$200 Cheap LONGSWORD vs KATANA worth $1000

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Shadiversity

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In this video we pit an affordable but quality $200 longsword against a premium folded steel $1000 katana, and push them to their limits!
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@Zylo1111
@Zylo1111 Жыл бұрын
“The difference between screwing around and science is writing it down.” ― Adam Savage
@nocount7517
@nocount7517 Жыл бұрын
"We are professionals, because we get paid to do this." - Laurrey, Hydraulic Press Channel
@Stephen-T-Clark
@Stephen-T-Clark Жыл бұрын
"Science is sort of a long, passive aggressive argument about everything" -Ze Frank
@hotcoffee5542
@hotcoffee5542 Жыл бұрын
"That's what." -- She
@JoseRodriguez-eu5ez
@JoseRodriguez-eu5ez Жыл бұрын
​@@hotcoffee5542 This is a masterful comment.
@hotcoffee5542
@hotcoffee5542 Жыл бұрын
@@JoseRodriguez-eu5ez if only i were its originator, alas, i only copy what others have done before me...
@jacobweaver368
@jacobweaver368 Жыл бұрын
Myth Busters may be over, but the spirit of it definitely lived on here with you guys!
@andyappleton3353
@andyappleton3353 Жыл бұрын
Facts. I wish they'd hire Kari Byron to prance around swinging swords with that tight little body of hers.
@VidelxSpopovich
@VidelxSpopovich Жыл бұрын
I’m glad I’m not the only one who thinks so.
@Tach4nk4
@Tach4nk4 Жыл бұрын
@@andyappleton3353 Go to horny jail, NOW
@antoniodunbar1643
@antoniodunbar1643 Жыл бұрын
​@@andyappleton3353 tight mmmhmmm indeed thicc
@PoshBeard
@PoshBeard Жыл бұрын
@@andyappleton3353 Bruh wtf
@Redfield224
@Redfield224 Жыл бұрын
Shad is over here calling it cheap vs. expensive while I'm over here seeing expensive vs. even more expensive.
@tapurate638
@tapurate638 11 ай бұрын
Expensive vs my kidney.
@ChrisChronos
@ChrisChronos 2 ай бұрын
@@tapurate638 my kidney vs my mortgage
@Z.O.M.G
@Z.O.M.G Жыл бұрын
I love how there are a ton of people saying they should have procured a more expensive katana, but no one is saying the long sword should have costed the same to make the test fair
@heavilyarmedhippie75
@heavilyarmedhippie75 Жыл бұрын
Weebs do the same thing with guns. The nambu pistols and arisaka rifles were cheap surplus like everything else at the end of WW2, then weebs came around and gave them mythical status before ammo for them was obtainable and ballistics tests could be done
@mahmoudabduladeez7362
@mahmoudabduladeez7362 Жыл бұрын
​@@heavilyarmedhippie75the arisaka was pretty similar to the mosin nagant, right ?
@heavilyarmedhippie75
@heavilyarmedhippie75 Жыл бұрын
@@mahmoudabduladeez7362 in that it's a bolt action rifle with a bore roughly 6mm-8mm firing a full power rifle cartridge, yes. You could equate the rifles of the day to modern semi auto service pistols as to how similar they were to each other
@raiftadehara9218
@raiftadehara9218 Жыл бұрын
​@@heavilyarmedhippie75 actually FYI western experts find nambu and browning to be comparable in ingenuity, quality and reliability they don't compare any other gunsmiths to browning that I am aware of not really sure what you are talking about but whatever
@raiftadehara9218
@raiftadehara9218 Жыл бұрын
@Z.O.M.G what you and this channel don't understand is that a katana is a FENCING weapon meaning that it was designed for agility and speed so that it could make fast strikes with surgical precision it is not the Japanese version of a two handed broadsword that you handle like some berserker swinging for the fences to make a really fair comparison to a katana with its euro counterpart this test should have been made with something like a light rapier that is not made from modern spring steel but made in the actual types of steel common to Europe also the presenters of this video kept buzzwording "1,000 dollar katana" like that was the top of the line shizzleforizzle but the fact is that not all katana are created equal just like euro swords for example the ulfbert was an exceptional blade with fantastic properties meant to be carried by a king other viking swords were simply not as good well Japan is not too different yes there are some katana that were made for lesser bushi foot soldiers and some worthy of the shogun with fantastic properties that you could not even look at or buy for less than $500,000 US dollars this whole argument is stupid because it is based on the assumption that all steel in Japan is crap when the fact is that there is good steel AND crap steel in Japan just like europe and every other place in the world this argument is just like this channel coming from infantile and petty mentalities
@-cams.
@-cams. Жыл бұрын
gotta say, the new Shadi-Trio format really holds up so far AND it helps out Shad since he's been carrying the channel quasi-solo for so long.
@TerryProthero
@TerryProthero Жыл бұрын
It helps that Shad picked such great guys to do it with. It's so important to have quality people. And the three of them work so well together.
@shadowofhawk55
@shadowofhawk55 Жыл бұрын
I kinda hoped it would spawn more essay type videos, like the fantasy rearmed stuff, but this content overall is still fun.
@cryptorcd9352
@cryptorcd9352 Жыл бұрын
For real, i used to watch shad sometimes during the years. Now with the trio im looking forward every episode. The dynamic between 3 of them is insane
@MrPlainsflyer
@MrPlainsflyer Жыл бұрын
I agree, I'm loving the trio
@madeinchina4179
@madeinchina4179 Жыл бұрын
The question is: Who is Caesar, who is Crassus, and who is Pompey?
@Am_Cookie2436
@Am_Cookie2436 Жыл бұрын
One seriously cannot explain just how much abuse they put that bastard sword through before this, and it's a held up perfectly fine, even until now. So yeah.
@Am_Cookie2436
@Am_Cookie2436 Жыл бұрын
Ty for the heart!
@RoulicisThe
@RoulicisThe Жыл бұрын
Yeah, that sword has been around in his videos for quite a while, and it has seen A LOT of abuse. It's amazing how well the blade is holding up after all of this
@Am_Cookie2436
@Am_Cookie2436 Жыл бұрын
@@RoulicisThe that's good quality for you
@Keiranful
@Keiranful Жыл бұрын
@@Am_Cookie2436 that's modern metallurgy for you. I've actually been dreaming of commissioning a sword from the very best steel you can get, with high hardness AND flexibility (called trip steel, if you want to look it up).
@Am_Cookie2436
@Am_Cookie2436 Жыл бұрын
@Keiranful mhm. Goodluck on your commission there! And ty for the info, I'll definitely look it up
@GrayghostAlpha
@GrayghostAlpha Жыл бұрын
It's still amazing to me how many people don't realize that folded steel was originally a method for dealing with inconsistencies in the quality of the metal. It's used today for aesthetic or skill demonstration purposes and that's fine, but it pretty much always detracts from the functional quality of the blade. Great video guys, keep em coming.
@jasonyoung7705
@jasonyoung7705 Жыл бұрын
I was always amused when (somebody I know) would hear that a blade had over 1000 layers, he would say "it was folded over 1000 times". "No", I would say, "it was folded 10 times" Each fold doubles the layers. 1=(2), 2=(4), 3=(8), 4=(16), 5=(32), 6=(64), 7=(128), 8=(256), 9=(512), 10(1024)
@BogeyTheBear
@BogeyTheBear Жыл бұрын
At some point the layers become thinner than the iron atoms that make up the steel. Which is kind of the point if you're trying to make the steel uniform throughout.
@nobodyshome6792
@nobodyshome6792 Жыл бұрын
@@BogeyTheBear yea, it's called graphene. And that is less than 20 years old.
@BogeyTheBear
@BogeyTheBear Жыл бұрын
@@nobodyshome6792 No. It's called "mixing something completely up" and it's been around since forever.
@nobodyshome6792
@nobodyshome6792 Жыл бұрын
@@BogeyTheBear without carbon, iron isn't steel. Think about that for a while.
@BogeyTheBear
@BogeyTheBear Жыл бұрын
@@nobodyshome6792 Think about this: Fold something enough times, it no longer has any layers.
@jesuizanmich
@jesuizanmich Жыл бұрын
katanas very easily reach that point where you are paying for traditional craftsmanship rather than durability or quality anymore. the difference will be even more pronounced when you consider traditional craftsmanship is basically replicating the historical process of making good enough steel given lack of good raw materials. Modern springsteel is going to be more durable in almost every way. One thing I would be curious about is how good historical medieval spring steel was. Surely we have a range from really good to really bad, but I suspect their definition of really good probably didn't reach modern industrial levels. I don't know how easy it is to obtain a longsword made from historical raw materials, but it would be interesting to compare historical and modern longswords.
@spicketspaghet7773
@spicketspaghet7773 Жыл бұрын
A good idea. It is noted that the poorer ends of swords were really genuinely crappy steel. Some historical examples are equivalent to only 1025 steel, which is barely high-carbon. They do all tend to show evidence of a monohardening process. Higher end examples have actually shown to be very comparable to 1065, 1075, and some modern spring steels. The later the sword was made tends to increase the quality of the steel. Rapiers were only possible with good steel. The Renaissance and Late Medieval periods saw good swords being made with plenty good steel.
@4Curses
@4Curses Жыл бұрын
well, there is that video of a german sword smith Stefan Roth, who is well-known in both, historical japanese forging and medieval european forging and learned both traditional fighting styles.I seem to remember he made all the swords they tested himself.
@duckpotat9818
@duckpotat9818 Жыл бұрын
Wootz steel (which isn't even European but it's the best pre modern steel, so expect worse) is the closest and even it's not better than the best modern spring steels while costing it's weight in silver. So even the best historic swords would definitely be at best on par with modern processes but not identical (Wootz steel depended on the impurities in it's source for some properties)
@nobodyshome6792
@nobodyshome6792 Жыл бұрын
Modern steel is vastly superior. Higher tensile strength, considerably more impact resistance and way fewer impurities. The historical method is cheap steel. Even if it costs more to make. I have owned and made weapons using historical methods, just as I have made and owned weapons made using modern methods. And some in between. Modern steel is just so much superior in terms of quality and lack of impurities. You're better off comparing historical steel to wood, and not modern refined steel. Hell, modern nickle and aluminum are better than medieval steel!
@nobodyshome6792
@nobodyshome6792 Жыл бұрын
@@spicketspaghet7773 steel that still contains 10% or higher impurities. In Williamsburg there is a great little blacksmith shop. They make weapons using colonial age processes, the steel that is produced using colonial techniques is nowhere near as good as any steel made using the Bessemer Process. Or modern variations of. Open Hearth smelting is nowhere near as good as Basic Oxygen or Electric Arc processes.
@ComradeMeow
@ComradeMeow Жыл бұрын
The reason Japanese swordsmiths do the folding and differential hardening has nothing to do with the Katana somehow being better than a Longsword. Its just that the quality of the iron ore they had in Medieval Japan was lower than that of iron ore available in Europe. So, the reason those swordsmithing techniques were developed in Japan, was to make up for the poor quality of the ore. In other words, to produce a Katana of similar performance to a Longsword, you need to do all those extra steps, if using traditional Japanese iron.
@SkullOfTheRaven
@SkullOfTheRaven Жыл бұрын
Exactly. It seems all these katana superfans that are like "oh it's not authentic, it's not folded" don't seem to realize that a katana made with modern techniques are almost always higher quality than traditionally made katana, mainly due to the material quality but also the methods being more exact
@waterbender6288
@waterbender6288 Жыл бұрын
Nah fr they didn’t invent blast furnaces so they got stuck with shit tier steel that had severely inconsistent carbon levels, and people think that that’s an advantage 😂
@SeanCrosser
@SeanCrosser Жыл бұрын
Yeah, the homogenous steel, differentially hardened katana they had last time practically performs just as well for this reason. Unless if you wanna go for the crazy 7 layer construction katanas, I'd love to put one of those under crazy tests to see if it helps any.
@Pharland
@Pharland Жыл бұрын
As a Japanese man the level of misconception some people have about the Katana is frustratingly confusing
@user-cd5fm3hh9k
@user-cd5fm3hh9k Жыл бұрын
To be fair, folding is not something unique and was used in europe since 800 BC, west asia since 1300 BC
@MH-yp6wg
@MH-yp6wg 11 ай бұрын
When thinking about edge retention, don't forget you have two edges on that longsword. So even IF one of these edges gets dull faster than the Katana's, you flip it around and have a fresh one. Or you just use both edges about the same and distribute the dulling effect.
@Caio-ow5tm
@Caio-ow5tm 9 ай бұрын
Edge retention 🥴🥴🥴
@BandanaGames
@BandanaGames Жыл бұрын
Shad and crew, loving the trio format! Been a fan for a very long time. I have something rather inexpensive I think you guys would be perfect to test. Post apocalypse on the horizon, we NEED to know the efficacy of Tire Armor. Love you guys. Keep up the stellar work!
@KingOfAquilonia
@KingOfAquilonia 11 ай бұрын
100% want to see tire armor tested. Make this happen please!
@BandanaGames
@BandanaGames 11 ай бұрын
@@KingOfAquilonia In the whip testing video they slapped Boromir around and he was wearing tire armor so dreams do come true!
@infinitenex8165
@infinitenex8165 Жыл бұрын
it was really satisfying to look at the pool noodle cutting when the swords were re-sharpened
@anzerupnik1442
@anzerupnik1442 Жыл бұрын
You know they will try to break the swords when Tyrant (edit:Tyranth) reaches for the bastard sword instead of katana.
@Am_Cookie2436
@Am_Cookie2436 Жыл бұрын
Yep.
@ObjectiveZoomer
@ObjectiveZoomer Жыл бұрын
His stage name is Tyranth, with a th
@anzerupnik1442
@anzerupnik1442 Жыл бұрын
@@ObjectiveZoomer sorry, thank you for correction
@Fenris86
@Fenris86 Жыл бұрын
The broadsword here looks quite like the one Boromir has in the Jackson movies, so it automatically has a leg up in my book. I am also really looking forward to that "other" video, because I really like Kriegsmesser and Falchions.
@htenerf137
@htenerf137 Жыл бұрын
I think it’s been an amazing journey to watch how your team has grown over the past several years and the series of videos you guys have been putting out in the last few months really shows. Shadiversity has always been amazing but you guys have gelled together so well and this content is proof. I can’t wait for your videos every week boys!
@Starsky3022
@Starsky3022 Жыл бұрын
I feel like this may have been a topic already, but in case it hasn't been: A video on how regularly soldiers or knights would switch their blades/swords because of them getting damaged would be cool. Knowing if there were perhaps historical references to certain smiths who were doing especially good or bad work etc.
@gamermanzeake
@gamermanzeake Жыл бұрын
This has always popped up in the back of my mind when thinking about medieval warfare.
@Talishar
@Talishar Жыл бұрын
The interesting thing is that in nearly all cultures, swords were expensive and something kept even after being broken or damaged on the battlefield. They were often reforged into new swords or ground down and reformed into smaller blades. Folks back then weren't as wasteful as we may think they were and recycling was very much a thing for expensive tools/artifacts.
@blumiu2426
@blumiu2426 Жыл бұрын
@@Talishar Let's not forget those that stripped bodies on the field if resources were low. They made use of what they could and some would find their way being sold by actual corpse looters scouring battlefields.
@alexturnbackthearmy1907
@alexturnbackthearmy1907 Жыл бұрын
@@blumiu2426 Yeah, corpse with armor and weapon intact is exception.
@texasbeast239
@texasbeast239 Жыл бұрын
Several vids have told us recently that medieval sword consumers were fine with superficial imperfections when sword shopping because they simply didn't expect perfection. They understood that asymmetry and what-not came with the territory. So did they likewise expect chippage/breakage to come with the territory, to the point that they didn't even bother to track which sword marks lasted longer?
@RATLANTIS
@RATLANTIS Жыл бұрын
The point about how a katana inspires a very specific chopping motion was really interesting to me, because of Japanese culture. For centuries, there was and has been a huge amount of mythologizing around "how" to use a sword. Schools like Shinkageryu or Niten-Ichi, for instance. Very rigid rules for, and definitions of, swordplay. So the katana being hyper-specialized into a specific niche makes sense; it came from a culture that was all about hyper-specializing into a certain niche.
@toomanyaccounts
@toomanyaccounts Жыл бұрын
the tech to overcome piss poor iron in sword making means the japanese blades were not blunt instruments like a lot of European blades
@LeFlamel
@LeFlamel Жыл бұрын
Probably backwards association - it was the material reality behind the katana that produced a culture of specificity around swordplay.
@SergeantSniper
@SergeantSniper Жыл бұрын
@@toomanyaccounts European swords aren't blunt either, pal.
@toomanyaccounts
@toomanyaccounts Жыл бұрын
@@SergeantSniper learn what the term blunt instrument means. it isn't literal
@atomiicpunk
@atomiicpunk Жыл бұрын
@@toomanyaccounts It is literal, and you're the one that should learn what the term blunt instrument means. Sheesh
@ServantOfSatania
@ServantOfSatania Жыл бұрын
Can't wait for sequel where Shad is even fairer and tests Katana against a kitchen knife
@TheDeinonychus
@TheDeinonychus Жыл бұрын
Joreg Sprave had a very interesting video over on his channel, where he wanted to see if he could make a usable sword out of a bar of structural steel. At the end, he ended up taking it to someone who does make katanas using traditional tahagame steel to learn how he might be able to improve it. At the end of the video, they did some cutting tests with Joreg's 'orc sword' and a katana made with traditional materials and techniques. In the end, the guy said that so long as the blade is sharp, it's more about a person's technique than anything to do with the sword, and to prove it, he did some cutting with a kitchen knife
@Tounushi
@Tounushi Жыл бұрын
A Nikkei knife?
@catosicarius3027
@catosicarius3027 Жыл бұрын
​@@TheDeinonychusfun fact, that isn't true at all. Many swords are made to fit many different areas. Most of the time a katana is made for cutting, while longswords and many European swords were built to cut but mostly crush. Due to medieval armor during that time.
@robertthebruce6035
@robertthebruce6035 Жыл бұрын
​@@catosicarius3027"Mostly Crush" 🤡
@ssjbread2803
@ssjbread2803 Жыл бұрын
​@@catosicarius3027that's not how a longsword defeats armor bro, not even close
@highborn18
@highborn18 Жыл бұрын
Honestly these more technical or analytical videos you guys have been doing have just kept me hooked start to finish. Good work guys!
@MaticTheProto
@MaticTheProto Жыл бұрын
According to the documentary game „Metal Gear Rising:Revengeance“, Katanas can easily cut trough a tank
@sjhssjjsjs5884
@sjhssjjsjs5884 Жыл бұрын
that hello fresh transition was soooo smooth
@TerryProthero
@TerryProthero Жыл бұрын
They get a sponsor and a good lunch while they are shooting videos. It's perfect.
@gamermanzeake
@gamermanzeake Жыл бұрын
It was very funny the way Tyranth was looking at the camera quite menacingly. You could see the sponsor coming a mile off, yet it was smooth to transition, and I didn't skip! Everyone else, I skip. That's mostly due to my having no interest in folk's sponsors. But I digress.
@Echo_419
@Echo_419 Жыл бұрын
Same, even though I know the sponsor is coming, I don't skip them on Shadiversity videos.
@VidelxSpopovich
@VidelxSpopovich Жыл бұрын
You guys really have turned into Renaissance Fair Mythbusters. I like it.
@raifthemad
@raifthemad Жыл бұрын
The thing I don't remember hearing you mention, is that if you ruin an edge on a longsword, you can just flip it since you have another pristine one still available.
@mksmike
@mksmike 10 ай бұрын
"Don't worry, I struck him with the back of the blade... oops."
@raifthemad
@raifthemad 10 ай бұрын
@@mksmike You really believe, that this anime strategy was in use by real swordsmen?
@mksmike
@mksmike 10 ай бұрын
@@raifthemad It's a joke and I don't have an opinion on that. But even if the swordsman tried the impact alone can break the person's bones.
@raifthemad
@raifthemad 10 ай бұрын
@@mksmike Sadly written medium does not convey jokes that well. I could see how someone would make that statement in absolute seriousness, hence my question.
@mksmike
@mksmike 10 ай бұрын
@@raifthemad Oh come on. Even if that was an actual thing there's no way the user wouldn't see the longsword has an edge on each side.
@mattjack3983
@mattjack3983 Жыл бұрын
I own all three versions of United Cutlery's Honshu Single Hand Broadsword (actually a bastard sword), the one you have in your video, the one they make in 1065 steel with a brown grip and brown sheath and mirror polish blade, and the Midnight Forge version. And they are some of my absolute favorite swords! For $230, it's difficult to find a better, more durable sword. (Even tho the factory edge sucks and I had to sharpen it myself). I've put them to the test and have really been hard on them, and they hold up very well. That sword is an absolute beast. I'd take that sword into actual battle any day and have complete confidence in it.
@tekken.universal2343
@tekken.universal2343 Жыл бұрын
Actually it is not bastard sword it is broad bastard sword
@mattjack3983
@mattjack3983 Жыл бұрын
@@tekken.universal2343 I don't get too nitpicky with the terminology. Shad also refers to it as a "bastard sword" . It not all that serious.
@tekken.universal2343
@tekken.universal2343 Жыл бұрын
@@mattjack3983 i am just joking
@SerAvaros
@SerAvaros Жыл бұрын
Do all three have the same weight? Just was wondering since I saw some reviews of the brown grip one feeling heavy in the hand.
@mj31382
@mj31382 Жыл бұрын
Nah...I would just use a gun
@jstewart4725
@jstewart4725 Жыл бұрын
I am about as sword literate as a possum but I found this video very interesting as a fan of samurai movies. Good work guys.
@zaekulia
@zaekulia Жыл бұрын
It was interesting, but please don't take this too seriously The video is clearly a jab against Katana weebs and they are still biased (which is totally ok, it's just like Violin players reviewing a Cello) In the end swords are swords and it's not about "which is better?" but "who is better?"
@triscuitgonzalez7936
@triscuitgonzalez7936 Жыл бұрын
@@zaekulia exactly. It’s also the question of “better at what” Swords are tools, tools have different jobs, for the most part no one tool is objectively better than another bc they’re all for different things
@zwenkwiel816
@zwenkwiel816 Жыл бұрын
Don't underestimate the swordmanship of possums though...
@steeldriver1776
@steeldriver1776 Жыл бұрын
@@zwenkwiel816 that’s what I’m saying! Like he just straight up insulted the possum kingdom and I wouldn’t be that brave.
@stonelion99
@stonelion99 Жыл бұрын
I think you underestimate the capabilities of a possum.
@EnemyN7
@EnemyN7 Жыл бұрын
I swear, every video keeps getting better and better! Thanks for being informative and entertaining.
@BurchellAtTheWharf
@BurchellAtTheWharf 11 ай бұрын
7:57 one of the smoothest segways in history
@troo_6656
@troo_6656 Жыл бұрын
I've got to say I didn't have as much time to watch as many of your videos as I would like in the past year but every time I tune in I just end up leaving with a smile while learning something. Love you lads keep up the good work
@rukathekid7853
@rukathekid7853 Жыл бұрын
God, I'd love to spend a day with these guys
@tankythemagnorite9855
@tankythemagnorite9855 Жыл бұрын
Wouldn't we all.
@JKMlive
@JKMlive Жыл бұрын
Just a day?
@dschnaible
@dschnaible Жыл бұрын
I’d love to buy a castle and be a neighbor… but I’m in Texas and there are certain possessions I can’t give up to move.
@reaganjanaerichard5009
@reaganjanaerichard5009 Жыл бұрын
Same. Same.
@andyappleton3353
@andyappleton3353 Жыл бұрын
Amazing how difficult it is to find just a few people with a similar interest such as this isn't it?
@brendenjohnston7946
@brendenjohnston7946 Жыл бұрын
A lot of people seem to think that all long swords were extremely springy or completely mono-hardened. A lot were actually made to be stiffer and differentially hardened. It all depends on what kind of sword you are looking at.
@retconned4092
@retconned4092 Жыл бұрын
also video idea, in the demon slayer anime one of the character uses a katana that he intentionally chips the blade which appears to cut better in the same way a serrated steak knife does, a video showing the efficacy of such a blade would make an interesting video although will certainly destroy a sword you're choice if you wanna destroy a katana but i'd love to see it
@Matthew_Jensen
@Matthew_Jensen Жыл бұрын
It would be fun to have a chat about the nuances of sword testing.
@pietropieragnoli1346
@pietropieragnoli1346 Жыл бұрын
Yea, i mean , when they bend the katana the edge allinement was off
@dlatrexswords
@dlatrexswords Жыл бұрын
Would certainly appreciate this type of collaboration
@pietropieragnoli1346
@pietropieragnoli1346 Жыл бұрын
In the site there is written that katana is t10 stell in the core, and damascus hamon in the edge(that means e nothing) So i dont know, the fact that katana is inferior in this test is the way the test is done , or the material of the katana, or the shape of the katana(?) Personally i think is the material of the katana and the way was heat treated ( a bad temper can cause the katana bend)
@Donky_Kongs_Baby
@Donky_Kongs_Baby Жыл бұрын
​@Pietro Pieragnoli That's not that problem I own several live katanas they not designed to take punishment of any type out side of hitting soft targets. They are great slicing weapons but that's where the buck stops. I own 1 that's over 3000 dollars made from Japan really sharp high quality. They are great side arms but they are not really good at hard long combat.
@SeanCrosser
@SeanCrosser Жыл бұрын
​@@pietropieragnoli1346katanas are designed to bend and take the set when swung badly, because thats better than snapping. Taking a set like this one did isn't a failure. Authentic katanas take sets.
@TYRANTH_
@TYRANTH_ Жыл бұрын
I Love katana"s Okay guys !! I know it dosnt seem like it lately...
@garethvila5108
@garethvila5108 Жыл бұрын
You can only truly love something if you can accept their weak points along with the strong ones. And you truly love the katana.
@Han-rw9ev
@Han-rw9ev Жыл бұрын
For a while I forgot I was watching an advert. And the way the katana was used to prepare food somehow seemed perfectly natural. And every time I see Shad's videos, I keep thinking I picked the wrong career..
@EQINOX187
@EQINOX187 Жыл бұрын
Thing is people often misunderstand why the folded the steel as being they wanted to make a super strong steel, the reality is folded steal is not any stronger than non folded steel, the reason that they folded steal was because of the method they used to make the chunks of steel was not good and it lead to a lot of impurities in the steal and it is very weak and by folding the steal over and over you work those impurities out making the steel stronger, in Europe and other country's the steel making process was far more advanced and produced pretty clean steel that was already strong
@darrellhendrix5502
@darrellhendrix5502 Жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure that is what he said at the beginning of the video.
@RevanR
@RevanR Жыл бұрын
8:20 I know its sponsorship but cooking with Katana is a worthy video challenge on its own
@Akira-Aerins
@Akira-Aerins Жыл бұрын
nah. Wakizashi.
@garethbaus5471
@garethbaus5471 Жыл бұрын
Sounds a lot like fruit ninja.
@ralynedin
@ralynedin Жыл бұрын
I would say the pommel strike is a little bit more effective with an actual pommel, but there are butt strikes with the katana. Yes the katana also has a guard similar to Oachs/Finestra, but they are mainly meant for cuts, at least in the style that i am learning.
@roadsideshanty1790
@roadsideshanty1790 Жыл бұрын
I love u guys, been getting really into the history an use of swords and u guys give me so much content useful to my search for knowledge
@Nelikin
@Nelikin Жыл бұрын
When they're going over the tests it always looks like Tyranth is mad that the katana isn't performing better lol
@elios7623
@elios7623 Жыл бұрын
that chiken with veggies looked reeeeally good omg
@SeanCrosser
@SeanCrosser Жыл бұрын
Can't seem to find the video again but part of my sword-buying research once led me to a video of a japanese cutting contest. Lotta old swordsmen in hakama and gi, using really nice swords to cut tatami. And the main point of the video was the guy sitting on the side, on a raised wood platform. The cutters would do their cuts, check their sword, and then sometimes hand them to the guy. The guy would accept the sword, check it, and then begin correct any sets that those swords had took after doing the cuts. So yeah: even expensive katanas are expected to take sets when you put them through their paces. Especially for thinner cutter swords, they're known to take sets, and that's okay! Better a set than snapping.
@captianbacon
@captianbacon Жыл бұрын
I gotta say the hello fresh ads just feel extremely natural when you do them in these sword videos idk why. Mabey cause I watch while I'm cooking usually...
@MoehClon
@MoehClon Жыл бұрын
Really nice videos with all three of you. I hope this is a system that Shad can live with without putting too much strain on himself. I‘m also always happy when seeing the hello fresh advertisements, cause I realize just how genuine this is meant. You are really recommending it! Love them and the brilliant Segways.
@supsup335
@supsup335 Жыл бұрын
I train kendo/jaido, etc. I love katanas and their kin. But i predict that for the price you pay for a sword, the 200 buck version will be enough. In other words, a katana is very good at what it's made for, but knowing the japanese mindset, let's just say i don't think the inventor was making a durable, easy to fix sword and instead just maxed out all the other stats. Makes it a beast at cutting flesh, but i can see the guy say: if it breaks, it was the users fault😅. Springsteel longsword? Put a dent in it? Just hammer it out a bit, see? Good to go again. So yeah, i think this one goes to the longsword, hands down in terms of what it offers compared to the price tag
@jmell458
@jmell458 Жыл бұрын
I know you guys are professionals... But accidents can happen to anyone! Please, be careful and armour up!
@jmell458
@jmell458 Жыл бұрын
There's been a few too many close calls on this channel lately... I dread the day you have to make the community post saying 'Unfortunately one of the Shadiversity team members has passed away during a shoot for a video'
@raven1728
@raven1728 Жыл бұрын
"Professionals"
@bavariancarenthusiast2722
@bavariancarenthusiast2722 Жыл бұрын
I always shiver that somebody grips on the blade and loses his finger - but well they know what they are doing
@Raakarapu
@Raakarapu Жыл бұрын
@@raven1728 Professional as opposed to amateur only means that you make money doing what ever it is your doing. So yes they qualify.
@jmell458
@jmell458 Жыл бұрын
@@bavariancarenthusiast2722 Or if a blade snaps, or the wind changes and an arrow goes astray, or a wood chip slices someone's lip (one of the hardest parts of the body to repair)... Any number of things outside of their direct control could feasibly happen. Even a proper HEMA helmet/mask would go a long way to help them
@Grandwigg
@Grandwigg Жыл бұрын
This was an amazing video. The narration was fun, and the content engaging. I love what I'm seeing here.
@SDreamchaser1990
@SDreamchaser1990 Жыл бұрын
Love the format, you guys!
@xavierhugo9269
@xavierhugo9269 Жыл бұрын
Okay that intro was awesome!
@Elderand
@Elderand Жыл бұрын
I always thought the reason why people keep comparing longsword to katanas (despite, as you mentioned, longsword being not really comparable) is as an extension of the comparison people make between knights and samurai.
@TheLifeLaVita
@TheLifeLaVita Жыл бұрын
which again, is not really comparable
@escapetherace1943
@escapetherace1943 Жыл бұрын
if we were to compare a knight would smash a samurai all day long the same way a longsword is better than a katana in durability, techniques you can use, balance of the sword, etc., I think people compare them a lot though because of the "legend" of the katana being something it isn't was spread through the internet and adopted by neckbeards, basically.
@joaotoe2833
@joaotoe2833 Жыл бұрын
It's just comparing two weapons
@escapetherace1943
@escapetherace1943 Жыл бұрын
@@joaotoe2833 yeah you can compare them, they have the same use and do the same thing. Just because they didnt cross in a battlefield doesn't mean you can't compare them, that is the most fedora-tipping tier argument there is.
@jose6378
@jose6378 Жыл бұрын
I would say they aren't immediately comparable. Katanas were made for a different environment under different circumstances with different resources than a longsword. To be called a good sword it needs to be good in the environment it was meant for. Would the longsword be better for the purposes the katana was used for? Using similar resources? At what point do you separate the technology used to make the sword from the sword itself?
@Ilyak1986
@Ilyak1986 Жыл бұрын
Always up for some good old fantasy Mythbusters! Love it! Great work, guys!
@dutchofsorissi7729
@dutchofsorissi7729 Жыл бұрын
Best Hello Fresh ad ever. Like seriously that would be a hit if it played on TV with no context- an otherwise-regular food commercial but the dude's cutting everything with a katana.
@DamianPendragon
@DamianPendragon Жыл бұрын
You guys cutting the food with the swords was great lol. What a creative way to make the sponsor relavent
@wolokowoh0
@wolokowoh0 Жыл бұрын
To be fair, the fact Tyranth broke the wood with the katana specifically because of one of the reason it bent. And I don't mean the softer spine and differential hardening. The lack of the ability to flex and return to shape actually transfers more energy as blunt force trauma because it has less give. This is coupled with a single edge design creates a wedge effect. The blade is thicker than some once you get past the edge. The thick it gets the better at splitting rather than chopping it becomes. This means it is less likely to get stuck in the wood too than a thinner blade. The ease of edge alignment would also reduce the bend in the final state compared to some other swords. This also factors into why that strike also knocked it off its brace point. It was the blunt force that transferred into the wood. And this all brings up splitting versus chopping. For example, a felling axe chops deeper but you have to chop further in before a split occurs even when chopping with the grain. But on standing trees you are not trying to split the wood,. You are trying to use the least amount of swings to cut deeper into it. A splitting axe gets wider sooner and pushes any penetrated material apart. It seems like something similar is occurring with the katana. What else splits or cracks. Well bones. In which case, the katana may split bones with less penetration into the bones because of differences in weight distribution and thickness. If armor materials have a tendency to split, the form of the katana and other single edge blades may be more effective while also being alright at chopping.
@TheLifeLaVita
@TheLifeLaVita Жыл бұрын
it was all good and dandy until the "what else... well...". Very forced
@HamzaBoujelouah
@HamzaBoujelouah Жыл бұрын
That intro might be one of the coolest things I've ever seen
@RedneckGodKing
@RedneckGodKing Жыл бұрын
The starting production is great on this video! Great direction!
@hukaman88
@hukaman88 Жыл бұрын
Katana, long sword.....yeah just gimme a musket and call it even lol
@its_dey_mate
@its_dey_mate Жыл бұрын
Put a bayonet and you practically got yourselt a spear, and we all know that the sharp pointy bit on a stick is the ultimate weapon humanity has concieved.
@thebanditman5663
@thebanditman5663 Жыл бұрын
From a development standpoint, it should be noted that the Katana is an evolution from the Tachi which was a cavalry sword, very similar in form to later era sabers. The "longsword" in this case evolved from an infantry weapon. Can't wait for the Katana Vs Messer. It's a review that's long overdue.
@flaviusiacob1558
@flaviusiacob1558 Жыл бұрын
Really fun video guys
@1212Diablo
@1212Diablo Жыл бұрын
Good start to the video!
@darthcanadian007
@darthcanadian007 Жыл бұрын
Needed to add unbreaking 3 first silly
@john_free_thinker
@john_free_thinker Жыл бұрын
I think this is one of the best videos you made. It high lights that some cheaper price swords are pretty good and don't deserver the toxic hate they will receive. I have a few swords like this and I have even tested them, they are pretty strong with the only issues being a not so sharp blade and some cost cutting in the assembly or quality. Either way, good video and I hope to see more videos like this one.
@kingstew2000
@kingstew2000 11 ай бұрын
Out of all the hello fresh videos on youtube yours is the first one that made me actually want to try it. I loved it.
@darkminstrel2041
@darkminstrel2041 Жыл бұрын
I really liked this format as well as the video!
@lonewolf0712
@lonewolf0712 11 ай бұрын
I think something people forget when talking about the Katana being folded is why it was folded. Japan didn't have access to stronger metals so they had to fold it to make it strong enough to be used as a sword. Katanas made of stronger metals don't need to be folded to begin with, so it's not a problem if they aren't folded. Personally I'm more into sabers than longswords or katanas. Small, quick, and precise. Funny enough most sabers have the same blade length as a katana, the katana just has a longer grip since it is meant for 2 hands.
@Johannes--evangelium736
@Johannes--evangelium736 9 ай бұрын
日本刀も馬上で使う為に進化してきた経緯があるから、用途としては本来サーベルに近い。 厳密には太刀と打刀で違う用途だけど、打刀は太刀からの派生だしね。
@slidewaayz
@slidewaayz Жыл бұрын
I think wearing an 8” laced up (combat style) boot would greatly improve footwork and help ankle support. Love you guys, keep up the good work.
@jameshamaker9321
@jameshamaker9321 Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@mrfrupo
@mrfrupo Жыл бұрын
the trio really does add a lot to the channel.
@Closer2Zero
@Closer2Zero Жыл бұрын
On Mythbusters, Grant would build a robot to make strikes strong enough to break things and bend test objects. On Shadiversity, we have 1 man
@Maehedrose
@Maehedrose Жыл бұрын
That was a good commercial, I liked the thematic use of the swords. Also, a good video. I am impressed by how well the spring steel holds up against the Katana.
@kamikaze00007
@kamikaze00007 Жыл бұрын
I think there's a misconception going on about this entire thing with regards to the folding. The only point of "folding" is to incorporate the softer, flexible steel, with the harder steel. The use of different steels into the fold, and then differential hardening the entire thing, is to make the sword with a hard enough edge for sharpness and durability, while also having a core and spine that is able to absorb the impact well enough without breaking or bending into catastrophic failure. It's meant to create a type of structure inside the blade that absorbs or resists impact and deformity in different extents much like with building a skyscraper that can dance to the winds at higher floors as well as resist toppling during earthquakes. The removal of imperfection is second and an added bonus to that process. By the time a billet is forged into one piece--before the cutting and folding is done, the tamahagane has already undergone the impurity removal and further selection process of which piece of wafer gets used for the edge, and which wafer gets used for the core or spine--in various combinations depending on the desired structure. I would highly suggest watching these two specific great reference videos on how traditional Japanese swordsmithing is done so you can understand what I'm talking about. They explain it quite well in English so it is fairly easy to understand. I'll also link two Wikipedia pages about this process that has great info and also mentions things like how this "steel sandwich" process has been done by different swordsmiths (on the diagram you can also see Masamune's 7-layer steel sandwich method used on his swords): Sources: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nanaiJljgsuNjM0
@laurawindram7488
@laurawindram7488 11 ай бұрын
The two other people really raise the vid quality. I love it.
@user-xg1wo4qp6m
@user-xg1wo4qp6m Жыл бұрын
I love watching these guys
@twizzler-906-7
@twizzler-906-7 Жыл бұрын
This is a very entertaining and educational video great work team Shad. Although it does break my heart seeing a beautiful sword get destroyed when I can’t afford a proper one
@drakecassell1840
@drakecassell1840 Жыл бұрын
The best trio on KZbin
@XxskidudekidxX
@XxskidudekidxX Жыл бұрын
Shoutout to the young fellow for being reliably unbiased. Great video guys.
@MeatObelisk
@MeatObelisk Жыл бұрын
i love how shad hands them swords like santa clause man that was wholesome
@Kingofredeyes
@Kingofredeyes Жыл бұрын
The beauty of the Katana isn't that it is some special amazing sword among swords. The beauty of a Katana is the craftsmanship to turn garbage like tamahagani into a beautiful and effective weapon that can even be compared to other weapons made with vastly superior ore. Not to put down the craftsmanship of Western smith's and their abilities, they are equally as amazing. I just wish people would stop with the whole "katana is God's gift to swords" nonsense.
@steveborgresistance8310
@steveborgresistance8310 10 ай бұрын
Excellent work! 👍
@TemperedMedia
@TemperedMedia Жыл бұрын
Possibly the only channel I watch where I see the sponsorship coming and I smile
@hotdachsbun
@hotdachsbun Жыл бұрын
The katana is so shiny that in most scenes it looks green because it's reflecting the grass. That's pretty neat
@skylerthacreator
@skylerthacreator Жыл бұрын
After bashing it you should do the apple test, like forged in fire? They line up apples slice through all of em at once.
@kurtisdeakin
@kurtisdeakin Жыл бұрын
Really enoyed this! Good work boys.
@Dundien-ix4kd
@Dundien-ix4kd Жыл бұрын
I havent seen this yet but looks AWSOME
@JustTooDamnHonest
@JustTooDamnHonest Жыл бұрын
Not all swords are created equal.
@BigPanda096
@BigPanda096 Жыл бұрын
2:53 This little passby skit was so damn good that myself and my mother, father, sister and brother-in-law collectivly bursted our sides out at how casually they come in with the comparison Shad was talking about, just arguing and walking by, and then how casually Shad gets back on track. Must have replayed that scene at least 4-5 times. That was way too funny! That was very good stuff Shad!
@garlicofrivervale1649
@garlicofrivervale1649 11 ай бұрын
Shad, You really seem to be a lot better since the boys joined the team. I really do hope you ARE feeling better. I love the energy in your recent videos and I love seeing you a bit more relaxed.
@blackdevildog6416
@blackdevildog6416 Жыл бұрын
"We put longswords and katanas against each other to find out which one is the better blade!" I'll take a falx and a hike.
@ntrntzmb
@ntrntzmb Жыл бұрын
that gambison is fire! Foam is weirdly tough on blades...
@dereksloan9585
@dereksloan9585 Жыл бұрын
so fun. great videos!
@cougar9610
@cougar9610 Жыл бұрын
Function over looks. Katanas were mainly worn for decoration and as a sign of power, like the Nambu pistol.
@HERRESHOFFGSD
@HERRESHOFFGSD Жыл бұрын
08:00 This is the first time I haven't skipped an ad on YT. Congrats guys.
@Dannyboyefc
@Dannyboyefc Жыл бұрын
The broadsword is very similar to Boromirs
@Ralith09
@Ralith09 Жыл бұрын
Love it! Keep it up! Subbed on Playur
@Irongarrison.5764
@Irongarrison.5764 Жыл бұрын
Always love seeing your videos and showing my little brother; he likes the cutting part but i hope he learns some things too.
@saizero0433
@saizero0433 Жыл бұрын
wow, that "professional" arrow cutting at the beginning looks professional no joke😎 p.s. great video!
@hernerweisenberg7052
@hernerweisenberg7052 Жыл бұрын
You can actually catch an arrow moving that slow with your hands and plug it out of the air. My 60lbs recurve bow would throw an arrow so fast, it would travel that distance allmost instantly. Some of sheds more powerful warbows probably even more so. You can see he didn't even pull the string back half way to make it move that slow.
@FirstLast-wk3kc
@FirstLast-wk3kc Жыл бұрын
Dont beep the swearing use another sounds! KZbin hates beeping it even more than the swearing itself! This is ridiculous, but it was tested a lot of times
@ric270
@ric270 Жыл бұрын
That must be why some channels like donut operator uses duck noises to censor curses and gun shots
@bluecapgun785
@bluecapgun785 Жыл бұрын
This was awesome, id love to see more of this game
@skylerstevens8887
@skylerstevens8887 Жыл бұрын
I love these episodes of Shadbusters!!!
@sircrumpets_
@sircrumpets_ Жыл бұрын
I think the funniest thing about comparing different historical swords is the fact that they were not as common on the battlefield as people would think. In alot of cases, swords were more akin to an heirloom then a weapon of war. Spears and the like were far more common in large scale combat. Not to take away from the video, just a funny thought.
@honnorgaurd
@honnorgaurd Жыл бұрын
yup. thats because spears were cheeper, easier to make, had longer reach, and most importantly, required FAR less training and skill to be affective with in battle. That latter part is key because what alot of people dont understand is that statistics dont win battles or wars. its logistics. during medieval times, a fully professional trained army was VERY expensive. training was limited. alot of the time, levying farmers and peasants was a much more affective method to fill up ranks. or to quickly train up new soldiers to replace lost ones in the middle of a war. give them a long spear, a shield, then teach them how to shield wall and poke as one and BOOM, you have yourself a solid meat-grinding frontline to hold the enemy while the more elite forces cut down the enemy line or at least attempt to before their elite force tries to do the same. the spear was overall something any untrained person could use to defend themselves or fight others with less danger to themselves. Swords were of course part of their equipment, especially for proper professionally trained soldiers but usually was more or less the backup weapon you resorted to rather than the initiate engagement weapon.
@dalekmasterblaster585
@dalekmasterblaster585 Жыл бұрын
Don't know about you, but the guy in armor plating and holding a halberd covered in blood and has group of bodies behind him isn't going to be scared of the metal pointy stick.
@honnorgaurd
@honnorgaurd Жыл бұрын
@@dalekmasterblaster585 lmao, nope. he definitely wouldnt xD.
@lordcommissar7813
@lordcommissar7813 Жыл бұрын
@@dalekmasterblaster585 nope what he gears is another guy in armor with a big metal mace haha
@nobodyshome6792
@nobodyshome6792 Жыл бұрын
Spears > horses. Horses > swords Swords > spears Spears > horses. In medieval combat, spears were used more commonly because peasants had to deal with knights and other cavalry. Spears are very good for dealing with horses. Makes it easier to get to the guy on the horse. It also has the reach necessary to unmount a person from those horses. From what records and historical information I can find, about 1 out of every 3 males owned a sword.
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