,hope your well :)

[@1st_track_dents]

Thanks Andy, I'm all good thanks, hope you are too 👍

[@kakhishukakidze2289]

Amazing job!!! With all important information!! 👌👌😊😊👍👍💪💪🙏🙏

[@1st_track_dents]

Thank You 👍

[@mybigbackyard741]

great result! Have you had any experience working on mk5 generation of Jetta? I have 3 dents on driver's side rear quarter panel and wonder if it's possible to access behind the panel from somewhere. I've given some pulls but I could really use some push too.

[@1st_track_dents]

You would need to remove the inner trims:-)

[@stedlocks]

Another lovely, clean job fella...! Hoping to embark on a new career in PDR myself, when I retire from the fire service! Excellent explanation of your train of thought with regards to the methods you chose to use.

[@1st_track_dents]

Thanks, good luck on your PDR journey!

[@stedlocks]

@@1st_track_dents ha! Thanks, but its not begun yet!👍😂

[@paulaneri1375]

I would like to know how many years have you worked doing this?? How many years of experience do you have?? You do an amazing job!!!

[@1st_track_dents]

Well over 25 years now, time certain flies when you are having fun 🤩

[@alexandergalo8249]

How long and how much heat should be applied to the affected area with the gun?

[@Scuba-Kat]

Brilliant job 👍🏻

[@honestjohn6222]

Good tradesman always make it look easy , very good !

[@CA-pv5ie]

You rock 1st Track, thanks tons for sharing!

[@troyelliott8186]

Hope you reply. Watch the first video I found of yours. You worked on several dented and types of debts on a passenger rear door of a silver car. My dent is similar to the smallest dent you fix on that door opposite the door handle on the front passenger door. I always drop my hood closed at a certain height. This time I pushed down on it creating a smooth oval like dent about 1.5 or so. Opposite of the center raised body line. Dent does not make contact with that line. So dent wizard will do the job. At same time may get them to work on extremely hard to see create on a passenger rear door hit by another door. I show the car, I am very particular. So I cover up certain areas of my car where mechanics etc may handle. I will remove interior panels and or other parts if easier then covering them up with tape etc. All this gives me peace of mind other things don't get damaged while work on other issues are getting done. Trust me it has paid off. Taking a car in to get a repair and it coming out with other scuffs, scraps, Mark's etc sucks. What I do usually makes there work easier also. So with this door very mild crease I know the SUPER EASY to mark up all hard plastic interior panel has to come off. Thus do i leave window up or down for dent wizard to work on that door. Because they won't have the interior panel. It will be safe at my home. Vehicle 2017-2020 Chevy Sonic hatchback. Ps: crease is about same location that smallest dent was on the silver car you worked on passenger rear door.

[@1st_track_dents]

Sounds like you are the ideal customer when you say that you prepare the car in advance for having work carried out on it, removing trim panels etc. I hope Dent wizard do a great job for you, there are some great PDR techs around these days and it's great if you can find one who really takes pride in their work. I wish you all the best, regards, Jake

[@xyz4469]

Thank you Jake for the video AND the pictures from underneath.

[@1st_track_dents]

Yes, I made a bit more effort on this one to show you what was going on on the underside, this was some of the best access I have had for a while, really makes the dent easier to manipulate, all the best 👍

[@petrokrasnov2967]

As always outstanding skills!

[@tiabran]

Great job and great video. How much does a repair like that generally cost?

[@beautyofnature5924]

Both are best when you are there👌

[@1st_track_dents]

Thank You!

[@robertbills4290]

I've got dents on my roof where a roof rack was used is it possible to get them removed and how would you suggest it was done cheers great video again buddy Rob

[@CVM222VOLT]

I imagine my story is rather common. New vehicle that gets its first minor dent. Someone mentions PDR as a less expensive method for a resolve so you search the subject. Before you know it your ordering basic PDR tools and excited to scratch that DIY itch. The dent in this videos is exactly what I have to work with other than different make / model of vehicle. Between PDR tools , body panel bought to practice on and hours attending the University of KZbin ... I could have paid to have a professional perform the repair many times over for less out of pocket. I curse that DIY Virus that causes this behavior but thank goodness for videos like this to help the learning process. Your efforts are appreciated.... Any chance you will be making a "The fun of cleaning up DIY repair attempts performed by customers" ??

[@franciscogalindo3155]

Apreciable Señor, le estoy inmensamente agradecido por los videos que pone a nuestra disposición. Con ellos aprendo a realizar trabajos de PDR. También le agradezco que sus videos tienen muy buena traducción en el idioma español. envío a usted mi agradecimiento y bendiciones para todos los suyos. Saludos afectuosos desde México.

[@1st_track_dents]

Muchas gracias por tu comentario. Intento traducir todos mis videos para que nadie se sienta excluido. Me alegro de que mis videos sean útiles, ¡todo lo mejor para ti! 😉👍

[@sydmichel]

You said that it was 30 degrees outside. So I'm curious as to why you are wearing gloves in that heat?

[@1st_track_dents]

These are light fabric, breathable gloves so my grubby hands will always stay cool. 😂

[@lukaschalat5154]

I always wearing gloves, i dont like to work without. Its can hurt my gentle hands xD

[@ddoherty5956]

Sheet steel can have a sharp edge to it so often a good idea wearing gloves anyway.

[@toolrestoration]

love watching you make these dents disappear , but always wonder .... how much does it cost for your time and expertise , any chance of now and again letting us know what it costs ? cheers , jim

[@chrisa6279]

Hi Jake, you show that you do remove a fair amount of trims during your daily work, Once use clips , do you carry a stash of clips around with you or do you never ever break them ?

[@1st_track_dents]

Yes I carry spares, but it's always the same cars that things break on! Never have a problem with BMW's though, they are designed to come apart nicely 👍

[@johnpauljones965]

Absolutely amazing!

[@jamesyday72]

Fantastic work as always I am just starting doing pdr work any good tips?

[@adriancarter825]

Truly amazing job

[@franciscogalindo3155]

You are a great teacher. Thank you very much. If your videos had a Spanish translation you would surely have millions of fingers up. (like)

[@dolfowolfo1]

Awesome! Does this gentleman have any videos where he ONLY glue pulls on a light like this? I'm not very trim removal savvy :\.

[@jeenalworld4899]

I love your skill man, its awesome. Keep it on...

[@southwestsurronuk8540]

Phenomenal job, thank you. Gonna attempt mine today, wish me luck! Subscribed 🙏

[@1st_track_dents]

Thanks, best of luck!

[@nikpatel16]

Nice work, where you get the umbrella from?

[@1st_track_dents]

Thanks, Nik, it's from my local fishing tackle shop, I think it is a 62" diameter, so it does the job well come rain or shine!

[@nikpatel16]

Thanks, looks bigger

[@johnhanson4795]

im american but this guy is so good guys!

[@TheMullyPodcast]

Amazing work!

[@andyrazzell1080]

Fantastic clean repair as normal, Love the explanation and showing tools choice, Can you advise where you get the plastic bullet tip for pushing please, I have not been able to get them Thank you

[@1st_track_dents]

Thanks Andy, the plastic bullet tip I use is from my Edgy tools knockdown. In the UK TDN and PDR Pro Tools have a selection of quite a few tips including plastic bullet tips here: www.pdrprotools.co.uk/screw-tips-threads-c-28.html tdntools.com/collections/tips

[@TheBennynyc2]

I would be interested in the tools brand and type you use. Great vids keep up the good work

[@omarpena116]

Excellent repair . Where did you got the doble bend tool

[@Bewareofthedog69]

I thought you'd go with the push over the glue Jake, excellent result as ever mate.

[@1st_track_dents]

Thanks, yes I much prefer the control of a push 👍

[@jrcflaus]

Your video production is almost as great as your dent reduction!

[@1st_track_dents]

Thank you!😉

[@keemdawiz]

I’m just entering PDR but I work for BMW too doing dent repair there in North America

[@1st_track_dents]

I wish you all the best, they are great cars to work on 👍

[@robertdiamondoil2384]

You Sir are a Master

[@TheSonicEnergy]

Love your videos man, keep up the good work. I have a question I popped a dent out using the hot glue method, but I notice popping the dent out, it has left bubble bumps on surface & why does the dent easily goes back in like how it was, when I apply small pressure on it ?

[@1st_track_dents]

Hi, this could be due to a few reasons, maybe there is still glue residue left on the panel or maybe it has had a poor paint job previously and the heat from the glue has damaged the poor paint finish. If the dent just pops back in then, either you need to release the crowns around it or the metal is stretched. 👍

[@Velo1010]

So I have a 2018 Grand Cherokee with a dent on the body line. The place I took it to said it would cost about $1000.00. Then mentioned it’s possible that removing the dent could cause the pain to chip. What do you think on a fair young vehicle? To add my dent is the same size as the one shown in the video, except it’s on the door.

[@ania8286]

You're Amazing! Where can I find your method in Italy?

[@T3glider]

You didn’t fool any of your regular viewers … we knew you would push.

[@aaronaguayo4941]

Thank you my friend you're the best 😊

[@richardmock3198]

Done a cracking job on that

[@1st_track_dents]

Thanks Richard!

[@mariusnechifor312]

Hello! I would like to know where you bought your dent bars and tips from (for example a site where I can find them as I live abroad). Thank you!

[@soperdiact838]

So are plastic tipped tools the standard today? I've been watching PDR stuff for years and people always used just rounded metal tools to push out dents before.

[@michi386]

what´s the temperature you are using to heat up the paint? thx

[@woodchuck243]

Great fun to watch

[@johncunningham1498]

Superb job.... well done

[@vekicpetar]

Hello! You make great videos, I am going to try it out myself :) How much time is needed for some repairs? Cheers!

[@dmahn90]

Cracking work. 👏

[@billcui7827]

sharp cross bodyline first choice as you.you are win.glue pull get risk sometime.

[@armen8927]

Very good job. Super master 👍🏻

[@marcinpalczewski3881]

How long you repaired this?

[@joelinden1579]

Great video Jake, you are an amazing pdr tech. What bar and screw on tips do you use? Do you have a link?

[@1st_track_dents]

Thanks Joe, the 24 inch double bend tool I use all the time from Ultra is here, this is a great all rounder bar: www.ultradenttools.com/products/st3802-24-x-7-16-screwtip-dbl-bend-90?_pos=3&_sid=d6dbd8607&_ss=r The A44 tip set that accompanies the 24 inch double bend tool: www.ultradenttools.com/products/a44-7-16-6-pc-tip-set-and-tip-holder?_pos=1&_sid=5430179c2&_ss=r Hope that helps 👍

[@joelinden1579]

@@1st_track_dents thanks for that Jake, appreciate it mate👍

[@jimd8752]

Great work!

[@adriancarter825]

Great to see the dent disappear, my problem is astra k off side wheel arch it appears to be double skinned so how can this dent be done it’s quite a sharp dent

[@1st_track_dents]

Hi Adrian, yes dents in the rear arch are always a problem as most cars except for a few are all double skinned here. So the only real option is glue pulling although if the dent is too sharp, this approach may not work. The other option is to get a thin bar from inside the boot/trunk, I would also strip out the wing liner/stoneguard as sometimes you can get lucky and find a factory hole for tool access. Failing that it may need to be repaired and painted. PDR is great but we still can't guarantee that every dent can be removed. If we can't get behind it then there is not much else we can do. Good Luck 👍

[@adriancarter825]

@@1st_track_dents thanks for your reply, I will look inside the boot for access never thought of that thanks again , it’s really annoying it was an old man who done it parked next to me I had reversed into space out the way he came next to me in a virtual empty car park when I saw him do it I did not notice ding it was when I washed car to my hotter there it was .

[@1st_track_dents]

@@adriancarter825 Sorry to hear that, yes I don't know why people park next to another car in an empty car park? I have this conversation nearly every day with customers, I think people like to align their car next to another as they can't see the parking bay lines? Nearly all of my day to day work are dents caused in car parks so you are not alone. Yes the boot may be your only option for access. 👍

[@adriancarter825]

@@1st_track_dents thanks again I am now subscribed I find dent removal very interesting

[@1st_track_dents]

@@adriancarter825 Thanks Adrian, great to have you onboard! 👍

[@sheikh8980]

Pdr options are not always the cheapest option, it would be nice if it was.

[@octaneparker6200]

How long did repair take.

[@1st_track_dents]

Probably took about a couple of hours on this one, everything went smoothly as the access was great:-)

[@IsleOfFeldspar]

‘microlow’ heh. love the terminology