2013 Sonata Rod Knock Engine Failure Repair Part 1

[@FortMetallica]

THANK YOU FOR THIS VIDEO. Hyundai refuses to replace my 129K miles 2.4L theta 2 out of my 2015 Hyundai Tucson "GLS" (VIN comes up as an SE, that's BS, but my GLS does have a 2.4L confirmed). I knew from the beginning ever since I heard this noise and notification of the lawsuit (both occurred a week apart!) that it was a rod bearing, because it's on the bottom end and doesn't have a pattern of knock. Sounded hollow but deep enough to assume a rod knock of some sort. At first I thought timing chain slap, but all of my timing chains have never failed, not even on my 1960s Mercury(s) still in service. Then, I thought the valves needed adjusted. Stalled my car even on a cold start! However, I was able to turn the key and start right up at that intersection, thank Jesus. I'm going to be using your video as a guide to fix my likewise issue because NOBODY has any good videos or explanation to this farce! Including Hyundai, themselves. I hope you are able to keep driving this car, but far enough to never consider buying a Hyundai ever again like myself!

[@gentlemen777]

I like people like you honest and he knows what he doing

[@duytuanbme]

I own a 2012 Sonata and am aware of this issue. While I love my car and it's still running perfectly fine, I hope the engine will never knock and leave me stranded. Thank you for taking time to film the whole process Jerry, looking forward to Part 2!

[@startube2788]

is your car made in US?

[@ZynovFTW]

Yo shit gonna blow up regardless lol. Lifetime warranty on engines for everyone

[@justinkredible33]

@@startube2788 🤦🏽‍♂️ all Hyundai’s are made in Korea bud.

[@startube2788]

@@justinkredible33 no. They also have factories in USA, Czech Republic, Turkey. Search on google

[@johnfranklin5277]

@@justinkredible33 Hyundai has a huge plant in Montgomery Alabama, and has been building cars and Suvs there since 2005....

[@rickmurray442]

I like this guy, he has the same look as all us Hyundai owners. 🇦🇺

[@roundtownitsolutions4380]

Thanks for sharing I have a 2014 with 159000, mine had this exact issue. I am watching your videos and planning to check the Solenoid. I am not sure about the oil pan and bearings but your video is giving me confidence that it can be done.

[@basoncivicsi]

I work at a dealership in NC and we have replaced engines under warranty with way more than 200k miles. Hyundai Motor America will replace many engines at no charge. Its really up to the particular dealership to seek out the assistance from them for you. If they wont help you its probably the dealership not doing their part to get you some help.

[@roundtownitsolutions4380]

@@basoncivicsi Hyundai finally agree to replace my engine. It is back alive.

[@ilanpro]

They replaced my engine under warranty with 142k miles

[@Vistrus]

My 2016 Sonata with 93,323 has the same issue and eventually threw a rod. They're replacing the engine and giving me a rental (it could take months to get a new engine apparently).. Sucks that yours was over the warranty period

[@williegarland8888]

Not only what the guy said about making sure that the oil passage in the crank needs to be verified clean and not blocked but if a bearing spins in a con rod bore, the cap has been heat treated. This changes the steel crystalline structure of the metal (not for the good). Plus the bearing bore has been machined larger by the process of the bearing spinning in rod bore. All that said to tell you that the number one rod is trash.

[@startube2788]

The discoloration of that bearing suggests it got overheated. This means the oil flow to that bearing it is restricted somehow. You need to clean that engine inside very good, it could be that the oil passages to that connecting road are filled with metal debris or something, because in the factory these engines were not cleaned good enough. Maybe the machines responsible for cleaning the engines inside didn't do their job well.. The made in Korea ones, which they ship to Europe, don't seem to have this problem.

[@horaciomartinez2915]

He said they ran it dry, but yeah if it was filled with oil you'd have to look as to why it wasn't lubricating

[@kitrocks8058]

I have a 2013 with 78,000 miles and like many I am aware of the engine issues but after following your videos on this car I’m really worried what will happen to mine once it’s over 100,000 miles

[@JrZCarZ]

I'm not trying to scare anyone off of these cars cause honestly I do REALLY like it. The issue is I'm not the original owner so I don't know how well it was maintained before I owned it. The biggest thing to do is watch the oil level like a hawk. If you get to consume more than 1qt/1000 miles, take out to the dealer to get them to warranty replace or repair the engine. Im Hong to have it all put back together by Memorial Day.

[@kitrocks8058]

JrZ CarZ well so far mine doesn’t seem to be eating oil, and I know your not making these videos to worry people I’m just like that by nature, but like you I wasn’t the original owner I got it at 40,000 miles so I don’t know everything about the car. Just recently too I found out that my friends 2010 sonata Which had a different engine blew up around 140,000 so I guess my faith in Hyundai has just been shaken knowing that I happened to their older motors and the motor in my car.

[@ZynovFTW]

You're covered still. There is practically a lifetime warranty on these engines. I replaced quite a few of em. All warranty repairs.

[@CodyDoesIt]

Great video boss. You engine looked very dirty no offence. I have a 16 Elantra GT and have the same issue with cylinder 3 I took my pan off and saw scorching but didn't have that much play. I am taking to to Hyundai this week and plan to try and have them cover my vehicle with 116k and an extremely clean engine. P.S. I do 3k oil changes have always burnt oil but I did drive it very hard.

[@datboyluwie1020]

How did that end up going for you?

[@CodyDoesIt]

@Br💔kenHeartGang🤟 had a engine knock softwear update that came out and they replaced it under warranty

[@ZynovFTW]

My guy...should've taken it to a different dealer. Dealer gets paid to put engines in under recall. We replace them with over 120k all the time.

[@JrZCarZ]

I opened a case with Hyundai corp and they said no dice.

[@zabryant01]

@@JrZCarZ you live in Canada?? If so that's why.

[@ZynovFTW]

@@JrZCarZ Shouldve taken it to an american dealer. Dealer I work at replaces them at any mileage and ALWAYS gets them approved.

[@drtrini22]

@@JrZCarZ With my car the dealer is replacing the engine under the warranty but said they recommend a transmission flush, changing the upper and lower radiator hose and changing the drive belt. How do I know if this an upsell or I should have those things done? Thoughts? @zynovftw

[@JrZCarZ]

@@drtrini22 I would say the transmission service would be a good thing to do while the engine is out as it's an overlooked service. The belt should be brand new on the brand new engine they are putting in so no on that, The radiator hoses, there's no need unless they damaged them when they took the engine out. If that was the case, they should replace it free of charge.

[@richardmckibben2384]

What if them jerks made the oil pressure like blood pressure ?

[@skb20537]

Awesome job I also have a 2013 sonata and I have to top up the oil every 3 days. The car has 208k

[@skb20537]

I use approximately 1/3 of quart

[@JrZCarZ]

The oil consumption always concerned me with this car. I've had it for over 3 years and since 71k miles. I always loved this car, so I have to do something about it. Thanks for watching and check out my other videos😁

[@kingpapa8918]

Have the same issue. Where can I get the part(s). A link or links will be helpful.

[@manna5610]

Where is the part 2 video or did I just miss it on your list? Great step by step

[@JrZCarZ]

Here's part 2 kzbin.info/www/bejne/hpTahHqGeN2WrdE

[@manna5610]

@@JrZCarZ Thanks. Looking at a used 2013 just like yours at 242k miles. I'm tempted at $4k. is it worth it from your experience, even with the engine recall.

[@JrZCarZ]

@@manna5610 I'd say 4k is too much with that mileage. But with that said at that mileage the engine would have either been replaced at one time or it's well past the probability of it dying from the recall. It's all about the maintenance at that point. If you can get maintenance records that would help.

[@manna5610]

@@JrZCarZ Thanks for the feedback. just watched your 3rd video. sorry it did not work. I have a2017 Elantra and I love it. A dealer is selling the sonata, still worth a look. I also saw a marketplace 2013 limited sonata hybrid to about the same miles at 3k. I like the price but hybrid batteries are so expensive if they are needed, leaning away from that just for the batteries. love your channel. Thanks

[@JrZCarZ]

Thanks for watching! There's much more coming with my 69 Mercury Monterey project and some other cars and my sister's 73 Beetle I'm working on as well. Just has to stop snowing. Lol That being said, I would steer clear of the Hybrids. If you can negotiate the price of the one with the 242k and see if you can squeeze them to add a warranty it may be worth it. Unfortunately car prices now are just insane..... especially at a dealer who is trying to capitalize on the used car market.

[@horaciomartinez2915]

Hey bud, nice vid. Would like to see how you got that oil pump off w/o jumping timing chain?

[@SpecialPenguinnn]

its not a timing chain just a separate chain to run the oil pump. no timing required..

[@richardmckibben2384]

Hay guy just an idea but have you ever heard the term oil tuned ?

[@faygoschnick8307]

Good on u mate for giving it a go

[@ikechukwuprince5808]

I have a 2013 that is hydrolocked. Is there a way you can guide me to fix it.

[@J_Edits134]

Hey nice video. I have a 2012 2.0t no engine knock what so ever has 110,000 on it. Had it to the dealership a number of times for the knock sensor cause that code is locked in on obd2 when I run the codes. It comes up p0326 solid check engine light every now and then it will go into limp mode and flash! Like i.said I had it at the dealership and all they do is reset the code. Pretty sure the ecu update is tainted.

[@J_Edits134]

Oh when it flashing the code is p1326. My next oil change I'm taking a sample of my oil and sending it to get tested for metal.

[@richardschatz2433]

When you plastic gauge that with the new bearings it should be one and a half thousands of an inch Gap anything bigger it's going to start knocking again 1.5 thousands of an inch is a perfect oil Gap

[@thomastommy1192]

Awesome video thanks for sharing. Stay well and safe my friend.

[@RickySlatton]

Is this a permanent fix or just a temporary fix by doing this?

[@ice44567]

The oil pan is sure a lot easier to remove than the one on a Taurus huh?

[@JrZCarZ]

It's a TON easier than the Bull.

[@robertkadids379]

Awesome job! Just think, Hyundai would have charged you probably 5 hours of labor to do that, plus the tow to them. Looking forward to part 2

[@JoseGomez-zg3tm]

How much did you pay to replace?? Great blog

[@JrZCarZ]

I ended up getting rid of the car the way it was. I had zero trust in the brand and still have zero trust in their brand.

[@ChrisinOSMS]

Pull the vvt solenoids, the mesh will capture the forbidden glitter.

[@JrZCarZ]

Yep, saw that in my other video here kzbin.info/www/bejne/pIKafaGsp82kpqs

[@rayguzman5897]

Greatly done

[@Roberto_Bonilla]

friend like iso to remove the oil pump gear nut.

[@philjerome9795]

Is there a follow up to this video? The bearing looked bad, and the journal was equally bad. I have a friend with a 2015 Sonata, the engine seized, and Hyundai will not warranty.

[@JrZCarZ]

Yep, theres a part 2 and 3. If you check the listing of videos I have you'll see them in there.

[@philjerome9795]

@@JrZCarZ I just watched it. You gave it the old college try. Thanks for the effort. Biggest problem with these GDI engines is gasoline dilution of the motor oil.

[@mikestowe1406]

They have recalls on the engines I take my 2014 kia sorento with 2.4 for engine failure

[@alexberkman1820]

Not on all theta 2 acquired engines. I have a 2013 k oup i had to pay $5000+ for a new engine (used engine with 60k miles) when my engine blew at 55 k miles on the highway. Literally blew up into flames and metal debris flying. I almost died had i not made it to the shoulder as safe as i could.

[@josepasilla5934]

Taking my car in tomorrow to the dealership

[@yourcasualnoob9022]

They inspected my car for free and replaced the long block free of charge with the car having 193k miles

[@drtrini22]

Did they try to upsell you to change your radiator hoses, drive belt and a transmission flush?

[@dougn2350]

@@drtrini22 ... is that really an upsell or just doing good maintenance? In the real world it would be the latter. In La La mind world its the former.

[@mgsdemis]

Did you have warranty or nah

[@yourcasualnoob9022]

@@drtrini22 nop only waited about 4 days didn’t pay for anything

[@yourcasualnoob9022]

@@mgsdemis no I bought it used not from a dealer

[@xandercage5792]

Curious what brand of oil have you used?

[@JrZCarZ]

Mostly Supertech conventional. Sometimes I would get Castrol if it was on sale. I've used that oil in every car I've owned.

[@startube2788]

@@JrZCarZ that does not seem to be a great oil. Good oils are Liqui Moly, Mobil 1, Ravenol, Motul... How long did you keep the oil in the engine?

[@tecno8335]

@@startube2788 don't matter the engine will still blew, it's just a crap product.

[@startube2788]

@@tecno8335 if its a theta 2 engine, could blow up. Other engine series seem to be fine. In Europe we have the kappa 2, gamma 2 engines and they are ok.

[@tecno8335]

Kia makes good looking cars with lots of features at affordable prices. That last 100k miles before pending engine failure. Good looking affordable crap product With a great warranty because it's needed.

[@barbarathomas1511]

I have a 2013 Hyundai Sonata and I just got my oil changed Friday and now my engine is knocking really bad and my check engine light is blinking plus I can’t go past 20 mile per hour

[@LetsBeRealMinistry]

I’m havin the same issue did you get it fixed?

[@softness6934]

Bro me too

[@erichanson9619]

Take it to Hyundai...

[@josepasilla5934]

Me too!!

[@guccipig2782]

Me too. I got a oil change and now I can hear a slight knocking sound

[@swat260]

look how your oil looks like, that whats do the rodknock in your car. to keep the engine safe replace the oil every 7000K miles

[@bwest-yq3uc]

I do it at 5k to 6k. Do not go by the manual or when they tell you to do it on what ever monitor you may have on the auto.

[@alexberkman1820]

Not in the 13 kia koup. Had to pay 100% out of pocket for a new used engine when my engine blew at 55k miles driving 75mph. Literally BLEW UP. I almost died. Lost all power steering and luckily a car swerved from hitting my stalling car when i was merging to the shoulder. Caught on fire. Now i have the same car, $5000 broker, and another SAME engine with even MORE mileage on it. They didnt and havent recalled EVERY make and model with the theta 2 engines. DO NOT EVER BUY KIA OR HYUNDAI AGAIN.

[@stevestaron8220]

Also they replaced my engine but said the turbo was shot , they will split the cost of $1200 which cost me $600. The question is that the oil for the turbo comes from the engine particles from the engine ruined the turbo ? What is the opinion of the car guys!

[@bwest-yq3uc]

Buy a Toyota or something that has a good track record. Maybe a Mazda.

[@tboy10301]

My dad threw a 2011 in my face, it went full munchies on the oil and he ruined thanksgiving dad style under the assumption i had driven it off the lot without oil. Now, the second warranty ended, here we are, folks. Mind you, i found my mint 97 sc i used to have ALONE.

[@JrZCarZ]

It's really terrible how piss poor these engines ended up being. I really did like the car too.

[@melodyanderson3254]

I have a 2016 Hyundai sonata it been drinking oil now it knocking I love my car😪😤

[@startube2788]

what type of oil did you put in it?

[@erichanson9619]

Take it to a dealer bro!!! Let them diagnose it. Not an aftermarket shop! If you have an issue Hyundai may cover it...

[@josepasilla5934]

Me too going to take it in

[@DavidKoperniak]

Hyundai used to be a great company but I believe this engine issue has them in over their heads. They used to stand behind everything and now they are hiding and dodging the mess they created. They know they have a problem and yet they only offered to pay 50% of an engine replacement (after making me jump through many hoops to prove that my issue was not caused by owner neglect). How do you only live up to 50% responsibility?? Have had at least one Hyundai in the house at all times for the last 25 years and this one will definitely be the last one and the end of that streak because of the way they are handling my case.

[@JrZCarZ]

That's my last Hyundai.....

[@ВасилийПинясов-ю7ы]

Грязное масло. Какой интервал замены масла в двигателе?

[@JrZCarZ]

Being that the oil burned out over 1qt per 1000 miles, it basically changed itself. Lol. I would change the oil at about every 4-5k miles, but as I said in the video I checked and topped off the oil a couple days before the failure which was only about 2-300 miles later, so it burned through over 4qts of oil in that time which is horrible for a late model car.

[@robertrpenny]

From here that crank journal looks too worn and should be turned down to accept an over size shell.

[@JrZCarZ]

It was worth a shot to see what it would do. I'll bet the mains were spun as well.

[@robertrpenny]

If the mains spin it cuts off oil to the rods so that has to be checked first. @@JrZCarZ

[@josephg8818]

Lucky you didnt remove that sprocket from oil pump lol its set a certain way

[@JrZCarZ]

The motor was trashed anyway

[@richardmckibben2384]

Idk guy I think you need shimstock to make the clearance

[@lionelholmesjr617]

They replaced my 11 2 nd engine change with 220 thousand miles

[@justinkredible33]

Did they take care of you yet? They lost the class action lawsuit in December and started taking accountability for that GDI THETA II engine. They’re reimbursing everyone who fell victim to the engines going tits up on them.

[@rubenaguero7342]

it's a engine recall, hyundai replaces it free

[@ceciliaroundy2010]

I have the same problem where my engine light came on called hyndai and I’m worried they won’t help me my car is at 112,000 miles please god help me I have payments on this car

[@JrZCarZ]

I know that prior to the class action lawsuit they warrantied the engines up to 120k so you should be in the clear. Contact the dealer and don't take no for an answer. If they say no, remind them of the class action lawsuit and say you want to be in touch with someone from Hyundai corp. Key....... don't take no for an answer!

[@wendydaniel7016]

I'm in the process right now dealing with this. My pig is a 2015 Tucson GLS 2.0L. After back forth with the dealership, I reached out to Hyundai customer service. The guy was really helpful. I was armed with technical data to back up my claim as I work in a shop setting and my mechanics are very helpful to me. Code P1326. Look up Hyundai T3G and TXXM service campaigns. Your car must have had the knock sensor recall program done, and must have the P1326 code present if you wanna be taken seriously. Do not clear codes if you intend to take to the dealer. I'll try to update with my experience. Good luck.

[@NopeToBroke]

Misinformation by a customer service rep. The recall has nothing to do with the warranty. They’d cover it 100%. I’ve seen 2012 with 200k miles get replacement engines.

[@JrZCarZ]

I got the run around from the dealer as well. They were playing off of each other's "not it!" attitude

[@NopeToBroke]

@@JrZCarZ Some dealerships are refusing to honor the replacement be as Hyundai only pays 5 hours for the labor to do it. I got mine replace a month ago and love the car. I did call a few dealerships to get completion estimates, though.

[@boonros9611]

Man I get a headache watching this

[@richardschatz2433]

You probably just destroyed that crankshaft I guarantee you that crank is egg-shaped soon as you hear a knock you shut it off immediately that crank is beat you might get 20 miles out of it and it'll start knocking again you got to take the crank out and get it turned you ran a too long knocking it's like hitting a journal with a sledgehammer their egg-shaped I can't believe you even started it to show this video you ruined it

[@williegarland8888]

Not only that (what you said is true) but if a bearing spins in a con rod bore, the cap has been heat treated. This changes the steel crystalline structure of the metal (not for the good). Plus the bearing bore has been machined larger by the process of the bearing spinning in rod bore. All that said to tell you that the number one rod is trash.

[@pamelavayda9174]

Just look at all the lazy folks they hire at Hyundai then you no why they are having broblems with their cars