2 1/4” 12 Gauge Short Shells

[@mattkissmyasstyrants8676]

Very informative.. Tyler you may not realize this but you have one of the best shot shell reloading information channels on the internet..

[@theshotgunscientists]

Thanks man we try our best

[@jeffw1246]

I tried the 12 pellet 00 buck and just a little warm for me. I cut the mouth off making it around 2 1/4 in removed 3 pellets for a 9 pellet, super short wad load and 26gr Longshot. Also used lizard litter aka tumbling media aka buffer. Ground walnut shell for buffer also scrubs lead fouling very well. Got two more new guns on Black Friday and got a bunch of shells to break them in with.

[@theshotgunscientists]

That’s awesome man

[@user-bv4xe8ml4u]

Really good video,thank you ,i remember my uncle 40 45 years ago would put car window glass or tiny nuts and bolts in in his 12 gauge reloads ,said ot was illegal,idk.but we had fun at the local dump Maryland.

[@theshotgunscientists]

You can put pretty much anything in a shotshell lol as long as it isn’t too much weight for the powder charge you’re using

[@eddiewhite9759]

I have and h&r pump 12ga turkey gun. It will eat anything I put into it. It was and gift from and family friend. With and .69 ported full choke it is and hammer. Loves the 00 9 pellet loads with bluedot and gun club hulls. I also got and good deal on some federal top gun loads last year. I'm cutting off the crimp. Dumping them out. Trimming the gas seal with the pillar to fit the solid Russian paradox slugs with hot glue. The lighter one with the hole also works great because the hole allows the extra glue to come out. I have used the factory powder as well as bluedot with and roll crimp. They are about 2.5in over all. And group well out of improved cylinder,rifled chokes and full rifling. I plan on taking at least one deer this year with my own casted slugs and reloads.... it's quite satisfying. My buddy says that we should record some of are activities.

[@mattkissmyasstyrants8676]

I agree with your buddy.. get some videos. If for nothing else just the good memories. Think about this, Tyler and Josh will always have their videos to look back on and many years from now they're kids and even grandchildren can watch all their many vids. Not to mention the knowledge they've shared.. it's gold.

[@general-Lee-700]

A friend of mine made a vary cool 10guage shell for varmints it's a rifle bullet with a cone shape plastic wad with 6 000buck shot pellets behind it like a slap round 50bmg vary effective on any sorts of varmints mostly coyotes and foxes sometimes raccoons if you feel like cleaning up after it or where is left of it

[@caseypederson6206]

Just found your videos. The 1pug shirt sealed the subscription.

[@theshotgunscientists]

Thanks man.

[@jeffw1246]

Just an update. Finally broke down and got a 6inch extension to peen primer pockets. Works great and don't have to hit nearly as hard as with the actual peener tool. And for a metal base used an electrical box plate.

[@brucecoleman1509]

Great video. 👍

[@theshotgunscientists]

Thanks man

[@DeepSouthEdc]

I hate when my shells get toasty.

[@willscott4830]

I have also found that if you get European primers, such as rio primers it will work. They fit in American hulls as well, just a smidge extra press force. And they work. No problems so far.

[@theshotgunscientists]

That is true

[@AKSaber907]

I think I'm going to give this a shot since I have a Fred Meyers bag full of nitro goods with some messed up crimps.

[@SilntObsvr]

Just came from a channel who said that the 870 doesn't like 2" shells, but apparently your H&R copy is okay with 2 1/4. I calculate I should be able to get seven of these in the factory tube on my 870 Wingmaster, maybe 10 if I get a mag extension. Since I live in a mobile home, small bird shot is preferred for defense (less overpenetration), but that ought to work in these shorties too.

[@theshotgunscientists]

100% I’d go with large birdshot. The h&r Pardner pump will cycle 2 1/4” shells just fine. It’s a copy of the 870 but there are small differences. #4 shot would be my go to in a house with small distances between walls.

[@SilntObsvr]

@@theshotgunscientists I'm not sure there's any practical difference at "across a small room" distances (2-5 yards) between #8 and #4. Both will tend to blow a fairly small (~ 2") hole in whatever they hit at that range. Choke doesn't matter much that close, either. Honestly, if someone's in my house, I'm much more likely to grab a handgun than my long barrel 870 (even if I have the shotgun assembled and loaded). A long gun is hard to deal with in a narrow hallway. I keep a .38 Super in my headboard at present, as the best combination of power and capacity (17 rounds, 2 magazines). I'd go with 10 mm, but it's just .40 with a longer case for most of what you can buy...

[@l.a.3887]

Good job thanks for the video very informative 👍

[@hobbyaddict9908]

FWIW, Ballistics Products offers a special tool to effectively resize the primer pockets. Only $19,99 and you have a nice round primer pocket. The right tool for the job.

[@theshotgunscientists]

Yeah I know but I’ve already got the stuff to do it and I’m cheap lol

[@angelajackson6980]

20.00 will buy more reloading components.

[@obbyjep7597]

I found one of those rifled 32g single shots for 350cad, sure looks like a guy could have fun with loading things for it. Maybe a bit much $ for it? I'm I allowed another guess for the mystery hole from a couple vids ago? I'm thinking the 50 cal holes are from the rifled 32 g , maybe a round ball or socket slug

[@theshotgunscientists]

Yep that was it lol they go for around $500 here nowadays

[@user-fj8ie6kf6c]

great video, wonder how many 2 1.4" shells a KSG can hold? also could provide a equipment list and publish it? Keep Up the Great Work!

[@theshotgunscientists]

Not sure man I don’t have a ksg

[@DeepSouthEdc]

We gotta get you a tripod my man. It totally changed my life. It's my third hand.

[@theshotgunscientists]

Like a shooting rest?

[@DeepSouthEdc]

@@theshotgunscientists naw. To hold your phone/camera while filming. I'm a 1 man show and it helps so much. You can angle it all over the place, so you can get your shots like when you needed to use the hammer.

[@theshotgunscientists]

@@DeepSouthEdc That would be handy. I might look into it.

[@OGbqze]

Could you do another video on this length shell, but use Longshot? I love #1 and #4 buckshot.

[@theshotgunscientists]

Sure

[@OGbqze]

@@theshotgunscientists Legend

[@johnsmith-fz3qk]

someone has wad trimmers on etsy, carpentry customs, but i think it's UK only

[@michaelbarrett2346]

That was great Thank you

[@rogermartin4104]

you found your scoop!!!

[@theshotgunscientists]

Yep lol

[@FnLn55]

Suppose the same wad with just one 60cal ball and enough fiber for a roll-crimped 2" shell. Assuming it's 3/4oz of lead, how much charge of the same powder at around 1250fps? 🙂

[@theshotgunscientists]

No idea on that one man. You’d have to find data for a 3/4 ounce 12 gauge load.

[@gorillamotors]

What was the chronograph speeds on those shells.

[@theshotgunscientists]

Can’t remember it’s been so long

[@otetechie]

What’s the extra thing added to the front of your press?

[@theshotgunscientists]

Lee load all cone crimp from eBay

[@lumberr-jackk]

What happens if you don't use a cushion? Like if you only use a gas seal?

[@theshotgunscientists]

Pressure would jump up a little and the pellets would deform more.

[@lumberr-jackk]

@@theshotgunscientists so more kick? But what if you don't use a shot cup? Just pour 1 ounce of ( in my case) #5 lead shot On the gas seal. Looking for a short scatter pattern of bigger shots to get rid of multiple raccoons

[@theshotgunscientists]

@@lumberr-jackk should work

[@lumberr-jackk]

@@theshotgunscientists when you are loading Buckshot you are mostly using lead I believe. My question is you count pellets depending on caliber, not weight? I have 1000s of slingshot pellets from .224 to 38 Cal can I run your recipe by using steel shot? Or is there a pressure problem? Shouldn't be they are lighter weight. But though I would ask the expert, before I do something stupid.

[@gruntspy44]

Can you make smaller shortys?

[@theshotgunscientists]

I have on here before

[@vaskadid1786]

How do you order that from Gary?

[@theshotgunscientists]

Facebook - Gary.d.caskey

[@richyrich0257]

TPS wads are hard to come by for me. What do you think of using a waa12 in replacement? Holds 9 pellets of #1B which comes out to 7/8oz

[@theshotgunscientists]

It’ll work

[@landpirate13]

Contact info for hull trimmer?

[@theshotgunscientists]

You’ll have to send me an email I can’t post it on here

[@mvec646]

What shirt are you wearing? Looks like some kind of a Canadian flag going on.

[@theshotgunscientists]

It’s a 1puglife shirt and yes it is a Canadian flag lol instead of the maple leaf it’s his logo. Check him out on KZbin. He’s a mechanic that’s built all kinds of crazy stuff. Inventor of the redneck lawnchair, it’s got a small lawn mower motor welded to a frame and a steering wheel.

[@troyj7983]

Have you noticed any issues crimping normal length rounds after you cut off portion of the crimp die?

[@theshotgunscientists]

@@troyj7983 No. The only thing it does it let you crimp shorter shells. You can crimp 2.5” shells without the ring under the tubes.

[@troyj7983]

@@theshotgunscientists awesome thank you sir! I am looking to load up some mini shells but I want to fold crimp to give the shells a better chance of ejecting after firing. This seems to be the way to do it!

[@theshotgunscientists]

@@troyj7983 they’ll look better if you don’t crimp them on a 10 gauge press like I did lol

[@chesterbarnhardt5346]

Do you reload any 410

[@theshotgunscientists]

Yes

[@DiodeTorch]

Velocity please ?

[@theshotgunscientists]

Should be about 1150

[@DiodeTorch]

@@theshotgunscientists Thanks. Let me know if you chrono it

[@rodsvintagesxschannel.3095]

If u want to chat on fb , id like to swap load data sometimes and chat about old guns. As i mentioned in another comment even do a live feed with our 2 channels