2013 Mac Pro 10 Years Later

The Mac Pro 2013. What a crazy little beast. In this video, I unbox the machine, compare it to my Mac mini M1 in terms of performance, and ramble extensively about all things Mac Pro 2013 answering the main question, did this machine ever need to exist?
Shoutout to Dave for giving me a nice deal on this Mac a couple of years ago and like always packing it up so nicely: / @geekanoids
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[@ItsMyNaturalColour]

Just dropping by to say a massive thank you. I'm overwhelmed and very flattered by all of these lovely comments. About the Mac Pro. There are loads of absolutely fantastic points in this thread, so many that I could easily make another video of a very similar runtime about those points alone! My plan is to try and put together a Part 2 to this, trying out some things that people have suggested, and covering in detail some more of the points listed here, especially regarding the Mac Studio, a machine that I forgot about entirely when making this video. On a more general note, I'm delighted that after all this time, people are still enjoying this content. I know things have changed a lot on KZbin, so to see so much love for this style is very refreshing and means a great deal to me. Thank you everyone. As always there's no shortage of ideas in my head, it's just about time and life. I'll never ever 'leave KZbin' or anything crazy like that, it's just sometimes it may take me a little longer than other times. I'll always be here though! I can't respond to every comment, but thank you for the love and I hope you're all doing great too.

[@BenCos2018]

your channel is amazing so it would be hard not to come back to your channel you make some of the best content on youtube imo and also don't have multiple ads hidden in videos

[@daughteroftherisenking3165]

❤🕊

[@PromediaUkPhotography]

Great to see you back Tom, I've been meaning to message you to ask how you're doing, so was pleasantly surprised to see this great video!

[@darthwarren4599]

Keep up the work. No matter how long your videos take or how much time u need off they are a treat whenever we get one

[@BenCos2018]

​@@darthwarren4599agreed 100%

[@AlexCheerNZ]

Just what I needed today! THE RETURN

[@CJT80]

Can’t believe he’s back finally!

[@mattedwards1547]

Mate, this is like a long overdue hug, hits that spot. I hope you and your family have been doing great. :) I've been still meaning to get my grubby mitts on one of these machines.

[@BenCos2018]

agreed

[@stephenvalente3296]

Me too, would love one for the collection. Hopefully they will become as cheap as the old 4,1's in the near future.

[@geekanoids]

So good to see this online. As you know I have not been too well and I forgot you had acquired this from me. As far as my records show, it came from Apple who upgraded me from the base specification to this, replacing my faulty 2013 Mac Pro. They had none of the original one I ordered in stock, so I agreed to this. The D700 GPU turned out to be a great choice, as they performed great for video editing. It came with 2x 8GB memory modules inside and I upgraded with the Crucial Memory straight away. Lucky I did that upgrade, as the pre-installed memory had developed a fault, so never made their way back into the machine. I hope you really enjoy it Tom :D

[@ItsMyNaturalColour]

Thanks Dave, knew you’d remember the reasons behind the configuration. Makes a lot of sense. Hope you’re doing well, sure we’ll catch up soon. All the best.

[@britishredfox]

I picked up a 2013 Mac Pro at the start of the pandemic just to have a desktop Mac and it honestly blew me away with how fast and responsive it was. It may sound a bit weird but I think it's one of the computers I've loved the most despite (or perhaps because of) its flaws.

[@lambertlambert7076]

Please tell explicitly what are the flaws of this unit ? i'm hesitating between a Mac Pro 2013 and an Imac2017 to produce music with Logic Pro. Do you have an idea which one would be the best ?

[@jani0077]

@@lambertlambert7076 as an owner of this model, the ones with the mid- and high-end graphics units (the D500 and D700 ones) tend to overheat and in the end fail because of bad thermal management, so buy one with the D300s in it. I have this on a proprietary stand to cool the unit even further and clean its internals regularly so that no overheating occurs. Besides these i'm not aware of any other issues (and buy a lot of TB2 to TB3 dongles, it's just wasteful to not use the 6 TB2 ports).

[@lambertlambert7076]

@@jani0077 I finally bought a Mac mini 2023 with basic config as it is supposed to be more powerful than 2013 Mac Pro.

[@jani0077]

@@lambertlambert7076 that’s true, but the only thing I don’t like in these newer macs is the soldered ssd. In my older iMacs or Mac Pros this is a hassle-free experience.

[@lambertlambert7076]

@@jani0077 Yes I do agree. It's not acceptable that SSD or RAM are soldered to prevent any upgrade or simply a replacement for repair. This is not only a dishonest way to push selling of new product, it's also against the trend of preserving the environment, which is quite amazing knowing that Apple is supposed to be a devoted woke company.

[@TibiviL]

Welcome back dude! Looking forward to watch the video once again! I hope you and your family are doing great!

[@planesgamingtt]

I remember subscribing to you back in 2009 from my older channel ( which is now closed down ). Logging onto youtube today and seeing an IMNC upload really made me feel some sort of emotions that I can't even begin to express. Great to see you're still around Tom! Best regards- Keegan.

[@MaxMacZone]

So glad that you still pop in when you have the chance, always love to see you around on KZbin.

[@larrycroft470]

Tom!!!!! I have been so worried about you Jess & the boys. I am so thankful to see you again!!! How is your family? Please let them all know how much we have missed them!!!! You have made my summer now - knowing everything is ok with y'all. Your friend across the pond. Larry

[@ItsMyNaturalColour]

Thank you, Larry! Apologies to have caused any worry, we're all doing great. Hope all is well with you too!

[@johnhorncastle2762]

Great to see you back, was just thinking about your channel the other week and hoping you were ok. Massive respect for fitting in filming around family life, great video and look forward to the next one. Keep up the great work.

[@neob9017]

Tom, this was an absolute treat! Glad to hear from you again! Hope Jess and the boys are doing well. Hope to see more awesome things coming soon!

[@Ashleyyyyy666]

so glad you're back! i've been watching you for nearly 10 years now, love your content!

[@rschrader]

Good to see a new video from you! Hope to see more- like a tour of your office and anything you feel you can share on a life update. Cheers…

[@ThePowerPCHub]

Alive and kicking my man! Really enjoyed this, proper took me back.

[@HayleyVB]

Glad to see you back Tom, loved the video !

[@jacobpem7927]

Just woke up and there is a new imnc video! This day can’t get any better

[@JamesWhitmore116]

Hope all is well tom amazing to see you back been watching since the start and just moveing house rewatching your old moving vlogs while decorating so glad to see your uploading again Jim

[@user-bi7fk2sf5b]

Really good to see you back 🎉

[@jamesspoerry]

Welcome back to KZbin! Was here within minutes of release😂 Hope your well and looking forward to seeing what’s to come. Hope you and family are well.

[@superdario2425]

Wayyyyyy your back! Over a year ago I got into your videos and Macs/networking, now have a small cabinet and an M1 Air, keeping an eye out for a Mini server!

[@stryyykerh8237]

omg it here - have missed This classic IMNC content

[@inpurgatory]

You'e back! amazing, been waiting for a classic rambling IMNC video for what seems like forever :) Hope you're well :D

[@DirkThews]

I was just looking the other day for any updates - welcome back! Hope all is well for you and yours!

[@Author-CathyGkn]

Good to see you back on the channel Tom 🎉🎉

[@Phambleton]

Been following since 2016, great to see a return!

[@DarkTrace1979]

Happy to see your back. I just got an M1 mac mini myself last month and I am loving it.

[@Paul-Howell-M3EYG]

So good to see you back Tom. Great video as always

[@propjoe1060]

Welcome back dude. Good to see a new video popping up in my feed!

[@richarddcrossley]

I think a lot of people ordered that spec for the higher single core speeds. It was kind of the sweet spot for both single and multi core. Great to see you back on here 😊

[@TechnologicalExperiments]

Great video! Glad to see you back and doing well! Would be quite interesting to see how well windows/Linux would run, along with how they handle the dual gpus, because as you mentioned mac os/app support probably won't be around for much longer for these machines.

[@curtisss]

I remember you excitedly opening your mac pro way back when you were still in school, then I remember the 17inch MBPRO you had for school and afterwatds you went to college and you were in the band. Hope you and the family are well, nice to see you back!

[@doggoli]

Awesome to see you back Tom! I just managed to get my first ever Mac Pro recently, it's a 2,1 but it's been upgraded to hell and back so I'm really enjoying it! Especially with my 20inch Cinema Display :)

[@THEPOWER99FM]

Holy shit IMNC the Man the Myth and the Legend is back after a year of no vids. I have to grab a meal of subway and lots of snacks and be gone for an hour watching this and snipping some beer.🤟✌️👍🤘❤️❤️❤️💕🤝✌️👍👍🤘🤟🤟❤️❤️

[@awesomeguysuncle]

Imnc in my sub box am i dreaming? Love the videos tom, definitely watching this whole thing

[@hatsuneadc]

I've sporadically watched you back in the days. I'm glad you're still doing well. Thank you for uploading!

[@davidhepworth3956]

It's great to see you back on KZbin, Tom! The 2013 Mac Pro is a very nice machine in terms of it's design. As someone who collects lots of vintage PowerMacs including several G4 Cubes I would love to own one of these to sit next to my Cube as well as a Mac Studio as the Cube is my favourite desktop computer design of all time apart from this beauty. It's incredible to see the D700s outperform the M1 Mac Mini, a consumer grade Mac which cost £699 when new compared to a machine that could have easily cost up to £5,000 for this configuration even though it's 10 years old. I'm glad to see that you'r all doing well and hope to see many more videos from you. This will always be a piece of history even though many consider it a failure compared to the old Cheesegrater.

[@evbear561]

Welcome back! It’s crazy how the time flys, I still remember when you got your 2013 MacBook Pro and how much we have all grown! I would either sell it right way and buy a cheaper one in the future when they drop OR Fully upgraded it with 128 GB ram, 12 core etc and see if their is any big improvements!

[@Fatblokeonamoped]

It's like you've not been away. Great to see you back.

[@vinceremedy]

Welcome back, we’ve all missed you, great comeback vid, hope the family are well, keep it up 👍🏼

[@h.b.5577]

Great to see you around again and covering this all so flawed yet iconic machine.

[@ThatTechLife]

Yes! So happy you’re back!

[@dustinschings7042]

Tom, I am just thrilled to see you again! So glad you're still invested in the channel. I would say go for upgrading the CPU and storage. You can use a small $15 adapter and then install an NVMe drive. 12 Core CPUs are out there begging to be installed in your MP! And yeah, that extra 32GB of RAM would be cool to see in there too! I hope you are able to get a few more videos out this year, but I know being a father of little ones takes up a LOT of time. :)

[@fane991]

Thank you Tom for not quitting KZbin! Love your vids, hope you''ll have a looong stay here! Cheers man! :)

[@marksapollo]

Seriously glad to see you though as I was beginning to think are you Ok? Has something bad happened.. thanks for uploading the video.

[@danielfern89]

Wow Tom! I’m so pleased you’ve uploaded! Your videos just have something special about them that nobody else’s quite manage to have! I’ve got a trash can and use it almost every day! It’s been upgraded to 64GB of ram and the 12 core Xeon. It runs Logic Pro X and the Komplete Suite really really well! Mind you I don’t use it for work, just for fun stuff but still, a solid little machine!

[@Diegotheartist1]

I’ve been waiting for this machine to be on KZbin since the Insta post. I thought you gave up at one point, but of course busy family life does take over. I’ve watched your vids since 2011 and your vids have changed my life! it’s been a while! :)

[@lukefilewalker9454]

Great to see you mate, miss your wonderful content. Love the video!!! Cheers!

[@sxkcb]

What a surprise, glad to see you're still uploading after all this time! I hope you're well! Cheers from France

[@Nathan-rn8yg]

Good to see you're still creating content when time permits, hope to see more soon Tom!

[@NeptuneSega]

Welcome back dude! Missed you so much! hope everything is going well mate

[@leeharveydarke]

Watched this on my 6 core D500 model with 32GB/512GB SSD - picked it up from CEX about 6 months ago (for less than £400) as a daily driver and for Lightroom. Have to say its my favourite computer of all time (my first was a Spectrum 128K +2 back in 1988) and it really is a hidden gem if, ironically, you're not too much of a Pro user. If I upgrade now it'd have to be a Studio to make it a worthwhile investment. Really great to see you back Tom!

[@WrestlingFace]

Welcome back fella 😮😊

[@DavidSpector]

Great video Tom. Glad to see you back

[@jamiecullen9075]

Great to see you back Tom! Hope to see more videos from you soon

[@bobfromsoireegames4309]

What is this? My favorite techtuber returns with my favorite Apple Mac of all time! What a day! Crikey!

[@centerhead01]

Welcome back Tom!!! This made my weekend!!

[@AsherLikesPizza]

hey! i'm also an albino, i came from your "how to digitise vhs tapes" video, even though i already knew how, i just found you very interesting, i hope you have a great day!

[@AVGgamer87]

Great to see you back, hope all is well with you and your family!

[@samuelgosling2000]

Just what I needed today a new imnc video, been too long my dude hope you are well

[@Catchgate]

Great to see another video!

[@comedyash]

Absolutely awesome to see a video from you!!! The other day I rewatched the Retina Macbook Pro vids as I finally got my hands on a top of the line 2015 model to give to my mum. I remember watching the keynote back when the the Mac Pro 2013 was announced "Can't innovate anymore my ass!" what a crazy machine. Would be interested to see a newer unsupported OS installed if you have time to tinker, I doubt its as simple as 'LeopardAssist' these days haha. Hope the family is well and life is good.

[@Da532]

I’ve been waiting for an IMNC video! Checked your channel last month and was proper disappointed. Welcome back 🎉

[@speedyc88]

Nice to see your uploading videos again. All the best

[@welshtony1]

OMG YOUR BACK. Welcome back Tom, been hoping to see you back.

[@welldrummer19890]

long awaited welcome back this is well needed :)

[@Capt.Marco-Hawk-L.L.A.P]

So happy to see you back... I was worried about you and your family, I hope you all are well

[@Holdeenio]

Have missed your content, welcome back!

[@kylemag1139]

I miss seeing your videos so much! I just recently realized I have been watching you for 10 years!

[@mikiotty]

Hey Tom, welcome back! Missed your videos a lot!

[@vaelfonia]

You're back! Looking forward to watching the full thing :D

[@zawacchi]

You’re back!!! So glad to know you’re safe & well.

[@nixlad]

Love you man, you've been my favorite KZbinr for 7 years. Hope you are doing great!

[@benbranca]

...AM I DREAMING?! PINCH ME! Welcome back, Tom :) Glad to see you back!! I love these little Mac Pros, they're so unique. I considered getting one to replace my aging 2008 Mac Pro that I'm running as a home server but they're still surprisingly expensive. I'm hoping a 2012/2014 Mac mini will cross my path in the coming months because the 2008 Mac Pro is really, really starting to show its age.

[@timodings]

Awesome to see a video from you every once in a while remembering the 'good old times' when we were all nerding out on PowerPC Macs! I see the 2013 Mac Pro as a very important Mac in Apple's history. It failed miserably and I think it was ahead of its time. How much better it would have been with Thunderbold 3 or 4! And in the end I think Apple themselves learned a lot from that machine. The problem was, there wasn't really a possibility to seriously upgrade it over time because of heat envelopes. I am pretty sure, that if the redesign wouldn't have happened, we also probably wouldn't have gotten the Mac Studio, which is probably the greatest desktop Mac of all times in my opinion besides the Mac mini, which is back to good since the M2 Pro exists. The old times of big tower Macs for everybody, who is a bit of an enthusiast, are gone and in my opinion also not really needed anymore today.

[@ItsMyNaturalColour]

Lots of good stuff here. I will definitely be making another video covering some of these points.

[@findursol]

Oh my gosh! Tom!!!! So freaking happy to see you uploading again.

[@MattsTech]

I’ve been watching your channel for probably over five years now, and man, it was awesome to see that notification that you released a new video. Obviously family and other personal life things are more important than KZbin, but it’s nice to see ya on the platform again! In regards to the Mac Pro, I’ve always wanted to get one myself. With the prices they’re at now, they’re not the *worst* deals anymore. It wouldn’t surprise me if I got one if it became a daily driver Mac. With them being unsupported though, it does make me wonder how well they’d run Ventura, since they can be patched to run it. 🤔

[@80retrodude]

Welcome back good to see another video ❤

[@bashtesseract4629]

🤩 I was stunned when I saw that you dropped a massive, detailed video. I had some work to do but well… there are more important things 😉. I would like to have one someday but I will wait until it’s not pricey anymore. Happy to see you back !! 🎉

[@michaelwincott]

Great to see you back, Tom. Hope the family are all well.

[@tylerk4254]

Glad to see you back!

[@rythomasyt]

He’s back! Missed you Tom. Hope you and the family are grand. Glad to see you upload!

[@PaulMellorsPlays]

Great to see you post a video :) Hope you and the family are doing great.

[@j4eni]

Great to see you back :) Greetings from Germany to your entire family mate!

[@photo_n_art]

Great content as always Tom, thanks! 😎👍

[@moelassus]

Welcome back! Imagine my shock when I saw a new IMNC video in my notifications.

[@Bobthefinesser]

Been watching since you unboxed your Flower Power iMac G3. Glad to see you back Tom!

[@colinwebster6700]

Great to see you uploading again

[@Arcadium1177]

really happy to see you upload again 😄

[@richdaley9982]

Thanks for this! Great video! I just bought a "trashcan" Mac on eBay so like most nerds I am watching lots of videos about it as I wait for it to arrive. I bought it for a pretty simple reason. I work remotely and use remote desktop to control my cloud based Windows PC for work so I do not need anything super powerful but I also like to use a triple monitor setup, two for my work machine and one for podcasts, music, videos etc. I currently do this with a Ryzen based Windows PC but I discovered while travelling and using an old Mac Mini how convenient it is to use iMessage and Facetime on the host machine while I worked. The problem is the Mac mini only supports 2 monitors without resorting to janky or expensive usb to hdmi adapters. Major first world problems! I bought the Mac for $240 usd. It is the mid tier model with the 6 core processor and D500 graphics but has been upgraded to 64 GB of RAM. I feel like I got a pretty good deal. Most are going for more like $275-$300. If it doesn't work out as my daily driver, I might use it as a Plex server.

[@HotelUser67]

OMG I was SO excited to see you made a new video!!!

[@Tech_NO_Tech]

I am really happy for your return. Continue the good work. 👍👍👍

[@ashleycox432]

"what is up everyone". Man it's good to hear those words on this channel again. Welcome back Tom. Hope you and family are doing well!

[@ItsMyNaturalColour]

Thank you, Ashley! We're all great. Hope all is well with you my friend.

[@skylarmyers1220]

Love your videos from Pennsylvania USA. Been watching you with my dad for years!

[@danielrhodes7594]

Glad to see you back. I have missed your videos. I guess you have been really busy with life.

[@DirectorDeek]

YAY! glad you are back!

[@ORIOLESFan02]

TOM! I'M SO GLAD YOU'RE STILL HERE! When I saw the notification, that made me super happy. Much love from the states :)

[@LittleLion93]

So glad to see you again!

[@UltraDoug]

Wow so good to see you, brother! So glad you’re doing well. 😎👍🏼

[@club1992]

Good to see you back mate!

[@snapsbyiry]

Yeees, hello and welcome back 🎉😊