2009 Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG | Track Tested | Edmunds.com

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CHECK OUT THE CTS-V VS. M5 VS. C63 COMPARISON:
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Once you get your hands on a supercharged 556-horsepower 2009 Cadillac CTS-V, you know that you need a 500-hp 2008 BMW M5 with which to measure it. It's a matter of practical science.
Of course, there's a sizable price difference between the $59,995 CTS-V and the $86,675 M5, and we don't want to get our comparison results skewed by mere money. Maybe we should add the 507-hp 2009 Mercedes-Benz E63 AMG to our science project. Trouble is, this Merc's $86,875 price tag still doesn't put the CTS-V under any pressure.
We had a better idea. We opted for the more nimble 2009 Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG. This compact sedan cranks out only 451 hp, but it weighs almost 400 pounds less than the E63, and its base price of $58,075 rings up about $2,000 cheaper than the CTS-V.
Is the 2009 Cadillac CTS-V a true benchmark in the super sedan category? Measured against the pure performance of the 2008 BMW M5 and the value of the 2009 Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG, we knew the truth would come out.

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@green95gt
@green95gt 16 жыл бұрын
wow...acceleration test, then skidpad, then slalom, then 60-0 braking! Very thorough job edmunds. It's amazing how you read drivers minds. I mean I can't tell you how many times I've encountered a slalom and skidpad setup on public road. I honestly don't know why others within the auto media measure lap times on road courses. What is that crap about? To me a good set of cones on a drag strip is what it's all about when it come to performance driving.
@seahunter75
@seahunter75 16 жыл бұрын
lemons! all of-em
@gengiz
@gengiz 16 жыл бұрын
this is actually fatser in straight line than the m3 but on track the m3 just slightly beat it
@alergic2bullshit
@alergic2bullshit 16 жыл бұрын
gay car
@jml8841
@jml8841 14 жыл бұрын
The caddy has over 100BHP more than the C63 and is supercharged...that's not a fair fight is it? At least use the E55 AMG or something.... Although i'd love to see a comparison test between the CTS-V and the new 800BHP Brabus E V12
@player1vladimir
@player1vladimir 14 жыл бұрын
@biturboi6 don't forget experts who can make something like that. Btw. a buick 3.8 Vs with 1000 hp mentioned above isn't something what i could call stock engine. Also let me update my last comment the Mercedes 6.2L engine is still the strongest V8 in the world but now producing 571 HP.
@player1vladimir
@player1vladimir 15 жыл бұрын
First of all the CTS-V is in a different class, second Mercedes C 63 AMG doesn't have turbos or supercharges) Also the Mercedes 63 AMG is the strongest V8 ever made!
@thecubanratio1
@thecubanratio1 16 жыл бұрын
Every "first drive" video of the C63 that i've seen mentions how communicative, confidence-inspiring, and great the steering and handling of the car is. Infact, in the most recent comparison test against the 2008 BMW M5 & 2009 Cadillac CTS-V, the C63 was rated first in overall driving dynamics, fun-to-drive, handling, and steering performance. So, to describe the handling,"isn't the greatest" wouldn't be the right way to describe it, & even saying it's "good" is definitely an understatement
@player1vladimir
@player1vladimir 15 жыл бұрын
nice one Here is another one Glorify (praise) every car but drive a Mercedes-Benz.
@Jushniykray
@Jushniykray 15 жыл бұрын
fastest saloon is BRABUS Black Baron (Mercedes E class) with more that 380 km/h.
@EVERLIVERPOOL
@EVERLIVERPOOL 13 жыл бұрын
17 dislike is from the mendling m3 fanboys
@macvicar24
@macvicar24 15 жыл бұрын
You know we are biased toward our piece of craps. So get over it. I enjoy my car because it is cheap to maintain runs forever when maintained and runs circles around most cars out there. Mercedes are overpriced and when they break they are expensive to repair. They do break just as much as any other car. I used to work on all makes of cars. So I can speak from experience. Do you even own a Mercedes or are you just dreaming of one for some reason and defending the crap out of them? Just curious.
@player1vladimir
@player1vladimir 15 жыл бұрын
The acceleration of an object as produced by a net force is directly proportional to the magnitude of the net force, in the same direction as the net force, and inversely proportional to the mass of the object. a = F(net) / m In other words for acceleration 2 things are important. Mass (kg)- the mass of the car. And the Force (Nm)- the torque of the car. More torque = better acceleration Lower mass (weight) = better acceleration
@NITROURAN
@NITROURAN 15 жыл бұрын
I was just wondering, but you know, the mercedes c63 amg is lighter about 300-500kg than cls 6,3 and cl 6,3 amg. that's why it's faster. But know the question is, whether c63 is faster going from 100km/h to 200km/h. because when you go on such speeds, it's the question of engine and "horses" that you have. I don't think that the mass of the car is the most important thing in this case. what do you think?
@thecubanratio1
@thecubanratio1 16 жыл бұрын
well, when inside line compared those cars, they said they were comparing the best sport sedans out there (i don't know why the m3 wasn't in there), & a large portion of the comparison took place on track. It was commented on rotating its nose towards the apex better than the 2008 M5 or 2009 CTS-V. So this car definitely holds up, on and off the track, but, when its handling is compared to the M3's, that's where the line is drawn. & i would take insideline's word for it before I took Top Gear's
@BigRed10287
@BigRed10287 16 жыл бұрын
I have to give credit were to the C63-AMG, but then again I can't help but notice that the M5 is bigger and still did nearly as good as the Mec, and the same goes for the CTS-V. This is just me, but I think I would still pay the extra $2k for the CTS-V, but that being said I'm also a huge fan of the tunability and simplicity of the LS series of engines. It would be awsome to see all three of these cars face off at the same track and same time though.
@player1vladimir
@player1vladimir 15 жыл бұрын
Sorry, but the 63 AMG is the strongest Mercedes has claimed it is the world's most powerful naturally-aspirated V8 engine!!! No GM naturally asoirated engine is stronger then that. Also that 5,4 L engine in SLR GT produces 680 HP and there is no GM Model that can even be close to pure European V8 POWER.
@player1vladimir
@player1vladimir 15 жыл бұрын
The Mercedes 6.2L engine produces 525HP in SL 63 AMG and CL 63 AMG and is the strongest naturally-aspirated V8 engine known to mankind. WOW 3.8L? lol Remember the BMW M10 1.5L inline-four with 1500 HP from 1986? Or is that too smalll and too powerful for you?
@bradenalexander
@bradenalexander 16 жыл бұрын
Top Gear. They none of them, including "the stig" could hit the apex with the car. On road it may have good dynamics, and good feel, but when pushed to the limits on a track it doesnt hold up. Obviously not many people will be taking it on a track to test limits, but thats not the point.
@timmy23apsb
@timmy23apsb 14 жыл бұрын
@zxcv123123 actually the C63 is in the same car class as the CTS-V, but journalists just compare the CTS-V to the M5 because of its output. A true competitor to the M5 would be a STS-V in terms of car segment
@rhoydal
@rhoydal 15 жыл бұрын
Handles better? On normal road you will never have chance to notice that small difference between those cars, unless you are crazy behind the wheels. In normal daily life the C63 will be much more fun because of its power !
@zykkfyw
@zykkfyw 15 жыл бұрын
I think I'll go with 5999cc here CTS V(s) are the current fastest four door sedans ... hands down... and will beat any stock 4door from Europe, Japan, Korea or China ... and guess what it was built in the USA...
@player1vladimir
@player1vladimir 15 жыл бұрын
Ooh yeah i am a Big Mercedes fan Here we have a saying it says God drives a Mercedes. Well that means that Mercedes is the best and there is no one who can say something agaisnt that. :)
@thugangel662
@thugangel662 16 жыл бұрын
Yeah they did not one car but dont forget the zr1 but look at their timing?? the way the economy is now i cant afford to buy cts-v or a zr1 i want to but i cant so they still screwed us yet again
@BigRed10287
@BigRed10287 16 жыл бұрын
Yes and even so it still got out performed in all those test except for the skid pad (they were identical there). It's still a very badass sedan though.
@ziz4ever
@ziz4ever 15 жыл бұрын
for zxcv123123 everybody knows that !!!(almoust:) what they did they took the cars by price ...i`m not sure about 0-60 times like nytrus112 said
@gengiz
@gengiz 16 жыл бұрын
ive heard this thing in the flesh and let me tell you the vid dont do it justice at all, it shook the ground and i almost blew in my work uniform
@player1vladimir
@player1vladimir 15 жыл бұрын
We have here another saying it goes something like this. Mercedes is an automobile everything else are just cars.
@FuriousPumpkin
@FuriousPumpkin 15 жыл бұрын
we're not really in competition with the mexicans and brazilians are we? i don't know of many cars they make
@eldukedrino
@eldukedrino 16 жыл бұрын
u know what guys.. think of this as the GERMAN MUSTANG
@digitalbow
@digitalbow 15 жыл бұрын
Edmunds does not use rollout for 0-60 clocking, so that's why their times are (more accurately) slower.
@thugangel662
@thugangel662 16 жыл бұрын
The new CTS-V is the shit its faster too it has the fastest time for a production sedan on the Nürburgring!!
@BillDFC
@BillDFC 14 жыл бұрын
Mercedes Benz have done it all first and best...two cars in this world....Mercedes Benz and the rest.
@datrucolombianballer
@datrucolombianballer 15 жыл бұрын
no it doesnt edmunds suck at getting 0 to 60 time check out motortrend caranddriver or roadandtrack
@player1vladimir
@player1vladimir 15 жыл бұрын
Brabus is on of the best tuners in the world if someone knows how to tune a car then it is Brabus.
@8MunchenBayern8
@8MunchenBayern8 16 жыл бұрын
look at his name..honda japan pride, he has a butty buddy fetish for cheap cars, Mercedes forever.
@player1vladimir
@player1vladimir 16 жыл бұрын
Every European car is better then Japanese cars. Lexus is just a fucking Toyota.
@player1vladimir
@player1vladimir 15 жыл бұрын
The same is here in Europe Only in France and UK they drive they domestic cars.
@eldukedrino
@eldukedrino 16 жыл бұрын
then think of it as the perfect mustang that's very expensive ಠ_ಠ :P
@Mercedes_Benz_Bros.
@Mercedes_Benz_Bros. 13 жыл бұрын
dont fuck wid mercs my favourite cars of all times fuck beema and audis amg will the c63 will tickle the beeema and audi anydaY OF THE WEEK LOL
@danielestella4015
@danielestella4015 6 жыл бұрын
What the fuck did I just read?
@yamwho74
@yamwho74 16 жыл бұрын
Sledgehammer with a cute bowe. No it's no M3 , but damn it's a beast.
@AMGPWR
@AMGPWR 15 жыл бұрын
In the real world my stock E55 is faster & quicker in the 1/4 mile!
@macvicar24
@macvicar24 15 жыл бұрын
Ever hear of the current Corvette z06 and the, GM's sister company in down under, the Holden Commodore HSV 427. It has 505 HP naturally aspirated. If you can't beat naturally aspirated, GM made V6 turbos that made way more power than any Euro V8, V12, etc. Buick GNX motors made 1000 horsepower out of a 3.8 liter turbo V6 back in the late 80's. Maybe before your time. Not sure.
@Bo12346hhgfgdg
@Bo12346hhgfgdg 2 жыл бұрын
“Holden Commodore”?? That sounds so goofy. Lol
@Towelman20
@Towelman20 15 жыл бұрын
The cts-v competes with the m5 and the e63 not the m3 and the c63.
@8MunchenBayern8
@8MunchenBayern8 15 жыл бұрын
umm, actually the biggest market for German cars is in USA.
@bradenalexander
@bradenalexander 16 жыл бұрын
I hear the handling isnt the greatest on this car though...
@stevz0r
@stevz0r 16 жыл бұрын
eeee... not impressed especially for its price range.
@jattpunjabi93
@jattpunjabi93 16 жыл бұрын
love this car...so better than m3!!! AMG\\\ baby!
@QAZWSX545
@QAZWSX545 16 жыл бұрын
The IS-F outsold the M3? Where's your source?
@sspope
@sspope 15 жыл бұрын
3.9 in a laboratory, 4.3 in the real world.
@Verification11
@Verification11 13 жыл бұрын
car and driver review got the exact same car to do 0-60 in 3.9sec and 1/4 mile in 12 second flat maybe its the Condition, and a better surface, or maybe better drivers somehow... although its an automatic this car is a torque monster nonetheless !!! thumbs up so everybody see the beast numbers in car and driver written review!!
@timmy23apsb
@timmy23apsb 13 жыл бұрын
@AZ37DD the E-class and 5-series are mid-size cars. The 7-series and S-class are classifies as LWB. Cadillac designed the CTS to compete in the entry-level luxury segment, and it designed the STS to compete in the luxury mid-size segment. If anyone did a comparison of a v6 CTS, they would not compare it to a six cylinder 5 series, they would compare it to a six cylinder 3-series.
@player1vladimir
@player1vladimir 16 жыл бұрын
And it is still way better then Toyota
@player1vladimir
@player1vladimir 16 жыл бұрын
Mercedes is the best fuck the rest!!!
@biturboi6
@biturboi6 14 жыл бұрын
@player1vladimir The 1.5l your speaking of was based on the M10. It put out about 1300hp in qualifying, but ran about 850-900hp most of the time. This is a racecar engine. Its easy to pump out insane hp/l numbers when you have insane amounts of money and the engine only needs to last a few races.
@myrule12
@myrule12 15 жыл бұрын
is it ? or the cls BRABUS rocket
@NITROURAN
@NITROURAN 15 жыл бұрын
0-60 really in 4,5 seconds?? how can that be, it's faster than cls 6,3 and cl 6,3 amg! but this is "only" 457 HP/
@Mercedes_Benz_Bros.
@Mercedes_Benz_Bros. 13 жыл бұрын
i love mercs fuck beema and audis there full of shit u dont get any fun in those car but in a merc it just makes u smile :)
@GrahamGallaher
@GrahamGallaher 15 жыл бұрын
R u talking about the E46 M3?
@player1vladimir
@player1vladimir 16 жыл бұрын
CTS-V is in a different class
@98MAzdaMilleniaS
@98MAzdaMilleniaS 13 жыл бұрын
@zxcv123123 Price wise the C63 costs the same as the CTS-V, the M5 costs are more in line with the $65k C63 over the $100k E63.
@seanisagamer
@seanisagamer 14 жыл бұрын
that was a slow take off.
@player1vladimir
@player1vladimir 16 жыл бұрын
YEAH EUROPEAN are the best
@Aiyahhh
@Aiyahhh 16 жыл бұрын
yes i agree, by the looks of it the suspension could be stiffened up a bit more
@justincrap
@justincrap 15 жыл бұрын
It does handle better ;)
@doublesizzle
@doublesizzle 16 жыл бұрын
nope not better than m3
@coolerdude44
@coolerdude44 16 жыл бұрын
ive seen you before lol
@mazda6tuner99
@mazda6tuner99 16 жыл бұрын
0-60 was not impressive
@player1vladimir
@player1vladimir 15 жыл бұрын
What about the weight?
@huze5
@huze5 13 жыл бұрын
@zxcv123123 Its actually got a better 0-60mph time than both of them.
@MrIlovebmw86
@MrIlovebmw86 13 жыл бұрын
@zxcv123123 but its still faster than both with the p31 package. ha!
@8MunchenBayern8
@8MunchenBayern8 15 жыл бұрын
graphite
@derbigpr500
@derbigpr500 15 жыл бұрын
0-60 time can be improved, the start is too gentle.
@BillDFC
@BillDFC 16 жыл бұрын
Once you've followed the star,there's no other car!
@osiyal
@osiyal 16 жыл бұрын
What a car! Awesome. I love the way the engine sounds.
@Turbosauce
@Turbosauce 16 жыл бұрын
what an awesome car. I hope to one day have it
@Rutteman
@Rutteman 16 жыл бұрын
Heck i love BMW but this Benz is Awesome!!
@ThousanWhite
@ThousanWhite 14 жыл бұрын
Who needs anymore power than this???
@powerstrokediesel365
@powerstrokediesel365 15 жыл бұрын
0:37-ish.... RACE THE TRAIN .... LOL
@lfsracer79
@lfsracer79 13 жыл бұрын
0-60 in 4.5 seconds with no wheelspin.
@99Silverado53
@99Silverado53 14 жыл бұрын
pullin' on the TRAIN at 0:40
@hassan0098
@hassan0098 15 жыл бұрын
Slow!
@ambientflier
@ambientflier 13 жыл бұрын
@EVERLIVERPOOL shhh
@zoemayne
@zoemayne 16 жыл бұрын
c class amg!?
@apmathai
@apmathai 16 жыл бұрын
Great sound.
@zx9mic
@zx9mic 15 жыл бұрын
i'll spank the sh*t out of that over priced slush box. ( my weapon of choice is my 06 cts-v...the worlds only single turbo v on earth.)
@luxurykid666
@luxurykid666 14 жыл бұрын
The american cars may be faster on paper but you can't beat German engineering and quality. You get what you pay fora
@thecubanratio1
@thecubanratio1 16 жыл бұрын
The BMW M3 is truly one of the only other sedans that is better than the C63 in one or more of those categories
@Scudeyyy
@Scudeyyy 13 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry but inside line know nothing about how to test cars. they do these stupid tests instead of testing the car to see its feel on the public roads. all these stats are meaningless. and then they test luxury saloons like the 535i on a track? who the f is gna buy that to drive on a track?!
@luxurykid666
@luxurykid666 14 жыл бұрын
Another thing, Cadillac tuned the cts-v in germane
@Thunderboardautos
@Thunderboardautos 14 жыл бұрын
M3 is better!
@FabuluJET
@FabuluJET 15 жыл бұрын
M3!!!! is better
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