2017 Ford F-150 3.5L Ecoboost Engine Swap PT 3: Is The One Piece Aluminum Pan Compatible?

[@jdzenab2300]

You guys rock. Brian must be living a dream getting to do a job you love and have your son help you along the way. You know that you taught your son well when he's folding the red towels and setting them aside. Great job...

[@MarioDallaRiva]

Well done, boys! 💪🏼👏🏼👍🏼 The owner must be thrilled. Considering what a new pickup costs these days, this has to be cost effective.

[@Alex-px2mb]

You guys are really working great together as a team, and I know neither of you do much pretending in front of the camera: this is a serious tech channel that's very funny sometimes (because the cars can be!) but it's serious, which is why we like it so much. I *am* amazed by the complexity of the 3.5 DI Ecoboost engine and the electronics just boggle the mind, even on a 6 year old car. I have a 2010 Escape Hybrid and FORScan and I thought that car was complex. But the 2.5L in that car as you know is really pretty simple and once you grok the way the Hybrid really works, the rest of the car isn't that bad. That F150 is on another level. It's not that I dislike complexity - if it works and is reliable! - but at first it rings my alarm bells. I don't think many people realize that you're really a doctor-level mind especially after all these years - with all the details and procedures and background knowledge that you have to apply and do your best to get right every time. Great job and God bless. The world would be a happier place if everyone who repairs cars for a living was as good as you two.

[@FordTechMakuloco]

Wow thanks!

[@Alex-px2mb]

@@FordTechMakuloco U R welcome. I'm going to buy another T-shirt for my brother soon, so go out and treat Alex to a beer for a job well done.

[@emeryhersh8702]

Love seeing your son in these videos! He's doing great!

[@coyotekelly7143]

He will be the next ford master tech!

[@TheDingcompany]

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[@jg6142]

Great job teaching your son how to do it right the first time! Your a great dad.

[@bartsarton2212]

You're = you are

[@truthserum5310]

you're - Good God did you fail 3rd grade?

[@bartsarton2212]

@@truthserum5310 I assume that was directed to JG?

[@truthserum5310]

@@bartsarton2212 Of course.

[@waynerain2372]

Such a badass mechanic, teaching his son Integrity, Honesty...Wat a great influence. Salute-!

[@Three9sfine.]

When the engine turns over for the first time after a transplant like that one of the best feelings I've ever had, 🤙😁👍

[@kylefinken2372]

Cool seeing you work with your son and your attention to detail, helping me be less of a hack 😊😂

[@hoddy2001]

thanks for taking us on the test drive, that was a nice time. i was smiling.

[@robhunter2435]

Smart ass kids...good to see him working with you, great experience for him.

[@parkermahony2381]

Thanks man for the 3 part videos. I’ve got a 17 3.5 EB with a bad lifter and cam with 160k on it. Motor is 5200 and the work is almost 3k. I wanna keep the truck and can’t see putting that much money into a high mileage motor so I’m gonna swap the engine at my buddy’s shop with him. I’m sure it wont be as easy as you guys made it look but your video is gonna be so helpful you have no idea. I appreciate it and thanks again!!

[@Kaylun_UO]

I'm sure your son knows, but man is he one lucky guy. To be able to t learn first hand from on of the best, if not the best Ford Masters. Good job like always, I would love for you guys to work on my vehicles if I wasn't so far away.

[@mph5896]

Agree on the crank relearn and the ghost misfires. I had that happen on an Explorer 3.7l engine job a few years back.

[@2000blackstang]

That truck is very clean for having that many miles on it. Good work. That guy will be happy to have it back

[@luisvaldez6204]

Props to you for working on Fords.. I started doing a coyote swap on my 97 F150 v6 and first thing that came to my mind was "Ford Tech Makes You Loco".

[@travelingman217]

Like father like son! Awesome duo.

[@josephmorrone2660]

Another Great presentation ! Another privileged customer ! Well Done Brian !

[@adamtrombino106]

Like you said, a little common sense regarding that oil pan, saved a lot of work!!!

[@JustMike2791]

You're a good mechanic. I've been turning wrenches for a long time. It's good to see men doing things right and teaching that to the younger generation. Nice work Dad. "That woman did not look happy." I see a lot of women mad at life. Wonder why?

[@kevinb8285]

Great engine swap series, that rusty motor mount would break my OCD brain.

[@mikechiodetti4482]

EXCELLENT JOB! Should be a happy customer, and I hope he gets another 200,000 miles out of it. Of course with proper Periodic Maintenance and help from you, that will happen.

[@christuttle3980]

Good call on keeping the one piece pan!😎

[@tastitas3]

THE ONE PIEEEEEECEEEE. THE ONE PIECE IS REAL

[@m.s.3110]

I researched this in 2020 and learned this swap would work. I never took it on due to my CPO warranty would void. I'll let Ford keep replacing my pan. Its been 50k miles so fsr and still dry. Good work Brian. Im sure many will do the swap

[@ECHOTECHLLC-SUPPORT]

Thanks for the skinny on the aluminum pan to replace the plastic one and block brace on the gen2 3.5! Looks like a good amount of work, but worth it.

[@paulhudgins5120]

Awesome job by you and your son, the Customer is going to love the outcome! Job well done!

[@Thomas88-_-]

I'm so tempted to do the new engine over just the cam phaser fix was worried they would have the old style phasers. But pan issue too. Just go all new and forget it. Love the truck

[@Paul1958R]

Alex/Brian, Great job and video set - thank you! Paul (in MA)

[@smokeskull]

Nothing like a brand new motor.

[@michaelmurray121]

Beautiful job Brian and Alex well done the best of the best.Peace n Love brother 💪🏿

[@renj6531]

i do hvac and even furnace smoke on start up because they coat it with oil

[@jonsvideos321]

Nice video and great work! Thanks for the detailed information on installing one piece aluminium pan on a earlier model.

[@mattomite9097]

Thank you so much for your videos. You have saved me a TON of money and really pushed my skill set by trying more and more stuff on my Explorer. My only complaint is I wish you were around Metro Detroit so I could get you a few frosty barley pops lol

[@ThomasYates-c3s]

Great video. So, in short, with a little modification I can replace the leaking plastic pan on my 2017 3.5 with a aluminum pan from a 2018/2019? I believe ford changed to an aluminum pan sometime in 2018.

[@howardducharme432]

Do you know anyone in the Cincinnati area or Dayton area? That is as great a mechanic as you are and follows the rules for repairs like you. I am very impressed with your talents. I would have been a licensed mechanic for 35 years and I am retired and do not know anything with the new computer equipment, so I am concerned at finding someone, that is a stickler for doing it the proper way as you do. Please let me know.

[@tbom1021]

Great work. So glad to see Alex working with you and learning. Does he have any inclinations of following your path in the Corp as well as wrenching?🤙

[@marksearcy9708]

Great finish up on engine change

[@nickayivor8432]

Love it from start to finish 👍 Enjoy your weekend with all your family around you, FordTechMakuloco CANNY FordTechMakuloco From Nick Ayivor from London England UK 🇬🇧 ⏰️ 15:25

[@lanceripplinger8352]

Such a cool and detailed video series!

[@chrisforker7487]

Excellent series!

[@stefanpuffer]

Picked up some XG12 the other day. Going to use it on the guide pins when I do my brakes. 90k miles and I'm still on the factory pads and rotors, but I'm starting to get close. Maybe another 10k miles left.

[@FordTechMakuloco]

Oh no you want to use XG-3-A on brake components.

[@jiggidyjam]

I was talking to a guy at the gas station that had a new F150 and I was asking him which motor was in it and he said it had a 2.7 and he loves it. He works for a company and that was the second time they bought trucks with the 2.7 they had four of them Had over 250,000 miles on ever one of them and they were still running strong when they traded them in for new ones with the 2.7.

[@russell4370]

Excellent job, excellent mechanic, 👏 keep up the great work 👍.

[@Jason-Pez]

curious why you pull the fuel fuse vs just holding the ACC. pedal down when starting?

[@garytravis9347]

What is the *tink* sound at 14:39 on startup?

[@Jacob1986]

Love the vid!!!! Please keep it up! Can you do more tool reviews? Wouldnt it be easier for Ford to just provide a different ground terminal instead of this oil pan non sense?

[@shotgunz124]

So what did this cost total With labor and everything

[@JohnDoesGarage]

With that kind of mileage on the truck, my guess is the owner weighed the options of investing a considerable amount of money in that truck, or buy a new one. Obviously the decision was to invest in a brand new engine, but I would have seriously considered replacing the transmission as well. You'd still have less money invested than if you bought a new truck, but the most critical components of the driveline would be brand new. Now he has a strong engine in front of a 200K mile transmission. I know it is easy for me to spend someone else's money and maybe he couldn't afford it, but I sure would have tried to swing it. With the body off already there wouldn't have been that much more labor to swap out the transmission. Probably less because there are fewer bolts holding the transmission to the frame than hold the transmission to the engine. Another great video nonetheless!

[@hackfreehvac]

*Man. Funny to think that we could swap a Windsor engine attahed to a C4/C6/AOD in about 4-8 hours just 30 years ago!*

[@gregbuchanan4163]

Great video and good judgement call in the best interest of the customer. A bit off subject but looking for information n 2014 mustang with automatic transmission with v6. How much output shaft movement is normal? The 6r80 has no bushing and is different than what I am familiar with. I am having a difficult time finding reliable sources so if anyone is certain and familiar with this transmission your help would be appreciated.

[@teecuzbruh4058]

MAAAN! What is REALLY the issue that I have is, I'll go and spend 65-75K on a truck, AND THEN have to turn around and spend another however much umpteenK dollars to keep the shit on the road. Fords are nice, I don't deny that, IMO the nicest of the bunch, but even I learned my lesson with a 2004 FX4 screw, which I still own, and now, is "the devil I know" type situation. IDK, maybe when enough banks collapse, these insane prices may come down, but I don't hold my breath for it

[@Ellacost831]

What do you mean by snip bend when you are talking about the new oil pan?

[@a.s.4914]

Top notch, very well done! Thanks for the vids Ford Tech. 👍👍

[@howardriggins4010]

Awesome video, top notch technician. God’s blessings

[@grey5.087]

Brother is it common for alternators to get wire shorts

[@davestewart9146]

Awesome series, thanks Brian 👍😁

[@kyleking1263]

If you can give a input as to how to diagnose that issue, I took it to the dealership they said nothing was wrong with it but it’s been getting a little worse sometimes when I drive it 😊

[@DLRPyro1]

Nice way to do a swap. What was the total working hours involved from driving into the shop until backing out?

[@oliverford9325]

Nice work guys.

[@Jlieg]

That metallic "dink" noise when it first starts, do you know what that is? Obviously it's normal, just curious as this is the only vehicle I've owned that makes that noise on startup.

[@P51]

did you get that pile of sticks out of the bed between the cab?

[@FordTechMakuloco]

Yes

[@richardthomas1743]

Hello and thumbs UP!

[@walterwoods4935]

Another great job guys

[@tbom1021]

Do you have and recommendations for a Dipstick tube for the Transmission (2012 F150 5.0 ) First On Race Day!🤙

[@ElSlickVic]

I have a 17 navigator. I changed my oil 3k miles /100 hours was told that’s over kill. Now I’m doing 4,200-4,500 ultra platinum penzoil with a ford filter or Mobil 1. What’s your opinion on that. Got it at 26k now I’m at 53k in 2 years of having it

[@anthonylatronica5108]

What is your opinion of oil catch cans

[@growlith6969]

So I know that prices change and this video will be relevant for years and the price wouldn't, but what does swapping in a new ecoboost like this cost at your shop? If I have that roundabout number in mind and I come across a deal like your friend there did it may be worth having you do one for me.

[@StarD435]

How much should this cost? Also does ford service provide the aluminum pan now?

[@jamesguralski5156]

When installing the new parts like the turbos did you have to prime them with oil?!

[@FordTechMakuloco]

Nope

[@johnnybegood6228]

Hello: Ford Tech Makuloco, On the 2006 FORD F350 6.0. What is the best Scan Gauge besides the Scan Gauge II Data Monitor? I'm looking for a up to date Scan Gauge that will tell me how I,P,R, I,C,P sensor and FICM and everything else?

[@kyleking1263]

Hello sir, I had a question about my 20 fusion 2.0l ecoboost I commented on ur post about the perge valve issue I’m having that basically slight misfire on startup runs rough sometimes no check engine and sometimes I smell gas fusm and sluggish power,

[@keithbellair9508]

Now knock on wood the transmission keeps going. But i guess its easier to drop the transmission if needed.

[@ossieblackmon6740]

Great video!

[@robertconway3519]

It may have been covered at some point, but did you need to tune, or change the ECM to accept the new motor aside from the misfire relearn? I have a 17 Expedition that would love one of these new 3.5's.

[@FordTechMakuloco]

no

[@nfsking4826]

I need your help with timing chain on 4.6 mod 3v Mustang 2008 passenger cam When i dont put the rocker arms out the cam will flip a bit away Can i put the right cam back in position where it was to put the chain on? Or dosent that work. Cuz i dont want to remove the cylinder head when a valve falls in...

[@thatcrazyfriend]

Got a 3.5 f150 is there any way to disable the transmission adaptive learning instead of just resetting the tcm

[@JohnDiMartino]

Great job that’s how you do a proper engine job. Can you ballpark the entire bill? I’m afraid of Used hi Mile eco-boosts. Only because of the neglect of the previous owner they don’t handle it as well as an NA engine

[@Guillotines_For_Globalists]

Wait until your only option is a high-mileage electric vehicle. Non-replaceable "structural batteries" are already in the works too.

[@FordTechMakuloco]

This was around $14k with all the extras.

[@andrewdvorsky]

@@FordTechMakuloco very reasonable especially since the truck owner took it to the very best shop in the USA! If I lived closer to your shop you’d have me as a customer for certain! That was a great series and I’ve always thought pulling the cab off to do any of this work would result in squeaks and rattles but I’ve ridden in several Ford trucks that had to have the body pulled and they rode and sounded perfect! It’s very cool seeing you and your son working together he has the perfect opportunity to learn so much from you and carry your legacy upward and onward! Would be a great video if you have the time to sit down and share a video about your history. I’m not certain but the way you work and are so methodical and meticulous at your craft I would almost bet you were in the military?!!!?? Would love to hear about your background I’m sure it’s fascinating! Thanks again for all of the knowledge you share here as it’s helped me many times doing repairs and PM on all of my Ford vehicles!

[@JoseMartinez-dm3sw]

Good work 😊

[@matiascardiel1776]

Great Job...I have a particular question hoping that you can provide some insight...I have a 2020 2.7 F150 Sport 4x4 that has been in the shop numerous time due to the same issue. The PCM keeps saying that the Exhaust Pressure Sensor is not reporting the expected value when the engine is running. The code is PO471. The Ford dealers have changed the sensors and wires and it continues to pop up. They are currently waiting for FORD to give them more insight. I hope the issue can be resolved but with every passing day my hopes are starting to fade. Any insight on what the issue may be?

[@jordansims2208]

I have a question, does engine failsafe mode have anything to do with phasers and timing? Dealership flashed my pcm after replacing the throttle body but it didn’t clear anything. Now they are telling me I need a timing job.

[@tlak]

Taking pictures before tearing apart would be good, and marking the tire with tape or something to the floor to roll under carriage back into the same place. And with Ford making this cab off idea you would think a lot of quick disconnect items. Like unplugging the A/C.

[@tdogj2084]

no ____ given by those at the top for that!

[@philipmackin1025]

Good advice

[@hectorcardenas6616]

Hi, Mkuloco we are using a very old program called svci j2534 I have a question about the program svci j2534 First question the license is for only 30 days unregister. 2 questions about how I can use it again after 30 days without cleaning the whole computer. you can remove the program and install it again but doesn't work. what needs to be done is to clean the whole computer RESET back to brand new again is a lot of work but it does work. The question is do you know any other way to avoid any registry tool or registry magic.

[@jamesbeemer2477]

Is there a recall for 2015-1017 engine oil pans

[@razbuznik]

Hi Brian - did you change your mind about replacing the motor mount(s)?

[@FordTechMakuloco]

Huge backorder.

[@Tjaeger68]

Im looking at buying a 2019 F 150 king ranch with 3.5. couple questions, what are the areas I should look at and should I negotiate with engine swap in the future ? I am finding them around 44k with 60-70k miles. What would you recomend.

[@MrLatex-fk9rj]

Hey FTM, been watching your channel for a while and love all the content you put out; however, I have never seen a video addressing the problems with 5.0 engine ticking, which seems to be a common problem with all of them. I have a ‘16 F150 that ticks like a diesel going through drive throughs, seems to only happen at idle. As a ford expert, I was wondering if you know what causes this noise and I’m wondering if there’s something I should replace now before the engine goes kaboom. Thank you, be blessed.

[@keithbellair9508]

From what ive read its nothing to worry about… in fact some ticking is normal… its actually the normal sound that the direct injectors make…

[@ghostwrench2292]

There are several TSB's on Coyote ticking noises at idle stating that the noises are normal.

[@alaskacanoe6837]

can you let us know where you get your replacement engine? I have a 2017 that needs a new engine and need it shipped to Alaska , thank you

[@FordTechMakuloco]

I only get them from Ford. These are all new not reman which is best.

[@TheGooch2112]

How much is an engine replacement??? I have a 2016 3.5 ecoboost. I also have a transmission shudder

[@markbulva4188]

I wish the shop I had put my bd manifolds and new turbos and stuff woulda lifted the cab on my 14 instead of racking up a brutal labor rate and then saying how tight it was to the job

[@nope_not-showing-my-name]

Can this be done with a 2.7 (change 1st gen to the 2nd gen on 2017 due to oil pan leaks)?

[@justinweavers2781]

Hey love your videos!! Actually my uncle and family friend love your videos too. They work at an automotive shop that has been in build for 40 years and they are the only ones i trust to work on my vehicles!! My question to you is should i try and replace rollers on my 2005 f150 5.4L it has 415k miles on the original engine? Would it be worth it, would it help give the engine some extra life? I want to keep this truck running as long as possible and will likely get a new engine for it when this one goes. I have a slight ticking noise, that is loud when the engine first starts and then fades with idle. You can still hear it when it’s idle but it isn’t as loud as when it first starts up. It’s been doing it for a while a, over 10k miles at least and has never gotten louder or worse from what i can tell, possibly exhaust leak? Not sure hoping you can help thanks!

[@mph5896]

If its ticking and its in the valve train, take it apart and fix it. A bad rocker will eat the cam, and could cause even catastrophic damage.

[@TRAVIS-L]

Hey on a 1998 ford explorer 4.0 sohc do you have to drop the transmission to replace a Turbine Input Speed Sensor

[@mikejones-vw6hq]

If it's a 4R55E/5R55E which is most likely the trans in a 98 model the input speed sensor is internal and trans has to be removed and disassembled to replace.

[@TRAVIS-L]

@mikejones-vw6hq thank you just wanted to make sure so I'm not getting ripped off because I couldn't find any info on it

[@Ellacost831]

Also do you have a part number for that aluminum oil pan?

[@FordTechMakuloco]

Video out soon.

[@Ellacost831]

@@FordTechMakuloco thank you, my plastic oil pan is leaking and I have already replaced it once and don't want to use another plastic oil pan for it too happen again

[@MCSOK9]

Any opinion on the 5.0 in 2013 F150 Platinum. Mine’s saying low oil pressure at idle. Oil press sender and pigtail has been replaced. Thanks for any input

[@ghostwrench2292]

I would hook up a mechanical oil pressure gauge to compare what it says. If the mechanical gauge shows low oil pressure as well, first verify your oil level is correct. If oil level is correct with low oil pressure, you may have a base engine issue - not good. If the mechanical gauge reads normal oil pressure, then there is a problem with the sender circuit.

[@MCSOK9]

@@ghostwrench2292 mechanical gage indicates the engine oil pressure is weak. I guess it’s hello new engine at 190K miles

[@ghostwrench2292]

Before you condemn your engine, I’ve got a final check you could do. Remove your oil pan so you can access your pick up tube. Remove that and check the O-ring where the pick up tube feeds the oil pump. If that is dry, brittle or other wise damaged it can prevent the oil pump from being able to suck oil from the oil pan efficiently - like when you try to suck from a straw with a crack in it. To be honest, I have not seen this on Ford engines (4+ years in a Ford dealership) but on higher mileage Volvo engines, it was fairly common to find worn seals on the pick up tube feed to the oil pump when a customer complained that the low oil pressure warning came on at idle.

[@MCSOK9]

@@ghostwrench2292 Well thank you for your advice and I will see about removing the oil pan when I get home next week

[@ericjohnstone910]

hi wonder if you could help i live in the UK I have a 2017 ford edge built for the uk market i would like to install a telematics module the issue is we didt start getting tcu untill 2019 over here and they work on the can bus hs4 witch go via gateway module pins 6&7 the older version work on hs3 witch i cannot find in the uk could swap out the gateway module from my 2017 edge and fit a 2019 gateway module to get hs4 or is there a differance in them and would it cause problems i bought a ford edge wiring diagram manual from the USA for a 2017 and 2020 edge and the only differance i can see are all can bus wiring go into gateway module as they would on obd connector please could you help me with this issue thanks eric

[@bobomomo3764]

Battery Voltage is at 12.7 (engine on) but goes up to 13.7 when ac is on ( cooling fans at high speed). Then back to 12.7 gradually when fans start to slow/ stop [ Ford fusion 2014 2.5L 】 Can this be normal? Please guide me to the proper direction 🙏 No BMS used, instead a battery current sensor and voltage battery and desired voltage are always matching even at 3000RPM

[@evanlebaron9465]

Is this the newest year engine in a 2017?

[@pfsantos007]

Random unrelated question since I'm hoping if anyone then you may know. How do I tell if an '09 Focus has ESC? It has ABS but what clues mean it also has the stability control? Can't find reliable info on the net. Edit: need to know to get proper brake master cylinder.

[@michaelminauro4180]

Good stuff