2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee EcoDiesel 0-60 MPH Towing Review

[@wsc31]

The best thing about TFL Car/Truck is the real world testing. We get to see how a vehicle will do in the kind of environment where most of us live. How a vehicle does in an artificial environment is fun to watch, produces cool data points and has almost no relationship with the imperfect world in which we live. My sister was in the market for an SUV and taking the advice of her older, smarter brother(me) she bought the 2014 Jeep GC with the diesel option. Fortunately she is happy with it or I would never hear the end of it.

[@dchawk81]

My sister still won't let me live down the fact that I told her Ford Contours were absolute junk when she was interested in them but forgot that same advice* and bought myself one several years later. *For the record, they actually are not junk. At least not in the V6 model.

[@Barobran92]

The Grand Cherokee is just beautiful!

[@yippie6862]

Why would you say after the two slow 0-60 runs that "there is no substitute for torque" ?? The Jeep diesel is all about torque and has as much as most V8's at 420 pound feet and at a low rpm. Maybe you meant to say horsepower?

[@heathk2003]

to put it in perspective .... the explorer, highlander, acadia, enclave, traverse, cx9, pathfinder etc etc don't even have the tow ratings to pull this boat/trailer let alone get 20 city / 28 highway

[@BlakesCars2]

I hope the "new world of cars" don't all have the LCD gauges..

[@weedmastersr]

Diesels don't work so well when it's cold outside. Maybe try this test again come summer.

[@weedmastersr]

***** You can buy one, you just can't expect as much performance as possible from it, during the winter.

[@sic22l]

Diesels do heat up longer when it's cold but after that they achieve full performance. Don't forger that cold air has higher density so the turbo can push even more air to the engine.

[@hunghuge7717]

Maybe in a very old diesel. Anything vaguely modern will just take a little longer to get warm. Petrols on the other hand require a set amount of fuel for a set amount of oxygen to keep stoic so the colder the air the more fuel they use - making power or not. Both diesel and petrol will make more power in cold air but anything turbocharged will have a larger gain.

[@sic22l]

hung huge Actually modern diesels are more efficient so they need more time to warm up. I know because I have one.

[@hunghuge7717]

sic22l Actually no because most have flaps that blank the radiator and a lot use EGR recirc, different timing and some even have electric water pumps which can vary speed. I know because I have a 2011 cooper SD among others.

[@slabsides1]

What I'd be buying this vehicle for is durability and longevity. I loved my 95' Grand Cherokee Limited Edition V-8. It was fast as hell. But I can't give it a durability award because the transmission blew out around 200,000 miles without any off road use. Also, had lots of engine trouble after 150,000 miles. I know thats a lot of miles but I know Chevrolet truck owners that don't have these problems. I'd love to buy this eco-diesel but I'm afraid the transmission won't hold up.

[@gagikusa]

Good to have Andre beck!!!!

[@MinecraftAventures]

Is it just me or the Russian mecanic things isn't funny... I'm sure this guy can speak english so why not just stopping doing that...

[@nickmotsarsky4382]

You're right. It's not funny.

[@NIAtoolkit]

This did a lot better than the Nissan Frontier and the RAM 1500 V6 2013 Nissan Frontier PRO-4X Pickup 0-60 MPH Towing Test (Episode 2) 2013 Ram 1500 V6 Pentastar 0-60 MPH Towing Test I see an SUV Gauntlet in the future for TFL Truck since a lot of these mid-sized and large SUV's are more capable than the mid-sized trucks and some full-sized trucks when it comes to towing (except for the lack of a tow mode, trailer sway and brake control, engine braking, etc).

[@phatasswj]

As a guy who went from hauling his travel trailer with a 6.2 Raptor to a '14 HEMI Grand Cherokee, I'm interested to see your statistical findings on hauling with a HEMI-powered Grand Cherokee- I've never metered it. Also, has anyone taken into consideration the fuel economy between the Raptor and the WK2? You can WATCH the fuel gauge on the Raptor move when accelerating... Literally.

[@Fordguy1997]

Don't forget that the Raptor has 35" tires. That gives the equivalent of a higher rear axle ratio, making it slower. If it was the regular F150 with the 6.2 vs the Silverado 6.2, I'd say they'd be dead even.

[@datlaraju9760]

love this car and the colour looks great and i am a fan of jeep,hope to buy it some day!

[@kimchi1977]

Speedometer and tachometer, not odometer. Good review folks. Ike gauntlet maybe?

[@76carmel]

Roman -- will you tow this GC around the "Ike Gauntlet"?

[@clarda1]

I feel like my old 2001 Durango with the 4.7L operates a lot like this diesel without the drop in hp or tq. 235HP/305TQ from the factory. My 5.9L definitely reminds me of a diesel all that low end and 335tq, ironically it loses to my 4.7L in a drag race to about 90 by quite a bit, but the 5.9L is much better at 100+. I prefer the 4.7L by far.. best mpg ive ever gotten road trip was 24.4mpg, 5.9L gets 13mpg up hill down hill cold or warm, and it rides like a dump truck!

[@sti07boy]

Luv the reviews keep them coming

[@MLogical]

Hi Roman, great review! Quick Question. I recently got a 2014 GC Hemi and I haven't used it for towing yet. Are there any setting that I should turn on before towing or, for example, pulling out a car stuck in sand?

[@ZTFxC]

Best looking SUV!

[@WannabeSS]

That is honestly surprising. Our X5 diesel has similar specs and it tows our 22foot boat effortlessly.

[@WannabeSS]

My boat weighs in around 5000lbs (same as this boat) when loaded and even in the mountains struggled significantly less... All I was commenting was that I was expecting this to accelerate more quickly with the boat behind it. Don't need to jump my ass.

[@ChiefKandiyohi]

Can I just be the first say... isn't this all sort of pointless? This is an SUV with a diesel engine, so it leans towards towing performance, not quick 0-60 times. If you want that, get an SRT-8 Jeep.

[@AJGT350]

Can you make the Ecodiesel Jeep tow the boat up the Ike Gauntlet? Would be nice to know how it does

[@tedhaze1]

were you comparing last trucks with the luxury all wheel drive family suv with an economy diesel in it for what tows a giant boat up to 60 the fastest ??lol not to sure that makes sense but ok

[@stifff555]

классно слышать русскую речь в этой передаче))

[@Mathicuss]

when you guys tested the chevy it was much warmer outside. It lost a lot of of power cause of that.

[@sic22l]

Why? Cold air has more density.

[@Mathicuss]

The colder the engine the faster it goes. In blazing hot weather truck loose load of HP.

[@sic22l]

Colder weather not colder engine.

[@catfishmudflap]

Andre is cool!

[@courtsm3]

lets compare towing that same boat with both vehicles over 100 miles and see the ease of power, transmission gearing and mpg. although the GC isn't exactly a towing vehicle, it will probably come out on top.

[@samjohnson9761]

You might want to consider using the paddle shifters...

[@clarda1]

This engine is definitely more about fuel economy.. same with the RAM 1500 with the same engine. Basically any one who wants a "fast truck" that gets "ok" MPG will buy the hemi (just keep this to chrysler branding for the sake of it) Any one who NEEDS to pull a lot of weight consistently will buy the 6.7, and any one who wants a SUV/TRUCK who does not want to go fast, nor pull 10K+ will buy this. Anything that can get close to 30MPG in this size of a vehicle and still be capable of pulling a decent amount of weight is quite intriguing, I myself would get the 5.7.

[@alexanderyashechkin1584]

Самое интересное, что они понимают что Андрей говорит на русском!

[@luanluan2010]

roman plase do the 0-60 and the review of the Dodge journey

[@MrTrip3ace]

That really isnt that bad for a SUV. Great SUV

[@Treymarqu]

I have a question, is it wise to floor these new vesicles, I mean I have a new Versa, I have had better results when I let the engine and computer hit the sweet cam spot where the max torque is pulling the car much more harder without using WOT, can you guys use a progressive throttle input and see if it yields a better time. I know I have a cheap ass car, but I have notice that it pulls harder when it not floored.

[@1guyin10]

What you are experiencing has more to do with the way the CVT works. With a geared transmission it is only going to accelerate as fast as it can accelerate. WOT only serves to ensure that it is doing all it can do. Whatever RPM it is programmed for is where it will shift. Some CVTs want to hold the engine at max RPM when you use WOT and will accelerate faster and less annoyingly if partial throttle is used.

[@Flaheat]

The GC is geared for fuel economy, not towing.

[@IKhanNot]

Is this motor the MB diesel that's in the ML350 Bluetec? Also, it would probably work in Jeeps favor to throw in a Cummins I6.

[@crazyjdkid]

No MB has nothing to do with these diesels,VM Motori makes these diesels

[@jmmpdfdg]

i would love to see this same test with a 2014 Volvo XC60 T6 325HP :D

[@duvielhernandez2887]

Do you guys know anithing about the failure on this engine about the cam gears slipping damaging your engine ? Because of no key or pin holding the gear to the cam ..

[@arrow0872]

The deal with a diesel is not 0-60 mph, it's roll-on power, usually muc better than gas powered engines....

[@jenkomagic]

What are they doing so the engine only revs to 3.5 grand. Mine revs the 4800 redline

[@megazerg1022]

"Privet" to Andrey from Russia! He has very fun "Amerikan Russian akcent" :)

[@MrMarlon123456]

do the ike gauntlet with the jeep

[@jmc6000]

Man that diesel struggles in a 5000lb Jeep, I can't imagine what it is like in a 6000lb Ram pickup.

[@water892]

I believe they put a different diesel in the Ram. But I'm not positive, you may be right.

[@sic22l]

Ram Ecodiesel does 0-60 in less than 9 seconds at sea level.

[@jmc6000]

sic22l Yes, and I am sure the Grand Cherokee is faster at sea level as well.

[@sic22l]

jmc6000 Based on European reviews it should do 0-60 in less than 8s (probably around 7,5s).

[@TheSadams47]

Andrey rocks

[@pcm7315]

I care more about how the GC diesel pulls up hills and the mileage it gets.

[@phatasswj]

Worth noting, save yourself $1500-$3300 and a shitload of trouble when it comes time to buy fuel and get yourself the HEMI instead. By the way, the diesel is a $4500-$6500 upgrade, depending on if we're talking the Overland or Limited trim, because you're FORCED to get their poorly engineered adaptive cruise package, adding another $1995 to the price.

[@pontiachotshot]

Does this come in the summit package also ?

[@cimpclomp]

yes, you can get a diesel with the summit

[@jacak47410]

at 3:23 seconds that is the same music Eric the car guy uses in his videos for his intro.

[@kirillka6597]

are you his lawyer?

[@jacak47410]

kirillka No just a loyal viewer.

[@Race2day]

Why Anrdrey always use Russian and Roman always understand him? :D

[@toddrulestheworld]

can you do the honda ridgeline please

[@Bmwx5fan9]

Jeep is making Diesel hard to pick over gasoline with the price

[@dchawk81]

I get the idea behind letting the turbo spool up first but when towing it's wholly unnecessary because NOBODY will do that in real life. You guys pride yourselves on real-life testing so you may as well stop it.

[@H-T-Energy]

yeah, diesel has more power and better fuel mileage. Just for the fuel mileage, hybrid is the best, but not good for off road.

[@submitcyber]

Does the eco diesel have a turbo?

[@crashmantan]

yes

[@submitcyber]

okay cool thanks

[@olliejackson2591]

Cool!

[@massepeal1673]

Over 9 seconds ?? No way, i have driven with the GC and he need only about 7 seconds :) he realy cant drive :D

[@lfsracer79]

60 is reached in 5th gear...

[@Digi20]

because that transmission has 8 gears.

[@sic22l]

Digi20 BMW X5 with the same transmission and 3.0l diesel goes up to 75mph on 4th gear. Grand Cherokee shifts early, I think too early.

[@carterkraus2752]

do a vid on ur personal life

[@Universal.G]

24mpg eesssh that horrible for a diesel :-S And ya that price is a ripoff

[@pcasso87]

Needs at least another 30hp and 50 more pound feet of torque.

[@dieselmutt8865]

Now get a Touareg TDI and do this again.

[@shaunrifield8329]

Nearly as fast as the Chevy but the Raptor is on massive 35inch tires. Ford wins.

[@nimlil]

I always liked the Andre schtik, I was actually disappointed when they made him speak english...

[@maratalisherov7567]

Здорово Андрей!

[@jacobmcgraw2]

Now try the touareg!

[@ЭдХакас]

Россия не заканчивается нигде!

[@VitalySokorenko]

Я смотрю в USA Русских все больше и больше )

[@DaveDude]

привет!

[@santopotter]

Once again it shows there is no replacement for displacement!! Big gasoline V8 all the way!!

[@allincamo]

Yep, what I do, I RACE Vettes while towing a fkn boat....come on who buys a damm diesel suv,tows a boat and races. But this same engine is dumped intot he RAM 1500....but they pull a 8.8 @ 60 mph. But who makes this ECO dizz anyway? Have they proved this engine for 200--500k mileage.? humm

[@charliehill8193]

I've been watching Tfl for years. Can anyone tell me the reason for the guy who speaks no English.

[@1guyin10]

Because he's Russian and its fun?

[@letterpool]

the grand Cherokee has shit for gears, and the raptor has 4.10's. if the Cherokee had 4.10's instead of the 3.42s or whatever comes with it (i just know they are numerically low and poop) then it would be a lot better.

[@Dexter_Solid]

Its a diesel, 4.10s are pointless for it, the last thing you want is to rev out the engine like this, higher gearing would actually be better for it, just look at the tach in the second pass, the engine is well above 3000rpm, I can promise you that anything over 3000 the engine is greatly loosing efficiency. Secondly diesels just arent fast, a raptor towing that boat would be lucky to break 10 mpg, the jeep would probably be above the raptor's empty driving.

[@famousmidnight]

+letterpool 4.10's in a highway vehicle meant mostly for fuel mileage and towing, great idea. Raptor which is in a totally different category of vehicles has 4.10's because it was designed around trail driving or off-roading at low-mid speed with low end grunt.

[@LOLBTLOLBT]

exactly why german engine is better

[@sic22l]

It has Italian engine.

[@acrodrigues1]

Italian VM engine with german ZF gearbox

[@stek96]

класс)))

[@danielamanzholov8653]

Лайк за русский голос в американском видио

[@arnoldtx100]

That's the same engine that will be going into the Dodge truck. What a joke that will be!!

[@drdpetrie]

I am sorry but this is plain stupidity. I tow everything from boats to 10,000 lb+ horse trailers and you don't 'floor' the car. Its an SUV. NOT a truck. Whether towing with my truck or SUV I don't drive like that. This is something to tow once in a while. Flooring a truck designed to be a workhorse is one thing. Flooring a vehicle, that is mostly a city commuter, with a large boat on the back is redicilous. No one who tows properly (and who actually wants their vehicle (engine, trans, suspension) to last more than 20,000 miles) would not floor the car or tow like you guys do. You down gear for hills (going up or down). Help the car. Use easy starts and stops. You don't drive it at 80 in the outside lane or floor it to get going. Your fans of real world testing, but this isn't real world. Its not even worst case scenario. This was a waste of my time and I feel sorry for that poor Jeep.

[@prostovanka]

ROFL, Love the Russian guy :P

[@НикитаВасильев-л1х5с]

А можно больше по русски говорить!!!!!

[@rnewman612]

Where is your regular partner

[@ЭдХакас]

The borders of Russia do not end anywhere! President Putin.

[@TheTittyboy69]

jeep cherokee who cares most of us want to see cars under 30K another dislike

[@gitaklu1]

Just because they tested a model in the 50,000 range doesn't mean they don't have cheaper versions. You can get one for 28,000 as well.

[@nateonfireball]

Painfully slow

[@safwanhussaini3381]

dosent andre know english

[@bitkurd]

failarmy music!

[@zafjaskdjf]

That car sucks