2 horses that hurt me

Every trainer that has been training very long has been hurt. Here is the story about 2 horses that I got hurt on.
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[@1ccTooTall]

I broke an anxious 8 yo Arab for a 13 yo girl. The horse was barely halter broke, and pretty agitated so I was skeptical. But when evaluating her I took the sides of her muzzle in my hands and exhaled deeply. She exhaled right along with me and dropped her head in relaxation. I knew I could work with that. Turned out to be a phenomenal little mare and a great partner for her girl.

[@timandersonhorsetraining]

That was a great read on your part!

[@finngamesknudson1457]

I admire your humbleness in recognizing that despite being a great trainer, you did not think you’d win with that Morgan. Even more humble you accepted that someone else might be able to work with him.

[@loesvandenberg-los4427]

Thank you for your stories. Even from the stories we learn about the horses and their state of mind. That's why I only do groundwork with the horses I train. Riding is for the younger generation. I'm also almost 60 years young!

[@CA164530]

Hi Tim, in your experience do you believe that occasionally there is a horse with mental issues that are not fixable rather than just behavioral and training issues?

[@timandersonhorsetraining]

They are rare but yes I do.

[@SG-vu4qy]

A lot of good, honest information. i broke a 20year old arabian stud that spent most of his life in a stall untouched. I took a long time just hand walking him, and showing him the outside world. He did hurt me twice due to a fear response. my error due to ground work not complete with things above him, otherwise he turned out to be a trusting gentleman. i have another to break, and I am grateful for your information of taking longer with another not so younger mare. being extra careful this time.

[@donnac.1609]

Memories.......a relative had an old paint horse named Thunder.....after being around him I calked him T-L......Thunder leaving the barn and Lightening going back! And yes every trainer has to draw the line when accepting horses for training. I do gelieve that most often a halter broke well mannered young horse that has been only handled enough to have feet trimmed is easier for a trainer to start.....a good 90 days.....get owner going good with that horse...,then later another 90 days to work again but towards a certain goal. I worked with kids and their horses so I agree that an older horse can have a boat load of issues. Sometimes those issues are so mentally locked in that they can never be trusted. Sad but true. If someone tajes one on it can be a lifetime commitment and can be a hestbreaker as well as dangerous. Does not cost any more to care for a good horse than a bad one!

[@timandersonhorsetraining]

So true!

[@kimtyndall876]

I really liked all the stories. I had one fracture my hip in a deep arena, she would blow with no warning. The second time she knocked me out there was no third time.😊

[@HappyStar441]

Wow! I too had a Morgan that was sent to me for pretty much the same reason. He had lost a screw along the way and I sent him back to be sent to someone with a death wish. I really enjoy your channel. Thank you.

[@YvetteWillis1]

I agree with you. I have only met a handful of horses like such and they are few and far inbetween but when I do come across one like those.... I am quick and honest in the fact that I will not deal with them purely for the fact that I want to be as safe as possible and live to talk about it. xD

[@timandersonhorsetraining]

My way of thinking about it is I can't get hurt on one bad one and not be able to ride all of the good ones.

[@stephaniedavis7033]

thx 4 sharing, we all have those stories and it's good to hear that refusing to work / own a dangerous horse is the right thing for some of us. too many good horses out there to be hurt by the ones that aren't retrainable. blessings always n safe riding for all.

[@Jan-k1c]

I can relate so much to the paint story… I am now in my late 70’s and have been retired from horses now for over 20 years. I had a horse arrive for breaking and as soon as it was unloaded I had a strange feeling about it…was told it was a three year old and she was, and that she had been handled a bit. When I started with her, had the feeling from her reaction and attitude that she had already been started.went through all the groundwork like a charm, saddle on, no problems. Knew about steering etc., and on her second ride, had not even got my leg over her back and did she buck!!! Did me a lot of damage and learned later that she had been to other trainers before me and had been sent home. She had a very strange quirk about her… I learnt from then on to trust my initial gut feeling and never was wrong after that… was about a year later had a bad accident, not horse, and had to retire… just be observant and trust is my advice

[@timandersonhorsetraining]

Sorry to hear about your injury. Many owners do that to trainers. I have one in now that after a couple weeks the owner let slip that it had been to 2 other trainers.

[@Jan-k1c]

Love to watch you work… nothing better

[@kathleenredick275]

​​@@Jan-k1c I totally understand that. I bought a young mare, started her, did well, but she was unreliable...she would usually ride well, but sometimes have issues. My 'second to last ride' on her was just like yours...did not get my leg over before she took off bucking. I actually pushed myself away then "plowed ground" with my head. She ran home, I walked. My poor husband was holding her by the bridle wondering where his wife was. I walked up, got back on, arguing with him about getting on again. She rode perfectly for me: walk, trot, canter, back, side pass. I got off; untacked, brushed and put her away. The next day I could hardly move. The next week, she went to the auction and was sold for meat. I did not want ANYONE to be hurt or killed by her. My neck is still bad. When I told my physician about the wreck (he also had horses), he said I was fortunate not to have broken my neck. 🤷‍♀️

[@jenniferhodell5829]

What a beautiful horse and beautiful rider. She always rides them so well.

[@janetbaker8405]

I agree that there are some horses that just can't be trusted no matter what you do. Too many other good ones that just need more training rather than risking life and limb on the ones you just can't figure out. Big difference between untrained and unpredictable.

[@KarenInCalif]

thanks to the person who suggested this topic. Good lessons here. I won't be a trainer, but there are lots of applications here just for life in general.

[@KarenInCalif]

Don't believe I worded that comment well. What I meant to say is that I'll never be a commercial trainer - it won't be my business. I *am* a trainer of my horse because he's my responsibility, and whatever I do with him is training him.

[@PONYHEAVEN]

You should write a book, sir.

[@lizmurphy3322]

Owned a beautiful young, built like a tank, sorrel 3 yr old paint quarter horse. She liked to buck. I was riding with my trainer. He told me to take her to the rail and start a canter. This was a huge mistake! I qued her to canter and she exploded. I hit the groung so hard. My head just missed the corral pipe rails. I was scrapped up. My husband told me to suck it up. I couldn't breathe upon waking up. Got rushed to ER. I had broken rightside ribs, rightside collapsed lung, severe right hip bruise, right arm all torn up. I spent 18 days in hospital on morphine. Terrible pain. I was sent to physical therapy. Spent one whole year in PT. I never rode her again. She was so beautiful. I showed her in halter classes. Judges always told me what a gorgeous mare I had. My trainer had her another 2 months. I just didnt have courage to get back on her. Sold her for one dollar to a family friend who had a small ranch in Utah. I cried for days. I am now 72 years old. I still cry when I think of her.

[@arribaficationwineho32]

Did anyone ever ride her?

[@GingerEmerson]

Your accident sounds a lot like mine and I never got on my mare again either.

[@arribaficationwineho32]

Was she ever save to ride after your incident?

[@GingerEmerson]

@arribaficationwineho32 yes. She just blew up that day. She was not a people person horse. She had just soon be left alone. You did not get in her mouth at all. I think she had been abused some but she was a reining trained horse.

[@GingerEmerson]

I am 72 now and and looking for a driving pony horse!

[@chickinpickin1]

I raise cattle for a living. I need good safe ranching horses, be it a guilding or mare. We here at the ranch will not deal with or tolerate counterfeit horses. Our mission is to safely work cattle daily, and we cant do that on broncs. Im a rancher not a bronc rider.

[@kathywilliamson1826]

There are too many great horses out there to waste time and get hurt by the idiot horses. Same applies for dogs and humans!

[@lsroades]

At a certain point you don’t bounce as high or get up as quick as you used to.

[@bitbybitfarmseast3085]

Your manner is wonderful. I'm retired now, but my daughter and I started many horses together.....under saddle and in harness. We started quite a few older horses(guess we didn't know any better) broodmares that weren't producing anymore usually. We were probably the last step before the auction. Thank God they all worked into family, trail. and even 1 decent show horse. All but 1 were Morgans. That 1 was an Arabian. Thank you for your stories and glad you are here to caution people.

[@ibrahimalghoname1778]

Thank you

[@allysondoerfler8688]

I've started a few horses in my life, and always thought that was a lot easier than working with horses someone else had mucked up. That Morgan was a time bomb.

[@mingram008]

Thanks for the stories! I rode a little blue eyed gray gelding that I took lessons on at a stable here in Texas that was a boarders horse and they decided to use in their lesson program. I had ridden him three times and was a great horse especially compared to the lesson horses they had there. On that third day everything went great. Me and my “little buddy” finished the ride and I dismounted and lead him to the water trough, got a drink and went to the rail to tie him up and it was Budweiser time. Got to the rail and it was crowded, so I went under the rail to tie on the other side. When I did my”BUDDY” backed up, charged, and head butted me in my side. I must have bounced down the sidewalk seven times, went under a horse tied up and all I saw was white eyes and throwing hooves. Laid there with the wind knocked out of me and finally got up skinned up and bleeding. I cowboyed up and walked it off telling everybody I was ok. About 6:00 that evening I was at the urgent care getting x-rays. Banged my ribs good. Hurt for many days. Sat in slept in the recliner for about 10 nights. I tell this to say when you said the dislocated hip was way worse than the ribs, I can’t even imagine how painful that must have been. That’s why at 63 I have gotten very a analytical approach to horses and work ALL the problems I can on the ground before I’ll get them under me. Thanks for the work you put into sharing these videos and we are looking forward to the next ones!!!

[@timklassen421]

We horse lovers do take a risk with every ride

[@lotusflower2838]

Thanks again Tim, your videos are so helpful and I feel the horses you ride in these training clips are comfortable and willing

[@bettybakebake]

I've spoken before about my horse background which was from trail riding stables. The old man who was a tough old dude said a "a bad horse will hurt you but a good horse will kill you" meaning we aren't on our guard when around them. And that was true.

[@timandersonhorsetraining]

Yes that is very true!

[@jmorin6620]

Your gut knows what you are looking at. I tried working a chincoteague that had been hand raised. He acted like a baby until suddenly he didnt. His behaviors were abnormal from the get go and once i got on him, i knew he was headed down the toad to a sale. Honestly i should have had him put down. Full disclosure was given to the dealer who came and bought him. I'll never, ever have a bottle fed horse in my barn again. He didnt think like a horse. Weirdest experience I've ever had and im in my fifties and had horses since i was 8. Ive trained horses to ride, drive and twitch wood and never have i gotten the vibes this 3 yr old was sending. Pure crazy.

[@OhK746]

I learned on Arabians and owned an Arabian show horse. Arabians are not like other horses. They are both sensitive and stubborn - a tough combo. Most of the horses I worked with had been handled daily from birth and were wonderful, though energetic 😅.However, one gorgeous party-color half-Arabian mare was considered not worth continuing to work with, even by my very experienced trainer. As a two year old, she had been turned out to pasture as a broodmare by her previous owner. My trainer did her best to break her at seven years of age, but she resisted all efforts and was never workable, even with hundreds of hours of training. I agree that while you CAN sometimes train an older pasture ornament, it doesn’t mean it will be successful every time.

[@bonniesears5286]

Oh Tim, thanks for sharing these unfortunate stories.

[@thegeekyequestrian971]

I'm glad that Timeless had a good head on her as a green 8 year old then. Thank you for taking a chance on her.

[@cairafeddema8752]

I appreciate the insights especially the end talking about trainers and the various programs! Thanks

[@cadetcadet1814]

Thank you much for the life lessons 🙏🏾. Definitely taking these to heart for my own business. Keep up the good work sir!

[@pjk1714]

Nice you shared some details. It's also good you developed a program that works for you and the horse's you train. People get upset and take it personal when they hear no, but it's best to gauge. Still young, and with your years in a saddle you can make those good choices. Thanks for sharing

[@lindalarson5468]

Another good topic, Tim, might be that of buying horses at auction. Do you ever? If someone does, how can they reduce their risk? I know a lot of trainers who get rid of problem horses at auction because there are no representations made to buyers. But I'm sure some good, honest horses pass through the auction ring, too. Just a thought. Thanks so much for your videos and wisdom. We think alike.

[@AdventureHorseRidinginNYS]

I've had good and bad luck with auction horses but I am Leary. My friend has always had incredible luck and she's bought tons of horses from auctions.

[@56music64]

I know next to nothing about horses, but your patience is astounding. Horse people must love their animals to work through their issues. My uncle was a racehorse trainer, my dad's and his step father was an ex jockey. Uncle, when aged about 60, got dragged along the road when he was exercising a colt one morning, put uncle in hospital

[@arlahunt4240]

My dad put me on a horse he called Merkley . I was riding him to the truck to load him up. He got on the road and took off. my mother forced him to stop by parking the truck across the road which threw me off into a lot of boulders. I was very hurt. he ran for miles on down the road until he stopped. he was completely unpredictable about breaking into a run and going wild.

[@sharonconroy4057]

Interesting that both horses fell apart at the challenge of going through water🇦🇺

[@AdventureHorseRidinginNYS]

I have a Tennessee walking Horse for about 15 years now. He is absolutely fantastic but 10% there's a screw loose that is totally not fixable. Been hurt off him more than all my horses combined. Until 3 or 4 years ago I always wore a vest and a helmet with him. He had $32,000 isn't that unbelievable of training on him. He will never change but I ride him probably four times a week. I definitely do not zone out or daydream while riding on him and make sure I'm very aware and attentive at all times. He is much loved, 27 yrs of age. I do not let anybody else ride him. I am 76 years old. Riders need common sense and big cojones. Sometimes we just can't help ourselves can we?

[@michaelchason7863]

Admire you.

[@AdventureHorseRidinginNYS]

@@michaelchason7863 Thank you, you are very kind

[@josefgross1493]

I ride a off the track thoroughbred like that

[@BobbieJeanM]

I’m not a trainer but have had two experiences I should never have attempted. I only ever took riding lessons with a deep love of horses. When I was 14 my father ended up buying a pony that sort of came with the house we moved to that year. He was a 2 year old stud that was halter and lead trained only and I was too ignorant to care. He was soon castrated and my parents bought a bridle with first a rubber bit then a snaffle. I rode him all over the countryside and into town 2 miles away and never did have a saddle for him. The second was a horse who was quarter horse and Arabian. By now I was 24, married, living in Wyoming and hadn’t ridden since leaving home after high school. I didn’t have a saddle for this one either. She was trained but was barn sour. I had read about someone who broke a bottle on the poll of their horse to cure it of that which I did have sense enough to know wasn’t a good idea. But she would rear and spin when we were a half mile from the barn so I decided to hit her on the poll with my fist. Being 5’1/2” and 98 pounds, there wasn’t much force behind it but enough that she was never a problem after that. The points of these stories is the work our guardian angels have to do to keep ignorant people like myself alive past the “wise up” age. And the problems we create for future riders of horses we have had in our care. I wised up after my daughter was born a year after buying that horse which was sold to someone smarter than myself and never owned another horse. I’m almost 71 and stopped riding lesson horses and leased horses about 8-10 years ago. I still love horses and miss being around them but age has changed life in unexpected ways. 🤷🏼‍♀️

[@NNLBC]

thank you so much for this video. it got me thinking a lot. you probably saved me from injury as well, I will do months of groundwork with the not so good minded 11y o mare I recently bought before getting on her again.

[@bobkohl6779]

Got this mare as a 4 year old as an abused mare. Took 5 years to turn her around and into a 4 time state champion. But I worked carefully with her emotional state. Tricky but lots of patience. Hardest horse to stay on when she blew, but we made it through

[@bettybakebake]

that's great you had the time.

[@bobkohl6779]

5 years to turn her around, but after making a mistake with my first horse, I decided to stick it out. It was her eyes that convinced me. Best 15 years of my life with her, miss her daily.

[@oubliette862]

I was crouched under a truck that came off the jacks and it made me do a split nearly dislocated my hip. Sometimes if i move just right it'll dislocate a bit and it really hurts, im with you there man.

[@tictactoe325]

You made the right decision in handing the Morgan back. That’s a very very dangerous horse.

[@linnvatland5785]

Hello from Norway. 🇳🇴I got a question, I have just bought a mare that tosses her head to the left «swing her head to the side» while riding, she only does this while walking. Like she is bored or annoyed. Not ever in trott/gallop. The previous owner was aware of this behavior. Do you got a tip to get her to quit this ? 😅 she also do this when she get hay,(food) like she thinks I use too long time befor she get it. This hores is 7 years old, mare and a coldblood trotter. It’s not a big issue, but annoying when riding her. She has been vet. checked. It is more of an attitude behavior.

[@JanetWeeks-h7m]

Just curious about training appaloosa horse. You have said you work Arabian horses different than Quarter Horses. I have a Appaloosa gelding 5 yr. old. He is like you say Cowboy broke. he does pretty good under saddle, just gets very stubborn at times and don't want to go sometimes.

[@jjones9536]

It's good to hear your honesty and I fully support your decision. As you may or may not recall I haven't ridden my mare for over a year. I am really choosey about who rides her . She is a great kind mare with a very nice mouth and I want her to stay that way. I did start her with a bitless bridle ans she was great. I only put a snaffle on her as she was ridden in a dressage show. I am really choosey about who rides her I am know for being so. But I have ridden her through tall crops with my 2 dogs jumping in and out of the wheat no problem. The only Time I thought I was going to be carted was riding down the side of a huge wheat field when my dog flushed out a huge deer. The dog took of at full belt Ellie did bounce around abit which I didnt think was to bad. But the dog chased this deer across the next field the deer changed direction and headed back towards me by the gate. Ellie was very excieted. I thought I am about to find out how quick this exracer can move. But to my great relief she did danced a bit and when my then not very popular dog raced about 40 meters from me she settled down and we walked the 50 acres home. I was so pleased with her I thought that gave me such information about my lovely girl. I do think she is really special. But ofcourse you have to look out for problems with out transferring this concern with your body and reins don't you. Sorry I do tend to rabbit on a bit. I'm old .😂😊

[@Alex-horsman]

Horses need attention, on high level always.

[@dianemanson7756]

I don’t understand the dishonesty of some owners who don’t reveal to a trainer that the horse has seen other trainers. Could be putting the trainer in a dangerous situation, with the possibility that trainer could be seriously injured to the point of not training again. Hate to see it.

[@arribaficationwineho32]

Sellers don’t care

[@candicemullins2158]

Ponies like to step on my foot and lean in. Two times on runaway horses and survived... ponies? Yikes 😬

[@jjones9536]

It is good to hear your honesty regarding horses being suitable. In my limited experience those riders that like to say they will ride anything are the worst to get on your horse. In my experience they can make a ok horse into a dangerous horse. And they ain't getting on mine. 😂 You may remember I have said I haven't ridden for over a year and because of my horses age I wish she was ridden but not by one of those looser no way.

[@olevakinder2308]

thank you being such a honest person or should I say trainer

[@josefgross1493]

Now you're talking reality. Have done a few like that.Realy had to dig deep down to make it happen.

[@NatalieHudspeth-Storey]

The horse you are on is your friend. His attention to you and patience is a testament to your training and trust he has for you.

[@michelleford7392]

The “old foal” syndrome🙁 it’s a shame when no one can bother to get to them earlier.

[@kathywilliamson1826]

LOL Arab, mare 17 years old. Three strikes!

[@suechef1170]

I just love watching your show.

[@pamfoster2168]

“Sent her to cattle pens to keep her rode the second winter “

[@sweetpeasandyarrowaranchdi8327]

I bought a 9 year old broke horse from a trainer, who owned her since she was a yearling. I got her home, she was perfect. As soon as she realized she wasn't going home, she started pacing. I've had to get the same headstall, that she used to have. She only wants to be ridden in shoes. Basically, everything the exact same as before. She can be very nervous and also pushy. She does not like new things and will refuse to move. She's thrown me off, when I asked her to move a mean cow. I've been using your videos to be a better leader. My question is, have you seen horses that have lived one place their whole lives, come undone when they get moved?

[@timandersonhorsetraining]

Yes that is more common that many people realize. That is why even though many owners don't like it, it's very valuable for other people to ride their horse when it is in training. When all a horse knows is one rider they get very nervous with the subtle differences of another rider. My suggestion, if you are able, would be to restart her like she was a totally unbroke horse using everything different than before. It will take time but it's stuff she needs to learn.

[@sweetpeasandyarrowaranchdi8327]

@Tim Anderson Ranch and Horse Training Thank you for the reply. I had no idea, it could even be an issue when I bought her. I can do it, with the help of your videos. Thank you for explaining in such detail. My husband is very annoyed at me, because I finally paid good money for a broke horse and I can't use her for a job. Lol

[@leahglenn6604]

Tim how do I ask you a couple of questions personally or confidently? I am not trying to call anyone out on social media. Years back we had a mare who would break 1/2 into out of the blue for no reason; later we lost this mare to a busted stomach & our vet had to put her down. I believe she had stomach issues that I missed & my vet missed…maybe this was the reason for her bucking was due to pain (possibly ulcers). I have questions about another horse also. Confidential please. Thank you

[@timandersonhorsetraining]

There is a contact me on my page

[@PersonalTriumph2022]

Beginner riders are always told to get older seasoned horses, for good reason. But my goodness these horses come with a lot of baggage and a lot are not safe ! Sometimes it seems it’s better to get a young horse, have it in a really good training program and go from there. What do you think ?

[@timandersonhorsetraining]

Your chances of getting a reliable horse are much better to get an older seasoned horse. After that I'd say your better of getting a younger horse than getting an older green horse.

[@lindachicette8354]

Any advice on 2 yr 10 month tb gelding who habitually chews on any rope or chain you lead by or lunge, like he needs a pacifier or something

[@timandersonhorsetraining]

Give him a job. They usually grow out of it but need a job.

[@annehatter3319]

? Put a headstall and gentle bit on him (i used to have a D-ring snaffle with smooth copper rollers) and then he has something to mouth and play with.

[@epona9166]

"Break in two". Does that specifically mean head down hard bucking? Or is it a broader term for when a horse comes totally unglued?

[@timandersonhorsetraining]

Well put it this way, I had a rodeo company wanting to buy him. LOL.

[@tracyjohnson5023]

Had one here last year. Came in broke and was great with ground work checks and very sweet. After 15 minutes riding she broke in two. Ducking diving bucking with no warning. Didn't even flick an ear lol. Couldn't turn her head. I came off and broke my heel in 2 and 5 ribs. I haven't come off in 25 years. Owner had sense enough to wave bye bye. After bucking off 3 better riders than me, she's in bucking baby program as broodmare. Draft cross b​@@timandersonhorsetraining

[@Bubblesandgoop]

How have you overcame your fear of horses? When they are bucking or rearing during lunging, what has helped keep your confidence

[@timandersonhorsetraining]

You have to make yourself get back on.

[@qhride1]

i could listen to all your stories all day☺

[@kellywalker3299]

Thank you for sharing ! How did your hip heal up ?

[@timandersonhorsetraining]

It took a while and sometimes it's still sore.

[@rachelleortiz7880]

Tim, do you prefer to train eastern or western style? Also, how do you know how much weight a horse can carry on them? Your videos ate very interesting

[@timandersonhorsetraining]

I very much enjoyed jumping.

[@silky2204]

I have OTTBs. Cotton attacked her trainer and would not do what she wanted. I retrain each day. I expect anything to happen. My belief is that a horse has to have consistency with one person. I keep upgrading my skills.

[@elizabethfitzgibbon3626]

I really like you.

[@rickiegoetz9056]

Love this ! Thank you

[@lydiagould3090]

Wow, that is scary when a horse suddenly goes crazy like the Morgan. For a trainer with all your experience, who can read a horse well, that happening out of the blue is a red flag. Good job for handing him back to the owner and being humble, (and sensible!) If he was mine, I wouldn't be risking another person's life on him. I would cut my losses and keep ?donate him as a pasture mate , non riding horse.

[@katiedotson704]

I had asked in another video about you and mules. You said then that you and mules just don't click. There are other people that wouldn't have anything but a mule. All creatures have their own personalities, even within the same breed or bloodlines. That neighbor that you just don't care for is most likely somebody else's best friend. Your best friend is the person that grinds on someone else's nerves. I have worked with people that I wouldn't take my lunch break with, but we both knew our job and did it to the best of our ability, therefore making a team with a common goal. There have been few that could not lay down their animosity and any hiccup was my fault. All of that is a part of life. If you and that horse don't click, then the horse needs to go somewhere else.

[@pamfoster2168]

12:42 Listening to this I would like to know what you think. I bought a 3 year old filly. Thinking she would help me get in better shape. I’ve had horses most of my life. Well this time I was out of shape and older. This filly would buck. I sent her to cattle pens and she did great. Brought her back and sent her to cattle pens because being older I don’t get out in the harsh cold. Well, as the cowboys gathered to talk she suddenly reared falling on him and breaking his hip. I treated her for ulcers, turned her out to pasture. She has mellowed. Time for me to make the next move. Do I put her into another training program? After what happened I’m leery of her getting into wrong hands and hurting someone again. My daughter has ridden her after to rearing episode but I’m having a trust issue. “Cowboy” wanted to kill her I couldn’t do it. I do think she had ulcers And the lady who has her said she thought she might have had a bee sting to make her rear.

[@timandersonhorsetraining]

I'm doubtful of a bee sting. Those riders in those pens are often very hard on horses and you learned by what they wanted to do to her. Now she still needs the original riding when you sent her there plus fix the problems they created. I wouldn't give up on her, she just needs a better opportunity to learn what she is supposed to be doing.

[@pamfoster2168]

@@timandersonhorsetraining thank you for your response. She’s a sweet mare, just young and inexperienced . I was traumatized. I gave her time off with good pasture. She seems calmer after ulcer meds. My vet said if it works.. let it be. I’ve heard the scoping is hard on them and can cause more ulcer damage. I have a trainer lined up, and a plan. Everyone has an opinion but I love how you explain everything while you train. I’ve learned a lot of solid info. Never ever feel like “smoke and mirrors” in your videos. I’ll have her vet checked and move forward with her.

[@mistywebb3592]

I have a four-year-old paint gilding. Cisco is out of the olena bloodline. So far I've done all his training myself. But when I ride him down a the road, it feels like he forgets to lock his right hip, and his front right shoulder. In a 30 minute ride he will do this about four times. I don't know if it's a skeletal problem , or that he is just not paying attention. I just started showing him about 2 months ago. And when we're at the show he doesn't do this. But as soon as we're back home again he he does it again. I got the glitch on a video that I will try to send to you. In the video it looks like he's about ready to make a turn. But he's not. It's the glitch. I would like to know what is causing it.

[@allic8571]

Thank you for sharing your experiences. It is nice to learn a little more about you. As someone who is basically restarting a 9 yr old green rescue horse, I struggle to know when it is time to move on to another step in the process. For example, does lunging need to be perfect before adding another goal like standing quietly at the mounting block with the hope of soon progressing to putting some weight on his back, etc? He has made many improvements but nothing is "perfect" and possibly never will be...

[@timandersonhorsetraining]

You have a very good question there. The way I think about is each step build from the previous however if you wait until one step is perfect you'll never advance. Always be asking for a little most and when that falls apart reinforce the previous step then ask for a little more. That way your never going faster than they can learn but you are always advancing.

[@allic8571]

@@timandersonhorsetraining Thank you, I love this answer! It's kind of what my instincts were telling me.

[@bettybakebake]

@@timandersonhorsetraining thank you so much

[@shannoncook-io1ix]

maybe a chiropractor, I had a gelding who would only go so far alone, but loved to trail ride in a group, no problems.

[@bettybakebake]

hows your hip now?

[@rutherose23]

When you say “ broke in two” do you mean bucking?

[@timandersonhorsetraining]

Yes

[@Leoatwallacerockhole]

Hey what happened to the old adage if you get bucked off just climb back up on it. Your a fraud when the going gets tough you pass it on.

[@volancydogs]

Well that's really rude to say, considering all the videos he has of training horses with issues. Fraudulent would be lying and saying he has fixed every single horse no matter what, not telling the truth.

[@rhondab9792]

OMG rude, ignorant, and irrational. When you've experienced some truly tough horses, write back after you're released from hospital.

[@jeniferrinehart1107]

Great stories!

[@dorothyloos4614]

At what age do you start to ride your horses? Up where I am we start riding very lightly at 4 and 5, lots of ground work before that though.

[@timandersonhorsetraining]

Everything I start is prospects for reining and working cow horse so I will not take anything older than 3. Anything started after that is too far behind to be seriously competitive.

[@littlebrookreader949]

You are a Master Teacher. Who taught you? Your dad? It seems second nature to you.

[@timandersonhorsetraining]

No one in my family rides. I learned by riding with everyone I could.

[@littlebrookreader949]

@@timandersonhorsetraining Wow. It’s just who you are. You pay attention to the right stuff. I believe we are born with certain callings on our lives. You’ve obviously found yours! ❤️You’ve really blessed me this year. I hope every good blessing for you and your family!

[@lindalarson5468]

One other topic that you might tackle: a friend bought a rather expensive, seasoned and proven (but older) show horse for her young teen daughter to use as a 4-H club horse and to show locally in open shows. The horse was fine for a while but developed a habit of rearing and threatening to go over backwards with the girl in the showring. I told my friend to just sell the horse and not to let the girl ride him any more, as I considered him a very dangerous horse. Have you experienced this kind of ring sour or just plain sour horse that tells you he's done, done, done with showing?

[@timandersonhorsetraining]

That all sounds rider created to me.

[@pixie706]

I asked you a while ago about the horse who just laid down when she's had enough but haven't heard back. The 20 minute horse sounds similar.

[@timandersonhorsetraining]

If you always ride for the same amount of time they will learn when they are should be done and will resent when you make them work longer. One that lays down when they think they should be done just needs to continue working but not necessarily riding if you are afraid you will get hurt when they lay down, get off and lunge, drive, anything to keep them working. Then when they are worked through it leave them saddled, tie to a line, then go back and work them again.

[@mistywebb3592]

I don't know how to send you the video of him doing this slip. Maybe there is a way that I can send it to you personally.

[@timandersonhorsetraining]

Put it on youtube as an unlisted video and email me the link to view it.

[@terrydifrancesca3637]

Had they tested for pssm 2(mim)

[@rutherose23]

Please wear a helmet

[@timandersonhorsetraining]

Definitely not!

[@BassRowe]

thanks tim great info

[@justinemorrison5553]

Thanks for sharing.

[@silky2204]

What about a tie down on the horse of the 1st story.

[@timandersonhorsetraining]

A horse raising its head is a sign of resistance somewhere. Tying the head down get its down but doesn't fix the resistance. I never use a tie down

[@naunettemartin7450]

You are a good rider you horse and can I ask you want kind of bite can I use on my horse thank you Nannette ❤

[@timandersonhorsetraining]

I did several videos on bit. The bit you use all depends on how you need your horse to use his body. Different bits help the horse in different ways. I never ride a horse in the same bit more than 3 rides in a row.

[@naunettemartin7450]

@@timandersonhorsetraining thank you Nannette and can you do a video on bits thank you Nannette

[@naunettemartin7450]

@@timandersonhorsetraining and you are welcome

[@timandersonhorsetraining]

@@naunettemartin7450 I've already done several. Here's one of them.kzbin.info/www/bejne/q2PRkIRtZqaHrpo

[@joflood]

I was curious about the jumping horse you got along with that had put others in hospital. What do you think you did different to the previous trainers? I was hoping you would go into detail a little on that one! Great video and thanks!

[@timandersonhorsetraining]

I'm not sure why we got along, we just did. I liked her and she liked me.