2 past 2 curious-Ep6- Harappan Civilisation- Biswa Kalyan Rath & Kumar Varun - History Podcast

We are not experts. Not even close. Please feel free to correct us in the comments (with source).
Reuploaded as previous one had low sound

[@masesthetix9429]

Fun Fact : Most scholars nowadays use B.C.E = Before Common Era and C.E = Common Era instead of BC & AD to avoid the religious connotation.

[@MrSaviour]

Political correctness has gone too far

[@MrSaviour]

@@Vikrum_ It is if you think about it. BC is Before Christ - And because it mentions Christ people didn't want to offend non-christians by saying it, this was the reason why it was discontinued.

[@MrSaviour]

@@Vikrum_ universalising because of non-Christian push back. " Religious neutrality was the main rationale behind Jewish academics’ adoption of BCE/CE over a century ago, and continues to be its most widely cited justification. " www.druide.com/en/reports/bc-and-ad-bce-and-ce-whats-difference

[@neonblood4658]

@@Vikrum_ No, it's taking the credit away from the Christian priests who came up with the Gregorian Calendar. Also, "Anno Domini" sounds a lot cooler than "common era" :P

[@Ar-ok1rg]

@@MrSaviour of course. It should absolutely be BCE not BC. We don't need to say "god" when in science

[@namy7506]

KV is really such a soft spoken and very interesting person!

[@jatinmulgund9476]

incredibly funny as well

[@nehapisal3877]

buddies op! I'm 18 right now and when I used to hate history lessons in my secondary school but I absolutely love this podcast!! the storytelling skills of KV n Biswa are just epic. I wish our teachers taught us history this way and not by reading the plain text in textbooks

[@ramadhirsingh-vidhayak]

Good video but when is next one coming?

[@HAKUNAMATATA-cm8ii]

2022

[@MannanGoel]

Already declared. July mein aa raha hai. Saal matt puchna

[@mukundmalpani5847]

Nobody knows, nobody knowwssss 😂😂

[@Luckshae]

Good question but when is next one coming?

[@abhishek_kumar196]

@Vaibhav I know what you did there.🤣🤣🤣

[@simpsonparadox]

Super video! I applauded for A$5.00 👏👏

[@sankalp_1994]

Buddy this is soo good! I was working and listening. This is such a treat for history lovers. Loved this..! I still play Age of empire, Rise of nation type of games as I love history so much. Keep recording these session.

[@kushalbhalerao1463]

You play age of empire multiplayer?? Also the definitive edition for the aoe games has come out and age of empires 4 is coming out in october

[@ranvirdesai1843]

AoE2 player here. It feels good to see that others play it too.

[@rohandatta4745]

arre, so nice of you guys to remember that you used to do this.

[@sanketsamant1050]

Old Bricks in Harappa and Mohenjo-Daro cities are still being stolen and smuggled by locals to use in constructions in nearby villages.

[@gauravsindhu9890]

Damn they made bricks that lasts for years .

[@asificare]

Why is that soooooo funny💀

[@gayatriganesh4105]

South India had trade relations with Rome, through Arikamedu (Pondicherry) which currently holds remnants of a port area and trade related structures (warehouse + mission complex) Records and maps available suggest that that under these ruins, are buried artefacts; It is about an hour away from White Town area.

[@the_dreams_weaver]

which state or city ?

[@pratikp268]

@@the_dreams_weaver They literally said Pondicherry

[@hadhamalnam]

Also there are surviving documents called the Muziris Papyrus which show contracts of merchants from Roman Egypt who traded in the port of Muziris (near Kodungallur, Kerala) and several Indian ports are described in the Periplus of the Erythrean Sea, a Roman manual for merchants trading in the Red Sea and Indian Ocean. Even the Indus Valley Civilization traded with Mesopotamian states. Its crazy that people were traveling and exchanging with others 1000s of miles away well over 2000 years ago.

[@abhishekmishra9250]

Oh. After such a long wait! So good to see all of this. Keep up the good work Biswa and KV 👏🏻

[@syedmohammadayaan4091]

Fun Fact : Some of the artefacts of the Harappan Civilisation such as their tokens were also found in some areas of the mesopotamian civilisation and thus it is concluded that either there were some trade relations between these two civilisations or the Harappan (Or the indus valley civilisation) was aan extension of the Mesopotamian civilisation.😱🤐

[@anchalgupta4860]

I legit thought they weren’t gonna make more of these anymore, so happy to see it back

[@isawjet]

It is a curious thing that we assume that society is ever improving. This is a great reminder that any progress (technological or cultural) survives till we hold on to it.

[@siddharthbanerjee2816]

Finally .. Thanks Biswa and Amplifier Varun!!! Love you guys... Naya episode Jazurat...

[@chinmayomp]

Super video! I applauded for ₹200.00 👏👏👏

[@juidharwadkar7505]

Great to see this podcast back on KZbin. There were some audio issues, specially with Biswa's mike. Hope those will be fixed by the next podcast. Good work!

[@pandirisrujana8668]

Great Biswa .you are actually doing something which is really useful for younger folks. You are educating them in the guise of entertainment and Iam amazed beyond words.you are a great human with a very insightful social responsibility .I wish that you reach heights in your endeavours.

[@adityagoyal7972]

The reason we do not remember this civilization could also be because they didn't build any big monuments and stuff. They were just chill people who liked to enjoy their life.

[@TanmaySahay94]

Loved the episode! Just some feedback on the audio aspect: there seemed to be a high disparity (both in volume and clarity) between yours and KV's audio input. I constantly had to increase and decrease the volume while you and KV switched roles while speaking. I don't mind doing so, but it'd be great if this disparity was nullified. I'm sure other viewers would appreciate it if they came across a similar issue. Again, thanks for the podcasts and hope to see more of these :)

[@sneha1797]

Thanks

[@DeepakBhasin7]

At 26.42 Biswas question. There were Harappan seals that were found in other civilizations as a mark of trading between these civilizations.

[@indranilmishra]

Mesopotamian civilization was very much connected to Indus valley civilization

[@indranilmishra]

infact they were connected to egypt, oman, Turkmenia ,Bahrin and that region specifically

[@piyush882]

12 ncert I see

[@ekta8704]

I love this podcast. You guys just make things more interesting ,still without any drama or bias.. I love it please waiting for next

[@aksakhanak]

After a long time thank God this podcast is back

[@niravmamniya6897]

Finally!! Thankyou Biswa and KV

[@VarunKumar-ro4ll]

thank you for resuming this podcast. please keep this a regular feature.

[@gagaannnnn]

Thank you for coming back..... Please be regular

[@saurabhg6331]

I enjoy listening to this duo trying to unfold different aspects of evolution and history. Biswa & KV, Please keep doing more episodes on wide range of topics frequently. Thankyou.

[@ujjwalkumar1006]

Biswa is that one kid in exams who says that he has not studied anything still shows knowledge everytime, KV is the kid who will revise and clear all your doubts 2 mins before exam

[@masesthetix9429]

Thank you so much for continuing this podcast !! I really enjoy these

[@tarunnavlani]

Abhijit Chavdas videos are killing it about our Indian History

[@tamonashroy8513]

Thank you for this. Waiting for soooo long

[@shekhark4861]

Would love to see more of such great and pure content.. great work both of u all.. Biswas being my all time favourite artist..

[@HetuNandu]

So glad you guys decided to revive this series 😍

[@skyward7903]

I really hope you continue doing this because I love it so much!

[@60x-byugsheladia59]

Noooo wayy! Soooo happy to see the podcast return

[@sumit54584]

Great video this was.......some knowledge is kind of outdated, no issues. There many ways to update the knowledge. There are many Indian researchers are working on Ancient Indian history etc. These researchers also have thier own podcasts, eg. Abhijit Chavda, Sathology, Sangam talks etc. There are many more. It a rich ocean of knowledge considering our history. Which fills my heart with pride. Great work guys....please continue doing these kind of talks

[@ishanvyas1990]

I love how both of them keep calling each other "buddy"! Cute!!

[@pranjal1231]

Oh my god!! have been waiting on a new episode for soo long. Much love guys!!

[@Banzybanz]

~ 6:00 If we don't write stuff down it is easy to lose track of history. How many of us even know the names of all of our own great-great-grandparents? This is just stuff from 100-150 years ago. Losing knowledge from 3000+ years ago is understandable, especially when the original civilisation dies out and you are only an indirect descendent of that older civilisation. Even most knowledge of ancient Greece (and the fact that Greece was the cradle of Western civilisation) was only discovered by historians in the last century or so.

[@AnkurJyotiBasumatary]

Thank you. Would love to hear a podcast on History based Conspiracy Theories in general.

[@souravmohanty9083]

Was waiting for this to come ❤️❤️

[@atharvad5060]

Was listening this on Spotify and want to give KV a advice:- if he wants to visit Lothal civilization, I recommend going to dholavira too as it quiet new very well preserved than lothal and you get an great perspective about how the drainage system was there and also they had dam built in dholavira at that era.. so recommend going there as well (you can go with friends too as it is near to runn of kutuch).

[@pinkijha4467]

Very informative and interesting podcasts. Will be waiting for next episodes.

[@akshayjadhav-lc6pt]

Finally the episode is out..thank you

[@kartikmessner2868]

For biswa's question regarding contact with other civilizations :The mesopotamians knew about the harappans very well.excavations in Iraq have yielded harappan seals.the harappans in lothal also sailed( in reasonably sized boats) to Oman and Persian coasts via the Arabian sea near gujarat.

[@tap4610]

Get better mics, listening on earphones is getting tough. So many peaks! Rip earphone users Xo

[@shubhamsemwalvns]

Yeah...Biswa's sound is so low, and Buddy is too loud.

[@shezad-dz8yk]

Exactly... Biswa wasnt audible clearly

[@mukundmalpani5847]

Yeah 😶

[@akhileshsuresh4933]

@@shubhamsemwalvns set krle us hisaabse, mereko pta nhi lgra

[@skyward7903]

@@shubhamsemwalvns "Buddy is too loud" LOL

[@GREENSTEELIITian]

I belong to the very village of rakhigarhi, do come boost our tourism in haryana.

[@aashaysawant6997]

Normal people: Set up a premiere to tease Biswa: Upload and then make private and then upload again

[@naaziawahab1123]

Wish I had this podcast when my teacher was teaching me about Indus valley

[@nireekshithejardar3246]

Finally! Must awaited!!

[@pranaytarafdar4186]

FINALLY!!!!!!! It took ages for you to come back!

[@mayankdhawan]

I don't if you'll read my comment but this podcast was amazing.... Really enjoyed it, watched it through the week in parts...

[@bhushanwaghmare3114]

Finally the new episode is here, I was going to ask KV in comment on latest kvizzing video for details on new episode! You guys rock!!!

[@to_be_fair_doh]

Bhai thanks for bringing this back..

[@rugvedtargaonkar1679]

In the Later excavations in Pompeii (ITALY) ,Many utensils ,Toys and many other things From India(Basically from Harrappa ) was been discovered...This showed the close relation India had back then with other countries(civilizations) and how developed it was..

[@centonianXD]

One thing for sure that Indus Valley Civilization was open to everyone for trade. Pompeii itself has huge history, I've always been fascinated.

[@ShubhamSharma-be3fs]

Finally you guys did it. Plzz do this regularly plzzplzzplzzplz🙏

[@gyanhubbyabeezer1737]

What a great podcast loved every episode and the best thing is u always r so modest thet we are just curious and not experts and actually that's the best thing about this podcast that people like me with zero knowledge can also find it interesting please be regular and just try to make audio quality better

[@ashutoshgupta7485]

Best duo for informative stuffs... thanks for doing this. 🤍

[@indranilmishra]

One important fact I'd like to add is , there was no trace of horses found since a long time.. but some years ago or a decade ago horse bones were found in near SURKOTADA

[@adityakhalatkar4200]

Yeah I saw this documentary about Sinnauli. It says we had horses but with different breed the modern horses might indeed have come from Arab but we had a different specie with different number of rib cage bone and few other differences. And those were great weight carrier and not for riding so they were generally used in pairs for chariot. So great. And this might even debunk Aryan migration theory

[@vaibhavyadav9912]

@@adityakhalatkar4200 it's already debunked. Removed by UGC from history.

[@sohanmahapatra3067]

@@adityakhalatkar4200 yes...i think the horses were from the Arab traders...

[@_sayan_roy_]

@@vaibhavyadav9912 Are you talking about AIT or AMT ? Because those 2 are different. Which is removed by UGC ? AIT is the debunked one but AMT is still lurking around (I'm not arguing for either though).

[@vaibhavyadav9912]

@@_sayan_roy_ I was referring to AIT. Yeah now it's the migration that's being propounded, but that too will not stand for long. All genealogical and archaeological evidences are against it.

[@AdiVenturousTrails]

This podcast deserves a Spotify exclusive ❤️

[@sohampablo]

Brilliant, KV and Biswa. Love this podcast series

[@harshits6960]

Did we really forget all these town planning or were forced to by invaders and colonizers? Ancient cities like Hampi are beautifully planned and these places came up in what like 15-16th century. These places had well planned drainage systems, markets and huge areas to walk. Comparing this with new cities that propped up near this region, after Hampi was destroyed and left abandoned, by the Nawabs of Hyderabad basically colonizers ruling over native people. These new settlements under the Nawab rule had no town planning, no sanitation nothing...I remember my Aunt said that the City of Hospet use to stink a lot due to these improper sanitation which was only fixed recently!

[@harshdadwal3088]

Really love your podcast. Please keep doing it.

[@medhapoori]

Prof. B. B. Lal's work on this is extensive and interesting

[@manishkansal8260]

Saying that its discontinuous is half-right half wrong statement. yes, it may be considered one in terms of recorded history but it is larger theme of Human civilization. We made a breakthrough as we learn to record and transfer our learnings cumulatively to next generations. Why it doesn't exist in recorded history: maybe just not deciphered yet, invasions resulting in end of culture, etc. Culturally, other than written scripts, there are multiple continuities as in Tribhanga posture figurines, worship of male and female genitalia, same symbols have been observed in South India, lost wax technique, worship of mother goddess etc. FYI: I am a student of anthropology. Love you both. Try to use term 'Researcher' and not 'scientist'. This is a pseudo science and people in this field consider science to be inherently biased.

[@sidharthpal1963]

I've been waiting for it since ages now!❤️ Finally

[@shubhamsemwalvns]

IVC had traced in Mesopotamia. Because Mesopotamian seals were found in IVC (Lothal) and IVC seals were found in the Mesopotamian civilization. The script they used was Boustrophedon. (Left to right, then right to left.) They, then, travelled towards the East and settled in the Ganga Plains, where later the Vedic civilization flourished.

[@shum7n]

Amazing episode 😎 really enjoyed it. Can't believe it that a guy wearing a SPIDERMAN t-shirt discussed this so humbly and more passionately than the best schools in this country. But please can it be reuploaded with better sound clarity? 😭

[@jayeshd9262]

2past2curious would be way better if it would be live so that chat also adds facts that hosts dont

[@sudeepmanjrekar4487]

Bahut dino baad episode aya ...😀 too glad

[@shreyachakraborti6391]

The best podcast in this lockdown. Please do more videos

[@tomcruise8018]

Please continue with this series really good stuff

[@akshaysrivastava9508]

This is one of the best series I came across. Unfortunate to see that their youtube views are decreasing with every part. Nobody wants to watch intellectual content lol.

[@chiragkariya267]

Thanks for putting up this long awaited episode of interesting podcast! Loved the talk as always Biswa & KV ❤️😊

[@104unity]

This was eagerly awaited!! My day is sorted ❤️

[@AnaghaMeeraManoharan]

Pls bring this podcast back :(

[@Captainmin2]

Topic of discussion great Both of you great Please upgrade the audio guys

[@ujjwalagarwal860]

Varun: abc xyz Biswa: Crazy!! 😂😂😂

[@sanskarmalu5765]

Biswa sir can you please invite abhijit chavda for a podcast on any of the history topic.... That guy is a goldmine of knowledge

[@rakibulmahmud3253]

Mazaa aah gaya.. bahut dino badh🥲

[@dhruvshrimali7101]

Man this should be a live session so that it can be so interactive

[@kaustubhchakrabarti2400]

Biggest fan of both of you. Love you both

[@ankitrath6357]

In the ancient Egyptian texts.. Indus valley civilization is mentioned as Meluha.. and Indus valley civilization had a dockyard so trading with foreign civilization was obviously there.

[@vineetjeswani]

1 year, 6 episodes. You are really testing our patience 😁

[@nidhilohat46]

Regarding Biswa's comment about the link being broken amongst the generations, it was probably due to mass migration caused by the change in the course of erstwhile Saraswati, now the dried up river beds of Ghagra-Hakkar. Other climatic changes also contributed to this mass migration. Source - "The Lost River" by Michel Danino

[@akshaymohan16]

What a beautiful session. Loved it. ❤️❤️

[@AMRITANSHUSINHA-ew3fh]

Bhai naya episode le aao please Love this podcast!

[@PrabhavBhasin]

Better Than My History Teacher

[@preranays]

Love this series!

[@AJJYTHEGREAT]

Rig veda describes the river sarasvati in full flow and vedas also describe a government chosen by the people which almost proves that vedic period and indus valley (sarasvati civilization) coexisted or were the same. Only point which confuses me is the lack of similarity between sanskrit and Harappan script

[@3322siddhartha]

Avijit Chavda said in some podcast that at the same time, there were other civilizations at other river banks like the Ganga.

[@ShreyA-ms3pe]

damn this is something new

[@amrit44b]

Great episode guys. Cou you guys try to improve the sound in the next one please?

[@gaurishukla3574]

IVC had links to Mesopotamian. Their seals have been found in places such as Oman - probably established trade links existed. Also, the Mesopotamian (Sumerian) scribes in the Middle Bronze Age refer frequently to a place they call Meluhha. Meluhha was a prominent trading partner of the Sumerians and they imported timber and ebony in high volumes. This Meluhha was most probably IVC. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indus%E2%80%93Mesopotamia_relations

[@modeMargaret]

They used to take us for school picnics to Lothal. I did not understand the significance then. I don't remember much. I would like to revisit though.

[@neelthakker7070]

yo yoo yo, thank god they didnt left this incomplete

[@vipulvashisht137]

IVC seals can be found in Mesopotamia and Oman. Mesopotamia had trade relations with people called Meluhha which is mostly associated with the Indus Valley Civilization

[@zainazhar8887]

Loved every bit of ths conversation.

[@MrSantino3]

Awesome content , would it not be better if both of you record this from a better camera , and then edit in accordance with the zoom conversation. The quality will be so much better . Zoom recordings are good but not great.

[@mubasshirkhan7508]

Bhai biswa ki volume bahot kam hai, varun bhai ki loud hai so biswa ko Sunne k liye volume up karo to bahot high ho jaati hai please adjust in next podcast. Love you guys big fan

[@Rinzorinz]

Super informative video series 👍🙌