2.5 Inch ReadyLift Level on 2017 Ford Super Duty F350 Final Clearance Numbers

[@Tysonbarkes]

that is the most gorgeous truck!! prefect setup!!! love the video

[@EpicCowlick]

Thanks.

[@silassergio9554]

a trick: watch series on flixzone. I've been using them for watching loads of movies recently.

[@GrillingNetwork]

Looks Awesome!! Kudos fir taking on installing the leveling kit yourself!!

[@EpicCowlick]

Thanks and it's fun especially when sons help out.

[@GrillingNetwork]

EpicCowlick it's always fun win your kids get involved and share your passion!!

[@realistic.optimist]

So the 3.5-inch lift I am doing to keep the Snow Plow Prep Springs and 38x15.5’s will be no problem.

[@andyalaniz5843]

check out the edge insight cts will be a great addition especially monitoring dpf status. ran that on mine before I deleted it.

[@EpicCowlick]

Thanks. I know a lot of guys use the Edge and love it.

[@spdkilz0]

Great looking truck. What mud flaps are you running did you have clearance issue with them and the 37’s?

[@The3055520]

We’re you still using the 1/4” wheel spacers in this video? Or did the new readylift trac bar bracket fix that issue with the 37x12.5x20s rubbing?

[@1rutcutter]

Epic now you have me thinking I should do the same now.. Mine would have a tad bit more weight up front with the Winch setup....

[@EpicCowlick]

I think these trucks do well with weight on them. and a 2 or 2.5 level is perfect. 2 gives you just a little more room to sag the back. And this time I'm not messing around. Better shocks and 3.0 on the front caster. I couldn't believe that one of the front shocks is already weak and one of the backs is leaking oil. Those factory shocks just can't handle the bigger tires.

[@j.l.salayao8055]

Mr. Epic, long time no see and hear from you. Hope all is well. Did your super duty came with a "camper package" from the factory? My 2017 f.350 srw diesel came with it along with the 18" wheels all terrain tires and i would like to replace with a factory take off 20" wheels and tires combo. Thank you in advance. Stay safe.

[@EpicCowlick]

Long time reply but no camper package. 20" wheels and softer springs. I added airbags later to hold 5th wheel weight.

[@j.l.salayao8055]

@@EpicCowlick Good to hear from you, sir. Thank for taking the time to reply. Stay safe.

[@Jassman3536]

Epic..how does the truck ride...and does she rub anywhere. I am thinking of doing the same with Nitto At's...and possibly Fox shocks like I did my 15 F350. I like the fact that I do not have to put a 6" lift.

[@EpicCowlick]

It's waaaaaay better than the 2011. The new fully boxed frame results in a very planted, stable ride. These 37 inch Toyos do rub on the control arm and the driver side sway bar. Not bad, but it does. 35's are fitting OEM wheels now without any rubbing. Fox shocks are next for me.

[@juddbagladi6018]

A while back you mentioned adjusting the caster angle after installing the 2.5": ready lift back to 3.5 to 4.0. Is this taken care of by installing the track bar relocation bracket or is the caster adjustment a totally separate issue? Great stance on that truck!

[@EpicCowlick]

They are different issues all together. Leveling/lifting rotates the steering knuckle forward which has the effect of nearly zero'ing out the caster angle. Steering will feel loose and floaty and will wander in the lane on the highway. Restoring caster and adding some extra to compensate for larger tires.

[@cbake9440]

got the same one on mine perfect leveling kit.

[@bigsterms]

Cody Baker did you put the track bar relocation kit in?

[@jasonfarnsley2332]

Did you change the blocks on the rear

[@EpicCowlick]

No change, the rear is as delivered from Ford.

[@tonyrivera3285]

What differential gear ratio do you need for 37 inch tires? I have a 2018 250 6.7 diesel, thinking about adding 37 inch tires. Thanks in advance, beautiful truck!

[@EpicCowlick]

Thanks. The 6.7L puts out so much power I've never been left wanting a lower gear. I tow a very heavy trailer and still do long mountain climbs without difficulty.

[@Average_D]

Truck looks great! Question...Assuming you got the updated version of the readylift kit that comes with sway bar drop and track bar relocation brackets, are you having any issue with caster? And also dropping the sway bar/track bar did the pitman arm have any issue with a strained ball joint?

[@EpicCowlick]

Yes, that kit had all those components. I noticed the need for correcting the caster angle right away and had it done. Ended up with 3.6 and 3.9 caster which completely restored the tight steering feel. Truck tracks straight and firm. No issues with pitman arm. There should be no change to ball joint angle with the steering arm bracket extension.

[@EpicCowlick]

The dealer is right. The OEM bushing is not adjustable. It's an easy replacement for a GOOD alignment shop. Here's the bushing I used. amzn.to/2xwodmi Ask your alignment guys to set in between a range of 3.6 - 3.9 degrees and you'll be golden. It will restore the firm steering and get rid of the light, floaty feeling after leveling. I also put a link to the bushing in the video description if this one doesn't work.

[@Average_D]

EpicCowlick ...Awesome. Thanks for the feedback! Figured it would need some sort of alternate bushings for caster adjustment. Much appreciated! Truck looks great level. 👌

[@joshs4109]

Do I need 2 of them one for each side?

[@gorillaman08zx]

Joshua Snow yes

[@ohioguy4326]

Truck looks good, the wheel wheel measurement that most people go by is not always the most accurate as the sheet metal and wheel wells can be differant front to back a lot of the time the rear wheel wells are higher, thats whey you see so many leveled trucks that look nose high. That said your truck looks perfect.

[@EpicCowlick]

I agree. Even a little slope and change the fender height front to rear. The measurement on this video is the closest I've taken. Other times it is a full half inch difference back to front.

[@phrankk72]

I had the same lift installed and the axel is not centered. What can be done to fix this? They are no adjustments that I know of.

[@EpicCowlick]

No way the axle should be not centered if all the kit components are installed correctly. The track bar extension bracket re-centers the axle.

[@toms5212]

Beautiful truck! What was the stock overall height before the lift and 37s? I’m looking to get one myself, but want to make sure it fits in my 7” garage at its stock height. Love your videos.

[@suburbanman4935]

Tom S stock they’re under 7’0 but it’s close. I have a suburban lifted 7 inches it’s 6’11 and I was parked next to one I’m telling you it was literally like an inch shorter than mine

[@El_Rico_Panini]

We’re you able to keep ur oem mudflaps or did they rub?

[@EpicCowlick]

These are Husky mud flaps and they will rub when turning and going over just the right bump. 37 inch tires!

[@SamsquatchTactical]

Does this create any rubbing? If it did and you fixed it how did you go about doing it?

[@EpicCowlick]

The leveling kit does not cause any rubbing but the 37 inch tires do. They contact the control arms and sway bars at full lock only. Something you can get used to and adjust for. 35 inch tires on OEM wheels clear everything fully.

[@derekpevey2727]

I installed a Ready Lift 2.5 leveling kit into my 2018 Ford F250. Basic kit with the trac bar bracket and stock shocks with spacer. At highway speeds, if i hit a bump the truck is throws me all over the place. Seems unsafe. Do you think the Caster Bushings make a difference?

[@EpicCowlick]

Derek Pevey You definitely need to restore the caster angle on the front steering. Going up 2.5 inches almost zeros the angle and turns your steering to something like a shopping cart. I fought with this on my 2011 and wish I would have corrected that. I did on this truck and it's truly amazing. We'll worth it and absolutely necessary.

[@derekpevey2727]

Thank you for the reply. I will give them a try and hope they make a difference.

[@ronaldfible66]

What brand of leveling kit did you use

[@EpicCowlick]

ReadyLift

[@chrisegan9670]

So from reading all the comments below, after installing this 2.5 kit with the track bar drop i will just need a front end alignment with a adjustable caster/camber bushing correct? thanks for all your help.

[@EpicCowlick]

Exactly. You don't have to run straight down or have the truck towed or anything. Just pay attention after the level and you'll notice how floaty, wandery the steering feels after the level. By restoring the caster angle on the steering knuckles the steering will be firm and the truck will track straight.

[@jerryknorr679]

She came out very nice. How did it take u to do this. Great video. Thanks

[@EpicCowlick]

Thanks. I think it was 4 hours all in. Took a food break in the middle..

[@RayByersjr]

Looks great. What are the over all size of the tires, 37x?? - 20? How does it ride vs stock?

[@EpicCowlick]

37/12.50/20. The tires are load range E with 65 psi max and I run them around town at about 53 psi. It's a very nice ride. But they are 69 lbs each vs about 43 for the OEM Michellins so it creates some jittery-ness which will be corrected with better shocks and an improved stabilizer.

[@RayByersjr]

EpicCowlick look forward to seeing addition upgrades as I have the same truck. It's a great vehicle.

[@chrisegan9670]

Could you tell me what the difference in size is from a 37" tire from stock? I ask because I am very tight for garage door height? also it looks like the caster bushing doesn't work with a 18 do you know why it wouldn't? thanks so much

[@EpicCowlick]

Use a tire size converter to determine actual tire diameter. A 37" tire is about 2.5 inches larger than some stock tires but stock can be different depending on how the truck is equipped. Go to tiresize.com/converter to measure any size tire. The 17-18 caster bushing hole size is larger than the previous model years.

[@shanethompson1831]

Can I get fox shocks that work with the 2.5” ready lift? And any complaints with it yet?

[@EpicCowlick]

Zero complaints and still working way better than the OEMs. And yes, you can get the front shocks 2 inches longer than the standard shocks. You just have to order them that way.

[@delmarhokie4052]

What color is that ? Magnetic ? BTW, perfect set up, very clean. If they came from the factory like that they would sell 30% more !

[@EpicCowlick]

The color is Magnetic and yes, it does look way better than factory. There's a price to pay in this setup though when it comes to tires and mpg. It's somewhere in the neighborhood of a couple thousand a year over time. Cars are expensive.

[@themacdonalds449]

Beautiful truck what gear ratio are you running ? TIA

[@EpicCowlick]

Rear end is a 3.55 from the factory. The 6.7 creates so much power I don't feel a need to regear.

[@billp4616]

Do you know if this kit will work on an F250? Also, do you think you can clear 37s with a 2.5 inch leveling kit on a 2017 f250?

[@tonyrivera3285]

Do you have a part number? And maybe a video on how to do it? Lol thanks so much

[@EpicCowlick]

There's a link to the bushings in the video description. Find a shop that knows what they are doing.

[@Wrexhavik]

are those stock wheels with the new Toyo RT 37/12.50/20 tires?

[@EpicCowlick]

Those are the factory 20 inch wheels.

[@bigsky5248]

Great channel, I just subbed. I'm thinking of getting a 2017 F350 SRW come summer. Winter in Montana, I need to chain up quite a bit just to get to the house. Have you tried running chains on the 37s? I'm just not sure on wheel well clearance. Obviously, if they still rub a little, you turn full. Thanks.

[@EpicCowlick]

I don't think you'd want to use chains with 37's. Cables maybe but not chains. 35's would leave enough room though.

[@bigsky5248]

EpicCowlick Sounds good. Thanks, I appreciate the response.

[@Captkb]

How do you like your Retrax cover? I see they have a key/lock on the drivers side, but does the cover lock on the passenger side too?

[@EpicCowlick]

It's a really high quality cover and I like it. Opening and closing is surprisingly easy even though the bed rails are so high. And yes, the lock engages both sides of the bed. It has a bar that swings a pin up underneath the passenger side track. I actually modified it by drilling a hole where the pin touches the rail. This way the pin goes up into the rail instead of just pinching onto it. Very strong.

[@Captkb]

Thanks. Just comparing. I have always had the Roll n Lock brand retractable cover. This Retrax seems right up there. Thank you.

[@almorgan2744]

How did you re-center the front axel after leveling? My 2017 F250 does not have an adjustable track bar? Thanks.

[@EpicCowlick]

Google Ready Lift trac bar bracket for the Ford and you'll see it's available from many suppliers. About $200

[@BCM5280]

Awesome looking truck and love following the build. The new air bags look like a great setup too. Question though, how big of a spare can you fit under the truck? Are you just planning not to have a flat with those beefy tires or can a 37 actually fit under the bed?

[@EpicCowlick]

Those are great questions and sometimes keep me up at night. lol. I just have the factory 34.5 inch spare under there and I've always wondered how big a tire would fit. Haven't measured so I don't know but I would rather have a worn 37 inch spare if it would fit. The reason I haven't made it a priority is I can't remember the last time I had a flat. Literally 20 years ago so any preparations I've made over the years produced no benefit. But that still leaves the question of what would I do in case? The spare is really just a donut compared to the rest of the tires. As I understand it I can put the spare on the back because it's an open differential and keep speed down and no damage would occur. What to do? Best option is to not get a flat! I am planning to put the best of the four tires on the spare when I need new ones. Assuming it fits of course.

[@robertsifuentessquad4074]

Any ride issues due to the bigger tires? Also did you have to recalibrate speedometer?

[@EpicCowlick]

The ride is fine but the 37 inch tires do rub at full lock when the wheels are turned. I've gotten used to it and don't turn 100%. These Super Duties turn like oil tankers anyway. Some people re-calibrate but I haven't. It's easy to do with FORScan.

[@robertsifuentessquad4074]

Oh yes I’m familiar how they turn..I’ve owned a 2017 but just purchased a 2019 and before i get out of dealership I’m doing your setup...level kit with 37 inch toyo..so ride feels still pretty much stock you think?

[@EpicCowlick]

@@robertsifuentessquad4074 Ride is great. Make sure they do the full level including the trac bar relocation bracket and new caster bushings for the alignment. It's different for everyone but for me, raising the front end made the steering feel loose and super light. A good alignment shop will fix the caster angle to 3.6-3.9 degrees and restore the solid feel.

[@robertsifuentessquad4074]

Thanks for the info very helpful

[@thewalkindude7716]

Looks great. I'm considering a leveling kit on my 2017 F250.

[@EpicCowlick]

I really like the look of leveled trucks. This video is before the level was put on. It has a 2.5 inch ReadyLift kit now and looks great.

[@lolmaugh]

I just ordered a 1.5" level kit? How does the kit work with your trailer, i am a hair nose high on my 5er, and worried with bags and the level it will be worse.

[@EpicCowlick]

I put on a simple 1.5 kit right after I bought the truck but felt like it wasn't level enough. Finally went with this 2.5 kit and very happy with the looks. With the airbags there's no problem re-leveling when the 5th wheel is attached. Airbags will have no problem re-leveling your 1.5 inch level.

[@lolmaugh]

EpicCowlick does you 5er ride level?

[@EpicCowlick]

iti does. Watch the airbag install video and you can see.

[@lolmaugh]

My trailer must be a little different on height, it looks like your before i have bags installed. Thanks for the help.

[@markjustiss8733]

love your informative videos, are you worried at all about the rake of your toy hauler sitting slightly nose up? will you be able to drop your hitch a notch ?

[@EpicCowlick]

I'm putting airbags on the truck next so I know I can keep it level. My trailer is unique in that it is very high off the ground and can come up another inch or two on the hitch. This was a concern for me so I went through a couple of tests to make sure.

[@lw4ncstate1]

Does doing a leveling kit like this and tires like this void warranty?

[@EpicCowlick]

Nope. There's no such thing as "voiding the warranty" because of a modification. Maybe if a wheel bearing fails prematurely or something that could be tied to the level and tires but not the whole warranty. Dealers make these mods all the time and Ford honors the vehicle warranty unless the modification caused the failure.

[@atlasraptor9322]

question. how does it ride compare to stock, Im thinking about doing the samething , i saw BDS has a 2inch Spacer /shock kit removed the Rancho shock and installed the BDS fox it does not require the shock extender. ot i may go 4in have not decided. I saw in another video did you have 35in tires why did you go with the 37 was it for looks ? again how did the ride feel with the stock tires the 35 tires and the 37. just trying to get feedback what works good thanks Dave

[@EpicCowlick]

The ride is much improved with the Fox shocks. That is expected. There is no difference between 35 and 37 inch tires. Tire pressure makes a huge difference and I run 65 psi when towing but 50 psi around town. Don't forget the caster bushings or the steering will feel loose and wobbly.

[@atlasraptor9322]

EpicCowlick thank you when you get a chance caster bearing you talk about I’m little confused. Can you explain more or do you have a video out on this?

[@EpicCowlick]

It's not a bearing, it's a bushing. Any change to the steering components will have an effect somewhere. The caster angle must be precisely positioned so the steering wheel remains firm and stable and doesn't wobble back and forth. By raising the front end the truck, the steering geometry (which was highly tuned by Ford engineers to work the best in all situations) is now changed. The factory castor bushing needs to be changed to one with increased angle to restore the steering knuckle to it's factory position. Search "caster angle explained" on KZbin and you'll find plenty of explanations of how it works.

[@atlasraptor9322]

EpicCowlick thank you

[@atlasraptor9322]

Epic, Thanks for the info, I was debating to go with a 4 in BDS but i decide to go with the Ready lift Coilspring /Bilstein kit, & 37 Nitto Ridge Grapplers. next week the project will start.

[@SMiller5488]

are the wheel spacers still on with the leveling kit? I assume so but figured I would ask. Truck looks great!

[@EpicCowlick]

I'm not using them as they are kind of a pain to get the wheel centered. They do what they are designed to do but they're not a panacea.

[@ryanlancaster4330]

I've got a 2017 f250 platinum super duty. Would the same level you put on yours work just as good on my truck. May be a dumb question but I'm just making sure.

[@EpicCowlick]

That ReadyLift 2.5 level kit works on F250s and F350s. No problem.

[@ryanlancaster4330]

Awesome thanks man. I love the videos keep up the great work.

[@ryanlancaster4330]

I put that leveling kit on my truck and one side sits a little higher than the other any idea why? Or did you have the same issue?

[@garzadelagarza]

I have the same truck. Do you think I can fit 37x13.5x20s with your same setup?

[@EpicCowlick]

13.50 wide tires will really restrict your turning radius. Plus they will wear badly if you mount them on the OEM 8 inch wheel. If you're going that wide, custom wheels are in your future.

[@garzadelagarza]

Thanks for the advice!!

[@zfilmmaker]

Your 2.5" lift looks really nice! I had a 4" Carli Dominator installed on my '17 King Ranch and I hate the amount of space between tire and fender. I've got 37" Toyo MT's. You probably don't off-road your 350...I was worried 37's would rub or bottom out in the fender well. Have you had any problems?

[@EpicCowlick]

I actually do get it off road, not super hard core and never fast but it goes through sand washes and over some trails in Moab, Utah. The fact is the 37 inch tires on OEM wheels are going to rub at times. They just will and the more crazy the road, the more likely they will. But even there it's just not enough to bother me. They never rub fenders, only the control arm and the sway bar and only at full lock.

[@zfilmmaker]

My kit came with a sway bar drop mount to get it out of the way. Its a kit with a lot of parts, but Carli doesn't advertise it as a lift kit since its a leaf lift. They refer to it as a suspension replacement. It handles far better then factory, but I'm not sure it was worth 12k installed. I wanted King 3.0 shocks and Carli is one of few to use them. That said I like the look of your lift more and I'm sure you saved a ton of money installing yourself. Was this the first time you did one?

[@EpicCowlick]

That Carli is about as nice as they get but $12K? That seems like a lot but you should have the best riding SD around. I did a 2 inch level on my previous 2011 but it was about as simple as it gets. Spring spacer only. This kit had all the components in the video description but was only $450. I did spend another $200 getting the alignment and caster angle correct. Last step is to put on shocks and I've looked at Kings also. To get the adjustable IBS versions and have them valved right it's about $2,200. One of the things that prevents most people from doing these levels is one nut underneath that requires 406 lb ft or torque. Few people have tools for that. I have a 5 to 1 torque multiplier so I could do it myself. Worked great.

[@zfilmmaker]

I looked at my receipt and 12k includes 5 Toyo MT's, Afe air intake and a few other parts. I love everything about the Carli, I just don't like all the extra space between tire and fender. I suppose I could go to 40's but that's too big a tire. I'm going to see if I can trade down to the 2.5. I saw a Magnetic Platinum like yours yesterday with grey accented XD Grenade wheels, and it looked amazing. When I bought my truck I didn't like the grey, and opted for Caribou. Now I love Magnetic LOL.

[@EpicCowlick]

That makes better sense.

[@dinellerobert]

I recently ordered a 2017 f250. and of course I want to level it so I can fit 35's. do you think I would need to backspace the factory 18' rims? P.S. love the videos helped me in deciding to level not lift

[@EpicCowlick]

All reports are that 35/12.50 tires (whether 18 or 20 inch) fit on the 2017's without rubbing.

[@maliaika8610]

How much do you charge to install a leveling kit. I have a 2017 f350 king ranch Dually. Im in Utah !

[@EpicCowlick]

Lol, I'm not in the business. It's not a big deal though. There's several shops and dealers that do it all the time. They usually charge a couple of hundred depending on which kit you choose.

[@maliaika8610]

EpicCowlick I really enjoy watching your videos. Real informative. Keep em coming !

[@jnixon40]

Do you think the 3.5'' ready lift will have the same ride quality as your 2.5''? www.readylift.com/3-5-sst-lift-kit-ford-super-duty-f250-f350-4wd-1-pc-drive-shaft-only-2017-2018.html Im just looking to be atleast perfectly level or even squatting 0.5''

[@EpicCowlick]

That looks like a great kit for 37 inch tires. I'm sure the ride will be very close to OEM as the kit includes all the spacers and drop bracket. You should definitely plan to get the caster bushings changed to restore the caster angle after everything is done. There's a link in the video description. You'll also want to consider Fox or true Rancho 9000 series shocks. The OEM shocks just don't last.

[@michaellobosco5787]

how's the truck doing? Did you also install caster shims?

[@EpicCowlick]

The truck definitely needs the new caster bushings after the level. 3.6 and 3.9 degrees results in firm and wobble free steering

[@joshuahurst868]

Do you have any rubbing with the 37's? How wide are they?

[@EpicCowlick]

Yes, they rub a little on the control arm and the sway bar at full lock. But only at full lock and it's easy to control. Still happy with the combo.

[@mckayrobinson1951]

Do the tires rub at all when you turn?

[@EpicCowlick]

The 37 inch tires rub on the control arms and on the driver side sway bar at full lock. 35 inch tires clear everything.

[@alfredjones5677]

How tall was the stock wheels ?

[@EpicCowlick]

These are the OEM wheels. They had 34.5 inch diameter Michellin tires from the factory. These Toyo RTs 37/12.50 are wider and taller. With the ReadyLift 2.5 front level, the front end is now just under 4 inches higher and the rear bumper is 1.25 inches higher.

[@alfredjones5677]

EpicCowlick ThankYou, lastly do you know the offset of the stock OEM wheels ? I figure if I get a 0mm offset it a clear or slight negative

[@EpicCowlick]

@@alfredjones5677 I don't know what the stock offset is. Sorry.

[@alfredjones5677]

EpicCowlick thanks anyway, I enjoy your videos keep me coming 👌🏾

[@GrillingNetwork]

Now you need the Banks Programer and Display Monitor. Running in Economy mode saves me 2-3 miles per gallon 😜

[@EpicCowlick]

No tuning while under warranty. But after then, maybe. This engine is already at 440 HP and 925 TQ. Crazy.

[@GrillingNetwork]

EpicCowlick yeah these trucks are bad arss!! The Banks monitoring plugs into your ODB and gives slot more monitoring options. Especially great when towing 😀 Yeah understand about not wanting to tune while under warranty!!

[@joelbreitsprecher7365]

Did you adjust the headlights? Alignment too?

[@EpicCowlick]

The headlights did need adjustment and it was taken care of. Full alignment to restore caster also.

[@SavageSam92]

Awesome truck brother! Couple of questions, in this video do you still have the spacers you installed on this setup? And also do you have any rubbing issues now after the level? And if you do, changing to a different rim, would that solve the problem?

[@EpicCowlick]

Thanks, it's working great. The spacers were a fun exercise but they are not a long term solution. Really hard to center the wheel on so little hub makes tire rotations a guessing game. The tires rub the same but I've gotten used to it. It's only at full lock and it's easy to stop right before tires contact. Small issue but this is why people buy custom wheels with custom offsets. The level doesn't help the rub, it's the tire contact with the control arm and front sway bar on driver side.

[@ReelisticMediaProductions]

Is the trac bar relocation bracket really necessary? I was told that it wasn't and that if I drop the trac bar I have to drop the pitman arm too because if not I'll get bump steer

[@EpicCowlick]

I went through all that on my 2011. Put on a simple 2" coil spring spacer but chased steering wobble most of the time I owned it. I now believe the suspension should be as close as possible to the OEM geometry after a lift/level. I'm also a huge fan of changing the caster bushings and now think they are the biggest contributor to better steering feel. Caster angle on these trucks should be between 3.6 and 3.9 degrees to eliminate bump steer. No need to change the pitman arm after the trac bar relocation bracket.

[@sethperry1323]

will that 37 fit were the spare tire goes?

[@EpicCowlick]

seth perry I haven't tried but kind of doubt it. There's plenty of room for the factory tire and maybe even a 35. But 37? That's a big tire.

[@sethperry1323]

EpicCowlick thanks for the quick reply an info this is a good video very helpful! thank you

[@bigsterms]

What is the track bar relocation kit for? Did your kit come with it?

[@EpicCowlick]

The track bar end is one of the hard location points on the frame. When you raise the front of the truck the axle shifts to the driver side unless you also adjust the track bar mounting point back to it's original orientation. Basically since I lifted the front 2.5 inches, the track bar mounting point needs to be lowered 2.5 inches. Keeps all the suspension geometry the way the Ford engineers intended.

[@bigsterms]

EpicCowlick thank you for the help! I'll make sure I get the kit with that part then. Good job on your lift

[@tonyrivera3285]

Are the caster/ camber bushings necessary?

[@EpicCowlick]

Yes, yes, aaaaannnd... yes. Raising 2.5 inches effectively zeros the factory castor angle and turns your steering into something like a shopping cart. Slight exaggeration but you get the point. Just do it and you'll thank me later.

[@timstrempel9994]

Dose doing this affect towing capabilities?

[@EpicCowlick]

The leveling kit has no affect on towing since it is on the front axle only. The only thing is when you put a load on the truck, the back end will sag but the front end will remain at the new height. This gives the truck a nose-high look and points the headlights higher and into oncoming traffic. In such case, airbags can re-level the truck. Headlights may need to be pointed more downward also. Putting on larger diameter tires does effect towing. It's like using a higher gear and when towing can cause more downshifts to maintain speed. Having said that, I pull a heavy 5th wheel and where I drive the same route on Hwy 6 in Utah. Even with the larger tires, this 2017 pulls the same road and load at a higher speed without shifting. The increased power of the new engine offsets the bigger tires.

[@PatrickA0476]

Awesome truck!

[@EpicCowlick]

Thanks. Ford hit a home run with this one.

[@michaelhovermale4436]

EpicCowlick does your steering wheel rattle when u hit bumps because I have same 2.5 level kit and my steering wheel rattles

[@HittinyaWitDaTruth]

He isn't going to answer you, that shit probably already broke down.

[@nahteconnor]

Would installing it void warranty since it wasn't done at a dealer?

[@EpicCowlick]

If the lift causes something to break, then no, the warranty wouldn't cover that kind of repair. But if something unrelated breaks, the warranty is still good.

[@nahteconnor]

ok that makes sense. How does the truck ride? i have a 2.5" puck lift on my 2011 it stole all the ride comfort. I have been looking into doing a ready lift.

[@EpicCowlick]

You need a quality lift/level if you want to keep the factory soft ride. Sadly they are much more expensive but there are several parts that need updates if you lift a truck.

[@raptor700r08]

love ur videos

[@EpicCowlick]

Thanks. More to come!

[@almorgan2744]

How did you re-center your front axel? I have a 2017 F250 and my track bar is not adjustable. Thanks

[@EpicCowlick]

ReadyLift has a trac bar relocation bracket which does the trick. Just google readylift trac bar bracket and you'll see many providers. It's about $200.

[@almorgan2744]

Thanks.

[@bassfishing1024]

is the trac bar relocation bracket necessary ? iv'e always owned chevy's this is my first Ford never had to use the on the chevy's thanks

[@DannyParkerDirty]

Does it ride the same after the leveling kit

[@EpicCowlick]

With the kit, shocks and caster bushings, the ride is as good or better than factory.

[@kwjacobler]

Did the level fix the rubbing while turning?

[@EpicCowlick]

Nope. The level does nothing for the rubbing because the contact is on the suspension components which are not lifted. The level does protect the fender in some extreme case of wheel compression. Those 37's are big but the space for them is even bigger.

[@kwjacobler]

EpicCowlick ok, I have the readylift coil level kit on my 17 f250. I too will keep the 20" platinum wheels but just thought that the 35" tires would look too small. But I guess to avoid the rubbing, 35s it is.

[@EpicCowlick]

kwjacobler Aren't coil overs designed to bear the weight of the vehicle? I don't know exactly how they work but I don't see how the shock mounts on the truck can bear that load. That's what the coil seat and top bracket do. Are the coil overs supposed to supplement the factory spring or replace it? I would be concerned that the ride would be too stiff.

[@kwjacobler]

EpicCowlick I didn't have coilovers installed. Those are coils over the shocks. I replaced the factory coils with the readylift coils which are 2.5" longer. Also replaced the shocks to compensate the higher front end. Coilovers are used primarily on light duty pickups and cars. Coils and coilovers are essentially different parts.

[@kwjacobler]

If you look on the readylift website, you'll see the leveling spacers (what you used) and the coil replacement leveling system. It's substantially more in price but it does ride better than factory with the added look of being leveled.

[@steveweerly8290]

You should do a 0-60

[@anthony99408]

what kind of mileage are you getting and how did you correct your speedo?

[@EpicCowlick]

18 on highway, 14-15 around town, 10 towing. 37/12.50 tires (big, wide, heavy) and 4,500 foot elevation. My speedo is off by 3-4% as compared to GPS speed. I got the largest factory tires available and have no other options to set them to so it will stay the way it is.

[@anthony99408]

Thanks for the reply! I've been following your videos for a few years now and recently joined Ford-Truck.com. where did you order your trac bar extension bracket, sway bar extensions and bump stop extensions from?

[@EpicCowlick]

I got the full 2.5 kit from Rocky Mountain Suspension which included all those parts plus some. It was the kit for years 2011 - 2016 so there was one part that didn't apply to the 2017.

[@anthony99408]

Thanks i appreciate all if the information. Do you think you will do the rubber door seal trick in your new truck like you did your last one?

[@EpicCowlick]

It hasn't needed the door seal mod yet. I think the lighter aluminum doors shut and seal better from the factory. Never say never though. If I do it will probably be with 5/16th inch tubing instead of the larger 3/8th inch tubing.

[@philippestrapko1]

What's your mpg with the 37s?

[@EpicCowlick]

18 highway, 13-15 in town, 10.5 towing. 4,500 feet above sea level.

[@mxracer78]

EpicCowlick do you have any issues with the truck sitting with a reverse rake(front higher than rear) when hooked up to a significant load?

[@jonsouth2592]

Hey cowlick, those are the stock wheels right?

[@EpicCowlick]

OEM 20 inch

[@jonsouth2592]

And no rubbing at all?!

[@EpicCowlick]

Oh they rub at full lock. On the control arm and the sway bar. You either get used to it and back the steering wheel off a degree or two or get custom wheels. No way around it with OEM wheels.

[@coldsteel86]

What size jack stands did you use

[@EpicCowlick]

Frank Contreras I can't say for sure but they are the largest ones at Harbor Freight.

[@coldsteel86]

EpicCowlick just wanted to ask, I put on a 6" suspension lift on my 08' f250. A couple of years ago. And I went with biggest jacks also.

[@zakp7532]

Does ride quality stay the same ??

[@EpicCowlick]

After the level the truck needs a castor adjustment or the steering can feel loose and floaty. Otherwise it's like factory.

[@zakp7532]

EpicCowlick thanks for reply!!! Keep up the videos!

[@bretcschapman]

Thanks for the video Eric, I hope you don't mind a few more questions? 1.) Do you see much of an advantage with installing the Readylift 2.5 coil spring kit with shocks and all other features, ie Trac bar and castor? Also do you have an opinion of the applicability of the 3.5 Readylift kit in terms of ride and steering assuming all of the same installation requirements are meet? I understand the differences in rake with the 3.5 kit but was looking for more fender clearance with 37's and huge a$$ Mudd flaps and snow accumulation in Michigan. Thanks in advance for your time!

[@EpicCowlick]

I've heard the coil spring kit provides a softer ride but I can't confirm as I have no experience with it. Fox shocks go a long way to improving the ride. The kit I installed included a trac bar repositioning bracket which re-centers the axle. It also had bump stop extensions and sway bar extensions and a couple of other things. It did not come with new caster bushings but they are definitely needed to restore the firm factory steering. Without them the steering is loose and floaty. I put a link to the adjustable bushings in the video description. Whatever you choose, 2.5 or 3.5, the truck will look awesome. The 2.5 lets you keep the rear end factory and still fit in some car washes and underground parking lots. Go up another inch and those options decrease rapidly.

[@bretcschapman]

On a side note, any problems with the Toyos on the stock rims? I thought those rims were 8 inchs wide and Toyo recommended 8.5, (10), 11.0 for your tire.

[@EpicCowlick]

No problems at all. Wearing evenly and work great. Having used MT's for the last decade, I'm a big fan of the RT's now.

[@jackpayne4778]

I like stock rake?

[@EpicCowlick]

Good thing there's something for everyone. You'rs is the cheapest option too.

[@inthewoods5640]

Nice truck!!!

[@EpicCowlick]

Thanks.

[@stever4651]

Awesome truck......

[@EpicCowlick]

Thanks, it really is.

[@chrisegan9670]

so would it be safe to assume that if I got 35's I would be about 2" shorter?

[@EpicCowlick]

One inch shorter. You take half of the diameter difference and subtract that from the overall height.

[@paulwagner5367]

Will it fit in your garage now???

[@EpicCowlick]

Piece of cake but I have an arched 8 foot door. I do have to fold in the mirrors every time.

[@paulwagner5367]

I have a 7 foot door mine make's it with 1/2 inch clearance 2017 lariat with fact.20's

[@EpicCowlick]

Yeeks, that's close. Maybe remove a trim stip around the garage door? Amazing we have to modify houses to fit the new trucks!

[@paulwagner5367]

It's a brick garage ,Steel I beam header.No lift kit for this truck!!

[@terryporter9981]

Did you have to reprogram the computer to adjust for the new tire height ?

[@EpicCowlick]

Terry Porter I haven't and won't. Seeds is off by 5%. Dealers can do it if you want.

[@austinlittle2385]

What did you have to do to center your axle? Did you by the adjustable track bar?

[@EpicCowlick]

Yes, the ReadyLift 2.5 kit included the trac bar repositioning bracket. I used the kit for the 2016 year. It's nice to have the axle perfectly centered after the level.

[@starwarsfanforlife]

Hi Epic! Did you readjust the headlights? If so what did you use to do that, on the street or on a wall? (Princevalium)

[@EpicCowlick]

starwarsfanforlife I haven't done it yet but plan to do it from a distance. Truck has to be on a very level surface about 30 feet away. shine the light on a wall and adjust it down until it's just under the drivers eyes of an oncoming car. I have to look up that dimension but it's somewhere close to 40 inches?

[@gc99289]

7 feet tall. Pretty tall for very little modification.

[@bullboss7698]

Thanks for showing us how to install the lift kit. Know we know exactly how to do it. NOT!!!

[@EpicCowlick]

Missed opportunity! Was in a hurry that day. You can check out some of the other vids on the channel. Those are more in line with your expectations. ;)

[@kevincoulombe1685]

This dude can't read a tape measure

[@KevinJohnson-jc9ju]

so he isn't a carpenter..and he probably cant walk on water..but man he knows how too make a F350 nice