2015 Vs 2024 | Paris-Roubaix Winning Bikes Compared

[@bikeradar]

Which bike would you ride- that rim brake Giant Defy from 2015, or Canyon's Aeroad from this year? Let us know in the comments!

[@l.d.t.6327]

Something you forgot: MvdP started on 28mm tires. He switched to his bike with racing number amd 32mm tires after around 80-90K (could be less) when he took a pee break, and returned to the peloton with Pedersen. The one-by hype was strongly pushed by the fact there was a strong tailwind.

[@adamgoodman3422]

Possibly 170mm cranks vs usual 172.5 ..

[@jonmytton]

I bought a 2014 Defy Advanced SL frame and built it up with Ultegra 6800 - still love it, so yeah - that one!

[@silver_c1oud]

Hmm for me, from 2015-2024 interms of "Performance" i think around 5-10% but around 80% to 90% Price increase.

[@bmz1]

As a new road cyclist, I use the Silca tire pressure simulator. If we take the data of MVdP, on cobbles, the simulator give around 3.65 bars at the front and 3.55 bars at the back. It seems to be a pretty good tools if the Paris-Roubaix winner has same values...!

[@bhpalmer]

just got a new canyon AEROAD and it came with Schwalbe Pro 1 TT tires that were thin as hell but fast too and I kept getting tube flats. SO I put continental 5000 GP with tubes inside 28mm tires. So far so good but definitely slower. I may just switch the same setup to tubeless. But I am very impressed with the AEROAD's straight ahead speed but the handling and climbing is not as strong as the BMC SLR01 that I have. But yea the bikes are way faster now.

[@Livlifetaistdeth]

2mph? What were the wind conditions? That's a small enough difference that anything could contribute to the variation in speed. I doubt the "paid advertisement" I mean bike, had anything to do with it.

[@l.d.t.6327]

Indeed, that's the thing that bothers me the most in these apples vs. oranges comparisons: they do not account for circumstances and how the race was ridden.

[@dainiusvysniauskas2049]

~4.5 km/h isn't equal to 2 mph tho. Also, they had strong tailwind in 2015 too.

[@Andy_ATB]

Unlike in athletics, where wind assisted records don't count, cycling recognises wind assisted records.

[@l.d.t.6327]

@@dainiusvysniauskas2049 They had a much stronger tailwind. And as I said, consider how it's raced: in 2015, they arrived at Arenberg with average of 44.2 k/hr and did Arenberg-finish at 41.5k/hr. In 2024, they raced start-Arenberg at 48.4 k/hr and Arenberg-finish at 42.5k/hr. So they raced much faster in the first part, thanks to the enormeous wind. Once on the cobbles they didn't race much harder and still had more favourable wind.

[@Livlifetaistdeth]

@@dainiusvysniauskas2049 almost 48-43.5 is almost 3.5kph which is almost 3.2kph which is almost 2mph, so I'm almost positive my point was made.

[@christianhandel9361]

MvDP has not had any damage on Paris Roubaix last two editions, but surprisingly yesterday he had one!

[@manueldeubler1127]

That TCR is one of my favorite bikes and Dege is one of my cycling heroes. Though I have to admit, I would not like to race that bike over the cobbles.

[@Andy_ATB]

He didn't ride the TCR.....it was the Defy.

[@amitkumar-wj8gn]

Gotta admit, as nice as the rim brake bike looks, watching MvDP hit 60k and above on cobbles has now convinced me that the new age bikes are genuinely soooooo much better. Wow. That speed is insane for cobbles!! If I could pick one for myself, however, it would be the rim bike because I will have to live with the bike on a daily basis :D

[@veganpotterthevegan]

I have a few 5 figure rim brake bikes, one being a custom titanium bike. I don't think there's a single bike over $4500 that I wouldn't take over any of my old superbikes. It's like comparing a $800 phone from 10yrs ago to a $400 phone today.

[@alpsalish]

Tailwind. Did you watch the race?

[@alpsalish]

The giant looks better anyway.

[@KanoKaiji]

Doesnt matter. We dont have his legs or his core stability

[@SJD190990]

There was a strong tailwind this year. That made a big difference to the average speed.

[@aageseljegard8730]

Tough choice - I'll have the new bike please 🤣

[@adamgoodman3422]

* MVDP cockpit is a CP0015 with a negative stem vs 0 for the aCP0018

[@Andy_ATB]

The P-R tech isn't as interesting as it once was; full on aero bikes, with wider tyres...... Aero bikes leave me disinterested; they're irrelevant for riders who ride in the real world, who have to stop every few minutes for junctions. Give me a light bike instead.....

[@alpsalish]

Aero bikes also look ugly.

[@L-Bj]

The speed had changed with the bikes.

[@cyclist2906]

the 5th fastest ever paris roubaix was the 1964 edition, only broken in 2017. bikes in the 60's were also fast it seems. I'd pick johns bike, just looks nicer to me.

[@veganpotterthevegan]

Take a look at that roubaix and you'll see why it was so fast.

[@-Stop-it]

Fastest, by what measure? Every year the course is changed. Every year the conditions are different.

[@veganpotterthevegan]

@-Stop-it 1964 had the fastest average speed. It's still 4th fastest. They had a laughable tailwind, and significantly less cobbled kilometers than following Roubaix events. The tailwind was so extreme that an enormous group fininished together because no breakaways had any chance of sticking. It took some luck to finish that way though because it was also wet but there was no massive pileup to create a huge split in the group.

[@cyclist2906]

@@veganpotterthevegan my point was just that concluding "bikes have become so much faster" as they did in the video by comparing 2 editions of a race doesn't make sense.

[@veganpotterthevegan]

@cyclist2906 no it doesn't, they're faster and bringing up 1964 means nothing. If you tested both bikes with a power meter holding 200w, the difference would be obvious. Hold 350 and it'll be laughable.

[@jacques-yves]

This year they got a hard wind in the back... Here was the game changer.

[@jarob9255]

mads was on tubolar too

[@hcw199]

Guys are going faster than Lance Armstrong ever did.... Gee I wonder how?!

[@DeCheff1]

Techology

[@filipruml]

@@DeCheff1 in chemistry.

[@NeoPayneHK]

that bike from john defy sl which is kind of one and only legend

[@marccarter1350]

So has the Price. Forcing many of us to keep what we have, upgrade some of the parts instead. Sorry, i don't have 8k for the lastest ride

[@br5380]

Did you have whatever it was back in 2015 to buy an equivalent bike?

[@marccarter1350]

@@br5380 In 20015 i paid 2k, all be it in a sell for a Focus, full carbon, running UDI2 10 speed, ok wheelset. It was not silly money

[@tmoore121]

@@br5380 Bikes seem to be more expensive than even inflation, though. My 2012 Madone 5.5 was significantly cheaper (inflation adjusted) than my 2023 Domane SL7. To compare, the top Madone in 2012 (6.9) was $8700. The top 2024 Madone (SLR9) is $12749. Inflation adjusted $8700 is only $11700. So $3k for inflation + another $1k which is 33% of the difference again!

[@br5380]

@@marccarter1350 and how much is an equivalent Focus now?

[@marccarter1350]

@@br5380 could only find ones similar, starting at 5k

[@arethPoole]

This proves little when you're not comparing the same rider on different bikes. No doubt bikes have improved...however I have a 2011 BMC RMO1 which I've now done over 1.3million VMs of climbing on. I also have a 2022 BMC SLRO1 One. Both weigh 7kgs..there is virtually no difference in speed or in climbing improvement with the newer bike, infact I feel the RMO1 is slightly superior on the climbs and descents.

[@mpvsystems9302]

The Michelin tubs are obviously superior, and I fully I expect we will see more CX size casings at Roubaix in the future, especially among the French teams who are more engineering oriented. Way more comfort owing to a full 360 degrees of casing, no pinch flats, much wider range of pressure, much lighter tires, much lighter wheels, no need for pool noodles that make getting a flat tire off the rim virtually impossible. If the speeds are rising into to the high 40s, why would any team choose to use a high stack gravel frame?

[@thatguy9051]

Why don't the pros use flat topped aero bars knowing they're faster than tube shaped bars?? I can't understand this.

[@richeeg3271]

I think the thinning process was less stiff = more comfortable maybe? I'm not sure either, as a one piece handlebar is also less prone to requiring tightening during the race..

[@stevemccrory9130]

@@richeeg3271 Lotte will back the maintenance bit up. Her 2-piece cockpit needed the torque wrench mid-race.

[@thiscocks]

Comfort

[@a.campos891]

RIP Specialized Roubaix ✝

[@jonathanzappala]

You left out that robaix is flat and they don’t need a small ring.

[@stevemccrory9130]

600m of elevation "climbed" during the race. Not a lot, but its still uphill in parts, most noticeable in the Trouee D'Arenberg.

[@jonathanzappala]

@@stevemccrory9130 over 260km doesn’t get much flatter than that. Avg speed for the trench is 40kph plus, so no they don’t need a small ring for that sector.

[@thiscocks]

There are several uphill parts in the first half where they would use the smaller ring. Arenberg isnt really uphill. More of a false flat. Mons-en-Pévèle has more uphill in it than Arenberg.

[@donjohnson487]

There’s only one reason why there is so many Sram riders using 1x and that’s because of Srams shitty front derailleur.

[@HkFinn83]

The modern bikes just don’t do it for me. They look like TT bikes with drop bars. The Giant bike here was still the kinda bike you could dream of getting as a kid. The modern aero bikes are hard to love.

[@alpsalish]

Giant over that canyon any day.

[@DailyRunRide]

Hello Channel

[@thatguy9051]

Why is the Peleton so SLOW to adopt Aero Handlebars..........Tube Shaped Bars in 2024?? I just don't understand.

[@jonathanzappala]

The opposite, these were one off reversals for Roubaix.

[@maxlloyd3740]

Partly used for grip during Roubaix. Easier to get a hold on over the cobbles. Secondly they are a little more crash resistant which is highly likely at Roubaix. Don't worry they will be all on full integrated aero cockpits when the normal season resumes!

[@l.d.t.6327]

If you ever tried to ride Arenberg with aero handlebars on the top of the bar, you'd know that's not comfortable. Some riders (like MvdP) don't use the top and only use the hoods, but riders that prefer riding on the top will more likely prefer the comfort of a round handlebar on cobbles. On asphalt a round handlebar isn't comfortable, but it is on cobbles.

[@thecatsonholiday5932]

It's not the bikes it's tech advancement of peds

[@tbfilms7040]

"New Aero-Bikes" aren`t aero.

[@tbcyable]

Yeah a bike 20000$

[@jonathanjc1131]

Sram 👎👎👎