DIY Paintless Dent Repair (PDR) w/ CHEAP Amazon Products!

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MasterOfNone

MasterOfNone

Күн бұрын

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@christophermisiano5769
@christophermisiano5769 7 ай бұрын
PDR tech here. Some of those dents have crowns those need to be tapped down to relieve pressure off the dent. Try the black glue and make sure surface and tabs are super clean. I've been doing this since 98 it is an art. Board placement is everything. Also cross checking is very important dents need to be looked at vertically as well as horizontally.
@bmwflyfisher
@bmwflyfisher 7 ай бұрын
Agreed. I just bought a similar kit because of a HUGE (3.5”) door ding crease from a windy day at the park. It happens. I can tell you the lifter is not bad. The tabs SUCK in these kits. Also, the glue sticks are horrible. Buy some good glue for your temperature and humidity area. If you buy a crease or round tab variety pack, Anson Tools puts in 4 of their round tabs. All were fantastic. Tapping down seemed workable in the kit. Watch Dent Time…He has some great tutorial videos for free. As this Tech said…The light board placement is critical. Overall, the OP of the video had a great start, and it looks like you watched a video or two. Btw, even the weak pulls from the tabs still move the metal…Might be very small, but it always moves a little (except crowns). As the Tech said…Without the crowns being tapped down…And the sharp pointed dints being tapped into a larger shallow dent…Sometimes the metal just moves to a point and stalemate. Alleviate the stress…If you over do it…Pull it some more. Again, I’m not a professional. Just took out a simple door ding, a deep door ding on a body line, and then a door ding on a hard body line with a LONG CREASE. I got them 98%. I had to watch the Dent Time videos 2-3 times. Great job starting!
@ray6976
@ray6976 6 ай бұрын
Yep..that is an art. Those same tools in someone experienced hands and it would be perfect. Should have taken a hammer to some random sheetmetal first to practice.
@MasterOfNoneMechanic
@MasterOfNoneMechanic 6 ай бұрын
If it is more than a simple door ding, I'd hire a pro like you. Or if I were looking for a perfect result. I just wanted to show, if you handed some cheap tool to a complete novice, what he could realistically do.
@edwinmedina4338
@edwinmedina4338 6 ай бұрын
Starting my PDR Journey here, it's not for the faint of heart! It's overwhelming with just the tools alone not to mention understanding and manipulation of material and panels
@42bill
@42bill 5 ай бұрын
@@MasterOfNoneMechanicin a nutshell, every dent that you tried to use a dent rod on, was made worse. Not better. Which is what you did conclude in your video. As for your glue pulling, you did get lucky with that first round soft dent and it came out 90%. But that will encourage others to try this, and if your glue tabs actually stuck how they are supposed to, you would have made many high spots which then have to be tapped down, which is 90% of the job on a typical glue pull. It also takes many years of experience to do.
@teslamr7333
@teslamr7333 7 ай бұрын
Great video, I had this huge dent on my plastic bumper, I couldn’t believe just using boiling water and elbow grease took out the dent.
@carpathia1221
@carpathia1221 5 ай бұрын
I like that you showed real struggle and not some "impressive magic" look-what-I-did-I want-a-cookie-now...like a lot the of these "pros" on youtube. I'm looking to do this myself. Good job!!!
@thadsgudenuff
@thadsgudenuff 18 күн бұрын
Seriously, thanks for posting this video! When any craftsman is good at what they do, they tend to make it look too easy. So I really liked seeing the results you were able to get with minimal equipment. I'd also like to give a shout out to the pros that gave advice in the comments. I live in the area western NC that was damaged by the recent storm. Lots of cars and trucks are damaged. Including my vehicles. I'm going to give this a try.
@tomperkins5657
@tomperkins5657 Ай бұрын
I cannot tell you what a blessing this video is. You make SO much sense. As we speak I am ordering the Amazon products as well. I would say the three or four other videos I "used" were duds - especially the toilet plunger. You have to have a "perfect" dent where the cup covers it completely or you get no suction. Stay tuned!
@ReptilWithIpods22
@ReptilWithIpods22 4 ай бұрын
you said you don't like the slide hammer... right as it produced the best individual result in the whole video pulling up that big drivers side dent
@CaptainSwoop
@CaptainSwoop 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for an intelligent, well presented, very helpful video. All the best from Australia.
@mk3ferret
@mk3ferret 2 ай бұрын
Paint and body guy here And there's a reason I learned paint and body work
@kumaSOevl
@kumaSOevl 22 күн бұрын
Amazing video and commentary. This is probably the best PDR video I’ve seen
@67scout73
@67scout73 3 ай бұрын
From one beginner/experimenter to another - watch more training videos. You will learn how to use the glue tabs in conjunction with tapping down high points to get excellent results. The dents on your Miata are relatively easy to repair once you have a strategy that works for you. I agree that some pads are needed to prevent dimples, as well as more training as to where to place the tool. Thank you for the video, I appreciate the candor and courage required to show an absolute beginner at anything, to show real world results as a beginner. I will purchase some of the tools you linked to add to my small Amazon kit. I have also made my own tools along the way to accommodate the specific needs of my Miata's dents. I found that a 1200 watt Magnetic Induction Heater Kit was/is extremely useful in shaping the exact shape of tool needed for any given dent, and then I add that tool to my collection. On a side note, that same tool has infinite number of uses - one of my favorite tools limited only by the bounds of your creativity. It can even be used to heat up body panels by being placed over the panel, despite being parallel to it rather than encircling it.
@ShellShockerSporanox
@ShellShockerSporanox 6 ай бұрын
Enjoyable video lol, I like how you break it down into small, simple steps and narrate clearly.
@trytellingthetruth.2068
@trytellingthetruth.2068 9 ай бұрын
When using tools (bars) you should also use the reflective board. It gives you a much better chance of seeing where the tool tip is in relation to the area you're trying to left. Good work on the glue pulling. 👍
@lorddiablo8575
@lorddiablo8575 2 ай бұрын
I did it before and actually its not that easy as on KZbin. You got to be patient and work on it ! You also need to get use to the Sliding hammer which is a very good tool. Pulling the dents out from the fender ( near wheel edge ) is very difficult as it is bended inside and the edge holds very strong so you need to use the PDR rods with different rubber tips meanwhile use hammer to make crowns go down .... As a beginner, you'd done a great job ! Thanks for sharing .... Good Luck to your upcoming PDR projects !
@ritamachia3354
@ritamachia3354 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for this video. Exactly the kind of information I was looking for.
@llamacebu216
@llamacebu216 4 ай бұрын
When pulling dents start from the outside and work your way in
@jakesbaked4206
@jakesbaked4206 7 ай бұрын
The passenger side fender turned out real good
@willf5768
@willf5768 Ай бұрын
Probably one of the best videos I've seen in the subject matter. Rods need to be really used with extreme care (autobody guy talking) been there done that. When using the glue tabs I would hold pressure on the dents and with the mallet pointed thingy tap gently around yhec parameter of the dent. I think heating the metal is a must a lot of people i see don't do this and their results are not great. The light I could see being helpful as a guide but maybe something magnetic instead of suction cups. But great job on the video 😊👍
@bcr003
@bcr003 3 ай бұрын
Mission accomplished... 100%. As someone that's never done this but curious what I likely will experience, this video is magnificent! I at least now know I'll hire a trained eye and focus on making my living doing what I'm better at.
@richardpelzer3797
@richardpelzer3797 8 ай бұрын
You did good, start at the small end of the dent first, small led light eith a magnet is good, and so many different rod shapes you could use or make, even out of cheep pry bars from hf. Even out of wood tapered down. Good idea using rubber tips
@MasterOfNoneMechanic
@MasterOfNoneMechanic 8 ай бұрын
Thanks! Yeah the "pry bar" method was... tough to master.
@DizConnected
@DizConnected 3 ай бұрын
I'm impressed with the glue stix method, I might order me a kit. A couple of things I might try to get the glue to stick better will be use panel prep to clean the area, and maybe 3000 grit sandpaper to lightly scuff the paint for the glue to adhere too. Not sure how to make it stick to the dent puller side better yet.
@Shifteeer
@Shifteeer Ай бұрын
very helpful, I recently got a really big dent on my e36's driver side door. lets see if this video helps me fix it...
@youdoer
@youdoer 3 ай бұрын
I saw another video that uses cactus juice to help with the glue. Great video. Thanks.
@K_spawn
@K_spawn 6 ай бұрын
I bought the harbor freight body and fender kit, and restored a nasty hit in my rear fender, it's not perfect but it isn't noticeable anymore
@pauldimarco9718
@pauldimarco9718 Ай бұрын
Thanks for making this vid… doesn’t look too terribly difficult. Think I’ll give it a go
@Starry_Night_Sky7455
@Starry_Night_Sky7455 3 ай бұрын
Im happy that car is getting some love.
@hemtet5500
@hemtet5500 Ай бұрын
Very enjoyable exactly what I needed to see.
@extrememike
@extrememike 2 ай бұрын
Very nice Milwaukee tool set!
@mjpottertx
@mjpottertx 5 ай бұрын
Have you tried any on the top surface? I have about 20 small hail dents, about half of them hard to see, all on the hood, trunk, or top.
@chrismillman7009
@chrismillman7009 6 ай бұрын
Superb video... I have a pdr kit.. and the tabs fall off... pros make it look sooo easy...
@PaulHayman-tq5kb
@PaulHayman-tq5kb Ай бұрын
When they they're doing PDR is As if they have some sort of magic powers over the dent
@MrJustoverissimo
@MrJustoverissimo Ай бұрын
Release the tension on the perimeter of the dent after pulling... use a hard rubber hammer..few taps around the hedge of what the lamp shows will help to release tension for the next pull
@salmaida3849
@salmaida3849 4 ай бұрын
Great informative video that helps my learning curve when trying this myself. Thanks
@thiagobanker
@thiagobanker 11 ай бұрын
Good luck with the channel!!!
@awesomekidthe2nd
@awesomekidthe2nd 3 ай бұрын
Start from the outside in, while tapping the high points down to help spread the metal.
@LoneWolfPerception
@LoneWolfPerception 5 ай бұрын
Once it gets hard to see the dent on dull paint, I've seen others put some tape over the area to add reflection for the final bits. Can't hurt to try.
@Flip_Switch
@Flip_Switch 6 ай бұрын
Great Video! thanks for taking time to make it. I would recommend a Tri pod for your light! :D
@vishnabist270
@vishnabist270 Ай бұрын
Very informative, thanks a lot
@BeHappyLiveLife
@BeHappyLiveLife 6 күн бұрын
So the suction dent pullers didn't work at all. I thought the Amazon videos looked off.
@gregorystewart6539
@gregorystewart6539 5 ай бұрын
Use some JB Weld for plastic to repair the light. Very useful product line.
@cristianriutort1
@cristianriutort1 3 ай бұрын
I bought almost the same kit. Dent repair is not as easy as it looks. Takes time to learn how to use every tool properly and how to work around the dent.
@MrWoofie62
@MrWoofie62 Ай бұрын
I forgot to buy Isopropyl Alcohol for cleaning the surface of three thumbnail-sized dents on my black car door which would have meant a 40-mile round trip to buy some from town. Still, luckily wifey said to try using some Hand sanitiser which we had because it was 70% alcohol. Amazingly it worked like a charm making the tabs stick well, but, I don't know if it would work as well on larger dents...
@malcolmdastur4411
@malcolmdastur4411 5 ай бұрын
You are doing a great job. Very good video.🙂🙂
@R34l1ty4U
@R34l1ty4U 4 ай бұрын
Respect to the professionals but the advantage of getting those tools and trying by yourself is that 1. you will gain experience and eventually learn with patience. 2. You can do as many as you have accumulated over time. 3. Pros are very expensive. A 1 inch ding repair cost $150 in my area. I already got 95% repairs on 3 dings of my wife's new car that happened on the hood that occurred just a week after she got it and a huge fender strike by a electric mopad run-away kid on my own car. (Quoted $600-900 by local PDR pros while the actual panel cost $350 painted... Not including installation). For a small fraction you can get those tools and have at least a 80% repair. Then bring it to a PDR pro for a final (and cheaper) repair. So, no harm on having those cheap sets and trying to save some of your hard-earned money while increasing knowlwedge. 😊
@MasterOfNoneMechanic
@MasterOfNoneMechanic 4 ай бұрын
You got it, agree with everything you said. The key points of the video was, 1) it's pretty cheap to get started, 2) don't expect perfect results first time, 3) it's not THAT hard to take out simple dings, and 4) call a professional if you have a big ol' dent on your hands. Everybody's gotta start somewhere.
@joyfulwarrior7597
@joyfulwarrior7597 8 ай бұрын
super glue the light to the suction cup
@EvanPang-w4i
@EvanPang-w4i 5 ай бұрын
6:44 from that distance I couldn’t even tell there was a dent to begin with!
@accelmargn
@accelmargn 6 ай бұрын
Dip the bars in a plastic coating to make them less harsh
@digitalversatilediscjockey3465
@digitalversatilediscjockey3465 4 ай бұрын
Heat shrink or electric tape over the tips right
@csan255
@csan255 2 ай бұрын
Or dip the tip to a plastic dip liquid you can get at HD. It comes in yellow color
@theaussienurseflipper.8113
@theaussienurseflipper.8113 5 ай бұрын
Great video mate, wrong glue, U need the black one, cheers Graham
@MasterOfNoneMechanic
@MasterOfNoneMechanic 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for watching! Yeah, I'm starting to suspect that I didn't use the best glue...
@MJJCvideo
@MJJCvideo 6 ай бұрын
@MasterOfNone Good,may I know if it's ok for you to review our foam cannon S V3.0?Thanks in advance!😊
@SirCavemaninthewest
@SirCavemaninthewest 2 ай бұрын
a tripod for the light would be great lol
@wthomas5697
@wthomas5697 Ай бұрын
Interesting video.
@wam7484
@wam7484 28 күн бұрын
The suction cup problem with the light. Water helps. Silicone grease or even Vaseline even better.
@hparkersd
@hparkersd 3 ай бұрын
My Miata has very similar parking lot dents. People just don’t see the car when parked.
@Jan_Seidel
@Jan_Seidel 8 ай бұрын
Suction cups with an air pump will do a way better job. And I have never seen so short dent rods. I have a striped hand sail instead of the striped led lamp. Does the same job, but is way easier to handle. But all in all it looks *way* better now
@eddy.F-63
@eddy.F-63 9 ай бұрын
Bel video, ottima esperienza grazie, nice and interesting video thank you
@bbaaspencer1
@bbaaspencer1 2 ай бұрын
Rods are really good for hail damaged dents in your hood
@miladmohseni6949
@miladmohseni6949 3 ай бұрын
Great job
@Slingersbullseye
@Slingersbullseye 3 ай бұрын
Suction cups don't work near body lines with small dips/dents. it needs to be on flat surface that doesn't have a line close to it otherwise you're best bet is using the "glue" and pull method it will grab and pull better on small *dings. on bigger surfaces haven't tried can't say.
@whojackson
@whojackson 5 ай бұрын
i would like to see more videos like this
@jamesgowing3856
@jamesgowing3856 3 ай бұрын
Why didn't you use the glue stick to hold the light using the suction device?
@Ellieannna
@Ellieannna 2 ай бұрын
Try using a dab of that glue on the light suction cup. You can remove it after the dent is fixed ;)
@vertualsurfing
@vertualsurfing 8 ай бұрын
GREAT VIDEO!!!.. I FELT LIKE: ''I WAS WATCHING MYSELF!!!" hahahaha!!!.. Really Great 'Truthful, Honest, HELPFUL' PDR VIDEO.. Good Job.. & Soo Glad You left 'the busting of the lamp' in.. 10 out of 10 Bub!!..
@azar_asar2909
@azar_asar2909 6 ай бұрын
"Your expertise is truly inspiring! Would you please consider letting me be your assistant in learning DIY paintless dent repair? I'm eager to learn and assist in any way I can. Thanks for considering!
@adamjones7497
@adamjones7497 7 ай бұрын
Keep in mind that these videos show professionals with pro pdr gear, charging the car owners hundreds, if not thousands of dollars to repair.
@adilator
@adilator 27 күн бұрын
The problem I have is the hot glue not sticking enough to the car. That's the only thing preventing me from doing this.
@das250250
@das250250 3 ай бұрын
the glue was meant for the light fixture :-)
@petroflorence7962
@petroflorence7962 2 ай бұрын
Pop out from under cover fender
@RobertWarner-p2f
@RobertWarner-p2f 2 ай бұрын
I tried using a good hair dryer to heat the panel and it loosened the glue. I've done pretty good with a 15 dollar tool kit from harbor freight. Many pulls to get it done though. I'm working on the bed of my truck above the wheel well. Many dents and a few with creases. Id say I've gotten 80% of it out but, I'm not done yet. Truck had rear end collision before I bought it. So you can imagine the crinkle above both wheel wells would look.
@PaulHayman-tq5kb
@PaulHayman-tq5kb Ай бұрын
When you get the dimples your push to hard and do the tap down
@stephenjones4013
@stephenjones4013 Күн бұрын
Spray suction cup with water first
@grumpyjuicetrucking
@grumpyjuicetrucking 5 ай бұрын
I think ur supposed to twist the rod not use it as a pry bar
@Infantry4Life.RealWarFighters
@Infantry4Life.RealWarFighters 28 күн бұрын
You need to spend more time on each dent. I was able to make mine perfect… But it generally took me about 2 to 3 hours per dent.
@bbaaspencer1
@bbaaspencer1 2 ай бұрын
I think I would have tried the little suction cup on the first one
@ZomBeatBrainZ
@ZomBeatBrainZ 8 ай бұрын
Try the black glue.
@csan255
@csan255 2 ай бұрын
Where can you get the black glue and does it have a name brand?
@senorialequizio7688
@senorialequizio7688 2 ай бұрын
These products themselves & others like it, over promise & under deliver. Yes, these PDR (Paintless Dent Removers) dent pullers do pull dents but they also leave nasty bumps in their place. You basically replace a dent with a bump which, according to many KZbin vids, one could bang out with a small hammer & special tips; good luck with that - make sure you have enough touch paint. These tools are for professionals or the talented (like actual auto bodyshops or MasterOrNone) not for weekend DIY'er trying to fix nasty hail damage on your hood. The fact is, which no video mentions, pulled dents on sheet metal tend to return with the slightest touch, essentially rendering the reoccurring dent unfixable.
@imager09tube
@imager09tube 5 ай бұрын
The pulling angle was wrong!
@Plan3tBob
@Plan3tBob 5 ай бұрын
Why?
@robtomassetti777
@robtomassetti777 Ай бұрын
👍
@richardpelzer3797
@richardpelzer3797 8 ай бұрын
Oh by the way take a good healthy spit on the suction cups spread it around lol
@MasterOfNoneMechanic
@MasterOfNoneMechanic 8 ай бұрын
I didn't do THAT bad did I?
@garyWilson-rn5gg
@garyWilson-rn5gg 5 ай бұрын
Great vid, did anyone else have to sit through that stupid fake ai vid with David Beckem before hand ?.
@РусланДавлетханов-ч5к
@РусланДавлетханов-ч5к Ай бұрын
Williams Brian Clark Matthew Perez Jason
@paulwong8046
@paulwong8046 8 ай бұрын
You have a glue gun... you can use that to soften the tip on that tool
@MasterOfNoneMechanic
@MasterOfNoneMechanic 8 ай бұрын
Haha I also have rubber caps that are used to seal off vacuum ports, but I wanted to try the tools as they were.
@MaggieGreen-dx6vn
@MaggieGreen-dx6vn 2 ай бұрын
Thomas Sarah Brown Charles Perez Helen
@RonaldRodriguez-e1h
@RonaldRodriguez-e1h Ай бұрын
Lee Kenneth Rodriguez Maria Taylor Steven
@TitusChristopher-b7z
@TitusChristopher-b7z Ай бұрын
Martinez Gary Miller Kimberly Harris Robert
@PabitraPadhy
@PabitraPadhy 2 ай бұрын
Those milwaukee tools and that super nice garage and spending 120 bucks just like that... tells me you are into a well payed job.
@ArabellaWilbur-c2f
@ArabellaWilbur-c2f Ай бұрын
Lee Shirley Moore Scott Rodriguez Linda
@GraphicalBoss
@GraphicalBoss 2 ай бұрын
Good to know. Dumb product went from $40 to $80+
@dorteramacey5672
@dorteramacey5672 2 ай бұрын
Lee Daniel Clark Timothy Harris Lisa
@alrodriguez3857
@alrodriguez3857 Ай бұрын
Wromg quality pdr tool are expensive
@PaulWilliams-i2h
@PaulWilliams-i2h 2 ай бұрын
Smith Robert Rodriguez Frank Johnson Kimberly
@TheDanielCook18
@TheDanielCook18 5 ай бұрын
Dentless repair is mostly for aluminum panels.
@bbaaspencer1
@bbaaspencer1 2 ай бұрын
Steel too
@WalkerMarlon-v6d
@WalkerMarlon-v6d 2 ай бұрын
Lewis Dorothy Brown Angela Martin Cynthia
@jehlesmartrepair5980
@jehlesmartrepair5980 9 ай бұрын
Please go to a professiona pdr tech to get a perfect result. The tools that we use are much better and away more expensive. Pdr techs need years to get the skills for doing their jop well. Don’t waste your monye and spend it wisely ✌️ I think you should mention that in your video. Thank you and good luck for youre channel 🤙
@MasterOfNoneMechanic
@MasterOfNoneMechanic 9 ай бұрын
I did! At the end, I recommended to call the pros when the dent is much more complex than a simple ding. Much respect to the pros, this is NOT as easy as it seems.
@abruptlyblunt
@abruptlyblunt 7 ай бұрын
you obviously didn't watch enough PDR videos because if you had you would have known to thoroughly clean and even polish the area first if necessary to give the glue tabs the best chance to hold than you would have released the tension in the dents with those things you called plastic points (ie: knockdown tool) which at least with the first dent would have probably removed 80% of the dent without doing anything else and by trying to pull the second dent without knocking down the crest all you did was stretch the metal and the squeezy thing is called a mini lifter.......
@MasterOfNoneMechanic
@MasterOfNoneMechanic 7 ай бұрын
Holy run-on sentence, Batman! This was tough to comprehend...
@North49191
@North49191 6 ай бұрын
blah blah blah
@markearls9032
@markearls9032 3 ай бұрын
Thanx karen
@MrTarkus007
@MrTarkus007 9 ай бұрын
what i learned most of these products are waste of time & money😄
@curtishouseman9542
@curtishouseman9542 8 ай бұрын
Really? Cause he's visually showing the products pull out dents and making it much improved. Looks like they work to me
@mygt8a4re
@mygt8a4re 8 ай бұрын
​@curtishouseman9542 in his defense, he said "most of these tools", not "all of these tools".
@Perceni
@Perceni 7 ай бұрын
it worked for him, each dent is very expensive to repair at pdr places. The $40 was well spent.
@maximusraptor
@maximusraptor 2 ай бұрын
bruh, no offense but…you don’t have mechanical traits
@broderp
@broderp 8 ай бұрын
I'm betting you just don't have the skill set. Give these tools to a pro and see what they can do. Dont blame the tools when the user knows not what he is doing.
@MasterOfNoneMechanic
@MasterOfNoneMechanic 8 ай бұрын
... lol sir I literally said in the first 20 seconds I've never done this before and I ended it with the recommendation of calling professionals if the dent is complex
@dallan7740
@dallan7740 8 ай бұрын
He literally said countless times that he was a complete amateur.
@rm4po4
@rm4po4 8 ай бұрын
I just watched this video and the guy does great! It was his first time and he shared the ups and downs of his experience. I'd say this was an astounding success! Great video!
@IHadToMakeThisAccount
@IHadToMakeThisAccount 8 ай бұрын
Did you even watch the video? Dense mf😂
@Plan3tBob
@Plan3tBob 5 ай бұрын
Ahm... Did you watch the video? He started by saying that he doesn't have the skills.. Yet. Great seeing someone new giving it a go.
@markmarquez7348
@markmarquez7348 7 ай бұрын
Why is everybody make a video that doesn't have any experience no offense
@MasterOfNoneMechanic
@MasterOfNoneMechanic 7 ай бұрын
None taken - there's A LOT of PDR pros making how-to videos if you search. This was more meant to show what a realistic result looks like for someone attempting this for the very first time... which is 95%+ of viewers.
@selenamcmeekin7008
@selenamcmeekin7008 7 ай бұрын
I liked the fact that you showed how well/not the amazon tools worked. I bought one from amazon, not quite as many tools as yours but.. It didn't work very well compared to the more professional one I have at work.
@Plan3tBob
@Plan3tBob 5 ай бұрын
Tbh it's nice seeing a rookie having a go. More real life example of how things will go for a diy'er.
@MisterMister5893
@MisterMister5893 Ай бұрын
@CarllyleJean
@CarllyleJean Ай бұрын
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