2013-2015 Ford Explorer Rolling/Surging Idle during AC operation (TSB 15-0149)

[@JSPJ1796]

This just saved me from spiraling into a troubleshooting nightmare, thank you for your service

[@jemecarlos5555]

What did you do to solve the problem?

[@skylerpartridge8570]

Brother, you are the man! I’ve been trying to troubleshoot this for 3 years! I’ve confirmed all components were good. I was thinking it was exactly the problem you just stated, you just confirmed it and gave me the solution. If you’re ever in Fort Worth Tx I’m buying you a beer! Thank you again!

[@Garskie0827]

Just got the same issue with our newly acquired Ford Explorer 2013. What is the best solution to resolve it? Thanks 🙏🙏

[@fatimahmacklin5597]

So what exactly is the issue? I need it spelled out to me so I can take my car in and get this resolved.

[@skylerpartridge8570]

@@fatimahmacklin5597 you need to take your car into a shop/ mechanic, someone whom has ford maintenance software. You need to tell them that you need a PCM update 15-0149. He explained the purpose and reasoning of the update perfectly. There’s nothing mechanically wrong with your vehicle it’s just the computing software and parameters in which the computer was originally designed. So yeah take it to a shop lol

[@skylerpartridge8570]

@@Garskie0827 take it to a shop or mechanic that has the maintenance software to preform a PCM software update 15-0149.

[@celestehavener1247]

My 2016 does the exact same thing. Has a brand new transmission and we thought it was throttle body so the dealership replaced it. Immediately after leaving tye shop it did it again.

[@CoyRoss-t4j]

This was very helpful thanks for making this video on it.

[@aarondettling2275]

Great catch! Great video!

[@atlchopperz1765]

Give the engine a periodic rev if your just gonna sit, it seems to help . Ive done this update at the dealer and it still happens :/

[@danielp6730]

Thank you I have this exact issue. I will follow up with ford on this TSB.

[@jonsvideos321]

Did you have the pcm updated per tsb and did it take care of the issue?

[@Misticzerx0r]

3 years later we still waiting for a follow up

[@walterwhite1]

Did it work?

[@samshields777]

My sisters 2015 just started doing this. Trying to get her to take it to the dealer is like pulling teeth. Her truck is idling around 650 and rn it’s only dropping to about 500. Idk if it’s causing any unnecessary wear on the engine but I hope it doesn’t get any worse

[@cutator]

I have a 2011 doing the exact same thing. AC operation cuts RPM's in half and engine becomes sluggish.

[@ChrisSelling]

Same issue on my 2013 interceptor. I’ve found that with the hood up the surging/rolling is less likely to occur.

[@perkinatorfpv5553]

hmm. at ambient temps of 92 degrees your high pressure should be at around 250-275psi. After the pressure normalizes, you're pretty low for your ambient temp

[@FIXITFISK]

Thanks for the great information, what program is that you were using on your phone? I would love to have something like that.

[@jonsvideos321]

Thanks for sharing!! I have a customer with same issue. I ran across the tsb while diagnosing the complaint. I was hoping to read where someone had updated the pcm with latest update to know if it fixed the issue. I cleaned tb and did a idle relearn but still does not pick up quick enough after clutch engages.

[@tradinpaint7606]

What did you figure out?

[@poole0704]

I have the same problem with my 2014. I've replaced the compressor and still surged. Going to the dealership in a few days to do the pcm update. I will update to see if it fixes it.

[@danielp6730]

Hey did it happen to fix the issue?

[@poole0704]

@@danielp6730 Yes it fixed the surge.

[@dallass2633]

@@poole0704 what did you get fixed to help the surge?

[@poole0704]

@@dallass2633 dealership did a pcm update. It still surged on initial start up and then went away. Car had too many issues got rid of it a few weeks ago.

[@ghaithghaith2985]

Hi, how much does the dealer charge you to fix the AC problem, please?

[@dodgeram1500tn]

Mine does it just sitting and you can turn headlights on or something that takes a lot of power and shakes the suv and almost dies , think the alternator is doing it. And the air is off too.

[@Kevsrocking85]

my 2011 has been doing it for over a year, the dealer has no clue to what the issue is. Ridiculous. This is exactly what happens to mine. trying to find the TSB right now. If you have a link, that would be helpful. Thanks!

[@22rjrobertson]

great video!

[@kcorcoran20009]

My 2017 explorer does this any suggestions how to fix?

[@jeffellner930]

So did anybody that has this problem get it fixed? I have the same thing on my 2013.

[@nmsumike]

Same issue here

[@Johnnyreengo]

Same thing happens on my 17. Should it still need the pcm flash?

[@BadRonald1]

My 2009 Explorer has a bad idle that keeps dipping down to 400 and back up to 600 rpm then back down and I can hear my air conditioner, turning on and off, and my friend told me it was because you’re low on Freon same thing you said I tried everything PCV valve EGR new hoses and sometimes the computer corrects it and then it goes away. It’s frustrating because at the light in intersection, I have to put it in neutral. It kind of helps a little bit when I do that but couple of times it went dead and I had to hurry and start the car back up again.

[@dallass2633]

I have the same problem! Did you figure it out?

[@JuanRios-ix1pc]

2014 ford fusion se 1.5 L doing exactly the same clean the tb but just a little improvement because still doing it but engine felt less stressed but car still rough idle only when i turn on the ac here where i live is 100 to 110 Fahrenheit :(

[@edgardoruiz627]

Hi Anthony, I have the same problem, could you give me the link of the TSB, or say what steps I should do ... I appreciate it

[@luispena86]

Hi anthony did u fix this issue?? Same things is doing mine thanks

[@TheVintageEngineer]

luis pena never paid to have it reflashed

[@luispena86]

So how its ur truck working now ??

[@JuanRios-ix1pc]

Pls if you fix it let us know. Same here.

[@joep9219]

My 2004 does escape does something similar but the a/c doesn't work. I'm thinking the Freon is low. Is

[@Movieman1965]

My 2013 Explorer XLT 3.5L V6 also does this when A/C on and engine idling. I really want to solve this.

[@ryanmarocki]

Took my 2015 Explorer to Ford and there only guess was to replace my Compressor as it might have an internal failure. I have 0 Faith in my local dealer! They literally wanted to replace my brand new tires, battery, and brakes. 9K quote ...

[@MrDerekRobinson]

Wild!!!!

[@austintyree6167]

Does anybody know the cost of the fix?

[@Haidarsattar]

exactly what I have at this moment. I have 13 limited my compressor engage rpm 400 disengage compressor unless I step on paddle. but I dont have warranty on my explorer do I get a free TSB?

[@TheVintageEngineer]

TSB aren’t like recalls, if you are out of warranty a TSB isn’t free. TSB are there to help solve a problem that the technician might not figure out on there own, or to speed up repair because the issue is already known.

[@xx_xx399]

Is that an aftermarket center controls and screen?

[@TheVintageEngineer]

xx_xx / no that’s just a Samsung tablet that I sat in front on the factory screen

[@Movieman1965]

@@TheVintageEngineer Hahaha! I first thought that looked strange cause it says Samsung! Then I took a closer look and noticed its your tablet.

[@wide2thebuzz]

Got this TSB reflash done at the dealer, problem persists, and now I have no ac

[@arturopens4410]

Your ac compressor needs replacing.

[@wide2thebuzz]

@@arturopens4410 compressor was replaced, rolling/surging persists but ac works, im completely at a loss as to whats causing it

[@arturopens4410]

@@wide2thebuzz Does the problem occur when the ac is on?

[@wide2thebuzz]

@@arturopens4410 yes, and goes away when its turned off

[@wide2thebuzz]

@@arturopens4410 rolling and surging is accompanied by a distinctive "whine" from the belt side of the engine

[@matthewbehrens4068]

Mine is doing this with the heat… is this the same issue?

[@dallass2633]

Mine is too. You figure anything out?

[@tradinpaint7606]

Man, I’ve had the update done, and a new compressor put in. I cannot figure this out to save my life. I have been thinking that the alternator is bad or something. The rolling idle will also do this if I’m refueling and don’t turn the car off ( I know your not supposed to do). I’m at a complete loss and the ford dealership are just the same.

[@TheVintageEngineer]

Pressures are fine?

[@tradinpaint7606]

Yes, pressures are fine.

[@tradinpaint7606]

I’ve been seeing people changing transmission mount on driver side to help the issue of harsh rpm vibration. But I don’t know if that will solve a fluctuating issue.

[@jonsvideos321]

Your issue could be a bad evap purge valve . Especially if it is worse after filling car with fuel. Scan pcm for codes. Suspect faulty evap purge valve if any codes. P1450, p0456,

[@KK-nb7pl]

Is the 2011 model OK with TSB 15-0149?

[@TheVintageEngineer]

Unless it has been updated it’s only for 13-15

[@jonathanoakley8072]

How would you fix this issue?

[@TheVintageEngineer]

Jonathan Oakley take it to dealer and have them reflash pcm

[@JacksonLewis9947]

Anthony Shelton got quoted 138$ with tax for releash. Does this seem excessive? Don’t really want to pay someone to diagnose it, but what exactly in the reflag fixes this? It seems weird it’s a software related issue.

[@joep9219]

Wait is that on your phone? What are you using? Is it bi-derectional?

[@TheVintageEngineer]

Joe P android tablet, only the windows version of Forscan does bi directional at this time

[@joep9219]

@@TheVintageEngineer thank you I'm gonna check that out.