2003 VW GOLF how long will it IDLE? OR Blow up first? The Idle experiment. (ONE FULL TANK DIESEL)

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This is a very important scientific test to show the importance of not leaving a vehicle at idle for long periods.
I will publish the winners on Monday on our Facebook page, thank you all for making a guess and happy Christmas.

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@nathanielc6286
@nathanielc6286 9 ай бұрын
I know these engines consume around 0.6 litres per hour at idle. So I worked it out to be around 90 hours. But she did better than I thought.
@rkan2
@rkan2 9 ай бұрын
I was thinking it had a 50ltr tank and there would be some error on the gauge which do report 0.6-0.8/h usually So I would've guessed 62,5 hours :D I guess I shall stop shutting engine down while idling lol.
@philherb3843
@philherb3843 9 ай бұрын
@@rkan2 He put everything drawing power like the cabin fan, lights and so on, off. So the consumption is more to be 0,5-0,6 Liters pers hour. If I remember correct, these Golfs had a 55 Liter fuel tank that could be fueled up to about 58 Liters when pushing the vent pin with the nozzle while refueling. So about 100 hours is realistic. And it was nearly perfectly that. I have driven a Octavia of the same generation and had a bet to run 1500 km on a tank. I did 1550 km with all the tricks, with a consumption of 3,7 L/100km. But after running dry, I would never push the high pressure pump (belt driven) so long without diesel in it, which is also the pumps lubricant. Just turn the key, let the primer pump run (turns off after 10 seconds) turn off and on again for 30 seconds. After that, it will start in less than 5 seconds.
@velhonen
@velhonen 9 ай бұрын
Calling a car "she" is the most corniest and retarded thing I've ever read.
@amedematteo6636
@amedematteo6636 9 ай бұрын
Less, less... that's my '07 3.0 V6 TDI consumption at idle.
@dom3827
@dom3827 8 ай бұрын
0.6 is actually much for a Diesel My gasoline idles with 0.5 L/h
@mas3507
@mas3507 9 ай бұрын
Hint for next time: you don't need to damage your starter by trying to start that long after running out of fuel, when you turn on and off the ignition before activating the starter. Every time you do this, you hear a splashing noise from the fuel pump. After a few times, this noise will stop. When you use the starter then, it will almost instantly start up. Much better for starter, battery and unit injectors, because then they don't run dry for so long. I drive my Golf PD TDI since more than 23 years now. First generation AJM Engine with 85 kW, Chiptuning since 23 years already, 103 kW, 350 Nm. Never any problem with drive train. Never needed to fix anythin in engine, first starter, first turbo, first alternator, even the muffler is still first one. With warm weather I can drive it with 3.5 l/100km at 90 km/h, although I have 19" wheels. When you press the ventilation button, you can fill another 10 l into the tank, so that you have 65 l of diesel. This way I was doing more than 1600 km with one tank of fuel several times already.
@TheWarjunkie666
@TheWarjunkie666 8 ай бұрын
As a Canadian... Your comment about original muffler felt like a personal attack... lol In Canada you're lucky to get 5-6 years out of a OEM muffler. After markets usually like 3 years. Usually the pipe is what rots out first here.
@mas3507
@mas3507 8 ай бұрын
@@TheWarjunkie666 There are different quality grades, which have different lifetime, even from VW themselves for the same part number. From my first car, I also knew what you described: after market mufflers rotten after 3 years. And I have to admit: from the clamp that connected the middle pipe to the end muffler fell to dust. But that was easy and cheap to replace.
@matthewmorgan582
@matthewmorgan582 8 ай бұрын
Yeah, some diesels can't self-prime though.
@MCLIcpfan000
@MCLIcpfan000 8 ай бұрын
Yeah this doesn’t have a fuel pump. Have one and had to prime it and it is a pain to do.
@emilmoe92
@emilmoe92 7 ай бұрын
​@@MCLIcpfan000But you don't have this engine. This is an engine with common rail and they need a fuel pump in the tank, so that is not true
@unusualstuff
@unusualstuff 9 ай бұрын
Back in the day when fuel was cheap and before we were concerned about the environment it was common in countries with a cold climate to leave diesel vehicles like taxis, buses, trucks and locomotives running 24/7 in the winter, the reason being they were often hard to start in the cold, took a long time to warm up and the cold start puts a lot of wear on the engine. Not to mention that your vehicle was always ready for use with ice free windows, batteries fully charged and (for heavy vehicles) air in the brake reservoir. The idling capability were even considered one of the big advantages on a (older) diesel engine over a petrol engine. They could often be kept idling indefinitely without any particular bad effects and with a minimal fuel consumption. The other big advantages were of course the overall low fuel consumption, the reliability and the simple service requirements the old ones with mechanical fuel injection had. A couple of oil/filter changes, a fuel filter and an air filter each year, timing belt (if any) and maybe a water pump every 100-150.000 kilometers, that was about it for most of them. The big drawback: Lower power output than a petrol engine of comparable displacement, but the diesels higher torque partially made up for it.
@fodaogamer1
@fodaogamer1 9 ай бұрын
interesting fact, i own an honda fit, 1.3 L, it idles at 650 rpm, consumption 0,58 L/H. I found it great because other petrol cara idle at 800+ RPM, this brings wear to the engine earlier
@espenberg8773
@espenberg8773 9 ай бұрын
@@fodaogamer1 is it the 1.3l i-dsi engine u have? my 8th gen civic with 1.3l i-dsi idles at 900-1100rpm and drinks a lot of fuel on idle
@Santelssi
@Santelssi 9 ай бұрын
Diesel engines does not have any better torque than petrol. 2 same size engines without turbo and there is no difference. Actually petrol might even have more torque because it has more hp and torque comes from low rpm hp. But people still think diesel has more torque because they have more displacement or turbo or both. Vw golf mk2 1.6d has less torque than vw golf mk2 1.6 petrol
@hezza1354
@hezza1354 9 ай бұрын
⁠​⁠​⁠@@Santelssithat’s wrong, more often than not a diesel be it turbo’d or non turbo’d will have more torque than a petrol for the same displacement however less horsepower. For eg E60 bmw 535d 3.0L has 560nm torque but like 268hp compared to M5 with 5.0L v10 petrol engine that has 520nm torque but 500hp. Diesels are notorious for their torque that’s why they are used in lorries & truck and larger vehicles where lots of torque is needed to pull weight.
@mitchell5064
@mitchell5064 9 ай бұрын
@@fodaogamer1RPM doesn’t directly correlate with engine wear, lower RPM can actually cause more wear, for example a 5.7 hemi
@allseeing357
@allseeing357 9 ай бұрын
These PD motors are brilliant things, tons of performance and efficient pretty much however driven. Looked after right (i.e regular oil changes and the right oil at that) they will just go on forever. Had an Ibiza 130 PD Sport some years ago and it was just hilarious!
@someguy9520
@someguy9520 9 ай бұрын
We have a 1.9SDI in our Skoda Fabia from 2004. 64hp and 125nm Its the slowest shitbox we ever had. But damn its surprisingly fun in the corners and we never got it to take more than 5.5L/100km Regularly 4.5-5L/100km
@simplexicated
@simplexicated 9 ай бұрын
​@@someguy9520is the SDI the one without turbo? 😅
@someguy9520
@someguy9520 9 ай бұрын
@simplexicated yup. Thats one of the rare cases of a naturally aspirated diesel engines in a passenger car
@notmenotme614
@notmenotme614 9 ай бұрын
I remember back then, the 150 PD diesels were faster than the petrols.
@AnIdiotAboard_
@AnIdiotAboard_ 9 ай бұрын
Got a PD140 pushing 300,000 miles a PD 170 at 220,000 Miles And a mapped and Modified PD140 with 195,000 miles on the clock. You aint wrong when you say they go one forevery. Just keeping throwing oil and filters at it,
@steve5772
@steve5772 9 ай бұрын
I used my 1.9SDI Caddy as a generator for a couple of days. Literally no issues at all. The fuel guage was still on the top mark after.
@pharmazynouni6897
@pharmazynouni6897 9 ай бұрын
How many KWh did you get out of?
@steve5772
@steve5772 9 ай бұрын
@@pharmazynouni6897 not sure, it was running a little 300w invertor, but the actual load would have been a fair bit less.
@keine_ahnung_wie_der_heisst
@keine_ahnung_wie_der_heisst 9 ай бұрын
i mean kinda expectable, that like 0.4hp @@steve5772
@skino666
@skino666 9 ай бұрын
How do you do that?
@NBSV1
@NBSV1 9 ай бұрын
@@skino666By using a power inverter that takes the 12v DC and turns it into AC voltage for household stuff. Not the most efficient way to do it, but does work and doesn’t require having a specific generator.
@scotty6346
@scotty6346 9 ай бұрын
Those early VAG PD's were pretty bombproof 👍
@bobgorman9481
@bobgorman9481 9 ай бұрын
Until they put DPF s on them!
@Kalashnikov47247
@Kalashnikov47247 9 ай бұрын
⁠@@bobgorman9481 the biggest problem is the EGR, some of them have just a cat like the AXR
@MrBird95
@MrBird95 7 ай бұрын
I love my MK4 AXR 🥰
@dumymariposa6795
@dumymariposa6795 9 ай бұрын
On the plus side, the battery is fully charged! And good thing that starter didn't catch on fire!
@demonhighwayman9403
@demonhighwayman9403 9 ай бұрын
I remember back in the 80's we had a severe winter and people were stuck in huge traffic jams and of course kept their cars running to keep them warm. It was reported on the news multiple engines had blown up and they advised people not to leave their cars idling. So certainly back in those days not all engines could be kept running constantly like that !
@henrik1743
@henrik1743 9 ай бұрын
Probably just Wrong oil for winter honestly..
@rkan2
@rkan2 9 ай бұрын
@@henrik1743 Well thevoil shouldn't matter much since the engines are running and therefore warm. Even many fairly modern engines have problems with lubrication on idle though, so that's probably why... Just not enough oil preasure.
@erebostd
@erebostd 9 ай бұрын
Friend of mine had the same situation last winter, they couldn’t move for 2 days because of snow and an accident. His wife was totally frightened because his car is electric. They lost around 45% of battery in the two days, because they had the heat on high, heated seats and infotainment for the kids. Now she always prefers his car in the winter 😁.
@Chris-hw4mq
@Chris-hw4mq 9 ай бұрын
@@erebostd what a bunch of morons, stuck in snow and use infotainment and high heat ?
@csutakgergo5279
@csutakgergo5279 9 ай бұрын
​@@erebostdi guess you have forgot how li-ion batteries work? I mean under 0degrees C, you will have around 60% full capacity. So if your story would be true, that would mean from 50% battery theyve heated their car for 48 hours in subzero conditions. Did you write the bible mate? My friends, turn off the heat many times, because it drains the HV battery too quick. Also im pretty sure they didnt have a full battery to start with. Im guessing you have not seen the highways in -5-10degrees conditions, where every 20-50ms there is a dead EV left on the road :) next time try to come up with something more realistic mate.
@Phantom-mk4kp
@Phantom-mk4kp 9 ай бұрын
Well at least the battery was well charged
@bobl78
@bobl78 9 ай бұрын
the smoke during the test might have come from the turbo.. they tend to leak a little oil when the exhaust / bosst pressure is low.. the type of seals used use the pressure to keep the oil inside...nothing critical
@rkan2
@rkan2 9 ай бұрын
Yes, very common, not a big problem until the turbo doesn't have enough lube..
@simonwall23
@simonwall23 9 ай бұрын
Great video. It shows how useless stop/start systems are.
@HamRadio200
@HamRadio200 9 ай бұрын
that is a great point. all S/S systems are good for is revenue for the battery and starter manufacturers. Absolute trash of a system. I mean really.... how many people are worried about saving a teaspoonful of fuel that may be consumed at a stoplight or drive through?
@iambenmitchell
@iambenmitchell 9 ай бұрын
@@HamRadio200 Start Stop really isn't about saving fuel on an individual basis, it's about emissions. I've just come back from the US and over there they have traffic lights every 20 seconds and you typically end up stopped at them for 2 minutes or so. They need more roundabouts. But anyway, my point is it is about scale. Imagine the emissions coming from 40 or 50 cars sat waiting at traffic lights for 2 minutes. Doesn't seem like much when you only think about yourself, but when you scale it up to reality in cities.. the two minutes of having your engine shut off makes a huge difference. Isn't that useful here in the UK because I can drive for ages without needing to stop for more than a couple seconds at a roundabout, but I don't live in a city with thousands of cars waiting at intersections and roundabouts or in standstill traffic.
@utfigyii5987
@utfigyii5987 8 ай бұрын
@@iambenmitchell then those minutes turn into hours, the hours turn into days and yeah. thats a lot.
@DigBipper188
@DigBipper188 9 ай бұрын
Testament to how well an engine will run *if you don't have a particulate filter to clog!* bet doing this on a Euro 5 or 6 compliant PD would be clogged in about 24-36 hours lmao
@bmwenthusiast96
@bmwenthusiast96 9 ай бұрын
Yeah the DPF and EGR are the worst things done to diesel engines. Horrifying that they call them more environmental friendly when all there will be is an engine that doesn’t even reach half of the lifetime of such an older engine
@camillosteuss
@camillosteuss 9 ай бұрын
@@bmwenthusiast96 But for anyone worthy of a car, they aren`t all that hard to service and maintain... DPF can easily be washed out and have its soot and salts dissolved and the egr and the intake manifold can be relatively easily cleaned, and if you care about the car, you should check the engine every 100k km anyways... It can be a bitch to do so on some cars, but a weekend of passionate work will sort it all out...
@bmwenthusiast96
@bmwenthusiast96 8 ай бұрын
@@camillosteuss that’s right. Did it to all my cars until now. Lately my BMW 320 Diesel with N47 had its cleaning process done.
@collyoung6017
@collyoung6017 9 ай бұрын
Many years ago I worked in forestry and went on my Christmas holidays forgetting to switch off a Unimog which I had topped up with 120L of diesel - 10 days later I topped it up again with 85L
@ATomRileyA
@ATomRileyA 9 ай бұрын
haha that is pretty hilarious
@rkan2
@rkan2 9 ай бұрын
240L tank?
@flintsthirsk
@flintsthirsk 9 ай бұрын
Unimog !!!!!!!❤
@sven-erikviira1872
@sven-erikviira1872 9 ай бұрын
In august found a neglected mk4 Golf with good body and 430kkm on the clock (AGR engine). Cold engine started from half a turn and no lifter tick. Did a roadtrip in another AGR Golf, 2200km with average 4.3L/100km.
@sporkeh90
@sporkeh90 9 ай бұрын
Still not sure why this channel does not even have 100k subs, the petrolhead or well dieselhead content on here is brilliant. Enjoy the holidays mate!
@samteks125
@samteks125 9 ай бұрын
Cause it's awful
@aleksadjuric112
@aleksadjuric112 9 ай бұрын
Good content but he is super annoying,
@sporkeh90
@sporkeh90 9 ай бұрын
@@aleksadjuric112 Why? I like him
@JordanSparkes
@JordanSparkes 8 ай бұрын
@@sporkeh90 the hard cuts every 1 or 2 seconds really ruins it for me -- it's way too energetic.
@TheBlaert
@TheBlaert 9 ай бұрын
I have a Passat 130 estate which I had parked up at the side of the shed. Almost full tank of diesel. Started it last winter to keep the battery topped up and kinda forgot about it til 4 days later...
@energymc22
@energymc22 Ай бұрын
Didn't the grag grag noise keep you awake through the night? 😂
@TheBlaert
@TheBlaert Ай бұрын
@@energymc22 my shed is quite a distance away from my house so no. It was bad weather too so i was indoors quite a lot
@rachids3030
@rachids3030 9 ай бұрын
These pd's have a high status of performance potential and reliablity. Sad that you don't work on Bosch VE VP pumps. Atracts a lot of customers.
@Dan23_7
@Dan23_7 9 ай бұрын
The PD doesn’t have the VE pump, the ALH does which was pre PD. The PD has a “tandem pump” on the head which pulls fuel through to the injectors and they do the high pressure pumping into the cylinders. There’s a lift pump in the tank too but the can run without that working, my beetle did just fine. I since replaced the lift pump just in case I ran out of fuel.
@rachids3030
@rachids3030 9 ай бұрын
VE pump is for indirect injection diesels @@Dan23_7 VW group volvo peugeot in the 80s 90s used these pumps. There is no supplier here near europe who modifies these older pumps. Only Gilles but he is in canada. It's too far and expensive shipping. I have a mark 2 Golf GTD. I always wanted a 11mm pump. But with no one here that understands how that pump works. You can't just give it to some mechanic around the corner and swap the elements to 11mm.
@rkan2
@rkan2 9 ай бұрын
@@Dan23_7 AHU, AGR, ALH, 1Z are the 1.9s with the less complicated or more traditional head with Bosch VE.
@hariranormal5584
@hariranormal5584 9 ай бұрын
VE? VP? Wut, ELI5
@pug2052
@pug2052 9 ай бұрын
@@rkan2asv too probably the best of the old type engine
@tonyt.5316
@tonyt.5316 9 ай бұрын
I have owned my MK4 TDI since new in 2001 and 430kms later. I always wondered this... Thank you!!! Great video!!!
@Carr9T2
@Carr9T2 9 ай бұрын
See how long it will last on the rev limiter.
@hzoltan90
@hzoltan90 9 ай бұрын
Put a brick on the throttle :)
@colinscutt5104
@colinscutt5104 9 ай бұрын
until the fuel runs out ..
@Carr9T2
@Carr9T2 9 ай бұрын
@@colinscutt5104 I think the engine would fail long before it runs out of fuel. I'd say under 30 mins until it stops.
@colinscutt5104
@colinscutt5104 9 ай бұрын
@@Carr9T2 why?
@FinnaPassAway
@FinnaPassAway 9 ай бұрын
​@@colinscutt5104 cause running it at full throttle and you will either overheat and warp the engine or break an internal component looong before it runs out of fuel
@hzoltan90
@hzoltan90 9 ай бұрын
Next video/challenge: Will it idle forever? Refill it every 72 hrs to keep continue :D
@pecata01
@pecata01 9 ай бұрын
I guessed around 110 hours, since these engines consume around 0,5 l/h when warm so 55 liter tank, calculation gives 110.
@999benhonda
@999benhonda 9 ай бұрын
I had a volvo 740 that would randomly shut off. I was told to try cleaning an ecu heat sink. I cleaned it, started the car an intended to see if it would stay running for an hour. The next morning i stepped outside my house, realized I'd left it idling all night. It maybe used 1/4 tank at most.
@Choober65
@Choober65 9 ай бұрын
OLD VW's are INDESTRUCTIBLE engine-wise. I have a 52 plate Bora with 179k on it and the local mechanic says it's the smoothest diesel he's worked on, then again, I drive it HARD.
@beardsntools
@beardsntools 8 ай бұрын
No they aren't lmao. In fact vw golf mk4 have bad engines, that start burning oil after 100.000km. You could do the engie rebuild which is costly, but that might or might not fix the problem. Also they pollute too much and they you will be swapping catalysators every 2 years to pass the emission test and that's with 10.000 km... they are just bad engines.
@mrproffesorr75
@mrproffesorr75 8 ай бұрын
Bullshit​@@beardsntools
@dari6795
@dari6795 4 ай бұрын
go easy on it, it deserves it
@erikkovacs3097
@erikkovacs3097 9 ай бұрын
I'm just pleasantly surprised someone didn't steal a car with the keys in, idling, left unattended at a business with a listed address after advertising all over the Internet.
@Arthurroo00
@Arthurroo00 9 ай бұрын
The viewers of this channel are probably people who do not steal just like with any small intelligent channel from which you can learn something.. You know there are places in this world were ppl dont steal things, mainly in Europe outside the big cities with local native people. I can run idle a car too for several days and if somebody is gonna touch it, only to shut it off so that the car doesn't break down.
@erikkovacs3097
@erikkovacs3097 9 ай бұрын
@@Arthurroo00 I wouldn't dare accuse any of the viewers of this channel but word spreads. Trust me I know there are places in this world where you can leave a car running and no one will touch it. Hell I wish I lived in a place like that instead of the Bay Area in California where 12 year old boys try to steal cars with handguns. So I have an understandably cynical view of humanity.
@dwoolwichpoly9086
@dwoolwichpoly9086 9 ай бұрын
@@Arthurroo00”with local native people” do I detect a certain racist undertone there? What you described is like that pretty much everywhere: a local town or village look after one another where as a city they have an individualistic mindset. Its got nothing to do with immigrants. Last time I checked, most car thieves are still British white from the council estates running up drugs up and down the country
@Arthurroo00
@Arthurroo00 9 ай бұрын
@@erikkovacs3097 I wish you to free yourself from this hell hole. Unfortunately, big cities are a tragedy where no one knows or trusts each other. I wish you luck my friend.
@Arthurroo00
@Arthurroo00 9 ай бұрын
@@dwoolwichpoly9086 Yes, read the government data, you will certainly learn the truth from them xD
@DrCrunkMusic
@DrCrunkMusic 9 ай бұрын
These are the questions that need answers boys 👌👌👊🙏
@satrah101
@satrah101 9 ай бұрын
Keep it going, refill when close to empty. Have competition on how many decades it will run for. 😊
@kennykennedy6298
@kennykennedy6298 9 ай бұрын
It would probably go until the oil in it starts to sludge up and the engine seizes
@pvtnum11
@pvtnum11 9 ай бұрын
@@kennykennedy6298 Could mitigate that by working out a method to change oil out while the engine is still running. If it leaks oil at a set rate, easy matter to top off as needed. Filter changes might be problematic, however.
@abdelmadjidkara
@abdelmadjidkara 9 ай бұрын
Nice experiment . I love this golf generation 1.9 pd (tank engine)
@williamprobert5124
@williamprobert5124 9 ай бұрын
In a Tesla you’d freeze to death after 24 hours. Great video
@Jonathan_Doe_
@Jonathan_Doe_ 9 ай бұрын
These engines at idle barely produce enough heat to make the heater work.
@HA05GER
@HA05GER 9 ай бұрын
@@Jonathan_Doe_ I disagree my car which also a diesel of same sort of era had it idling for half an hour earlier and the cabin was petty warm and heaters felt hot.
@JamesParus
@JamesParus 9 ай бұрын
Diesel has 10kwh per litre. When idling its pretty much all coming out as heat. If the tank was 50litres and 100h. Its taking 0.5l per hour. Its same as webasto heater. 5000watts all the time. Lot of wasted of course but still enough for heat.
@karlalton3170
@karlalton3170 9 ай бұрын
No you wouldn't cus it would catch fire 🤣🤣😂😂🤘🤘
@stianheggen6310
@stianheggen6310 9 ай бұрын
I can tell you have a lot of experience with electric cars 🤔😂
@killerdinamo08
@killerdinamo08 8 ай бұрын
In my town a Diesel Golf GTI would be the pinnacle of motoring for many...
@richiec9077
@richiec9077 9 ай бұрын
That was a brilliant experiment, i enjoyed catching up with your posts. That would of been a very sought after cat at one point, lots of extras like heated seats rain sensing wipers etc, my first nice car was a mk4 golf about 19 years ago was pretty new at the time ,only an 02 plate 1.6 se but i loved it, it felt very sophisticated lol. I actually remeber thinking the sun roof was quite cool with the felt cover that pulls over 😂 lol how times have changed for most , ive actually went back the way and drive a 2001 audi s3 as a daily driver these days
@reuben-rt
@reuben-rt 9 ай бұрын
I still have a mk4 1.6 se with sophisticated sun roof cover...
@Dziugenonas
@Dziugenonas 9 ай бұрын
Why did it start burning fuel so quickly after barely using any in the first two days?
@XDazzlaX
@XDazzlaX 9 ай бұрын
The fuel tank takes extra fuel past the full level of the gauge. Even up the filler neck.
@rkan2
@rkan2 9 ай бұрын
Also the gauge is not that linear in all places...
@HuckThis1971
@HuckThis1971 9 ай бұрын
I had a 2006 BEW golf like yours. Same color, same wheels! 😮 My scan gage II showed 1ltr/hr consumption at idle. Only problem is I saw engine temperature go down in cold canadian winter. Not worth it to idle. Problem too with long idling, you get fuel in your oil from low cylinder pressures. Also cylinder wall scoring. I recently purchased a 2000 chevy k3500 turbo weasel with only 125000km on the clock. Has blow by because of this. I installed a high idle switch. High idle is required to keep engine temps up and prevent damage. Just like the big rigs (Lori's) Cheers!
@rkan2
@rkan2 9 ай бұрын
Generally down to -10C these 1.9s should stay up to temp even when idling, if not, then your thermostat is gone.
@HuckThis1971
@HuckThis1971 9 ай бұрын
@@rkan2 thermostat is fine. Look at the piston design and you'll understand why! 😉
@paulmackilligin1754
@paulmackilligin1754 9 ай бұрын
Yes, you are 100% right. Tthese people saying their TDi PD 1.9l engines stay up to temperature when idling in winter are probably going by the idiot gauge on the dash, which is designed to show 90 degrees C (needle at 12 o'clock) at any temperature between 75 and 112 degrees C. You say you used a Scan Gauge. That will show the true temperature. I can confirm that even in a UK winter when it is around freezing point, these engines will NOT maintain the correct 92 degrees C at idle. Even driving around in winter they won't, not unless you are driving them very hard. In winter a partial grille block is essential if you want to maintain that 92 degrees C, otherwise they over-cool. About thermostats, yes, of course a faulty thermostat will make things even worse, and faulty thermostats are very very common, but even with a working thermostat that does not open, does not send any heat to the radiator below 87 degrees, these engines don't produce enough waste heat to keep themselves warm in winter without a little help to keep the cold air out of the engine bay. It's really a testament to how efficient these engines are. Heat is wasted energy.
@paulmackilligin1754
@paulmackilligin1754 9 ай бұрын
@@rkan2 Not in my experience. Are you relying on the 'idiot gauge' on the dash? That is designed to show 90 degrees C (i.e. needle at 12 o'clock) at any temperature between 75 degrees and 112 degrees C. So yes, it may well idle at over 75 degrees, but that's not hot enough to run efficiently, and is not hot enough to give decent heat in the cabin. And that's with a fully working thermostat, i.e. not opening, not sending heat to the radiator below the designed opening temperature of 87 degrees C.
@timothyhays1817
@timothyhays1817 9 ай бұрын
This experiment proved some cars get ZERO miles to the gallon.
@rkan2
@rkan2 9 ай бұрын
*tank
@thereissomecoolstuff
@thereissomecoolstuff 9 ай бұрын
I used to have a boat that had Gen 1 1.6 diesel engines. No turbos. That boat ran and sipped fuel like you wouldn’t believe.
@ianhill20101
@ianhill20101 9 ай бұрын
From my math my ford focus will last 26.7 days on tick over
@Tzankotz
@Tzankotz 9 ай бұрын
Side note: sleeping in a running car can be potentially deadly because of the possibility of carbon monooxide leaks. A lot of that is released when the car is idling, it has no aroma, no taste, yet it's very poisonous and kill a person in minutes without waking them ip.
@M4V3RiCkU235
@M4V3RiCkU235 8 ай бұрын
You don`t have these issues in the open. Yes, you don`t do that shit in a garage - certain death.
@Lewinner-nj6bh
@Lewinner-nj6bh 8 ай бұрын
@@M4V3RiCkU235 Someone I know died while sleeping in his van with the engine on. He had an exhaust leak below the floor of the van. He never woke up. Never ever sleep in a car with the engine on without a smoke and carbon monoxide detector.
@M4V3RiCkU235
@M4V3RiCkU235 8 ай бұрын
@@Lewinner-nj6bh that leak should be fixed. Is not like this commonly happens. As I said, in the open you have no troubles. Also when heavy snowing, you must be sure that the exhaust is not obstructed. But really...how much can it snow to cover the exhaust pipe ?! Is not like all we live in Alberta or Norway. BTW in most countries, a car with a leak in the exhaust won`t pass the annual inspection. That car would be marked as "not road worthy/ is illegal to drive it anymore until is fixed". Yeah, we have drastic rules in Europe - just to be sure this kind of s*** does not happen.
@movement2contact
@movement2contact 8 ай бұрын
Maybe in an American or Chinese car...
@RanDomRikM
@RanDomRikM 9 ай бұрын
The geek in me has just calculated that the crankshaft rotated approximately 320 million times during this test 😁
@AverageReviewsYT
@AverageReviewsYT 9 ай бұрын
Show math
@RanDomRikM
@RanDomRikM 9 ай бұрын
@@AverageReviewsYT 900rpm, approximate tick over = 54,000rp hour 54,000 x 102 hours = 5,508,000 turns of the crank. In my defence my first estimate was early in the morning and I was clearly half asleep 🤦🏻‍♂️😁
@AverageReviewsYT
@AverageReviewsYT 9 ай бұрын
@@RanDomRikM 5.5m vs 320m…. Close enough.
@RanDomRikM
@RanDomRikM 9 ай бұрын
@@AverageReviewsYT I had inadvertently multiplied the rpm by one too many sixties, so divide the 320m by 60 and you get near enough the same answer 🙂
@AverageReviewsYT
@AverageReviewsYT 9 ай бұрын
@@RanDomRikM I was messing with you lol
@smashonic
@smashonic 9 ай бұрын
you need to cycle the key 4-5 times before you start it... you have an VW om606 in there and you destroy it :)))) and about consumtion yeah... its simple math... a healty engine will consume between 0.5 and 0.7L/H so(best is 0.6 for edc15)... tank has approx 60l of fuel so.... yeah
@rkan2
@rkan2 9 ай бұрын
It wouldn't make it start, e.g. bleed much faster since the air is in the lines and won't bleed back via the return line before the tandem pump at the end of the camshaft turns.
@smashonic
@smashonic 9 ай бұрын
@@rkan2 would you bet 500 on that?
@gorytarrafa
@gorytarrafa 9 ай бұрын
If that's a real Gti TDI that car deserve better .
@Heliwrenchin
@Heliwrenchin 8 ай бұрын
Lol come to Canada where we let our diesel run all winter… back when I was young it was -40 up in the oil patch so I never shut my Cummins off the whole winter, except quick oil changes at work. Truck still ran when sold it at 680,000km
@gerlagerweij
@gerlagerweij 9 ай бұрын
These engines just don't die, immortal little shits
@JohnHarryShaun
@JohnHarryShaun 9 ай бұрын
The poor starter 😢
@nordic1121
@nordic1121 9 ай бұрын
What a totally waste of time, the manufacturer would have done this test along with cold temperature endurance testing over many hours, you are not teaching any of us anything.
@sinitarium
@sinitarium 9 ай бұрын
Thanks dude! I always kinda felt a little bad running my 1.9 ALH idle and always wondered how long I could do so.... I love those cars they are the best. Take care of that golf! Merry Xmas.
@BICIeCOMPUTERconGabriele
@BICIeCOMPUTERconGabriele 9 ай бұрын
this should make it cleas how ridiculous and poiintless is start-stop
@Dan23_7
@Dan23_7 9 ай бұрын
That’s a 150 Hp with the 3 red letters TDI. I have a beetle with the 100 ATD PD. But it’s not 100 anymore. I fitted a 130/150 manifold, (they fitted the same to both engines) I deleted the egr and had it remapped. He’s a nippy little chap now.
@shiraq07
@shiraq07 9 ай бұрын
Maybe if you rev it a few times every 8 hours it will last longer
@J.F.K.O
@J.F.K.O 9 ай бұрын
It lasted 60 ish hours longer than i expected. It's actually more economical to use than my webasto water heater i have on my Mtdi mk2 it seems to use close to 1 liter an hour. I think you can "service" the intercooler on them they have a drain port so well VW probably expected some blowby
@rkan2
@rkan2 9 ай бұрын
I haven't seen any intercoolers on these with a factory drain port. I've seen plenty added with self tappers though :D
@cullenmiller8170
@cullenmiller8170 9 ай бұрын
Man I was close. I guessed 103 hrs on your first short you did.
@Taydrum
@Taydrum 9 ай бұрын
Now pull the intake manifold and inspect that and the valves.
@nicholasgrossardt4890
@nicholasgrossardt4890 8 ай бұрын
I had a customer that had a 2002 Gulf. That was in a car wreck and he just cut the whole front half of the car off right about at the driver's seat just behind the driver's seat and used it to run an irrigation pump with a 50 gallon barrel for fuel. And he ran that for years an year's. He'd started up and let it run for days at a time and never had an issue. As far as I know, the car is still pumping. Water in the San Luis Valley in Colorado, watering potatoes in al falfa.😂🎉
@oscarzt1652
@oscarzt1652 9 ай бұрын
go and take it for 1 hour of top speed run on the autobahn to deglaze the bores
@dimmacommunication
@dimmacommunication 9 ай бұрын
Old golfs are amazing
@86smoke
@86smoke 9 ай бұрын
What you did is you allowed the air into fuel system by letting it burn all the diesel, so no wonder it did not start immediately. I'm actually impressed that it started without proper bleeding the system.
@rkan2
@rkan2 9 ай бұрын
All these old 1.9s will self bleed... Dunno if it does good to the injectors though. I dunno how much they open and therefore lack lubrication with just air...
@paulmackilligin1754
@paulmackilligin1754 9 ай бұрын
There's a lifter pump in the tank, which runs for a couple of seconds when you turn the ignition key to the first position. (I don't think just opening the driver's door makes the pump run on these.) Probably a good idea to take the key out and put it back in and turn to the first position a few times before trying to start the engine, to give the lifter pump a chance to fill the tubes going to the fuel filter in the engine bay.
@michaelhayes588
@michaelhayes588 9 ай бұрын
One of the best engines ever made
@adamharris5355
@adamharris5355 8 ай бұрын
Thats a pretty extreme way to chsrge a battery
@JeanTheron-cf8zl
@JeanTheron-cf8zl 9 ай бұрын
I guessed 100 h. Close enough 😅 Dad's Polo TDI with the ATD engine idles between 0.4 and 0.5 L/h, so the Golf was going to be close.
@Jerry_from_analytics
@Jerry_from_analytics 9 ай бұрын
What if you kept topping it up? Would it last a year? Or two?
@Boz1211111
@Boz1211111 9 ай бұрын
Who tf can pay for such experiment? Haha
@bandittelevision
@bandittelevision 8 ай бұрын
Starter has left the chat 😅
@anthonymillar6183
@anthonymillar6183 9 ай бұрын
🤔 don’t think newer diesels would do as good? Or maybe that’s your next test 😜 👍 👍
@MichaelFlatman
@MichaelFlatman 9 ай бұрын
DPF would probably be choked up
@YoureSoCreezy
@YoureSoCreezy 9 ай бұрын
They would crap out after an hour and need a manual dpf burn or mechanical intervention
@carsandgaming991
@carsandgaming991 8 ай бұрын
pretty good, my seat altea 1.9tdi bjb consumes 0.4l/h fuel with proof. i think those 1.9 tdi engines are robust. of course maintenance is key to success.
@dan8789
@dan8789 9 ай бұрын
I take it the heater was set to cold? As temp gauge stayed at 90°c
@herrkulor3771
@herrkulor3771 9 ай бұрын
If he wanted to assist the cooling he would heat the interior to maximum to get more of the heat out of the system. The TDI have the problem that they are so efficient that they don't heat enough. That's why all newer TDIs have extra heaters.
@yourdelirium84
@yourdelirium84 8 ай бұрын
Так это же Английский Академег!!
@phy7dop
@phy7dop 9 ай бұрын
"who would male a car that couldn't idle". BMW has had to stop selling cars to the uk police force. Due to the fact that they sit idling the engine for hours on end, it was causing something in the engine to fail (oil pump I think). It was only affecting police cars due to their duty cycle.
@MrAvant123
@MrAvant123 9 ай бұрын
I had an A4 with the PD engine - brilliant economy and performance - little bit smoky !
@aqibfreed4672
@aqibfreed4672 9 ай бұрын
What actually caused the fails ? If you were to leave your car idling for so long, why does the engine eventually get messed up.? What goes on inside
@frankatlarge
@frankatlarge 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for the 100 hours of entertainment!
@petersuggitt8957
@petersuggitt8957 8 ай бұрын
I'm guessing that was cheap fuel Luke - what if you had used vPower ?? Or would that only benefit when under load ?
@MIHAKOPRIVNICA
@MIHAKOPRIVNICA 9 ай бұрын
TDI all red :) 👌💪 surprisingly fast for a diesel especially with a tune :)
@gabrielv.4358
@gabrielv.4358 9 ай бұрын
I think idling the engine would ONLY HARM it if it is low on oil. Or has no water, besides that, no problem
@elpresidente2145
@elpresidente2145 9 ай бұрын
oil pressure tends to be relatively low at idle rev. Not that great but it should not harm the engine
@rkan2
@rkan2 9 ай бұрын
@@elpresidente2145 Depends on your engine. With idle you also don't need the same oil pressure on your crank regardless. Many engines around however which don't do so good with idling of course.
@PLAYER-MOST-WANTED
@PLAYER-MOST-WANTED 9 ай бұрын
5.7 hemi would like a word with you
@m140jam5
@m140jam5 9 ай бұрын
Pd engines indestructible!
@KamionKing
@KamionKing 8 ай бұрын
What car is this and what engine?
@stephenwilliamson1491
@stephenwilliamson1491 9 ай бұрын
A merc would have shit itself within 48hours
@wonkeep85
@wonkeep85 9 ай бұрын
Everyone loves a 1.9 PD
@TCBOT
@TCBOT 9 ай бұрын
id assume id just run out a of fuel at work we had a in shop built gen set made from a pd130 most abused thing ud ever seen used daily and never had oil change in 15 or so years its existed jiust plods mostly on tick over running small items
@hyper8545
@hyper8545 9 ай бұрын
I wana get a mk7 tdi to sit next to my mk6 gti :]
@berth7843
@berth7843 9 ай бұрын
Would be interesting to test same thing on a SDI
@zeashhazarrived
@zeashhazarrived 8 ай бұрын
As a content creator why would you not have a timelapse or something to film the vehicle when it fails 😐
@stevenlee4437
@stevenlee4437 9 ай бұрын
It’s one hell of a battery
@nasnas3478
@nasnas3478 9 ай бұрын
That car is special, I wanna buy from you!
@strobi0001
@strobi0001 9 ай бұрын
they consume half liters per hour. difficult to count... But after 1 hour of idle the motor cools back down and you cannot even heat the car efficiently so wonder why on earth would you idle your car that long. you'd better install a stationary heating into your car which works more efficiently and doesn't fuck up the engine.
@dvinez01
@dvinez01 9 ай бұрын
There is only ONE thing that can break a 1.9TDI (turbo,diesel,inyection) engine and its Chuck Norris with mjolnir
@therompeettori
@therompeettori 9 ай бұрын
The sound makes me miss my AFN Passat.
@andyshaw7648
@andyshaw7648 8 ай бұрын
If I did that with mine u wouldn’t be able to see from smoke after a hour haha
@wolfaja755
@wolfaja755 9 ай бұрын
First of all you’re not using the right sized turbo. Second of all is it really idling if you’re below the red line. Third of all you should be seeing if it can hold 80lbs of boost at “idle”.
@Mielech-cq9fi
@Mielech-cq9fi 9 ай бұрын
That hella long starting made me anxious
@caleidoo
@caleidoo 8 ай бұрын
I wonder how long my 1.3 TCE 160 gas engine would run. You know, in case the new ice age hits while I'm going for a snack.
@iplaycs3
@iplaycs3 9 ай бұрын
Interesting, why did it suddenly just eat 20 liters of fuel a day, if on the 1st day it took about 2.5 liters….
@paulmackilligin1754
@paulmackilligin1754 9 ай бұрын
That's because the fuel gauge is not linear. If I top mine up to the brim the gauge will show "Full" for about 200 miles, the next 200 miles will take it down to 3/4, another 200 miles to 1/2, another 200 to 1/4, and then you've got about 200 miles left in the tank to empty.
@Antisoc1alok
@Antisoc1alok 9 ай бұрын
Just shows you start stop is bull 💩its not saving all that much fuel on a newer car when ur at the lights etc. In fact its prob using more fuel to restart the engine than it would if left running. I know peps r gonna say its cutting emissions but if its using more fuel to restart the engine then its more emissions. 😮
@mercedesbenzw2119
@mercedesbenzw2119 9 ай бұрын
better a om606 idle it s sound good 👌👌
@juptuber6824
@juptuber6824 8 ай бұрын
the only thing which I was watching through whole video is the m5 next to the golf
@M4V3RiCkU235
@M4V3RiCkU235 8 ай бұрын
1.9 TDI ALH: How long I will run? Better ask - how deep are your pockets? :))
@fastinradfordable
@fastinradfordable 9 ай бұрын
If it was alh you’d have gone 50% longer
@shutu6338
@shutu6338 9 ай бұрын
does it have a Cat ? cuz i believe it would be the reason for dripping oil ;D cuz back pressure of dirty Cat
@kostov7038
@kostov7038 9 ай бұрын
how dare you say old golf here in bulgaria these golfs are one of the most popular cars to drive and we dont consider a 2003 car old
@KraliMishev
@KraliMishev 9 ай бұрын
Could've sold that baby in South Europe for 4 grand! 1 owner, no corrosion.
@rosslucas700
@rosslucas700 8 ай бұрын
You can hear it has no oil in it anymore basically wants to knock prob overheated it and then vids over 🤷‍♂️
@marvellousmistake
@marvellousmistake 8 ай бұрын
whoever's cutting these clips is doing a terrible job, wait for him to finish his sentence before cutting!
@dubblewrap
@dubblewrap 8 ай бұрын
Your test was no good. That fuel guage showed 30 liters in it. After you put in ' 10 ' liters
@CharlesCurran-m9p
@CharlesCurran-m9p 9 ай бұрын
At work some idiot left a Chrysler minivan idling from Friday night until Monday morning.
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