2 Men DESTROY Meathead Peter Attia With Facts

[@CoachStephen]

Thanks for having me on the show Lee. I am glad people enjoyed the commentary.

[@philw9120]

You two are a great team on these videos, please continue to hold them up to the light.

[@Paul-x2h]

Really it when you both chat like this..... you're both a great example of going carnivore

[@Paul-x2h]

*** like it

[@whoisjohngalt-hg5us]

@CoachStephen as a sufferer of Atrial Fibrillation which is pretty random and doesn't last long I am curious if you have seen any people that have noticed changes with a straight carnivore diet?

[@CoachStephen]

@@whoisjohngalt-hg5us yes I have seen a lot of people resolve this

[@toniazar]

Peter Attia's perpetually disgusted expression throughout the show is truly remarkable. It conveys an astounding level of arrogance and ignorance.

[@MS45636]

Yeah its like hes so above even giving the topic the time of day. Yet hes afriad to actually say much to debunk it. One of the oldest tricks in the book Peter

[@superluci58]

@@MS45636 And furthermore they told me he’s in favor of statins.. 😢

[@marneedearman2947]

I once saw him invoke "the precautionary principle" when discussing the potential harms of a frikkin red-light sauna. 5 minutes later he was telling the audience to get a certain injection, no mention of any precautionary principle. Lost all respect for him.

[@primalstate]

Share share share... this video must reach those guys. They are just not knowing enough. I am sure they are pretty open-minded

[@EarmuffHugger]

He may be backed up.

[@IBODEGAI]

I used to only eat steak as a celebration. Now, I celebrate everyday.

[@anti-christ.666]

Absolutely brilliant! I'll gladly celebrate with you

[@robertoingenitoiseppato6177]

😂

[@CarnivoreHercules-j8i]

Nice!

[@lissaToday5787]

Me too

[@sushilover1686]

🎉🎉🎉

[@annettestephens5337]

I didn’t lose weight because I didn’t need to. I did, however, lose my gut pain, dry eye, dry flakey skin, depression, mood swings, brain fog ………

[@LTPottenger]

It's not a diet I've spent any time thinking about, but I am going to tell people whether it's useful or not. Peter Attia in a nutshell.

[@kentcarnivore]

Exactly 💯

[@anacenteno6625]

😂

[@debbiebeatty8449]

The absence of humility and curiosity epitomize our Western medical establishment. If they didn't learn it in medical school, it can't be science.

[@loriwilson-n9t]

Arrogance and ignorance together in one me sour man. He’s probably getting paid I’m guessing

[@lovelylora1700]

What’s wrong with his face. Ugh 😑

[@matthewwilliams3827]

I’ve noticed that whenever I eat a piece of steak I feel fed. But if I had to eat vegan food every day I’d be fed up.

[@kentcarnivore]

Absolutely! 🎉

[@dennisward43]

And sick.

[@matthewwilliams3827]

@@dennisward43yep!

[@AncestralFuel]

To understand why Attia continues to go mainstream, you only have to listen to his various podcasts over the last ten years. His conversion to mainstream medicine seems to correlate with his increase in wealth. It is hard to get rich if you go against the mainstream. He talks about how much he likes expensive watches, vintage wines and race cars. He has also discussed that he has three different life coaches and that his number one issue he deals with is “rage”. You have ask yourself why such a person has so much rage. This guy simply started accumulating and liking wealth but is still angry all the time because, at some level, he knows that he is giving into the mainstream war against red meat as well as the promotion of statins, which he has most of his patients on. He loves to insult people and is extremely arrogant. He has expressed his total disregard for anyone that bio-hacks. He recently said he took 600 mgs of lithium to see what it would do but said no one should do what he did - implying that bio hacking is ok as long as he is the one doing it. His arrogance is hard to take.

[@AbirTarafdar]

Well said. I can’t stand the guy. Never have. I haven’t even watched this yet, but wanted to acknowledge your comment first. Now let’s hear this bellend speak.

[@maxfactorone]

Why is Peter Attia being interviewed about the Carnivore diet which he openly admits he hasn't researched? He's made an absolute twat of himself. 😂😂😂

[@CoachStephen]

And he doesn't need that much help to do that!

[@Val.Kyrie.]

Literally jut said that to my husband 😂

[@davidr1431]

It was exactly the same when the Zoe podcast covered carnivore. Their expert was a vegetarian/vegan who said at the outset that he knew very little about it but went on to denounce it.

[@Nibbs151]

Peter Attia's number one fan is: Peter Attia.

[@CatholicHousewife2017]

Variety is what my husband insisted on when he started Carnivore 10 days ago. I serve him 3 to 4 different foods each night. Last night was a Beef Roast, Mazzarella-stuffed Meatballs, Baked Salmon & Bacon Twists. Tonight will be Beef Ribs, Ham, & Deviled Eggs. Variety of foods is easy on Carnivore, not to mention the variety of ways to cook things that change the texture - Fried Steak in Lard vs BBQ'd Steak vs Air Fried Steak. The various meats themselves, when seasoned just with salt, each taste totally unique from one another: Beef, Lamb, Bison, Pork, Venison, Chicken, Turkey, etc. It all tastes different - flavor variety. Meanwhile, my husband, 3 nights ago, stopped snoring! He's only 11 lbs down, so it's not just weight loss - his body's actually healing itself!!

[@subwayfacemelt4325]

You rock! I saw a chef secret the other day. If you buy a super expensive extra aged steak, the old stuff you cut off can be cooked to render the fat which can be used to cook cheap steaks in, giving them the flavour of the aged one.

[@PamelaD963]

When can I come round for dinner ? 😂

[@CRt-d3h]

I was going to invite myself. Just saying. LOL 🙂

[@masterchiefburgess]

I can certainly understand what Bart Kay doesn't think much of Attia.

[@danielcohen24]

He's wrong about just about everything, he's an F-ing more on.

[@loriwilson-n9t]

Love the way you disguised that M word😂 I’ve been put on hold for that one before. Brilliant.

[@danielcohen24]

@loriwilson-n9t lol ty

[@AbirTarafdar]

An absolute crate in. To be sure.

[@biodieseler1]

Eating a carnivore diet does not "cause weight loss". It causes weight normalisation. If you are overweight you will tend to lose weight. If you are underweight you will likely gain it. If you are lucky enough to be at an ideal weight, as I am and it looks like you two guys are too, you will simply (!) maintain.

[@No_Frills_Carnivore]

Composition might change for those who are at a normal weight.

[@biodieseler1]

@@No_Frills_Carnivore true 👍

[@subwayfacemelt4325]

Indeed! I can put on muscle, but I'm having a LOT of trouble putting on fat as a carnivore.

[@biodieseler1]

@subwayfacemelt4325 there are few people that really need to increase their fat percentage, but eating a little carbohydrate will often do the trick.

[@subwayfacemelt4325]

@@biodieseler1 yeah, my guts are stuffed, might be why I can't load up on fats, but I don't tolerate carbs well atm either. Looks cool though...

[@TacticalStrudel]

“They just get sick of eating” - that’s called satiety, Peter.

[@kentcarnivore]

😅🤣 true!

[@davidyummus6259]

As soon as Peter Attia mentioned "Calories" I wanted to end the video but I hung around for Lee,... Blows my mind when Doctors who KNOW how the Human Body works talk about a Measurement of Heat !

[@LTPottenger]

They mostly just know symptoms

[@kentcarnivore]

Much love!

[@alpoztan]

Also it doesn't serve to their rhetoric.

[@PamelaD963]

@@LTPottengerand prescriptions

[@fabioriato]

But fact is they actually don't. They're taught how to manage disease and basic body functionality, that's all. They're never taught in depth about physiology, biochemistry, anthropology and so on.

[@charlenepomicter5345]

I stopped listening to Peter Attia many years ago....he has gone off the deep end and closed his mind....

[@CoachStephen]

In recent to his ‘work’ and I have zero clue as to why he is popular

[@JackTheRabbitMusic]

This is like trying to convince a Taylor Swift fan that jazz is better.

[@kentcarnivore]

😂

[@loriwilson-n9t]

😂 brainwashing is the norm nowadays

[@superluci58]

@@loriwilson-n9texactly. Same in sport…like ever from sugars.

[@The4thDensity]

You pick your diet guru and you run with it. For me the proof was when I lost a shit load of weight and I felt the best I have ever felt since I was in my 20's. You can't just dismiss the carnivore diet before you've even tried it. That is just pure ignorance or maybe they can't get out of their programming to risk losing their careers.

[@FlatToRentUK]

Of course you can dismiss the carnivore diet. It's low carb, well...... great. But we know all about those. It's also an elimination diet. Well..... great. But we know all about those. There is precisely nothing magic about it. Could you care to explain precisely which mechanisms you think are having an effect here to make it worth paying attention to?

[@Anakin_X]

Attia made a 180 turn on carnivore a few years back. Not sure if he got some special funding or what happened. I remember thinking it was very odd how he just switched.

[@kentcarnivore]

Interesting !

[@jasonanthonywilper]

Paid off to move along

[@CarnivoreTransformer]

The minds is still closed… 😢 sounds like brain fog clogging

[@1timbarrett]

Your ‘One Hour Later’ and ‘Two Hours Later’ cuts were so funny…! 😂

[@JackieKay11]

Ikr 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@kentcarnivore]

😁

[@KismetWLS]

I like that too

[@Paul-x2h]

Yeah...sooo funny

[@CelticCarnivore8716]

Brilliant! 😂 They were so slow and their ignorance and arrogance were hard to watch/listen to.

[@danielcohen24]

I love how they quote fruit salad boy who hasn't been carnivore for years WOW lol

[@tonyz4292]

Just hearing the way attia claims to not understand the physiology of why carnivore works is a dead give away he is either 100% incompetent or he is purposefully playing dumb

[@FlatToRentUK]

There is barely anything to understand about how carnivore works! It is a low carb elimination diet. That's it. Meat is amazing but it isn't magic and it isn't medicine. I can guarantee you Attia is more competent on this than the two in this video and any of you lot.

[@toddhenneberry6099]

Fact, if you have ever watched survivor shows, or have ever been in the wooods or lived off the land you know the fat protein in meat is essential for health and survival with out it you die!

[@bee_bee3]

I love the survival show naked and afraid! From the title I was put off, I thought it was going to be some silly excuse to have naked people on the screen, but it's fantastic! It was a part of my journey in realising that a meat based diet is the way to go including the fat and everything else. Also Dr Berry's video on real superfood vs fake superfood was a real eye opener for me. In his Dr Berry no nonsense style he said, go research the vitamin profiles of these foods for yourself and check that I'm not full of crap 🤭 I did and now I eat mussels, sardines and liver thanks to him It's so crazy how backwards everything is and then when you actually look at the science yourself, you're astonished at how the misrepresentation of plant nutrition came about and just keeps getting stronger 🤷

[@cantstandya157]

While that is true for short term survival, that does not tell us anything about what is best for longevity, I'm not saying it isn't the best option but we just don't have the data yet to back it up for carnivores. The data for a "balanced" diet including carbs would suggest fibre and polyphenols are important for longevity. I would be sceptical of anyone trying to conflate the Inuit and carnivores diet. The Inuit diet consisted of many raw and fermented meats which we just can't get today, they also had a microbiome / gut enzymes that had evolved to their diet over thousands of years. This is a far cry from Billy from Texas charring the crap out of a rib eye on the bbq. You guys are literally the guinea pigs for the carnivore diet, I hope that it works out for longevity because I think it has some great use cases, just don't put your head in the sand over the potential of it having negative long term effects either, we simply do not know yet.

[@ryanturner8577]

That first 30 seconds of this video. How does this guy claim to know something about anything with a statement like that? It's shocking.

[@loriwilson-n9t]

He’s getting paid. Period. Always follow the money 💰

[@PeteG-bu6ek]

What does Peter use for contraceptive ????? His personality

[@lovelylora1700]

Peter also flip flopped on fasting. He used to be pro fasting now he’s not when it’s evident fasting is one of the best things you can do for your body.

[@Alecmcq]

Attia is bought and paid for.

[@aaronwalker4527]

To me, it seems that Peter's egregious position on carnivore isn't just because of ignorance or incompetence. I have no evidence of this, but my gut tells me that he (and other popular mainstream influencers like Lane Norton) knows there is something to carnivore, but he is getting paid or, compensated in some way, to shill against it. At some point, the whole idea of "never ascribe to malice what can be explained by incompetence" breaks down.

[@AbirTarafdar]

Yes it’s quite suspect.

[@enidcronin9704]

The majority of my weight loss was achieved by keto 140lbs. The reason for swapping to carnivore was not weight loss but to improve chronic conditions. 7 months carnivore my chronic diarrhoea gone, my blood pressure is normalising, my activity up, I hesitate to say this all my family and several friends have had winter colds and flu and I've sailed through (touch wood) so my immune system is in fine fettle, my brain function memory and ability to respond quickly improved, and in the recent cold snap not as cold as I was on Keto or obese. What is not to love about carnivore it's not about weight loss as that implies an end date it's about improving your body to cope with what life throws at you.

[@vanessarheadart9708]

Yep, best friends family and hubby been sick as dogs for weeks, both our husbands have enmven passed out. I've had a stuffed nose for 1 day and I'm off kick boxing. I don't do sick 🥰❤️🥩❤️🥓❤️🥩❤️

[@Enjoymentboy]

How can I POSSIBLY not be getting enough calories if I go through 2-3 liters of 35% cream every week? Some days I CRAVE fat so much that I literally drink whipping cream straight out of the carton and it is soooooo good. It feels like I am being hugged from the inside. I'll go through the 2 L of 35% cream, 4L of 10%, 18-24 eggs, 2-3kg of beef, 1kg of fatty fish (ie wild caught salmon), at least 1kg of cheese and 1.5kg of bacon every week. I render my own lard and tallow and deep fry most of what I cook. TBH I REALLY enjoy the stares I get when I'm shopping and people see what my cart is loaded with. But what they NEVER see is processed carbs, boxes of starch and sugar, cans of who knows how old they are veggies or all those little "treats" people poison themselves with. However there are some days where I am legitimately just NOT hungry. I have lots to choose from and all stuff I love but nothing that I want to eat badly enough to actually eat it. I have learned to only eat WHEN I am hungry and not just because the clock tells me to.

[@anacenteno6625]

😊

[@lumay333]

Longevity will come but not so soon, probably after few generations of carnivores. On the other hand I healed my crazyy bad short term memory in ONE week on carnivore diet. ❤

[@CoachStephen]

Wow

[@Verinagie]

They dont understand one of the most important things - it's not a diet, it's life style! Which by the way leads to health and happiness :)

[@ritaslayden1829]

I'm so disappointed in Peter Attia! Middle Tennessee Rita ❤

[@neotokyo385]

I wish I had a carnivore wife

[@kentcarnivore]

Me too!

[@askyourselfwhatdoyoureally3542]

He is a supplement salesman like a lot of them...

[@olitp2364]

I am in animal base diet But I have to Say that I hate people who talk shit about carnivore because they dont Even believe that could be good for the human been. They think they know a Lot when realy they are only trying to present them self as an expert

[@alpoztan]

Hopefully they stay their diet and we don't loose our meat./s.

[@Texasfishingfamily]

I started watching their conversation yesterday and had to trun it off because they were so full of crap without any meaningful evidence.

[@Martin-bk3sp]

wich one of the parts has no evidence?

[@julienfroidevaux1143]

.1 , .2% of the population that think they are " carnivores " know better than the rest of the population ?

[@zamfirtoth6441]

Martin, you need to really study the term epidemiological studies, and realize that it is the same kind of slight of hand studies that for instance, the statin industry champions. And he, like others, uses it to sell supplements....a common scenario for utube influencers

[@polibm6510]

@@Martin-bk3sp No part.

[@Martin-bk3sp]

@@zamfirtoth6441 I don´t have to study anything...I just asked about who is right and who is wrong.....I´m carnivore

[@charlenepomicter5345]

Thanks so much, Lee and Stephen ! Great commentary !😊❤

[@biodieseler1]

Health is our badge of honor.

[@mattyswan1]

As Spock would say, "You proceed from a false premise." - I think A and G are starting with the standard foundation of veg=healthy and are trying in vain to wrap their heads around carnivore success.

[@sante-carnivore]

Peter Atia interviewed Jordan Peterson et he told him how well he was feeling on a carnivore (lion) diet. Atia just froze and wanted to avoid the subject. His science is blind.

[@kentcarnivore]

Yep!

[@zacsborntorunrunningadvent3441]

Bingo.

[@OrcForge]

They never once presented science to their claims of yeah people are feeling better but omg the ldl..kent. keep it up and your guest is absolutely brilliant, once again!

[@CoachStephen]

Thank you

[@OrcForge]

THANK YOU!!! ​@CoachStephen

[@jasoncdebussy]

Attia thinks that you can eat calories! He isn't much of a scientist since basic physics seems to be beyond him 🤣

[@andyc7747]

I haven't really thought about it but I am still an authority on nutrition.

[@subwayfacemelt4325]

Thanks for the laugh!

[@margaretblack8538]

It isn't a 'diet', it's a way of life. 30 years of stomach problems solved. I'll never go back. 😊🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[@Beth_82]

Well that was a bit of a word salad wasn't it 😂

[@vanessarheadart9708]

And we all know how we feel about salad 🤣🤣🤣 ❤️🥩❤️🥓❤️🥩❤️

[@johnm2051]

I wouldn’t listen to Peter Attia .full stop ✋

[@markmorgan8416]

Kent, I'm glad you're reviewing this. I watched this yesterday and I was so disappointed. Starting with the title... I was less than a minute in when I thought "these guys are clueless." However... I thought I'd watch the whole thing and see if it improved. And I'm not even "Carnivore." For me, there's plenty of anecdotal evidence supporting carnivore. There's you. There are doctors. There are women, there's Kerry Mann and the list goes on. And when you look at someone like Charles Washington... He's looking at 20 years, Carnivore. And Kelly Hogan is pushin 15 if she's not there already. And she's had, like 3 kids, all while on Carnivore. That's some evidence! Again, I'm not even carnivore and I had a problem listening to these two. The reason I'm not carnivore is because I don't have a why. For me, carnivore is about much more than losing some weight. It's about addiction. It's about healing. I'm 61, retired and at a healthy weight. I don't suffer from any metabolic issues. And, I really like my mother n law's banana pudding. But I only have it once a year. To stick to an all meat diet requires a why. To stick to any diet requires a why.

[@graphicmaterial5947]

The mere lack of curiosity from doctors and dietists is my biggest gripe. No "what if"? Such insolance! Drives me nuts. Idiots.

[@AbirTarafdar]

Yeah I know. They’re so mean spirited. Someone says hey I cured my MS, and they just shrug. It’s so bloody mean.

[@GillBourne-fu6of]

Dr Attia has significant medical qualifications but it doesn't prevent him being something of a poseur (with a book to sell of course) and whatever his friend is eating he doesn't exactly look healthy on it.

[@sabine8419]

Significant? Hahahaha😂😂😂😂😂

[@jaysins]

Nobody loves hearing Peter Attia talk more than Peter Attia.

[@Carnivorepothead]

Peter knows that he can’t make money in this space. Why would he support something that makes his nonsense look like nonsense 😶‍🌫️✌️

[@rickjean63]

Why don´t these guys(Attia And friend) try it for 90 days and then have an opinion , now they are just spreading words and pretend they know something.

[@sabine8419]

And make them live longer and have more energy to spread more myths?😅😂

[@subwayfacemelt4325]

"spreading words"... On moldy bread (aka, poorly conducted studies).

[@Disillusioned_one]

Unless my food once have walked or swam I won’t eat it.

[@EyesOnCarnivore]

I am reversing blindness with the carnivore diet and have the test results to prove it. Let's see a placebo do that!

[@kentcarnivore]

😲 Wow! Great username, btw!

[@EyesOnCarnivore]

@ cheers 👍

[@CoachStephen]

Wow!

[@EyesOnCarnivore]

@ we should chat sometime

[@Paul-x2h]

Yeah ..hope they get you on ​@@EyesOnCarnivore

[@johnathanforthright1902]

It sounds like they have an ulterior motive ,they say they have never really gone into the carnivore diet but they are making biased comments , something smells very off here, i think people who try to dismiss something they've never researched are trying to save their own careers

[@Singlebarrel2323]

Imagine starting your ignorant statements with “I haven’t thought about this much” As soon as I heard that on the original post I knew he was ignorant. It’s like he’s doing it to mess with us 😂

[@debbiebeatty8449]

Sounds like settled science to me!

[@TheGreatonejah]

I watched that interview and both people you can see was pussyfooting around the real issue. Well if you asked me am not tired of eating the same food. I actually is excited to get to my steak every night. They seems to not believe people personal experience, but wait for the science. The same science that gave us the SAD diet. Awful

[@sophtayl]

I was so disappointed in their video that I didn't watch it through. Then I commented that I had reduced cac etc and but got called a liar. ( it was originally posted that I was a bad liar then edited , but thevyoutubecemail had already been sent) then i was blocked/ censored from posting much more. I thought about reaching out to both of you to do a short video /interview on my results. I'm in the UK atm so was my initial thought. Cac/Volume and mass of calcification reversed ~20% in 12 months with carnivore, some supps and additional lifestyle changes. Let me know if you are interested in following through

[@nancyj621]

Do you mind sharing what supplements you took?

[@CoachStephen]

Why would you lie? It’s so stupid people accusing

[@sophtayl]

@@CoachStephen because apparently studies haven't shown it and at best they achieve 1% reduction per year in reduction of lipid core with medication. Apparenty my results are impossible to achieve without dropping ldl to 30 with meds. Yet here we are. Ridiculous right?

[@sophtayl]

@@nancyj621 yes, but most important to understand one size does not fit all. It is about identifying and eliminating the causes and filling in the deficiencies to allow repair and healing. I suggest reading Malcolm Kendrick, Linus Pauling, Thomas Levy and research Patrick Theut. The key message is to find what works for each individual a the insults could very well be different. This is what is currently part of my approach (not saying everything is necessary, but I didn't have the time to not hit this with everything I could.) -Magnesium, -D3 (try to get it from sunlight if I can but occasionally add it if I cant get out in the sun) -Omega 3 (I prefer to get it from my diet- I try to eat some sardines and kippers/ Herring 3x per week) -Vit K2 (look into Koncentrated K - also plenty to research on the webpage - there are many pathways that this affects) -Ubuiquinol (a version of CoQ10) -MTHF (to address MTHFR Gene mutation and allow folate methylation - I could probably do this with some liver also.), -Berberine/ Dihydroberberine (I havent had this for the last 3-4 months as the manufacturer shut shop and Im looking for an alternative option) -Nattokinase (I do 8000FU morning and evening) -Lysine and Proline (from my diet in the meat - supports collagen synthesis and arterial healing) -6g+ daily Vitamin C ( supports collagen synthesis and arterial healing) They are the main ones, and my diet is mainly -ruminant meat, -occasionally some pork or chicken (maybe every 3-4 weeks) -Eggs from time to time -Hard Cheese (Cheddar generally) -Blue Cheese, -Sardines and Kippers 3x per week -Salami from time to time. -pure/ pouring cream -Coffee. -Salt Mick C

[@sophtayl]

@@nancyj621 The key message is to find what works for each individual a the insults could very well be different. This is what is currently part of my approach (not saying everything is necessary, but I didn't have the time to not hit this with everything I could.) -Magnesium, -D3 (try to get it from sunlight if I can but occasionally add it if I cant get out in the sun) -Omega 3 (I prefer to get it from my diet- I try to eat some sardines and kippers/ Herring 3x per week) -Vit K2 (look into Koncentrated K - also plenty to research on the webpage - there are many pathways that this affects) -Ubuiquinol (a version of CoQ10) -MTHF (to address MTHFR Gene mutation and allow folate methylation - I could probably do this with some liver also.), -Berberine/ Dihydroberberine (I havent had this for the last 3-4 months as the manufacturer shut shop and Im looking for an alternative option) -Nattokinase (I do 8000FU morning and evening) -Lysine and Proline (from my diet in the meat - supports collagen synthesis and arterial healing) -6g+ daily Vitamin C ( supports collagen synthesis and arterial healing) They are the main ones, and my diet is mainly -ruminant meat, -occasionally some pork or chicken (maybe every 3-4 weeks) -Eggs from time to time -Hard Cheese (Cheddar generally) -Blue Cheese, -Sardines and Kippers 3x per week -Salami from time to time. -pure/ pouring cream -Coffee. -Salt

[@io3213]

I would think that carnivores eating meat get satiated through hormonal mechanisms long before we would be physically "tired of eating". But I understand it's a different story if a person eats lettuce all day.

[@williammccartney4833]

Good Afternoon Lee. Have a wonderful day Everyone!.

[@Alecmcq]

Attia is so hard to listen to… the arrogance just drips off him. And how wrong can one bloke be? Unreal.

[@AbirTarafdar]

Yeah he’s like Neil Degrasse Tyson, a bumptious know-it-all.

[@Lius-mv8hi]

This peter guy is losing his brain 🧠!

[@onlyonecai]

He never had much to begin with

[@XaqNautilus]

Aside from acute injuries, doctors are just health consultants. We as human beings have to decide our fates and live with the consequences. Dr. Peter Attia has sold out and we all need to ignore him for our own sakes. There's a reason vanity is the devil's favorite sin.

[@johnconcannon3844]

I think Peter is bought.

[@MrsMac0718]

💯

[@KismetWLS]

👍

[@debbiebeatty8449]

Doesn't he sell some powdered green supplement?

[@CRt-d3h]

I did lose some weight on carnivore. But by God, that is just a small tiny detail of carnivore!!! Among a myriad of problems. Type 2, vision, terrible pains, inflammations (plural), boils, fistulas (2), plantar fasciitis, snoring, mild scurvy, sinusitis... etc. That gives some idea of my journey. As a short example: Sinusitis, for more than half a century, I'm 55. It was gone in two (2) weeks! I was mesmerized. Even dandruff is gone. Quite honestly most of these things were not even on my wish list. I did carnivore because of diabetes. Without a clue that other benefits would roll in, right away. FYI nowadays I call carnivore a MIRACLE. Yes, with capital letter. 🙂 PS: For what it's worth I had my own 100% bio garden. No artificial fertilizers, no pesticides... Later even bought a piece of land to make my own veggie farm... Not anymore. ;-) Those guys can continue arguing their dogmatic stupidity, cholesterol, etc. The fact is I had trouble walking from my living room to the WC. My gums were bleeding, teeth about to fall... Now IF, notice the if, my back scratch is a clear sign that I already cheated my diet. Well I do sometimes. ;-) No pains, not even a cold to register. For me that's good enough. 🙂

[@masterchiefburgess]

Y'know Lee, I get REALLY tired of people telling me what I'm feeling. How can you assert that people lose weight because they're tired of eating. They KNOW wether they're tired of eating. And he seems to ignore the fact that A) most of us went carnivore to address health issues, not weight, and he doesn't put any weight on the number of health issues carnivore resolves.

[@subwayfacemelt4325]

Yeah, it is almost sickening. My favourite is "you're just doing better cos you cut out processed food". People don't like it when I pull out my RAST, which lists my allergies to all the plant foods they test for...

[@masterchiefburgess]

@@subwayfacemelt4325 Yeah all of his comments suggest that he's not really seriously interested in investigating it. He reminds me of the old line my dad used to pull out to describe people like him: "My mind is already made up, don't confuse me with the facts!!"

[@leeboss373]

The only problems with LDL cholesterol is if it’s oxidised and slow to be recycled. The amount is irrelevant

[@sabine8419]

Phytosterols are hazardous.

[@clovermark39]

During cvid I stocked up on tinned food as we didn’t want to go in shops. Now I have lots of tinned veg food to get rid of. I’m not eating it and neither is my son now. He has transitioned to mainly meat.

[@vanessarheadart9708]

Same in my home, I'm going to get my mum to shop my pantry. My father is left side paralysed from a stroke (none covid cause) so he is allowed to eat whatever he wants, what's it gonna do kill him(he does have smoked salmon for breakfast everyday though, he's spoilt 🥰) so between him and the local food bank I'll get my store down to shelf stable fat, fish and meat, it's gonna take a while though😁 ❤️🥩❤️🥓❤️🥩❤️

[@AlexProudfoot1]

Wasn’t it Peter Attia that has a meal plan where he sells pre-made meals? Perhaps he has a bias due to having an interest in selling his product?

[@GillBourne-fu6of]

Brilliant rebuff of a load of b/s. Well done guys

[@CoachStephen]

thank you

[@dbear7570]

my problem with the carnivore diet, is that for 2 years all i think about is the rib eye and porterhouse that im going to eat when i get home from work, i did add 4 eggs tonight as well

[@loribiddulph3196]

Attia looking down his nose at carnivores is a turn-off. It’s fine to express doubts and admit one needs to do more research, but he literally says he hasn’t thought much about the carnivore diet before pontificating about how foolish it is. He has always seemed smug, really, which discredited him for me, even prior to seeing this video. 😌 And I’m not fully carnivore…yet. ☺️ But I do eat heavily carnivore and extremely low carb. I avoid the “healthy” greens now.

[@rossmackay9819]

From someone who claims to be the MOST Scientific, he should be ashamed to come out with this drivel. Science MUST be unbiased, or say nothing until you have removed these biases and have completed a full and thorough study. I am sure there will be some sponsorship in the background tainting his work, and a little controversy on KZbin always helps the income. Thanks for reviewing this, I saw it yesterday and thought about responding, but I am sure your response is better than anything I could have come up with. Keep up the good work, we can't stop everyone from having these opinions. Leading by example is the main way we are going to keep the Carnivore Lifestyle front and centre. Having a Healthy, Vibrant life is the best trial and example we can run

[@CoachStephen]

Drivel is what their video is definitely

[@SpecterWSA]

Ive not lost a fucking pound in 6 months. I have lowered my a1c 1.00 though. So clearly something is happening. I definitely am not eating less food.

[@andyc7747]

Healing before weight loss.

[@-What-are-your-thoughts]

I can’t GAIN a FKNG lol. Everyone is different.

[@subwayfacemelt4325]

Maybe you're putting on muscles? The number on the scales only tells you the number on the scales.

[@la912]

I'm glad you're debunking his supposedly "debunking"

[@bee_bee3]

I think you should have played their video at 1.5 speed! So slow, probably because they're just making it up on the spot. Who's watching this guy?!? He said absolutely nothing, just guessing stuff and not thinking any deeper than the narrative we've been fed for so many years that clearly doesn't work! The worst thing is, there will have been so many people watching that could have benefited from at least doing at least a 30 day carnivore elimination diet to see if it could help them. There will have been MS sufferers, diabetics, bi polar, schizophrenics to people that could just get better energy and sleep or any other improvement. If not themselves then friends and family members who need to know about carnivore. It's so frustrating hearing conversations like these! 😔

[@baranjan4172]

I'm actually disappointed in Attia. Had him in high regard a decade ago, but he devolved, as opposed to evolved. No time to study anymore, he's after the money now. Anyways, carnivore is full of nuts, so it's partly plant based, LOL. Eating only meat? That's nuts after all 🙂 I mean, to take statins like he does this day and age? That disqualifies him from sensible discussion right away.

[@Kyarrix]

Who takes statins? Peter does? How do you know? I don't doubt you but I had not been aware that he takes statins.

[@baranjan4172]

@@Kyarrix he talks about this in his videos. Prescribes them to his patients too. He's soooo afraid of ApoB, LOL.

[@Kyarrix]

@baranjan4172 statins have been shown to do so many bad things. We need cholesterol, I don't understand prescribing statins.

[@baranjan4172]

@@Kyarrix statins have their legitimate uses (in chronic leukemia for example), just not in a carpet bombing style and not with the aim of reducing cholesterol in lean mass hyper responders.

[@Kyarrix]

@baranjan4172 statins have an anti-inflammatory effect, that's not what they're prescribed for though.

[@sabine8419]

Who would listen to Peter Attia?

[@Once-a-weak-man]

This to me is an interesting study in people, Lee and Stephen are open minded, intelligent fair and well researched while Peter and his colleague are biased closed minded ignorant and arrogant. I know who I would enjoy listening to.

[@CoachStephen]

Thank you

[@dougreed2257]

Simply put, he's being paid to say this😮,and he doesn't even look as if he's convinced of his own words, well,both of them! P S, my own experience is,my ulcerative colitis had subsided,and inflammation much less than was,since cutin' out carbs and sugar,not anecdotal,FACT!!!!!😊

[@joananguyen3942]

Thank you Lee ! This commentary with you and Stephen is really cool ! I don’t know a lot about that guy Peter Attia. Just googled him, well he is pretty well known…But from the interview you just show us, I am glad I don’t know him, because he doesn’t seem very serious. Their discussion is a bit vague, without strong arguments. And indeed they are discussing a topic they haven’t even researched. That doesn’t make any sense. I would be ashamed to say things without even checking them. Thank you for sharing your commentary! It was informative and fun !

[@stevemc2626]

The problem with Attia is if people drop their carbs then they won’t need the statins he pushes so hard.

[@nickolasvlachos4013]

Glad you made this video. I had not realised Peter's stance had deteriorated to that level. I'm one of those people that, about two years ago, in my initial months of low carb eating, had become rather enthused with Peter's thinking, following recommendations from my elderly mother who was hearing from his lips exactly the longevity sweet-talk she wanted to hear. Eagerly bought and read his book, "Outlive". Sure, the book had a few good elements, but it started to become apparent that the longevity / health-span premise was being stretched a bit thin, well before the half way point. And there were some points where all common sense biology / physiology alarms were going off, after reading numerous suggestions to use medications (of known side effects potential) with a preventative intent. The book made it almost clear to me that a complex, and shifting, framework of physiology hacking (with medical implements) was Peter's game. Low carb / keto / carnivore is much simpler and renders much of this bio-hacking framework redundant. Very difficult to hack code that has been undergoing vicious debugging for over two million years. Yet, he and many others still think they know better...

[@edwcnj1]

Attia is an avid statin supporter, enough to understand where he comes from.

[@daryltownsley4562]

Great job lee. One of the refinements that does seem to work is fermentation. Pretty amazing refinement

[@Meathead-10810]

Thanks for this excellent discussion :)

[@CoachStephen]

Our pleasure

[@orpedsesama]

Carnivores easily eat 4000cal daily, how can that be labeled tired of eating?

[@anacenteno6625]

400??

[@debbiebeatty8449]

4000?

[@orpedsesama]

@@anacenteno6625 right, a typo😄

[@michael_mathieu_vibrant_health]

So glad you guys did this as I just watched his video a couple days ago and remembered why I don't like him… He is a smug narcissist!

[@RobertRobert-d2r]

my friend mentioned that I was on a carnivore diet and asked his doctor for her opinion. He is going to die, she said. I told my friend that she is right, I am going to die but so is everybody else. I then suggested he best find a new doctor if her only response is to state an irrelevant fact that he already knew

[@eutectoid1]

Every time I've ever watched Attia (and it's not a lot ) he's never impressed me. He's always come across as arrogant to me. Ergo I don't bother to watch anything he's got to say.

[@Treker-yv7nz]

If being a vegan or vegetarian is so great why try to replicate meat with all your UPF veg alternatives

[@annd8425]

Who is this doofus? I've never even heard of him before, but man alive, even BIOL 1010 contradicts a lot of what he says.

[@thestrongcarnivoress]

I just can't listen to the rubbish out of PA mouth and his host looks malnourished. Lee and Stephen you both so rational in your reaction to the video thanks for your clarity 🥩💪

[@Paul-x2h]

Hahahaha it's Coach Stephen with Lee

[@SimplyHuman186]

Cognitive dissonance is a thing for sure. Peter a tia is a prime example

[@SuitedPup]

23:05 seems to be a splinter / log situation happening here 😅. We could of course turn his quote directly on him. Ironic. As for his point… when someone feels better than they have in their entire life as a direct result of a change in diet... and when that change in diet has been recommended against by the authorities and experts for that person's entire life... it's gonna be difficult to convince them that some single marker with flawed epidemiological evidence should override their direct, lived experience of transformative health improvements. At some point, you have to ask yourself: are we treating numbers on a lab report, or are we treating human beings? Because when the numbers say 'danger' but every other aspect of health is screaming 'thriving,' maybe it's time to question our assumptions about those numbers.

[@kentcarnivore]

Spot on!

[@CoachStephen]

Yes

[@m33265]

This guys eyes are terrible. Your eyes says everything about your health.

[@Paul-x2h]

Yep that's the first thing I thought

[@Hinz2005]

I was hoping for this video. I am cautious with Attia because he takes Rapamycin. I learned all I could about that drug while my dog was battling chondroblastic osteosarcoma a few years back. Most of the research is in mouse models and also in dogs. It is a very exciting thing… BUT! His willingness to consume it simply for longevity concerns me. He has admitted that he cycles off when he starts to get mouth ulcers. Seriously? Even Brian Johnson stopped taking it (per my understanding). Anyways, I’m sure he has much to offer but I feel dubious about most of his claims based on the above. ⚠️

[@1timbarrett]

People who focus on longevity are almost always fascinated by the notion of their OWN longevity…! 😮

[@zamfirtoth6441]

His kind are a dime a dozen on utube, they fawn over worthless epidemiological studies and sell stuff.

[@danielcohen24]

sorry he might sound smart but he's just wrong on pretty much everything

[@sabine8419]

Rapmycin shrinks your muscle mass!

[@sabine8419]

Rapamycin messes with your immune system, and much more.

[@crashnburnband]

I wonder who is funding Peter Attia? Statin manufacturers maybe?

[@Liveforalongtime]

Loved 6:06 Coach Stephen’s impression of Catherine Tate “I’m not bothered!” Am I bothered, not bothered though! Is this the face of not bothered…”