2016 Infiniti QX80 Limited AWD Start Up, Road Test, and In Depth Review

[@iiMsH3Lx]

I don't know why every one is hating on this I think it's one of the best luxury SUVs out their

[@noble20xx56]

People mainly don't like the exterior.

[@uraraneida]

Same all these haters

[@noble20xx56]

It doesn't even look that bad.

[@uraraneida]

+Hassan Henry I know right I have a 2012 QX56 and it doesn't look bad at all

[@noble20xx56]

Landon Brooks Lol I don't even own a car. But come on, I think people are blowing it out of proportion.

[@Agent77X]

This SUV has grown on me in terms of looks! I first thought it was ugly looking but now I think it pretty good looking with lots of styling to it!

[@MrCarGuy]

People can hate it all they want, but I disagree. It is the best designed full-size SUV sold right now even after almost 5 years.

[@noble20xx56]

Dayyyum

[@dmitriyl9391]

Don't say that many people don't like it. Many who do like it and drive one just never comment. Everyone's different and we all as humans have different thoughts

[@dmitriyl9391]

This is one of the best luxury and beautiful SUV out there

[@eks9225]

I've been watching this guy for a year or 2 now and at the beginning I thought his voice was annoying. Now I think he words things great and gives the best reviews in KZbin and is charming!

[@Revitalyzed]

Everyone doesn't seem the get it. The LIMITED comes in at $80,000. Your average QX80 isn't priced that high. Also, because it's not German, people think "Oh, $80k for an Infiniti is atrocious" when they miss the point completely. There's a lot more attention to detail in Infiniti products that I've seen than it's competition. Besides that, excellent review Kyle! You're getting better and better with each review!

[@almighty1158]

lol 80000 for that is crazy it’s nice but hell no

[@scottnauman7445]

Very thorough review of the 2016 Infiniti QX80. You did an incredible job showing virtually all of its features. Well worth the 30 minutes I spent watching!!

[@AutoVlogOfficial]

Great review Kyle ! I love the look of the QX80, so unique.. there is no SUV out there that looks like this one :)

[@FlashManinSpace]

I love how understated this car is.

[@cobra1assassin]

Oh, my God! I love the Infiniti QX80. This is the best S.U.V. EVER! It's SUVs like this, I'm going to own it.

[@richboydavid775]

Ikr I just got one, Amazing car

[@user-bf3fc9ec3z]

+Retro Lion enjoy being King of the road in this beauty!

[@oggoldie3500]

how u like it so far

[@freddyk8716]

Getting this truck in Imperial Black color.

[@timruskowski4923]

I feel like I'm the only one who likes this suv...

[@freddyk8716]

You're not... There's more people that like it than hate it. There's many of them on the road but just not everyone can afford it.

[@rdiclst6908]

Tim Ruskowski everyone has their own opinon. Like it, or hate it. It doesn't matter cuz it's YOUR OPINION.

[@Karyabs]

Tim Ruskowski That thing is ugly though the quality should be great

[@Randze]

you are kinda

[@ricardoquijada8820]

No no , l really like this vehicle, with its large engine and it’s nice I️nterior and it’s unique style, or l think it’s unique

[@1AEROSOL.1PUFF]

This suv is drop dead gorgeous , well done Infinity.

[@jonaha.2431]

Idk why but I've always loved how unique and badass these things look haha.

[@DireWolf-ny6xx]

This video was very helpful and informative. My parents just bought that exact truck and because of this video, they were informed when making there decision. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I personally think this truck is beautiful. I appreciate the fact that infiniti avoided the boxy lifted hearse look of the other SUVs in this class. Some people say that its too much $ for a "nissan" and they would rather buy the bmw, audi, or mercedes but if that's the case, isnt an audi just a fancy VW with screens and leather? Plus the germans cost the same or more and you get less for the money with the merc or bmw. The only other vehicles that remotely compete are the escalede and the range rover. Escalade still has some work 2 be done 2 differentiate it between its other siblings and range rovers need to fix thier abysmal reliability.

[@vikk5459]

While everyone else thinks this is all out ugly, I think it's unique and attractive. I'd buy one if I had a use for it.

[@xmsteel]

Love these, got to drive the 2015. Crazy smooth ride and great handling taking into account the massive size and weight. Pretty quick too, I've seen them reach 60 in the mid 5s. People might think they are junk or just plain ugly but you certainly can't judge a book by its cover. This is a dream to drive and definitely better than the Yukon Denali XL which has a comparable price tag.

[@dmitriyl9391]

Obviously it's better than the Yukon Denali Xl.

[@xmsteel]

+Dmitriy K Why obviously? They are about the same price and would assume the same class.

[@dmitriyl9391]

+Adam Hickman I don't know. It's just because there's awful legroom in the very back. And I like Qx80 more

[@phattygi9143]

I took a road trip in one of these, it was very quiet and comfortable, I actually like this car

[@dmitriyl9391]

Nice. I love this car. Looks beautiful up close in reality. Getting one soon. Maybe not the limited, but I'm getting it. This car is sick!

[@chadwickwhite8400]

I look forward to getting one of these one day for the wife as a replacement for her QX56.

[@Kevin_10225]

I personally like this SUV. Its styling is a bit weird but it still looks big and kinda menacing (which I like). What would totally sell me is the interior comfort. There is nothing in this world more comfortable than the interior of a full-size SUV :)

[@severe28]

I love the styling. And yeah I know the interior is outdated but man is it comfy.

[@toolazy2008]

Another brilliant video, Kyle. I'm glad you're doing the test drives more now. Keep up the good work!

[@techavindu]

I'm I the only one who thinks the car isn't ugly?

[@phillipberk]

My parents own one, it's not the best looking car, but it's a nice car.

[@vikk5459]

No, I like it.

[@saabkyle04]

+Avindu Morawakage I think it looks awesome personally. I like the styling quite a bit more than the Escalade.

[@bigbiz800]

it's pretty impressive in person

[@jamelmoore4356]

I concur! This is a handsome and unique looking SUV! Plus the interior design looks to be one of the best in this segment in my opinion!

[@KhrissyDaDon]

Ahhhhhhhhh, Kyle thank you so much for this video upload, I've been asking for this vehicle for a while.

[@Michael88999]

SK04 pls make a video for the new range rover SVO!! can't wait to see your review on it!

[@saabkyle04]

+Michael Shao I already have! That is, if you're Talking about the Sport SVO.

[@ymcmbktb]

It is called SVR not SVO

[@j.cesarbraga]

+ymcmbktb Special Vehicles Operations is a "division" of Land Rover. They make the Range Rover SVAutobiography and the RRS SVR. I believe he asked for the SVO Range Rover review.

[@j.cesarbraga]

ymcmbktb you're right, but Land Rover calls it Special Vehicles Operations (SVO). The vehicles aren't called like that, but you cannot change the fact that SVR and SVAutobiography have the SVO emblem on them.

[@ymcmbktb]

+Júlio César Braga whatever...

[@argwoodson]

one of the best car reviews I have seen. Well done.

[@marlomeyers-barer3572]

Color/Initial start up sequence: 0:50 Steering/transmission details: 2:17 Exterior walk around/styling/discussion/background, etc: 5:10 Wheels/tires/brakes/suspension: 8:56 Engine/performance/fuel economy/dimensions: 11:22 Interior quality/design/comfort: 13:05 Sound clips (static/on road): 15:45 Interior tech and features: 18:12 Rear seat space and amenities: 24:02 Cargo space/front compartment: 29:58

[@ritchiemathews1794]

I just purchased a ’15 QX80. Your video tour is definitely helpful in understanding what I now have. I had no idea there was storage in the 2nd row console.

[@Jakobly]

Jesus that car is absolutely huge

[@Jazzmaster1992]

Saw one for the first time yesterday. In my rear view it wasn't that much smaller than the moving van behind it.

[@Randze]

first time? i saw 50 of these in my life

[@denniskeith1474]

Well done. You did this review with class and excellence. Your work was planned and your editing was spot on.I enjoyed your presentation!!!!

[@310Sole]

i guess im one of the few that likes it. the second row doors looks huge. you can't comfortably enter and exit a tahoe/escalade back doors like that.

[@dmitriyl9391]

The car is made for long road trips for a family. Even the very back is comfortable.

[@dmitriyl9391]

+310Sole the Tahoe or the escalade are not really made for the third row seats. The leg room there is horrible. Exactly why I like the Qx80. It has room in the very back for an adult.

[@dmitriyl9391]

+Dmitriy K yea exactly. My uncle has a 2015 Yukon and I had to sit in the very back. Awful legroom.

[@TingR89]

One of the best years

[@duranamo4297]

Take this before an Esclade anyday.

[@kirbyswarp]

+Angry Whale Coming from the one who bought a new 3-series. The boring,generic Corolla of the upper class.

[@duranamo4297]

+kirbyswarp You wouldn't know a good car if you drove it for 20,000 miles. Fuck off GM fanboy.

[@kirbyswarp]

Angry Whale Not a GM fanboy lmao, just someone with better taste than you. this truck is worse than the escalade in every way. Your BMW is still generic shit whether you like it or not.

[@duranamo4297]

+kirbyswarp "Generic"... Please. Drove a CTS, didn't care for it. You just mad because my car is better than your's? Maybe because I want to drive something that I'll enjoy. What do you drive?

[@kirbyswarp]

Angry Whale Why does it matter what I drive? It's all a bunch of old junk, but at least it's a bunch of cool old junk. Also ATS is the competitor to the 3 series.

[@Theonestrongbusleader]

Still the terrific used SUV for me to buy one. Awesome job with your videos anyway Kyle.

[@billwilmington8284]

Guys stop expressing your feelings about the exterior. Stop saying its it ugly or it looks good. No one cares. If a future buyer we're watching this video your opinions wouldn't change their mind.

[@drewmort7162]

that interior is beautiful

[@juhyungpark8172]

I love this car but so expensive. I want to get used one soon

[@Ghostrider-71]

I just bought the 2015 limited model. It’s going to be a very nice ride.

[@PoppaWheelies]

I bought a 2016 hermosa blue QX80 limited today. I dig it !

[@dlt215]

This suv is badass of course lames wouldn't like.

[@wantapgt]

Your videos are so professional and consistent. Thanks Kyle

[@syeggdg]

I have to say that you are the best car reviewer

[@iheartricers8272]

They mad they can't afford it

[@rael6974]

IHeartRicers exactly

[@shaunegermain]

As always, Kyle, excellent in-depth review!

[@stuartpickles6907]

i wish it was offered with the 5.0 Cummins

[@urielhernandezT150]

No

[@kawasakiwhiptwo5821]

SKO4 first of your reviews I've seen.very informative. great visuals and very detailed.great job. I'll be checking out more of your reviews.keep up the god work.

[@adamchase1517]

This car is stuck in 2005

[@O.G.LIL-MAN]

+Adam Chase yeah, and you dont know cars...nothing in 2005 look like this...ever SUV was blocky and boxlike, and half baked...this is was when SUVs started to gain traction and they didn't have the bells and whistles and gloss like todays SUVs...check your math bro

[@Todd24404]

+Francis Herrera Except the 2005 Infiniti QX56 looks almost just like this....

[@TheSpeeddemon265]

Have you seen the Armada?

[@juliobello4561]

I think the best suv from 2000 to 2006 was Yukon Denali It had everything for the price I still remember when my dad bought his Yukon Denali bad in 2002 for a bargain compared to now top on the line SUVs are reaching 100K

[@dmitriyl9391]

+julio bello in 2004 the Infiniti QX56 was way better than the Yukon

[@pEr5on4LLy]

This guy is my hero.

[@DesertStateInEU]

Lets face it, you have to be a hardcore Infiniti fan to buy this over an Escalade/GL550.

[@visionariable]

No, you don't. It's all about preference. Also, this is a few thousand cheaper than those, so anyone trying to save a few bucks will go for this.

[@DesertStateInEU]

***** Actually the Escalade is cheaper, and it looks much more like an SUV than the Infiniti. Im having a hard time imagining paying $88K for this.

[@CrossWindsPat]

+DesertStateInEu LOL GL is and will always be the WORST POS the world has ever seen.

[@DesertStateInEU]

ap2pat I hope youre not serious. For $91K as a starting price for the GL550, its a very good rival for the Escalade.

[@CrossWindsPat]

DesertStateInEu Well I honestly have no clue how nice the new ones are but their previous models are terrible. My aunt owned a 2004 model and the tranny took a shit after 50k miles. The car always had electrical issues. She stop buying Benzes for 2 cars (till she went back lol, they got money). Mercedes has a history of making some of the greatest motors on the planet but everything else around them falls apart.

[@patrickd3634]

Awesome review! Very thorough, and because if this we ended up purchasing a 2014 QX80. Keep up the good work, and hope you're still enjoying the Viper!

[@Kevinnguyendohrr9231]

I think the 2016 lexus lx is much better than the infiniti

[@Toyota4Life]

+Kevin Nguyen WAYYYY better then this..

[@mikevaldes9831]

Yeah they need to completely update this suv so it can compete with that. The new LX is amazing, but this is also very nice in person.

[@usernamealreadytaken770]

I hate all Nissan's except for the GTR (and Skyline of course). So of course I'm going to be biased. Toyota for life.

[@bokkey45]

+Kevin Nguyen Well no shit sherlock, the LX is a brand redesign new whereas this car has been around since 2010

[@Toyota4Life]

bokkey45 Even before the brand new design the old LX still is better then this.

[@form109]

As my grandfather happens to own a 2012 QX56. I think the exterior design is polarizing at first glance most definitely. But I happen to like it.... thinking the real saving grace is the interior. I feel its one of the nicest in the class.

[@tomar5e115]

holy shiet $88,000 USD for a Nissan! That would be like $150,000 AUD by the time it lands here in aus

[@Rottensteam]

So when you by a Lamborghine you say "omg 200k for a VW"?

[@Rottensteam]

+Rottensteam Lamborghini*

[@AsiSoy95]

Rather get a GTR

[@vikk5459]

It's not a Nissan. Would you say "$95,000 for a Chevy?" When checking out an Escalade? Same logic that the other guy said.

[@Beee00]

About 250000$ in my country

[@TallCade]

a lot of hate in this comment section, my dad works for Nissan and a couple years ago we got the qx56 to lease for a year, usually we get armadas but man this thing was so much nicer. Great ride and so much more comfortable. Looks on this car are all opinion, I like it, looks high class. And as for the review, Kyle, I liked the section when you talked about the 2nd row, with the camera on one side of the vehicle then you in the other, nice change up.

[@jdizz543]

Might as well get a escalade

[@jonasbickford7417]

Jalyn Smith i'd only get the 2007-2013 bc the new one is ugly .

[@Probablyshouldnthave]

i never thought about this suv before but just rented one drove 8.5 hrs and it was so comfortable that i felt like i just drove down the street

[@BCJDM]

is it weird if I like this car?

[@noble20xx56]

No. If you like it you like it.

[@joeantonio2669]

really weird, but it's ok to be weird

[@sk88boarding]

+BCJDM not at all, i like it too

[@dmitriyl9391]

I love this car

[@tyler7169]

Absolutely not! I love this SUV. Such a beautiful design can be found no where else on a vehicle of this class.

[@MatthewMcGuirt]

This car has one of those looks that you either dearly love or mortally hate.

[@heyitsme939]

i don't see how people think this is ugly lol! looks 10x better than that knockoff, poorboy Armada. the qx80 looks like a rich person's car.

[@jazzyjock]

heyitsme you know the Armada and the QX80 are the same vehicle right?

[@giofromtexas2679]

Exactly! The QX80 is soo underrated

[@RegionalRadioShackManager]

Many haters on the Infinity here. Used to work for a GM dealer and this Infiniti, and Yukon Denali are by far the bang for the buck. very beautiful

[@JakobHighRoller]

Fucking tank! I'd still take a GX460/LX570 though

[@rexbry1]

I dont like this car but i like this guy, he know exactly how to reviewing a car.

[@xCkillaxC]

67k is not that bad for all that SUV tbh

[@dmitriyl9391]

I agree

[@xCkillaxC]

***** Uh if you don't make more than 67k you'll be in debt? No...there's plenty of people who make 60k or 55k and live perfect lives. And 67k for a house? Where at?

[@meast21]

looks like the dream car for many joses and juans

[@dangus69420]

looks like a short school bus with chrome lol

[@michaelmmothabi8095]

This car is so nice wow very unique well done Infiniti

[@PreciseVids]

60K 80K? I rather get an audi

[@hamzamaroc1400]

indeed. And i don't even know this brand.

[@NavG92]

idk i think the new audi q7 is even uglier then this lol

[@hamzamaroc1400]

+Juan Lara i am feeling so bad right now :(

[@isaacfox732]

+NavG92 I still don't get why everyone hates the way the new Q7 looks.

[@patrickpelletier6315]

+Juan Lara technically a subdivision of Renault which own Nissan and Infiniti. the F1 cars dont share a damn thing with the Infiniti brand whatsoever (that is unless you consider the badge to count)

[@antioneenglish7416]

I love this truck... torn between qx70 sport q70L and this bad Boi here !!!

[@andrew22334455]

God...... This car is horrendously ugly.

[@fe1diego]

+andrew22334455 lol

[@kma198199]

....it's like that rich girl in high school that had the big forehead everyone was jealous of.

[@fe1diego]

LOL YOU'RE RIGHT!!!!!!!!!

[@fe1diego]

you're profile picture is a old ass car man damn!!

[@maximilianoluera6679]

Those fucking vents though 😷

[@cheffington999]

What a great sounding engine. love the robust sound of a v8

[@DimachkaS]

Interior from 2005.

[@bobsmith9603]

DimachkaS Doesn’t seem anything like my 05 QX56... This interior is much more updated than the one designed from 2005...

[@luca9ccc676]

happy new year saabkyle04!!!!!!!!!

[@cantavukcuoglu4375]

eeeeeeww

[@jimmyngxc]

Ikr

[@StarlightMassacre]

+Can Tavukçuoğlu it looks like a beluga whale

[@trunksdbzful]

+fauxk omg I thought it looked like some type dog but your right lol

[@juicybullfrog]

i do like the interior but with that money I could get better looking Rang Rover Sport

[@mertercankocan9884]

+Can Tavukçuoğlu Rezalet :/

[@kamilzieba7427]

Great bang for your buck. The design is flawless in my opinion, and it will be much more reliable than any of it's German or US competitors.

[@lionbreaker4567]

Ugly as hell. The price of that car I can buy a 2016 BMW or Audi that looks better than that...

[@vikk5459]

BMW or Audi doesn't even have anything to compete with this.

[@BLAZOOR99]

+Reflex Vlog bmw doesn't make buses silly!

[@dereknyc4402]

+Viktor Freesmeier but MB does, GL.

[@vikk5459]

+Jack Taylor (Polodecaso) Yeah, I am. Biggest thing Audi makes is the Q7, which Kyle said himself is not big enough to compete. Biggest thing BMW makes is the X5, which is also not big enough to compete with this. So. Are you for real?

[@qman3249]

+Reflex Vlog rather get a cayene than this

[@milaclais]

People used to bash gm for parts bin across the brands. All nissans use the same steering wheel, old infotainment, climate buttons etc. it was nice years ago, but they haven't updated it enough.

[@saeedm8186]

this car looks like a whale

[@H4M24UK]

Now this is what you call an SUV. All seats up and that boot is actually quite big.

[@THR33SIXX3MPYR]

The most obnoxious vehicle on sale today.

[@1AEROSOL.1PUFF]

It's only obnoxious because you really want one , we all desire luxury , no one ever died from having great taste.

[@InvestBetter.]

The 2018 redesign is coming before the end of the year and the powertrain will remain the same. The front end will see the most changes, with the slight hump in the hood beveled and the headlights raised, and the grille squared. Looks great. Search Monograph Concept

[@888COMPAQ]

Who the hell designed this? WTF Nissan? This is supposed to be your "luxury" brand.

[@888COMPAQ]

***** Then your their target consumer. Good luck with these ugly cars if you ever decide buying one.

[@maximilianoluera6679]

Better than an armada...

[@mikevaldes9831]

Have you seen this car in person? It's a beaut

[@dmitriyl9391]

+888COMPAQ Did you see the interior? If you rent it and see the interior for yourself, the most luxurious interior ever.

[@11jet1331]

I still like my 09 FX35 better. I know it's in a whole different category, but I can't help to compare the 2. The interior in the FX is much more comfy, the steering wheel is smaller for those tight corners, and of course, the VQ sounds godly.

[@Chrisey525i]

looks like a china replica

[@yousifisaq4676]

hey kyle thanks for support

[@SjoerdD248]

oh my, that's hideous...

[@alisaleh4758]

Beautiful interior Infiniti has put a lot of work in interior specially dashboard and leather seats , nice review +saabkyle04

[@alisaleh4758]

+Talford Winstonworth right infinti need to work on better looking front end specially headlights and rear end tail lights , infiniti needs to look at the new Tahoe/yukon/escalade front ends

[@alisaleh4758]

+Juan Lara true this suv looks one if safest SUV on road

[@SolidCopy1]

This is the ugliest vehicle ever made. It's like some kind of horrible spaceship egg. So ugly!!!!!

[@aloosh20011]

+Not Gay hahahaha, he says that to every car, cuz he can't afford one

[@Yorktown_ll]

SolidCopy1 obviously you would say that you can't buy a car 😂😂😂😂

[@PotentiallyPossible]

Happy belated new year Kyle!

[@peruface]

UGLY, HEAVY AS HELL AND ALREADY OUTDATED WITH A DINOSAUR ENGINE.GET THE NEW MODEL X FROM TESLA

[@TheWhitmanpl]

How? The 5.6 in the QX80 is an absolute beast

[@TheWhitmanpl]

+TechGuy322 they don't make the ML anymore....

[@TheWhitmanpl]

TechGuy322​ dude the ML550 had a 4.7 v8 with 402 hp where'd you get 518?

[@peruface]

The Beluga Whale HAHAHAH

[@drjd2real]

+TechGuy322 It doesn't need anything. I've never seen anyone in my whole life driving a gl to its potential so what the fuck is the point of all that useless power. I pass people in c7 corvettes all the time that act like they're afraid to do the speed limit. Big suvs with more liters tend to last longer than someone trying to squeeze 500hp out of a 4.7 liter. Only time will tell if a 3.6 Expedition with Ecoboost will handle high mileage. The Infiniti is quick enough for me. Most sedans can't even keep up with it.

[@blacke.blackerton5430]

I might be biased since I have a blue 2010 Armada, but I love the look and color on the Limited Version of the QX80. I was a fan of the Dakar Bronze, and Mocha Almond, until seeing how this looks in blue. Seen the base in blue, but it just looks better on this to me. I really like the 2015 Caddy Escalade/Yukon Denali/Chevy Tahoe LTZ, but they are everywhere in NYC area, in the long wheelbase (Suburban/XL/ESV), being used as for hire vehicles. Plenty of QX80, but only seen one Mocha Almond Limited. Still overall here GM's big three, Mercedes GL, BMW X5(to an extent), Audi's 3 row, even Lexus LX, are more plentiful here. I would buy this, cause I find it beautiful, and not seen but maybe once or twice a day, and it is usually the same few 2011 - 2014 QX80 Base, and the one 2015 Limited. Don't want what most people would get as large luxury vehicles. This is a beautiful rarity....

[@integrafreak1]

I love this SUV.Also love how much it is hated because you find many others on a day to day basis as if you were driving a Cadillac or audi

[@jasonl753]

Can you please do a review on 2016 Lexus LX570? I would really appreciate it! Keep up the good work.

[@bridgetleigh9353]

My ultimate dream car

[@elijahwomble814]

This is one of the best SUVs made.

[@eddiejackson728]

I just bought one 2016 black with the wheat inside oh my goodness

[@Josh-hv5ni]

Congratulations how’s the truck been for you I’m looking at buying one the same year. Any issues??

[@eddiejackson728]

@@Josh-hv5ni he'll no I love it

[@eddiejackson728]

Did you get that qx80

[@Josh-hv5ni]

@@eddiejackson728 I decided to wait a year until my lease is done and then I truly hope to get a qx80 🙏🙏🙏

[@cpnstbn1266]

Blue with brown rims, you'll be the envy of the block

[@ibidibi100]

sab any thoughts on doing a comparison between cars. that would be awesome and clarify many people.

[@aryapradhanad186]

Please review the 2016 Lexus LX 570, that would be nice ! Can't wait to see it !

[@LegoCrafterTuber]

Kyle, I was watching some of your older videos, and in the Isuzu playlist, there is a Mitsubishi Fuso in it. Just thought you should know so you could fix it😉.

[@garlicbread7647]

i bet it this car still looks beautiful in a couple of years better than its competitors.

[@greggonzalez8090]

Yup I'm buying this suv this summer !

[@bigdoggy6650]

Great vehicle

[@muhammadmsalaam9594]

fender flares aid in down force drag & Infiniti premium Nissan appear to be one of the nicer styles of forming interior door panels sculpts; "very ergonomic"