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2 STROKE V8. What is next for this project?

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Hartwick Performance

Hartwick Performance

Күн бұрын

Thank you to everyone who has stuck around for this 2 stroke project. This is NOT a wrap on the project yet, but just like you I am human and with that comes trial and error. This project has been a lot of fun and I have enjoyed it, however I am out of space and swamped in projects in my shop!! I will be taking time through the holidays to clean up the shop, get some projects done, and get back to making good content for you guys lol. I am a one man show and without the positive support and help from my subs I wouldn't be where I am now. Happy Holidays!

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@kalybnielsen4183
@kalybnielsen4183 9 ай бұрын
There is a guy, built a Rudezon V8 and stuck it in a Volvo, amazing car, its along the same line as this build. Shelfing it is a good idea, work on other stuff, just write down ideas and thoughts in a notebook, ideas randomly appear, do a little research while you're not stressed out over it
@andrewglasson1213
@andrewglasson1213 9 ай бұрын
Good luck I struggle to get going myself
@ItsDaJax
@ItsDaJax 9 ай бұрын
Yeah, it was an Evenrude v8 that didn't need to be upside down, I think. I think it was wasted as a drag car, though.
@der_pinguin44
@der_pinguin44 8 ай бұрын
The project is known as Rudezon, which is a portmanteau of Evinrude and Amazon, the latter being the model name of the Volvo.
@RobertMattson-fr2mo
@RobertMattson-fr2mo 7 ай бұрын
I do have a fun project I am working on my self I have a 97 stepside f150 I pulled a 4.6 out of and am replacing it with a 5.4l dohc that I took out of a 02 navigator intech engine the thing is a monster I love the way it looks I've watch some videos on it and not everything told about the installation was accurate as I thought they'd be I had to lift the body 2" to make it work and 8" to install a few head bolts and valve cover I port and polished the heads and am welding a 3" dual exhaust on the truck at this time I am using the stock trans eventually need to up grade the input and output shafts to harden shafts or remove stronger ones out of another donor trans. Due to the torque that will be produced will be around nearly 800+ft.lbs. of torque. I see most all videos talking about change the torque converter or rework the computer to lower the torque not one man spoke on keeping the torque. Why would anyone want to get rid of the torque when you want all the torque you can get it's a truck man. Me I'm keeping all the torque I can get and will make the necessary changes to keep all that torque I figure with all the mods I made the engine should be around 360hp and 400ft lbs torque to get all the free toque from the trans I'll keep and have a beast of a truck eventually I'll get the axles and suspension out of a f250 or f350 and have one heck of a mean machine that not only I can enjoy and love but other people who loves trucks the project has been nothing but costume everything and has taken some time to do but in the end I'll be extremely satisfied with my project and I'm sure get alot of compliments and possibly some fellas wanting me to rework their trucks. I'm sure that the end results is gonna be the 305's I have on it in 4 wheel drive cruising at 45-55mph I can hit the throttle and smoke the tires like nothing even pulling a load take off but then some sports cars. I'm not done yet I even plan to install 2 turbos on it in which means pulling the engine again and reworking that the crank in it is steel and capable of handling 3000hp but the pistons and rods are cast will need upgrades to buy forged rods in Pistons will cost well over 2grand and I don't have that kind of cash laying around, however, I believe only 1 year Ford put forged everything in the 5.4l engines in the trucks 99 I found one for 200 bucks and will gladly purchase it believe it or not I only gave 100 for the dohc running 😅. I plan to finish it and fire it up for the first time today or tomorrow and I'm hoping to get 20mpg hwy hoping but we'll see depending on where the rpm's are running at at in over drive I will make the necessary changes in the gearing to get that and more due to the power it'll produce I can hardly wait to get that far, however, I'll be patient at this time.
@ItsDaJax
@ItsDaJax 7 ай бұрын
@@RobertMattson-fr2mo First off... paragraphs, my guy. Secondly, that sounds like a decent mild build, I hope you took care of the spark plug issues, if it was a gen that had that problem. Unless those planned turbos are small, shouldn't you be going for a supercharger, if you're trying to get all the torque? All mod motors have the same crank, which is a powder sintered crank, I believe. They all have the same cams* and hypereutectic pistons, and heads**. The only possible exception would be the 5.8s, in the GT500; it may, may, have a steel forged crank, it's an overbored 5.4, and probably still uses the same supercharger the Lightnings and Harleys use. The one in the GT is probably the same but with a different supercharger. Most people don't want them, mod motors cost a lot to build, just for little gains. All that for roughly a 30hp gain. The 4v 5.4 has a hair over 300hp. Probably as far as regular engines goes; it might be inbetween the 3v 4.6 with 305hp and the cyclone v6 with 312hp. * All engines share the same respective cams to their design **same as above, except the 4v 4.6 which unlike the 2v 4.6, and 5.4, and 4v 5.4, possibly even 3v, have three different heads.
@vancemacd6315
@vancemacd6315 9 ай бұрын
Id love to see 8, 2 stroke dirt bike carbs. On each hole.
@benfreeman4707
@benfreeman4707 9 ай бұрын
snowmobile carbs or throttle bodies with injectors come in bigger sizes than dirt bike carbs. I looked into it thinking they would be a cheap source for feeding a small block Ford or Chevy they need to be very large most common cheap large size mikunis are 40-42mm which is enough to feed 600hp. Ive read these V8 two strokes were easily making 6-800hp reliably in endurance offshore racing applications.
@astrawally8448
@astrawally8448 9 ай бұрын
@@benfreeman4707you can't just add bigger carbs to a 2 stroke - the inlet pulsing/oscillation can cause massive issues with fuel metering (the same air can past through the nozzle 3 times). Mikuni, Keihin or Dellorto carbs are great on a two-stroke but they don't have accel pumps so you'll likely have nasty flat spots and backfiring in your small block 4 stroke. To make big horsepower in these OMC engines you need 8 exhaust pipes with specifically tuned expansion chambers, a lot of porting work and only then bigger carbs.
@benfreeman4707
@benfreeman4707 9 ай бұрын
​@@astrawally8448I wouldn't use two stroke sled carbs on a four stroke V8 engine, I would use sled throttle bodies. They're large enough to not be a restriction vs. say cbr 1000 throttle bodies, way to small.. Itb's are not very practical anyway, have yet to see a sanitary air cleaner setup besides screens and what's the point of itb's if you can't see them under an air box? 😆 a custom throttle linkage with eight cables, plumbing the fuel system, etc. Back on the 2 stroke V8- I think used snowmobile pipes and carbs would be the cheapest way to get 8!! Pipes and wow, that's crazy to even think about isn't it? 8 pipes lol.. so it's 3.6 liters or 450cc per cylinder if you could get it to flow close to a 900cc sled that's 70-80hp per cylinder x 8 560-640hp! Assuming there's some design constraints with the outboard 450-500 is probably a more realistic goal and you are correct about carb sizing can't just go from say a 32mm to a 36mm without needing the extra flow from larger bore, larger reeds opening up intake ports, increase compression, exhaust etc. Drag race engines successfully use much larger custom carbs though like 52mm. Back on topic though. He's going to have enough issues just getting it installed into something and I would ditch the edelbrock carb and intake run carbs sized slightly larger than what came from the factory.
@claytonfontenot5939
@claytonfontenot5939 5 ай бұрын
Bro I’m pumped to see a marine motor move a car lol. Seen the opposite many times but this will be sick👍🏼
@someoldwhiteguy6961
@someoldwhiteguy6961 9 ай бұрын
Old man here Have you ever herd of UD a two stroke diesel In 1955, the iconic two-stroke UD engine was born. At that time the race for horsepower had begun, and in Japan as well as overseas, trucks were traveling farther. Engines capable of 150-200 horsepower were in huge demand. The Uniflow scavenging Diesel engine-the origin of the UD name-was the first engine produced by a Japanese company to reach this level. The industry-first 150 horsepower version was followed by the UD6 engine, which further delivered 230 horsepower at a weight 40% lower than conventional models, making it one of the world’s lightest per horsepower engines. For truck owners, this meant lower vehicle weight and in turn less fuel used for a given distance just saying
@jlo13800
@jlo13800 19 күн бұрын
Yes Nissan UD 2 strokes were sick! If i get one im running amsoil interceptor in it. i did BRP XD-100 Etec in my 8v92 with excellent results.
@capanema-0
@capanema-0 9 ай бұрын
take your time man! I really love this. I think weird engine swaps are one of my favorite things ever! I found your channel when i was searching for videos of that swedish 2 stroke v8 volvo build
@jasonnoteboom4489
@jasonnoteboom4489 9 ай бұрын
Dual carbs, from the sides (like some kinda upside-down crossram. Or, it’ll look weird, but, flip the motor over like the fella in Sweden or wherever. Looking forward to seeing how this progresses.
@johnsilva7140
@johnsilva7140 9 ай бұрын
Don't ever give up on your dreams or your hobbies they are your therapy and what you love!!!!
@RobertMattson-fr2mo
@RobertMattson-fr2mo 8 ай бұрын
Never sell or get rid of it. I can remember my dad telling me, you can do anything you put your mind to never let anyone tell you you can't do anything, if you're going to do something do it right or don't do it at all and if you start something finish it this has got me to do so many things that people never believed could be done I think that your projects are really neat with a little bit of hard work and some extra thinking you'll be very successful at achieving your goal.
@glendurrell
@glendurrell 9 ай бұрын
Do not listen to the haters. I love your candid delivery and attitude. Its refreshing to see a real person on YT. Keep up the good work, and good luck with your family. It is the job that is actually important.
@luckywave3339
@luckywave3339 9 ай бұрын
you will figure it out eventually im confident just put it on the backburner I know that's how I find good solutions to difficult problems
@stevenbusk539
@stevenbusk539 9 ай бұрын
He'll get it to run one day in the future when he has a clear workshop, and the time and maybe a little more budget too. I think the trigger wheel and a wasted spark set up with a relatively cheap stand alone ecu like megasquirt is definitely the best way to get it to run in a horizontal configuration. It would also look great in a Mustang like the one in the shop.👍 But a rat rod is much more practical and would give him more space for exhaust system routing. Maybe someone knowledgeable might give him some specs for an expansion chamber per cylinder one day. It would sure look good with 8 expansion chambers like stacks sticking up vertically on top of the engine, especially in a rat rod.
@pauranen
@pauranen 9 ай бұрын
2 sets of 4 cylinder bike carbs would be crispy, short intake runner is what 2-smoke likes. Simple intake, just 90 degree pipes to side
@EddyB78
@EddyB78 9 ай бұрын
Thats what i wash thinking
@natelorimer8567
@natelorimer8567 8 ай бұрын
If you do dual on the sides. Don't do a collector. Do a plenum. Collectors are for exhaust going out of the pipe . Plenum is for intake, going into the pipe. Long runners to a plenum with a 4 barrel on top.
@jsboo72
@jsboo72 9 ай бұрын
I believe if you have the black/yellow wires grounded you'll have no spark (kill switch). If you try it with them disconnected and it fires you'll have to ground that wire to turn it off then.
@ninefinger2511
@ninefinger2511 5 ай бұрын
You may scrap the boat ignition system and go to a stand alone ignition system. But this project will be awsome if it gets done.
@elvismorales7741
@elvismorales7741 2 ай бұрын
Two stroke V8 is such an awsome idea.❤ Please convert a Ford 460 to nitro methane 2 stroke.😊
@2coolwheels139
@2coolwheels139 9 ай бұрын
You'll never know unless you try. Looking forward to when you circle back to this project.
@santiagovaldez5176
@santiagovaldez5176 6 ай бұрын
Amazing bro, looking forward to new vids about this. Important: 2 stroke can't easily use turbos, best you can do is SC or NA, the most important thing is to use expansion chamber exhausts
@zcomputerwiz
@zcomputerwiz 7 ай бұрын
Sometimes just ordering parts while you catch up on the rest of life is the best course of action, good pick.
@Marc_Wolfe
@Marc_Wolfe 6 ай бұрын
Floatless carbs like the Mikuni Super BN. Can get those in a 38mm or 44mm. Their orientation doesn't matter. Those tend to be used on jet skis and snowmobiles.
@vornice7604
@vornice7604 9 ай бұрын
the back cylinders starving is mostly a myth, they tried to say that with the tunnel rams and air scoops too, it should be turbulent enough to keep the fuel in suspension as that is the bigger issue than air distribution but i think it should work, should be able to tell by plug color in a very short amount of running anyway. also there are ways of dimpling the bottom of plenums like that to re introduce puddled fuel into the air if it becomes an issue. i think the turbulence of an intake pulse every 2 strokes will keep it working
@rickybailey7123
@rickybailey7123 9 ай бұрын
Turn the motor upside down valve covers down put carb in middle 2 strokes don't care what way its mounted it runs fine
@RobertMattson-fr2mo
@RobertMattson-fr2mo 8 ай бұрын
The EFI of a 97 650RXL Polaris I know I used to take off and put on the triumphs guys love them things I almost bet you love that setup on that engine it may require some rejetting and tuning no matter how it's set up upside down sideways on top I'll bet it run like a champ I just remembered this for years ago from when I had a RXL builds up
@ericeidsness2210
@ericeidsness2210 9 ай бұрын
Bro if we were neighbors I would be over there helping you get that thing going .. I have problems with distractions too... But that makes us better people because we look at things from all different angles instead of just one way... Bro it's something...you'll get it
@caseyc8603
@caseyc8603 9 ай бұрын
Good luck sir! I hope we see more updates in the future, I have been watching the updates excited to see it work but will still be looking forward to them
@klausbrinck2137
@klausbrinck2137 8 ай бұрын
A 2stroke is constituted by 2 things: The form, size and position of the different ports (intake, exhaust, boost) at the cylinder-walls, and the form, size and position of the resonance-chambers along the exhaust-pipes (8 in this case, cannot be united in groups of 2, 4 or 8). Please dont forget the resonance-chambers, or it won´t work at all...! The resonance-chamber gives better efficiency and double the power of a 4stroke at a distinct and pretty narrow RPM-band, but if you make the pipes (between exhaust-port and res.chamber) out of 2 tubes, sliding in each other, you get variable-length-exhausts, broadening the peak-power-RPM-band to all different and relevant RPMs, from the relevant 500-peak-power-RPM-band to 2-3000 RPMs !!! From what I´ve noticed, for 50cc, 12cm of lengthening lowers the peak-power-RPM at about 1000rpm. This should be valid for any cylinder-size, since the speed of sound isn´t affected by the cylinder´s size.
@roachfabgarage
@roachfabgarage 8 ай бұрын
The Mercury M2 Sport Jet 240 is a Fuel injected 240 HP jet boat engine. Wonder if you could take some ideas and Parts (injectors, and Intake design) from the M2 Engine and power it with a Holley terminator/Dominator EFI controller and an externally mounted crank trigger. That's probably more effort and money than the project is worth, but its a pretty cool project.
@RobertMattson-fr2mo
@RobertMattson-fr2mo 7 ай бұрын
One thing I can say is hard work and determination will always (even at times if we lose in which I don't see that ever happening we still win) pay off after blood sweat and tears at the end what we'll have is a job well done and those who never believed or made mockery of us will eat their words and have no choice only to show a certain level of respect and learn from our hard work and determination! And in the end we would have achieved our goal and earned our respect and our blood sweat and tears are all worth while... Great job at all you do and thanks for all the entertainment and education that you provided for those who may need help just looking to find interest in a new hobby.😅
@99milesaway41
@99milesaway41 9 ай бұрын
No, screw that man, never let anyone tell you what to do with your time. Especially some dumb sack in your comments section, this is YOUR channel, this is YOUR life, you do what YOU want to do, and what YOU need to do. We're just along for the ride. Do what's best for you, man, the real ones of us will appreciate you being real, the rest can kick rocks.
@nigeltrigger4499
@nigeltrigger4499 9 ай бұрын
Just because something doesn't work, doesn't mean that you have failed! It means that you can rule out that option as one the doesn't work! (Just Like Edison). It would be great to get this project working and you don't need to do it the first time!
@ChainsawFPV
@ChainsawFPV 9 ай бұрын
We all have to have that one "life time" project. Make the engine yours. Lol It is a really cool idea.
@SmokiiSpitz
@SmokiiSpitz 5 ай бұрын
If you figured out the issue of throttle bodies you could use a speeduino DIY ECU to control injectors with a custom map. Sounds harder then it is its very possible and cost effective.
@jx10r13
@jx10r13 9 ай бұрын
for the intake design, do a like a 140-180 elbow and make a design for the main intake feed a similar shape to how a aftermarket intake manifold is for a supra. Initial feed is large and tapers down to the rear cylinder, the shape is meant to force air to the rear cylinders first so they don't starve. Also, if you wanted to go efi, it can be done on the cheap side very easily!!! I've done it myself a few times already , you can get a good used standalone ecu that can run a 2 stroke or 4 stroke engine for a very good deal if you know where to look and what to look for. If you need help with that, I'd be happy to help
@williamquinones2870
@williamquinones2870 9 ай бұрын
Chin up my friend it'll just be at a different point in time wish you the best thru these necessary adjustments and don't forget alot of us will be looking out for your next video
@LifewithPatrick-dq1rd
@LifewithPatrick-dq1rd 9 ай бұрын
Yeah that Volvo build was sick
@2000freefuel
@2000freefuel 9 ай бұрын
Consider trying a set of motorcycle carbs, they are designed as side draft carbs.
@steveblottenberger1097
@steveblottenberger1097 9 ай бұрын
I give you a lot of credit for trying to do something different and make it work keep up the good work Steve from deale Maryland
@fighttheswine
@fighttheswine 9 ай бұрын
That idea with the 4 barrel carbs will work!
@chehystpewpur4754
@chehystpewpur4754 9 ай бұрын
you want easy? do 2 tubes one for each bank. have the air come in from the middle. have each end squared off so flow will balance in the whole thing. youll end up with -0- shape intake and run a small carb on each side. no matter what your gonna have some fuel pooling. when intake is on bottom. call it cheap insurance when your letting off the throttle. youll have some oil to suck up. on my 2 stroke engines i drill out the oil passages slightly even though everyone says dont. what i have is oil and a tiny bit of fuel in my crank case at any given time instead of vapor. im fine with that.
@itseithergonnaworkoritaint7852
@itseithergonnaworkoritaint7852 9 ай бұрын
Do the heads really need to be at the top? Seems like it would be way easier if you flipped it over?
@darenwinckler7027
@darenwinckler7027 9 ай бұрын
You do you & what you want to do. I absolutely love weird out of the ordinary builds. Especially one that was hand fabbed in your own garage/shop. Not off the summit shelf. But built with your idea's & hands. So keep building it how you want man 💪🏻
@bennyboyy7
@bennyboyy7 8 ай бұрын
It's very satisfying to engineer things yourself. I have a dodge 5.9 magnum engine and there's not a lot for aftermarket support. It came with a 2 barrel throttle body and that's all the aftermarket supports for that. Shorty exhaust headers are everywhere but only 1 guy in magnum groups has been known to sell them right now.
@darenwinckler7027
@darenwinckler7027 8 ай бұрын
@@bennyboyy7 yeah there isn't much you can do for those. There is some intake porting you can do on the bottom of the intake. That'll help the air transition into the runner's. But also I think Richard Holdener did a video on the magnum motor. If you haven't checked it out. Might be worth a watch.
@stanallport6746
@stanallport6746 9 ай бұрын
turbo s are possible but generally not used on 2 strokes... but with very mild boost, you could even out the distribution and eliminate puddling and strvation with a draw thru system... carbs on a plenum before the turbo and drawing it thr....like 5 psi max, i would say.
@munrocoutu6854
@munrocoutu6854 22 күн бұрын
I saw one picture of that sand rail/hill climbing rig on a forum ages ago, the solution they went with was to keep it as a vertical shaft somehow? I don’t understand how they made it work but it was pretty pimp
@darrellbanks4998
@darrellbanks4998 9 ай бұрын
Don't do what everybody else wants to do. Do what you want to do. I like doing what nobody else does. I like being different?
@fighttheswine
@fighttheswine 9 ай бұрын
That would be the only part of it that I personally would stick money into at this point.
@DeeBo68
@DeeBo68 9 ай бұрын
Have you thought about rotating the engine 180° so it's "upside down".? The intake would be on top then.
@jonathancorbett5917
@jonathancorbett5917 9 ай бұрын
We will be here, post some time lapses to keep your editing time low and your watch hours up. You have already been a huge inspiration to try to get on my projects
@danielsplayhouse3804
@danielsplayhouse3804 9 ай бұрын
Seeing the parts on hand I would use the aluminum butterfly and add a fuel injector bung too the butterfly and use a fuel tech for the computer. From what I've seen in the wire diagram could use the trigger for the outboard and use a mega squirt to fire the injectors on the carb plate...
@nathanhansford76
@nathanhansford76 9 ай бұрын
Rear cylinders won’t starve, just think about it a bit, 1) only one cylinder is on the intake stroke at anyone time. 2) each cylinder sucks the fuel air mixture in as it goes. (Manifold is always in a vacuum) you can confirm this with the firing order.
@Surestick88
@Surestick88 9 ай бұрын
The issue is likely not one of getting air to all cylinders, it's getting fuel and oil to all of them equally as the liquid tends to settle out. That's why carbed intake manifolds on inline engines usually have heat applied under the carb to help evaporate the fuel. This doesn't work so well in a 2T as the fuel might evaporate but the oil won't. If cylinders are running lean, especially in a 2T they'll run hot and short on oil. That's an issue.
@Goomer
@Goomer 9 ай бұрын
When you first mentioned this project I envisioned the engine being vertical instead of horizontal.
@colinlowery3439
@colinlowery3439 8 ай бұрын
as it is a 2-stroke, why not just flip the motor upside down and build manifold with carb in center. it will run in any position.
@beatersnbeers2145
@beatersnbeers2145 9 ай бұрын
2 strokes can be turned upside down. Maybe do almost a regular v8 intake
@danromeo6571
@danromeo6571 9 ай бұрын
my wife would say sell everything ! 🙂
@shawngroover9003
@shawngroover9003 9 ай бұрын
Keep the boat engine. I have a 3.0 Mercruiser in my S-10. Just come back to it later and find a car or truck body for it. Now for the brutality. You look like a young, German Shepherd. Add a Shepherd silhouette to your logo.
@danielsplayhouse3804
@danielsplayhouse3804 9 ай бұрын
Maybe we can get an email going back and forth? I was saying I do TIG welding and aluminum TIG welding maybe we could use those aluminum butterflies and put some fuel injector bungs in the flange so you can use a megasquirt to operate your injectors and use the timing system under the flywheel?? One thing that I will say that I think you're going to have problems with is your exhaust system you have with a two-stroke you need to have expansion pipe on the cylinder so you could have the right amount of scavenging in order for a 2-stroke to run properly.
@kenmoule825
@kenmoule825 8 ай бұрын
The closest cylinders to the carb will be lean. Fuel will puddle and drown the far cylinders.
@fighttheswine
@fighttheswine 9 ай бұрын
I would figure out a way to 3d print like a proto type Intake with high heat filament make the intake walls thick, and I bet you would make yourself a monster.
@evanoliver7817
@evanoliver7817 9 ай бұрын
Flip it over and build the manifold it's a two stroke it lubes itself from the fuel the pistons don't care which way there moving
@maximeberube7490
@maximeberube7490 9 ай бұрын
I dont know if tauht about it but being a two stroke, you can run it upside down. It's only an idea. It sure make thing more complicated to fit it in a car but it seem to be really small for a v8
@WilliamCollins-sh6lm
@WilliamCollins-sh6lm 8 ай бұрын
Ok Mister Mom sounds like your daughter is about to leave earn mechanics and her way around the shop ??? Good bonding experience !!!
@lucky7s94
@lucky7s94 9 ай бұрын
Can't you make one of these engines run with four MSD boxes? Seems like they used four capacitive discharge ignition units potted in one "box" and connected each cdi unit to a pair of coils for the cylinders that meet TDC at the same time. I think I could get one running with four Ford duraspark boxes or four GM 4-pin HEI ignition modules if that's your flavor 😂 they're relatively inexpensive... I think you just need some outside help, an extra viewpoint with experience to present you with some viable options for this setup
@aj06bolt12r
@aj06bolt12r 9 ай бұрын
No damnit! I want to see if it will run at all with the 4 barrel and fab intake
@PapiDoesIt
@PapiDoesIt 9 ай бұрын
That engine would be really fun in a rail buggy.
@DatBlueHusky
@DatBlueHusky 9 ай бұрын
dude it costs like nothing to convert it to efi; Just go to a junk yard and find a truck LS motor harness and injectors, fit it and make a manifold and make it somehow trigger twice per revolution so it can inject the fuel on every stroke than other stroke like a 4 stroke would. After than you can tune the ecus on them. Or build a efi system with a speeddruino for around $300-400
@splob1981
@splob1981 9 ай бұрын
Sometimes it isn't about what's easiest, but about "is it possible?"
@espenschjelderup426
@espenschjelderup426 9 ай бұрын
I have yet to tune a EFI on a 2 stroke, but they are far from as easy to tune as a 4 stroke. You can't rely on O2 sensors for tuning the same way you do with modern standalones on 4 strokes. I agree on the Speeduino, or maybe a Megasquirt. And a MAF and EGT sensors to help tune it.
@StevenAlger-tt2je
@StevenAlger-tt2je 9 ай бұрын
Good luck and I'll keep watching
@ldgratrod
@ldgratrod 9 ай бұрын
Its been awhile since ive seen this project.. has anyone suggested 'up draft' carburetors yet? Also, you could absolutely get away with 4 side draft carbs, mounted down low, so you only need one 90° bend per runner..
@EddieTheH
@EddieTheH 8 ай бұрын
Or just a load of bike carbs, 1 per cylinder. I wouldn't envy him the balancing job though!!!
@elesjuan
@elesjuan 9 ай бұрын
Can’t recall if I mentioned this. There exists a SUPER cheap diy efi controller called Speedunio. I believe the main board is like $115 and you’ll need an additional arduino mega that’s like $30.
@WilliamCollins-sh6lm
@WilliamCollins-sh6lm 8 ай бұрын
Do those could have a flying"BB" and shake them to get it fireing ??? Like some lawnmowers ???
@jarvislarson6864
@jarvislarson6864 9 ай бұрын
Aftermarket ecm like fast and multipoint fuel injection wouldn't be much more cost wise and far easier than trial and error carb intake fabrication
@spankthemonkey3437
@spankthemonkey3437 9 ай бұрын
Build an expansion chamber on intake basically make a plenum as close to the block as possible combine both banks to one big wide chamber about 6 to 8 inches tall. Try about a 6 or 8 inch plenum chamber. Have your intake run straight down at end of plenum basically like you have it now kinda but have it connect down as far as possible at bottom of plenum. That way hopefully the air velocity coming down along with fuel won't puddle in bottom of intake 🤷 it's just a theory 🤣 where an engine like this may not require an expansion chamber on exhaust maybe it will work on intake. I know it's redundant but you need a little volume along with velocity as close to block as possible.
@astrawally8448
@astrawally8448 9 ай бұрын
it's a two stroke mate, the induction is done by the piston going up (not down like a four stoke) and fuel/air is initially drawn in underneath the piston in the crankcase. If you believe the fuel is still a liquid at this point, it will pool right in the bottom of the crankcase and never make it up past the transfer ports. But fuel is atomised no different to water in clouds, and like clouds it won't sink - water is heavier than air but the clouds still manage to float. Also Bernoulli's principle tells us if the intake is the same cross-sectional area, then at all points along that intake, the pressure and velocity (and hence flow) will be the same.
@Luminaring
@Luminaring 9 ай бұрын
Simplest is best. Stock carbs are tuned…easy…. Just weld up a intake manifold.
@2000freefuel
@2000freefuel 9 ай бұрын
Looks like you should try an M90 blower!
@shangoddard1289
@shangoddard1289 9 ай бұрын
Best project on KZbin ATM!! Love it!
@chaselarson4224
@chaselarson4224 9 ай бұрын
The sweden V8 2stroke drag car I think it's rad
@RANDOMNATION907
@RANDOMNATION907 9 ай бұрын
Happy Holidays to you too.
@fighttheswine
@fighttheswine 9 ай бұрын
And you will still be able to retain the horizontal orientation of the engine.
@shawngroover9003
@shawngroover9003 9 ай бұрын
I have seen people wire in a HEI module to numerous ignitions. Maybe this is your sign? 😊
@xozindustries7451
@xozindustries7451 9 ай бұрын
Family first! I’m glad you’re getting back to the cars, the two strokes are cool, but just not realistic in my opinion
@EddyB78
@EddyB78 9 ай бұрын
Watching the engine, why not put 2, 4 cilinder bike throttle bodys on there. 8 carbs would look cool.
@davidmobley5984
@davidmobley5984 9 ай бұрын
I'll watch any of your videos don't gotta be that v8:boat acher😅
@MrKingdavis13
@MrKingdavis13 9 ай бұрын
You could flip the motor over and make a single carb work on the top as well. 2 stroke will run the same upside down.
@astrawally8448
@astrawally8448 9 ай бұрын
No it won't. These engines need individual circuits on the inlet to make horsepower. They rely on pulses or oscillation on the inlet (and exhaust) to be able to perform, their inlets are very much tuned length and individual for this very reason. A common plenum (the carb itself) will hurt power as each cylinder's pulses will interfere or null out each other.
@MrKingdavis13
@MrKingdavis13 9 ай бұрын
@@astrawally8448 Forced induction changes that like the old 2 stroke diesels from yesteryear. I think it is worth a try anyhow but it's no my project. I was going to attempt making a northstar engine run like a 2 stroke but still have the 4 stroke lower by doubling the cam speed since the ignition system is already programmed to fir at each tdc event to only reprogramming that would have to happen is the fuel injection so I think it would be quite simple.
@SpecialAgentJamesAki
@SpecialAgentJamesAki 9 ай бұрын
Dude I love this! Subscribed!
@oubliette862
@oubliette862 9 ай бұрын
maybe repurpose a set of zoomies and put a carb on the end of each pipe. then maybe run the exhaust between them. idk if the intake on that engine should get heat or not.
@nerd1000ify
@nerd1000ify 9 ай бұрын
2-strokes don't normally need heating of the intake. They send the mixture through the crankcase before it goes into the cylinder, so usually it gets pretty well vapourised in there thanks to being constantly stirred by the spinning crankshaft and also heated up by the bottom of the piston. Also has an important function of cooling the moving parts; in a 4-stroke the oil cools the piston, bearings, etc basically by getting sprayed all over them and then draining back to the sump where the heat can be dissipated through the oil pan (or oil cooler). In a 2-stroke that obviously isn't an option, so the internal moving parts are mostly cooled by evaporation of the fuel as it passes through the crankcase.
@OzBull
@OzBull 9 ай бұрын
No expansion chamber. Not sure but I think the intake runners are too long. Where did the old fuel injectors go?. Are they in the head or intake?
@Nat-O
@Nat-O 9 ай бұрын
People in the comments are brutal haha but man you really cant put a price on knowledge you learn along the way, especially with those off the wall projects.
@danromeo6571
@danromeo6571 9 ай бұрын
Its easier to be organized when there is less crap laying around. Go with the flow and all will be cool.
@TomBudin
@TomBudin 9 ай бұрын
it's such a sick looking engine
@OzBull
@OzBull 9 ай бұрын
Filed in the to hard basket.
@ikonik6286
@ikonik6286 9 ай бұрын
legend
@michaellewis767
@michaellewis767 9 ай бұрын
I don't see why you couldn't put the four barrel right on bottom of the motor and mount the motor upside down
@travisosborne7281
@travisosborne7281 9 ай бұрын
Hey man I understand I've been waiting 2yrs to get my fourwheeler right
@spanishtreasure9551
@spanishtreasure9551 9 ай бұрын
already a dude who has v8 boat engine in car, Its not a fast as you think, and LS motor with turbo will smoke it , Older 300 horsepower v8 two stroke engine. 3000 cc/ 3litre if I remember correctly only makes 300hp ??? . Came from a boat outboard motor. Looks to have custom pipes, you can get 1500+ hp out of LS 5 litre @ 7000rpm thats the difference
@robertironside3166
@robertironside3166 8 ай бұрын
Like to see you take one of these old coups and getting one of those Unicorn sets of panels to turn one these old roached coups into a fastback... been watching this reverend / pastor on this set of how too diy video playlists.... they are cool if you want to build a fastback 67-9 and maybe use it to drop in say a modern SOHC V10 from an F350 lmao Have you seen the headway on those V10 single ovoer head cam motors [very much a tip of the hat to the original Cam-er's that dominated drag racing in the 60's and early 70's]. :-)) A project that has your name on it I would figure after following you for a few years now. ;-)
@cassianomartin2699
@cassianomartin2699 9 ай бұрын
Will it work turbocharged? Two stroke have no valves, how's supposed to fill in with air/fuel if the exhaust port is open? It's going to build a lot of pressure on crankcase too
@user-ug8pi6gd9f
@user-ug8pi6gd9f 9 ай бұрын
Badass
@thomas4315
@thomas4315 9 ай бұрын
Ha ha told ya. Not worth it going go exotic, struggle ….anything would make that Datsun fly, But one day you spend more time on it LOL
@reubenseelund7985
@reubenseelund7985 9 ай бұрын
Saw power was run to starter, was power ran to ignition module?,....
@thecrazyguy3537
@thecrazyguy3537 9 ай бұрын
It should be supercharged
@Sixsicdix
@Sixsicdix 8 ай бұрын
Put It in an 1980s chevette hatch back some how
@tacotracker1116
@tacotracker1116 9 ай бұрын
Do you have 12 volts going to the ecu?
@cobramike13bravo63
@cobramike13bravo63 9 ай бұрын
Family comes first, and if you got a sugar momma you better keep her happy. I’m glad to see you moving away from the two stroke shit boat motors. I want to see your channel succeed and your fighting a money and time pit. Focus your time on one build at a time and don’t get discouraged or overwhelmed by the build. Your will get better and more experienced as you go, you have the drive and talent to make it.
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