2001: A Space Odyssey - What’s the Difference?

[@xBINARYGODx]

The movie was not based on the novel, it was based on the screenplay written by both Kubrick and Clarke, which Clarke then turned into a novel while Kubrick made the film.

[@Jeffrey314159]

BINARYGOD Really, I thought that it was based on a short novella called: The Sentinal, that was later expanded into Sentinel for Eternity ?

[@xBINARYGODx]

Jeffrey314159 Perhaps, but both of them working together on the script - which was apparently a nightmare for Clarke as Kubrick kept demanding rewrites and was generally not happy with how it was coming out (etc.). At some point, with the script technically not finished in either on their minds, they split and Clarke went off to write a novel based on the events of the script (changing or explaining anything however he wanted) and Kubrick left to do whatever he wanted based on that script.

[@WalterLiddy]

They never said it was.

[@Deadwarrior000]

Uhh they said exactly that the two collabed to make the screen play?

[@Vejur9000]

BINARYGOD just as the screenplay of 2010 was written by the author, and one of the gods of science fiction. His words and themes are epic and beautiful. One of my biggest influences as a writer.

[@totesjokin5354]

Glad you guys hit on Clarke’s HAL being far more tragic than Kubrick’s. Book HAL was less menacing, more like a panicked animal, terrified of death. And let’s not forget, “my god, ITS FULL OF STARS”!

[@barrybadrinath69]

having a loud, piercing alarming noise is really awful to be subjected to while wearing headphones...

[@charlietheanteater3918]

barrybadrinath69 I watched it on the way to Wisconsin. Full blast, on headphones. It was not a pleasant sound. The day prior I had gone to a WWII re-enactment. I can honestly say that the alarm sounds damaged my ears more than the Tanks and machine gun fire yesterday. Honestly I really didn’t like the film, I know that many enjoy it but I think it’s rather boring. I guess I’m just not patient.

[@VegaPhil]

No one forced you to wear headphones, your decision. They aren't good for your hearing in any situation

[@jaredloveless]

whoops!

[@gabrielfmm]

@@VegaPhil Weak argument.

[@PLaStiiCMoNtAGE]

@@VegaPhil are you uh fucking stupid?

[@vladsaioc6269]

The Monolith size is supposed to have the same ratio as a cinema screen from that era. That's Kubrick's significance.

[@davidgeisler9885]

So some theories go ... I’m not convinced

[@jacobandkatherinetucker9530]

I'm really enjoying this, "What's the Difference?" series.

[@CineFix]

Jacob Tucker Thanks Jacob!

[@juanpablomontoya9561]

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[@tianapitesr8553]

Except you can't do THOMAS HARRIS SILENCE OF THE LAMBS? #omg

[@bodieofci5418]

For a film made in the late 1960s, it looks contemporary and the movie does not age. Genius of Kubrick

[@ohmss069]

There were three other books written by Arthur C Clark: 2010, 2061, and 3001. 2010 was made into a film with Roy Scheider and 3001 is being made into a miniseries by SciFi channel.

[@DarthRushy]

It was ordered for broadcast in 2015... probably not happening then. There's been no news for a while.

[@bromodragone8405]

You mean SyFy

[@mariop8101]

@@bromodragone8405 SyFy is the current name, used to be the other one.

[@corkeryfilmz]

You guys should do A Clockwork Orange, Shutter Island, The Shawshank Redemption, The Godfather, Goodfellas (Wiseguy), Apocalypse Now (Heart of Darkness), The Lost World, The Maltese Falcon, and Full Metal Jacket (The Short Timers)

[@akashtandel9633]

They got the spirit :D

[@yaladoodle]

Yes

[@BanditIncorporated]

LOVE this videos, cant wait till the next one :D

[@KicksnCapesYT2]

BanditIncorporated OMG, Bandit on Cinefix. Its like Stan Lee making a cameo on DC movie

[@BanditIncorporated]

Captain Possible Im like a weed, I infest everything :D

[@KicksnCapesYT2]

BanditIncorporated Yeah you are. Waiting for your. SKYNET WILL WIN!!!

[@thomasbicknell175]

BanditIncorporated BANDIT!

[@CineFix]

BanditIncorporated oh man! thanks Bandit!

[@MrAppleby56]

The book actually came out initially a month after the film's release.

[@Jeffrey314159]

Ainsley Harriott It was based on a shorter work called: Sentenal For Eternity

[@alexaa126]

Ainsley Harriott cool but what's ur point?

[@alexgark]

I’m gonna leave this as 69 likes

[@TheFlamingDoh2]

8:45 spooked me. I was half asleep and I thought my smoke alarms were going off.

[@NAVEMAN3]

You should've done a warning when 'the sound' happened. Now I have a hearing aid.

[@simonrancourt7834]

In the book, Clarke gives the diameter and rotating speed of both the station and Discovery's centrifuge, saying they both generate a gravity equal to the Moon's. I had the formula for his in my physics textbook and you know what ? His numbers where RIGHT !

[@347Jimmy]

Don't forget the centrifugal toilet RIP to the brave souls who tested it

[@simonrancourt7834]

@@347Jimmy It was not on a centrifuge, it was zero G.

[@347Jimmy]

@@simonrancourt7834 the book explicitly described it as a carousel design, using centrifugal force to send materials in the desired direction

[@simonrancourt7834]

@@347Jimmy I'll have to read the book again

[@347Jimmy]

@@simonrancourt7834 I'm certain it's in there, along with a humorous nod to the testers Unless I'm being extremely imaginative in my memory of it

[@LWolf12]

Is a lot of differences between the two, pretty interesting to hear them all explained. I eagerly await part two.

[@FreakieFan]

My favorite film of all time, and in my opinion the best movie of all time! Such a genius masterpiece!

[@cortadew]

indeed

[@porsche911sbs]

the book is good too

[@thatlittlevoice6354]

🤷🏼‍♂️

[@chukmil9824]

Kubrick may have been one of the top 5 directors of all time ....he led us to places we have never gone before Dr Stainge Love are you kidding me? Even Loleta was remarkable and Full Metal Jacket I could only wish to be the film maker he was

[@hairypolack]

6:45.... I never thought about the watering hole analogies

[@nesirsitsir]

2:25 - 1 to 16 to 14??? Kubrick's monolith is a pseudo-massive 2 by 4. 1x16x14 would either look like a thick piece of paper laying on the ground or standing up vertically. Where did you get that statistic? MATH. Or maths for the Brits. Science. -Bone

[@Wimpie1515]

It is 1 : 4 : 9. The square root of 1, 2 and 3 - the first three whole numbers.

[@timbeaton5045]

Wimpie, Yes, that is pointed out in the novel, *and* in this video. The point being that the Monolith in the movie is NOT given that ratio of dimensions. But the point that James is making is that the ration described in this video, appears to be incorrect. And it is.

[@timbeaton5045]

Dorian Grey I am well aware of the dimensions of the monolith in the book. You obviously didn’t read my comment carefully enough.

[@hagerty1952]

Someone who measured the actual monolith prop said it is the same ratio as a Cinerama screen standing on edge. Supposedly an in-joke.

[@8_Bit]

I guess they meant 1:6:14 which seems close. The movie monolith definitely isn't 1:4:9 as what we see isn't deep enough.

[@codswallop321]

The zero gravity toilet is very much present in the novel. Clarke was fascinated with the practicalities of space travel...

[@realityrealtor7047]

"man I'm just here to see Floyd" Que the psychedelic visualizer

[@mookie_man_8031]

This didnt age well

[@wilhelmsceam6969]

My favorite film of all time. Very surprised to see this in my subscription box!

[@ultron1809]

Dat name tho

[@wilhelmsceam6969]

jawed thanks!

[@mundoinvisivelxd1936]

Wilhelm Sceam sceam ?

[@wilhelmsceam6969]

Ckyntosh​ couldn't think of anything creative to do so I just changed scream to sceam.

[@mephistozygote6623]

Love the video: while its a bit of an eclectic choice, personally i'd love to see a comparison of "Stalker" (1979) and the book "Roadside Picnic"...

[@WalterLiddy]

Most of these videos are pretty good. I don't know why this one has SO much obnoxious 'humour' thrown in, but it's unwatchable.

[@frankm5150]

its like it was made for 6 year olds. I am bailing after just 2 mins

[@TikiToyLabs]

yup.... its like a morning zoo radio show. uggg

[@juliocamacho8354]

gotta make it h"hip"/"lit"

[@rexmundi3108]

Yeah, I thought the same thing. These guys tend to do that with movies they don't like and certain genres in particular.

[@dreamlandbuds7710]

Yeah, I don't get the random 9/11 mention thrown in either. Seemed super tasteless.

[@MajinMaster97]

Jesus, you have a genuinely good video buried in overused and hamfisted jokes, all of which broke up your flow. This seems to be a pretty common thread in your videos, but you're genuinely good at making informative material in a tone that is already laid back. The poor jokes don't help you here.

[@Sunlight70]

Spot-on - nowhere near as good as CineFix's usual videos.

[@q45ij54q]

I got two and a half minutes in and couldn't take anymore.

[@ReaLifeHDchannel]

9:31 A spork! And even computers have ego. 10:07 *Ahem* Neil deGrasse Tyson 10:15 Can we get a loop of that?

[@kevind814]

You should put "Part 1" in the title

[@thomassperry3202]

For an interesting read, get the book "Lost Worlds of 2001." Clarke collected exerpts from original movie ideas and published them!

[@rogermwilcox]

8:40 ... the TMA-1 monolith on the moon didn't emit SOUND per se (it was in vacuum, after all), it emitted a powerful radio signal. The astronauts heard it because it was on a wide enough frequency band to be picked up by their helmet radioes. Significantly, the radio beam was aimed *at Saturn* in the novel, which was the real reason why Discovery One's flight plan was altered to go to Saturn instead of Jupiter.

[@Thespeedrap]

please do A Clockwork Orange next I'm begging you guys

[@tupactip]

Basicly same with an extra last chapter read the last chapter and u know most difference between the two. Note best without last chapter anyway.

[@bailieboo6502]

+tupactip There are quite a few subtle differences laced between the two. Like how he kills the woman with a bust of Beethoven instead of a dick sculpture. Dim chained his eyes instead of smashing milk in his face. No "Singing in the Rain" etc.

[@ghostofdeath260]

Yes do it! It's my favorite book and movie ever

[@savagehenry6382]

They did it already

[@MrDuck797]

Savage Henry you realize this was before it was even made dumbass

[@Regal99]

You guys ever cover 2010?

[@joeomalley2835]

Both film and book are phenomenal, in my opinion, despite differences.

[@joeyrosenbaum6893]

Fun fact they were being worked on at the same time. Same exact time. According to the preface of the book it was a unique experience able to trg things out he wanted to write on the set

[@timmylovesguitar]

Trigun is amazing. Please do it for the next one

[@adinocc2042]

@10:27 It's nice to see that they included an ATM for the crew of Discovery, just in case they needed to do a grocery run!

[@heisenberg8103]

Are we not gonna talk about how glorious that scene where moonwatcher discovers tools is??

[@dakotafre1913]

The Godfather- What's the Difference?

[@MINDPLUNK]

My favorite episode so far. Can't wait for part 2 :)

[@EndOfSmallSanctuary97]

I saw that there wouldn't be time in the video for the rest of the movie and I got worried, but of course I'm now excited to see part two. 2001 is one of my favourite movies and it's always great when someone on KZbin talks about it.

[@ChristoTitan]

2:59 Man, wish a could've been there.

[@PaschanTOPs]

The ape killing the leopard is an impossible feat. Kubrik made it more believeable with the rival clan.

[@KicksnCapesYT2]

Best video of the week, nominees: Cinefix, what's the difference (2001) How it should have ended, Avengers AOU part 2 Mr Sunday Movies, Jurassic World easter eggs Rob Dyke, top 10 kidnappings

[@raggledaggle721]

Why doesn't anyone produce a movie based on historical materialism? To show us the unfolding of human history through the progressive stages of development and alterations human society went through, and in which human beings changed themselves becoming closer in the realization of their full human potential. It could be so epic and meaningful.

[@Jeffrey314159]

7:10 The use of liquid and paste food in the movie reflects and early belief by space scientists that the human body could not digest solid food in space.

[@j0hannes5]

Nice job on the background music!

[@j0hannes5]

Could you tell me the song at 7:00?

[@caseyredmon5813]

Hurty18 That would be a remixed version of Cozi Bella that we found on Jingle Punks. Happy you liked it!

[@Carnage28341]

5:30 Unicron

[@Otokichi786]

Cinefix: Come back in two weeks for part two! HAL: I can't do that, guys.

[@shaun906]

I watched the movie then read the book afterwards. it amazed me how much detail was missed out, but understandably I think. I really enjoyed the apes thoughts, extra detail from the monolith. changing to Jupiter really mucked up the series of books?

[@fronkykoko]

Could have sworn the zero gravity toilet instructions are described in full in the novel, it's one of the most memorable differences...

[@MagicalMsGar]

The book totally covered the zero G toilets too, with the guy "rereading it several times to make sure nothing had changed" haha

[@hawkthehunter]

Awesome work. Keep it up guys!

[@jamescarrington6504]

I hope you guys did, just as good of a Job on Part 2. I love your narrations and explanation of the book, I love this movie:-) Thank you

[@VladiSSius]

What's the music name @ 7:55? THanks

[@TheJigsaw298]

VladiSSius I scrolled through the comments for a bit with the same question. Hoping that someone would've answered it.

[@priestwilliamson2135]

8:46 deemed that I was dislike # 482!! Good video though, and I’m a new sub.

[@BS-vx8dg]

It wasn't just in the novel that the first sunlight on the monolith causes the sound; that's what happened in the movie as well.

[@dandelionjones3269]

I hope you guys do A Clockwork Orange one of these days. The book is a bit of a difficult read, but it's definitely worth it.

[@jimpiunti]

As a fan of both the movie and the novel, I had always wondered why Kubrick changed the planet destination from Saturn to Jupiter, when Saturn was so instrumental a choice in the book. Now I find out that it was simply an inability to render Saturn's rings properly for the movie. But the significance of Saturn in the book was profound. In order to know where the signal coming from TMA1 was directed, the book used an anomaly of one of Saturn's moons. The moon Japetus is visually six times brighter on one side of its orbit than the other. Clark made the point that this was like a 'blinking beacon' to those who would eventually understand it, that this place was special.

[@xystem4701]

The monolith is definitely not 1:16:14 in the movie, the width and height are nowhere near that close. It's at least twice as tall as it is wide, probably much more.

[@8_Bit]

I think they meant 1:6:14 which seems close-ish.

[@SHLVideos]

BRING ON PART II!!!

[@Paul_Waller]

HAL 9000 "Look Dave, I can see you're really upset about this. I honestly think you ought to sit down calmly, take a stress pill, and think things over".

[@thomas1910]

I really enjoyed that! You guys should think of doing Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep/ Blade Runner. One novel I read following the movie because I liked it so much. There's plenty of difrences

[@scorpiosteele1230]

The film is not an adaptation of a novel. Yes, the story incorporated ideas from Clarke's short story "The Sentinel" and "Encounter in the Dawn", but the novel and book were written concurrently. Clarke adjusted his novel based on footage that was filmed. Yes, there are differences between novel and film, but as Clarke says in his author's note to 2010, "[B]oth projects proceeded simultaneously, with feedback in each direction. Thus I often had the strange experience of revising the manuscript AFTER viewing rushes based upon an earlier version of the story."

[@alonsorojas3829]

Thanks. Waiting for part 2.

[@animequest7612]

I know the adaptation is a video game but you guys should do Metro 2033. That would be a kickass What's the Difference.

[@gaelmist22]

Okay, I'm over here on your most recent ep! ;) LOL! Not a Kubrick fan by a long shot, but this movie definitely set the visual bar for the SciFi genre! This, 'Jurassic Park', 'Terminator 2', 'LOTR' trilogy (not 'The Hobbit' trilogy) and 'Evil Dead [2013]' are like Exhibit A on why SFX should be largely practical! CGI should be used sparingly, adding to SFX and cleaning them up instead of replacing them! BTW, I also never knew this was a collaborative effort!

[@FerGalicia]

I've heard many decades ago that originally HAL was just one letter after IBM to because it was better and 9000 just sounded cool.

[@FerGalicia]

I didn't even clicked "read more" dude bite me.

[@antoniopena4220]

So happy you guys are doing a part 2 you know what we want ^_^ could you guys do a clockwork orange too sometime?

[@zardox78]

1:43 No. Moonwatcher was not the only member of his group who could walk upright. I know the specific line that made you believe that's what you were being told... and you got the context wrong. Clarke was speaking in general terms of Moonwatcher's breed of man-ape (as a _very_ brief aside while he's carrying his father's body off to discard), not Moonwatcher himself. While he is the alpha male of his group, he doesn't have any special traits that make him physically distinct from the others.

[@Maxyshadow]

Great vid!

[@steadyjumper3547]

Kubrick did this. ding* basically Kubrick

[@drewske1984]

I love your channel! Here are some titles that you might consider in doing for your differences on the book to movie section. Shawshank Redemption, 1408, The Amityville Horror, The DaVinci Code, Angels & Demons, October Sky (Rocket Boys), TMNT first live action film with original comic, Black Hawk Down, The Exorcist.

[@Lewis5020]

I love the book and movie, too, which is why I must point out the moon base is named "Clavius Base" not "Claudius".

[@ugowar]

Checked the comments for the exact same thing. Was not disappointed.

[@MrGlenbw]

2:01 - Errrr.... I think it's best to just leave that to your imagination.

[@moviestigma7792]

YAY, PART 2. Cant wait.

[@347Jimmy]

There was a whole section in the novel about the zero gravity toilet But you're correct that it didn't include the instructions

[@ultron1809]

Hell yeah, I love you guys and do Blade Runner

[@JamesPawson]

jawed There are just way, way too many differences between Blade Runner and Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep.

[@paulbeardsley4095]

@@JamesPawson Yeah, it would be more about the similarities - although that could work!

[@Davidlee37101]

the dimensions of the monolith sans thickness are that of the wide screen in the theaters of the day, the music at the very beginning is the same as on the moon and jupiter when the monolith is presented so when you see a black screen and the music is playing you are gazing into the monolith.

[@laurenjcoates]

I can’t think of many examples were the movie is this much better than the book

[@johndawhale3197]

Movies are better than books imo, apart from the Bible...that's a pretty cool book.

[@MaoRuiqi]

Just found you guys surfing. Well done! 1 more subscriber!

[@KohlDayvhis]

People act like you either love or hate this film but the truth is you can do both. On my first viewing I thought this film sucked, I didn't even finish it because I got so bored, then after doing a little research I watched it again and started to slowly see what made it so good. Now I quite enjoy this film.

[@LN.2233]

Ay can you do Berserk, Battle Angel Alita and Ghost in the Shell?

[@JonnyJoestar_]

Ghost in the Shell wouldn't work since each series is standalone/separate timeline.

[@LN.2233]

JustCallMe Jonny movie and manga

[@applebloom2207]

LN2233 I love to see a berserk What’s the Difference? but the manga is better.

[@tatehildyard5332]

LN2233 Maybe they'll do it for the live action version of Ghost in Shell that's in the works. Sorry guys but it's happening whether anyone wants it or not.

[@blackwaltz463]

apple bloom I only watch the begining of Berserk's anime (but read the manga) but I think the only big difference is that the initial years of Guts history because of the rape and he meets the elf much later

[@PrivateAckbar]

The irony of this film and book is that our rationality developed out of cooperation, division and combined labour, and exchange. Not violence.

[@johnyzero2000]

They need to do a What's The Difference with Breakfast at Tiffany's because the book is drastically different from the movie.

[@reyessarmiento3431]

You guys should do 'a clockwork orange' and 'the Bourne identity'

[@EazyDuz18]

Theres an actor in this movie who looks exactly like Ben Stiller

[@jmcenanly1]

It is also telling that at 6:49, even with windows ringing the craft, the stewardesses choose to watch television, rather than look out at the universe

[@Jeffrey314159]

James Mcenanly That's because they've seen it before on previous flights.

[@jamiebarney8003]

I know this is considered one of the greatest movies of all time but I was just so bored by it. The cinematography is fucking amazing don't get my wrong I loved every single shot in the movie its one of the best looking films I've ever seen. I liked the concept of the story but the way it was told was so uninteresting and took way to long to play out. I see what others like about it but I could never consider it a masterpiece, a visual one sure but as an overall movie it didn't live up to my expectation. Wondering if anyone feels the same?

[@mr.clippy7815]

Jamie Barney Yeah 58min into the film and it still feels like is the introduction of the film.and i fucking hate how stanley just keeps on repeting the same song over and over again,he did on a clockwork orange and on this one to.

[@camm4000]

I hated the really overly long scenes of just creepy music.

[@antihinduismisbased]

Jamie Barney yep. You are clearly the only one. But I don't blame you. Some people just don't understand a masterpiece when they see one. No harm, no foul.

[@GeorgeMillerUSA]

Can’t say I disagree. The movie was a lot better with Pink Floyd’s Echoes playing in the final section. It was so moving.

[@brendanmccabe8373]

Actually they changed the destination from Saturn to Jupiter because in the novel they use Jupiter’s gravitational pull as a slingshot and Kubrick thought that it was too complicated

[@kpiniak]

Actually, they changed it from Saturn to Jupiter because they couldn't get the special effects for the rings to work. A couple years later, Doug Trumball, one of the special effects guys on 2001, figured out how to do it for his movie "Silent Running."

[@black_knight1]

CineFix What's the difference between 2001: A Space Odyssey and Interstellar?

[@3000marco1]

What a coincidence, I too can read!

[@Macqumc01]

The stories are completely different. If I'm wrong then please point out how similar they are.

[@narutoman876]

Earl Talk One has real depth, one has IMAX 3D depth

[@j.kwiatkowski6682]

One spells everything out for you like you're 5 and ham fists a schlocky message, while the other is a grand masterpiece with unending depth and meaning.

[@MikeMartGames]

Earl Talk The robot in 2001 was a homicidal maniac whilst the robot in Interstellar was just Sarcastic.

[@휘동이-c8r]

7:12 It's already coming out for reading the instruction.

[@likeits1985]

Beavis: Hehe hehe....he said 'seminal' Butthead: Yeah....hehe....cool

[@Paul-zs7rd]

He also says, "You're a long way from home, Rigsby"

[@DitchBankBandits]

The movie and the book together prove the theory that the monolith is a movie/tv screen.

[@stephenfestus9268]

Clavius was a 16th century German mathematician and astronomer, after which the crater was named, Claudius was a Roman emperor. I'm not sure that they named anything after him.

[@nostop3005]

That's a weirdly specific mention in the book, that 1/3 of the world is Chinese.

[@urdnal]

The satellite at 4:56 *is* the nuclear weapons platform! You just can't tell lol. Also, if anyone hasn't seen the movie, read the book first; it's pretty good, not too long and make the movie more enjoyable. People complain about not knowing what's going on; book first and you'll have no issues like that.

[@Incvios]

Oh cinfix I love your channel

[@SNO3R]

how nice to not warn us for a sharp alarming noice

[@jamesdrynan]

Kubrick's astonishing visuals have a mesmerizing impact. Although reading is swiftly atrophying, a book allows the imagination of the reader full rein. Any movie is a director's perspective on the story. I read 2010 by Clarke five times before seeing Hyam's take on it.

[@davecrupel2817]

3:37 is that not supposed to be the first ever use of a tool?

[@bluered1322]

The toilet instructions weren't absent from the novel though. It was pretty clearly explained. He went in eager to see if it changed since the last time he traveled to the moon. If I remember right