$200 Muslady Bb/F Trombone Review

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[@kleb8329]

REVIEW AFTER A YEAR OF USE I played on this trombone for a year in high school. It takes a European shank mouthpiece, or a small bore mouthpiece wrapped in some tape! I hated the mouthpiece that came with it, I lost all of my high range, like above F. The valve section is very good. The biggest downsides I had was the slide lock snapped off and eventually the inside of the slide had the finish come off revealing the metal underneath, which resulted in very brown and gross spit. Overall decent, but you can probably get something better off eBay like I did for a similar price

[@azxtnt]

For the price point I’d probably say it’s better than used ones I’m eBay, I bought an f attachment trombone and it’s ok, but looks terrible and makes a weird buzzing sound like if you had some snares on in the room you were in

[@Metal-Possum]

"You can only just squeeze the tip in". Last time I tried that she slapped me.

[@amazinglyamazing6935]

Alex Paulsen what do you mean

[@evanlee1617]

You don’t need to know

[@rubondese_1256]

Alex Paulsen haha I get it

[@crarytrombone9672]

there is a reason it's called a mouthpiece.

[@PeteLamont]

And this is why low brass players are fun to go drinking with

[@a_literal_brick]

I got a pretty decent used Olds Ambassador for $150 in Bb/F

[@james_subosits]

But it's not new, which is the point of this.

[@jonathanraulston9488]

Cool video! Glad your back to uploading, hope u are doing well.

[@hayesman76]

A very objective and balanced review.

[@ccgeorgen]

Thank you for this review. I have yet to receive my purchase of this price point trombone. I am glad to learn I may be able to fit a different slide to the body.

[@abelmalaca9790]

Thanks ur inputs are very informative and useful

[@barbiebauer2392]

Thank you for the insight. Just bought a new Shillke bass with the Greenhoe valves. Love it. Best of the best.

[@silassherbundy4770]

Thank you this actually helped alot I was looking for a trombone and was thinking about this on but I found a better horn for a reasonable price so thank you

[@gnrunner]

What was it? I'm looking for a new trigger trombone to replace my old pea shooter.

[@benjaminreasor8902]

What trombone did you get?

[@htxflow]

What horn did you get foo!?

[@rainier2k_4]

The funny thing is that trombone is almost the same one I got from amazon that I used in my middle school years and I got first chair in honors band with it lol.

[@jaredjohns777]

-but 4th Chair is the real legend... 10/10 Not Biased

[@xfrostyresonance8614]

@@jaredjohns777 Bass trombone is the real, true legend.

[@raiku4460]

my friend bought a trigger trombone for 20 dollar in a garage sell....

[@MysteryManGaming]

What a goat

[@kevincortez2968]

I feel jelly

[@TromboneTrillo]

Does it work i got mine for 75$ and it’s in perfect condition so i wonder what 20$ got you

[@hdproductions5869]

@@TromboneTrillo where did you get your $75 trombone

[@phillipmotshabi4416]

Thank you for info. From South Africa

[@jonathancorbyn8203]

A review of the Oddysey Bb beginner trumpet would be a nice video. I have played one everyday pretty much for a year and it is still spot on. At £300 U.K Sterling it is not a bad instrument.

[@cumstarr]

Hey I'm a woodwind player interested in brass and your channel is awesome. Also 8th

[@cyborgjonny]

I hope tomtop does this and improved the instrument based on what you say. We might actually start getting good cheap instruments from them

[@HMCuber]

Its actually sounds good

[@danielakinoshita]

Could you find/review the cheapest bass trombone

[@mandelharvey3429]

Any model student horn slides fit? Enjoy the love you put into what we do.

[@reallytired27]

you know what would be great a beautiful bach trigger trombone that’s what i wish i had money for

[@fortepiano4491]

Make a triple slide trombone

[@nightlife9907]

Adolphe sax made one with 7

[@TrentHamilton]

How do you imagine that working? Three separate slides that you can use individually, or like the Bb contrabass trombone's slide with an extra loop?

[@fortepiano4491]

@@TrentHamilton I was talking more like the contrabass but now I wanna see that first one!

[@eeveetrnrlunick]

@@TrentHamilton yes

[@Invert_Scrub]

I've recently been gifted a "chinesium" trigger trombone. The valve linkage is super wobbly and I'm rubbish at maintenance. Its nearly unusable. Any ideas?

[@snipersnake777]

I actually bought the same exact model. The sound quality is fair IMO, not too bad, not good either.

[@lanaurban5730]

Do a review on the Yamaha Venova

[@809gf6]

Do you recommend getting this horn as a constant practice horn?

[@joschillaci9290]

Theoretically, could you use a European shank mouthpiece on this horn?

[@harrisonbrown7267]

I would think he could. It's just that European/Medium Shank is not that common outside...well, Central Europe. I had a V. F. Červený & Synové European style Euphonium with a Medium Shank mouthpiece receiver. It took me a while to find something that worked best for me. The real question is why in the world the makers decided on using a Medium Size Shank.

[@joschillaci9290]

Harrison Brown Makes sense. I've had an old secondhand Besson with a European shank as well, and I had quite a time with the same problem.

[@GordonHudson]

Denis Wick still make mouthpieces in thar fitting for old euphoniums.

[@supadupa6891]

@@harrisonbrown7267 after doing some research as i am considering this horn, schilke makes a European/medium shank mouthpiece in the 51, 51D and 52D. I assume those would work.

[@harrisonbrown7267]

@@supadupa6891 I haven't had the horn in years, but if it's medium shank it'll work. The biggest issue I had with the Cervany was that it had some tuning issues in some parts of the register.

[@brokenwrench1]

do you think you could review a chinese superbone combo valve/slide trombone like Maynard Ferguson played

[@creeve401]

Those are like $10000

[@brokenwrench1]

$499 free shipping

[@TrentHamilton]

Still way beyond my budget, unfortunately.

[@brokenwrench1]

@@TrentHamilton the reason i asked is there are some asian trombonists using these. with the key combos you get what 6 or 7 keys with the slide . besides MF playing the superbone made by holton don ellis played one also . you might ask the company that sent you this bflat F you just reviewed if thy build one of the superbone clones

[@TracksWithDax]

Shall we put together a fund for Trent's Superbone? 😏

[@TeagueTheJenkins]

I got a mendini trigger trombone for like 179 and honestly it isn't the worst trombone. Other than the fact that its smallbore. That's my only complaint

[@bobcat24]

TeagueTheJenkins It May be an intermediate trombone, which could explain the size and price.

[@bobcat24]

Maybe that taper at the end of the slide is actually just a taper in the metal thickness, instead of a taper of the internal bore. Is that possible? 🤷🏿‍♂️ Just a thought. I have no experience any experience with Chinese horns, so I don’t claim any expertise in that area.

[@GamerTime_2002]

Hey Trent, I don't have a peculiar instrument for you but I do have a rather old one. A conn 4h dated in the 1920s. I was wondering if you would like to do a review on something like that.

[@TrentHamilton]

Send me an email or a Facebook message with photos :)

[@angus5320]

Love dat icent

[@Leo-vr3bg]

I got a used conn 50H for the same price, much better quality for price, just needed to be restrung and a couple joints resoldered.

[@ricaard]

Do you have a list of trombone slides that will fit the bill, or at least specifications?

[@MrGarrettPearsonPhD]

Trigger works better than my Bach 42.

[@albirrukausalposo342]

Can I put my "no trigger" bass trombone slide to this valve section? Its interesting

[@hisaii]

The "valve section" is very reminiscent of a Conn trombone.

[@aliafizzhabalitaon9253]

Can you review Nasir Ali and Co. Instruments? 🙂

[@PillowPet5]

Many companies use this model to sell cheap instruments, as I was tricked by this as well. I have basically the same model

[@williealexander4513]

Is it bad doe??

[@williealexander4513]

Is it bad doe?? From 1-10?

[@snipersnake777]

Same here

[@PillowPet5]

@@williealexander4513 2

[@GordonHudson]

That's like old Boosey and Hawkes euphonium mouthpiece fitting.

[@supadupa6891]

I assume european/medium shanks as well. Schilke makes them for the 51, 51D and 52D mouthpieces.

[@richarddavy-smith6626]

A 20% reduction in the width of the tubing at the top of the slide gives a 36% reduction in the area for the air to go through. It’s worse than you think.

[@TrentHamilton]

No, it's not a 20% reduction in width, it's a 20% reduction in surface area.

[@mal2ksc]

So are there any cheap Chinese trombones with good slides and crappy bell sections? I could see this as a means to upgrade a usable but tiresome instrument and put the fun back in functional. Also, you may have enough stuff laying around from donor horns to make yourself an E slide for that trigger, or even make a dependent double out of it.

[@jshbbkns7896]

Somewhat off-topic, but do you think Jean Baptise makes good instruments?

[@tuba-bo3151]

Could one not use a reamer to widen the seat for the mouthpiece a bit. I had this done to one of my tubas, an old Triumphonic in Eb where only a basstrombone mouthpiece would fit earlier, and it worked out very well. The tapered end of the slide section could allso be shortened a bit to let the air pass easier! Let me and everyone else hear if you dare to try this!

[@supadupa6891]

Schilke makes European/medium shanks in the 51, 51D and 52D size mouthpieces. Those just might work.

[@gfjav2343]

So a 1 1/2 g bach mouth piece would not be good enough for this horn?

[@supadupa6891]

You might want to try Schilke 51, 51D and 52D sizes in a European/medium shank. You might want to check out the Kelly mouthpieces too. They have lexan, stainless steel and interchangeable stainless steel too in European/medium shanks. www.kellymouthpieces.com/kmeuphonium/index.asp

[@turnersugg]

What’s the intro music

[@pukalo]

Hi Trent, which type of bass trombone do you prefer, independent, or dependent valves?

[@a_literal_brick]

Why would anyone want dependent when they could have independent?

[@TrentHamilton]

I haven’t played a dependent trombone in years, but they’re apparently freer blowing and resonate easier.

[@pukalo]

@@a_literal_brick A trombonist in an old ensemble had a dependent bass trombone so that's why I was wondering.

[@ryanhilden1443]

@@pukalo I have an independent bass trombone and i don't mind the extra resistance especially in the lower register. Independent also allows for alternate positions which can be beneficial in some circumstances.

[@xLesPaulGibsonx]

Trent's preferred setup is the Hagmann valve arrangement. It's really as good as it gets with this style.

[@zacharygrimes9058]

Hey Trent you should try some of the products provided by gear4music they seem of good quality and they have a tenor trombone for $221 dollars maybe you can do a comparison one day Thank you I’d appreciate it.

[@hanj31]

they have a plastic trombone with an F attachment that might be even cheaper

[@Davidandrawes7]

“It is made with simply the finest of Chinesum!” That’s how you sell it.

[@pascaldijkhuizen6600]

What is the song that you were playing in the end?

[@sci8]

Schubert's Serenade

[@Xzyum00]

I'll probably get this as a second hand trombone.

[@phatdunny]

At least the trombone valve can articulate quickly . . . unlike some people

[@mandelharvey3429]

What slide fits it?

[@jhayjhaydelarosa7216]

After you review that trombone what are you do after. Did go in trash or donate what??

[@bendikvestrheim411]

Hey! Check out Jinbao Bb tuba!

[@izhaanahmed3038]

you made schubert sound beautiful on a cheap trombone! nice job!

[@Katisnotaneyeball]

I think I’ll just save up for a Mack Brass horn lol

[@timchandler9108]

What was that intro song that you played?

[@nightlife9907]

an old piece called Darude - Sandstorm

[@Boreasx]

Nightlife 9 lol

[@bloodymonkey]

Bluebells of Scotland.

[@Metal-Possum]

As for non-standard mouthpieces, perhaps speak to a machinist and get something made to help you mate a better mouthpiece into it.

[@supadupa6891]

Or try out the schilke european/medium shanks in the 51, 51D and 52D sizes

[@senior4790]

I seen so many of these types of trombones, i am wondering is this a bass trombone or a tenor trombone?

[@senior4790]

I actually have the exact same trombone of the video but its much larger and the trigger slide is also longer.

[@Juan_Bone09]

Is like a cheap chinese Made German style trombone

[@senior4790]

@@Juan_Bone09 I dunno but it’s really similar

[@tjblaze007]

What’s that intro song

[@McJays]

Bluebells of Scotland!

[@viscosity7893]

6:38 anyone know the piece?

[@jx5310]

Schubert's Serenade

[@willemvankooi6892]

Its a German model trombone middle large bore and a big bell typicall German!

[@randomaccessrob8464]

It's only $150 now

[@enriquethetrombonist1901]

Random Access Rob is this a bass trombone?

[@menhyr2835]

Don’t forget glory’s f trombone.

[@anthonymagera9996]

Blue bells of scottland wont work on that😂😂

[@wddgaming2576]

Who plays a f attachment trombone in band

[@Juan_Bone09]

Me (I have 2 straight tenors but i play one with a f attachment on a symphonic Band)

[@wddgaming2576]

@@Juan_Bone09 cool. I use my f attachment for everything. even jazz because my jazz horn doesnt work right sadly

[@Juan_Bone09]

@@wddgaming2576 :( that's sad What horns do You have? I play a chinese one, and a Conn Director (both small bore) And for My Band i play a Yamaha ysl 640 (medium bore with f attachment and small shank reciver) but is don't my instrument, is from My Band.

[@wddgaming2576]

@@Juan_Bone09 They're both yamahas ones the allegro with the f trigger

[@Juan_Bone09]

@@wddgaming2576 The other is a ysl 354? and what mouthpieces do You have , i have a Yamaha 48 , a Vincent Bach 6 1/2 Al and a 12c

[@gagehudson5907]

I found it for 58 dollars as of today lol

[@enriquethetrombonist1901]

Corruption Complete is it a bass trombone?

[@enriquethetrombonist1901]

Is he reviewing a bass trombone

[@supadupa6891]

No, just an F attachment tenor trombone

[@Juan_Bone09]

A German style trombone

[@zhiktang]

Third

[@jkekbe4336]

Fifth!

[@1pacop655]

Pin me pls

[@christophertsiliacos8958]

I wouldn't mind learning to play the trombone if it wasn't for the fact that it's a bass [F] clef instrument. But since I only read and play music in the treble [G] clef, I'll pass. Among my brass instruments, I shall remain with my Bb trumpet and flugelhorn. 😉 🎼 ♫ 🎺

[@TrentHamilton]

In the British style brass band the trombones read treble clef.

[@mal2ksc]

Get used to reading both clefs fluently. You're going to need it unless you have no plans to branch out beyond playing one or a handful of instruments in a wind band. If you want to compose, arrange, transcribe, or anything like that, you're going to run into bass clef a lot, tenor clef less, and alto clef only when dealing with the viola.

[@christophertsiliacos8958]

@@mal2ksc To my understanding the alto trombone also plays in the alto [C] clef. It's not just the viola. I have nothing against the other clefs. I have the upmost respect for those musicians who know more than one music language. BTW: I play a total of 21 instruments which all play in the treble [G] clef, to include wind, brass, and string instruments - which is plenty for me. That's why, for example, I play the violin, and neither the cello nor viola. I get in about four to five hours of practice a day, and it takes me a week to get through my entire repertoire of instruments. I have no desire "to compose, arrange, transcribe or anything like that..." I am not professional musician, and I play solely for my own enjoyment and for others. 😉 🎼 ♫ 🎸🎺 🎻 🎷 et al

[@christophertsiliacos8958]

@@TrentHamilton Hi Trent - I did not know that. I thought all trombones, with the exception of alto trombone, play in the bass clef. 👌👍

[@majcrash]

You could play the treble clef baritone part, if it needs to be covered in your band.

[@amazinglyamazing6935]

trent please stop buying chinese stuff!!!! lmao