2017 Porsche 718 Cayman S Car Review

[@24bergman]

After seeing this video I don't know if I'd spend more than double on the 911. 718 is plenty of car and at $82,000 fully loaded a good value in that category.

[@ekansh8959]

Mitch B go with the Cayman

[@bentley9249]

read my comments above, it will save you 200k

[@femiabiodun911]

Actually, me too. I'd watched over 100 videos on the 911 but I've finally made up my mind. Going for the 718 Cayman S

[@DrivenCarReviews]

If you like this Porsche 718 Cayman video, you may want to check out the 2017 911 Turbo S piece- kzbin.info/www/bejne/iHakoHqAga6gpLM Also, check out the Audi TT- kzbin.info/www/bejne/poHQhZyFiJWrrLM

[@RogerBaileyOnCars]

Love your videos

[@ryancase8858]

Driven Car Reviews on

[@thebrownguy79]

Honest review! I love when you mention some obstacles you have to over come & slight issues you come across on your videos. It adds a personal touch that makes your videos enjoyable to watch.

[@iansmith8263]

except that its supposed to be a car review, not my difficult day at the office.

[@elhussaingamal3513]

your effort is appreciated tom, u r one of the greatest

[@benjaminduran2803]

Just discovered your channel via this review. I love your review style. I like that your presentation doesn't come off as a fact sheet about the car, but there is enough statistical information without becoming overwhelming. Keep it up!

[@DrivenCarReviews]

Thanks Benjamin, always trying to improve. Cheers! TV

[@inspiration_5877]

Why does everyone hate on it? If a Cayman or Boxster is slightly different than 911 everyone goes apeshit ballistic. This is actually a car I consider buying in a 5 years after letting depreciation do its trick. And, I love Boxer engines and this is one hell of a powerful 4 Cylinder. 200-300 horsepower just from the engine. The car is also stunning. Why ask for more? After letting an $84k (the one I like after customizing) 718 depreciate, you can get an amazing car for the value. Sure, you may love your BRZ or WRX, but this is a completely different car.

[@jimkillion291]

Interesting comment about depreciation since I usually use that tactic. I was shopping for a '14 or '15 Cayman S to replace my '06 for about 6 months. Finally concluded that given the performance upgrade to the base it was now comparable to the previous S. It turned out that a new base is only going to cost about 5-10k more than a 2-3 year old used S. The new one is on order and arrives in the fall.

[@dr.michaelrichardson8011]

I loooove the fact that the base is now not "underpowered" as people used to say when it had 245/201, 265/221, and 275/213 hp/ftlbs of torque on previous models. I always felt that was enough, and allowed you to really drive the car in more gears than you would on the S model. But, I'm curious to know if having more torque (and power) has somehow made it "less" fun to drive because you don't have to shift as much? If you know what I mean. I have a 100 hp 73 ftlbs torque motorcycle that is more fun to ride on the streets than my 193 hp 83 ft lbs torque motorcycle because I have to work harder to ride it, but working harder makes it so much more gratifying.

[@BenzinioB]

Finally a motor-journalist who is not moaning about the sound and what we've lost with the 4 cyl engines... well done!

[@inomad]

I agree with you Tom. Having also driven supercars an a previous generation Cayman GTS & 911 GTS, If money was not a factor, I would also be very likely to get a 718 Cayman S.

[@ZDY66666]

RS that means you clearly did not drive those cars lol. You are telling me if you had infinite money (since u said if money is not a factor), you would buy a 718S over those two? Just the previous Cayman GTS is already same performance with much more soul and emotions. And there's tons of much expensive cars that are better. You clearly did not drive any of those cars...unless you meant the opposite of what you said. Where if money IS A FACTOR, then the 718 is a possible buy

[@reikidreams9265]

RS I think it would be a tad stressful driving a super car as a daily driver. I thought about it. I decided on the Cayman S maybe a super car as a second car.

[@Baerchenization]

Yeah.. wtf, I just got dumber reading his comment. 982 over a 991 GTS - ridiculous.

[@dlg5485]

A 718 Cayman S/GTS will be in my future. It's an amazing everyday sports car, even at $80k. Compared to the competition, it's worth every penny because of it's stellar performance, exceptional quality and unexpected practicality. As usual, well done Porsche.

[@AUav8r05]

Tom, your videos are my favorite on KZbin. Keep up the great content! I feel like I’m watching a tv show every episode.

[@usernameisusername]

I was watching this thinking wow gorgeous scenery and nice drone shots. Interesting to see you pull the veil back at the end! Interesting touch. Thanks.

[@johnvandehey7002]

Very nice video. I ordered a 2018 718 Cayman Base - don't need the S (or certainly GTS) nor would notice the difference probably unless driven side-by-side. Paid $63.7K for nav/upgraded 18" wheels/entry & drive/blind spot monitor/heated multifunction steering wheel. Nearly everyone seems obsessed with predessor's motor noise - few say, but I will - that it's one of the most premium looks I've seen. I had a 1987 Datsun 280Z, and although much inferior in every way, also was a similar-shaped and beautiful sports car. One other thing, it does not have the style-changing planned obsolescence as with so many 5-year cycle current vehicles, which I truly appreciate. It'll look as good and current 10 years from now style-wise, inside & out.

[@davekirwin3631]

John Vandehey

[@py1211]

If money is no object, I would certainly put that on my top 3 list. Must be a manual though. Marvelous review on my ultimate dream car Tom.

[@DrivenCarReviews]

I highly suggest driving the PDK before committing to the manual. Just saying. This from a guy who owns a manual Miata.

[@py1211]

Driven Car Reviews Yeah that's fair enough. I may change my mind after I tried (when I have the $$$). Thanks for your advice.

[@hixnada8278]

Great video Tom! You’re review inspires lots of car sales! Love the cayman S - but glad it’s available with a flat 6 again.

[@Xtefanno]

i love the editing and the narrative style of this channel

[@jeffrey-f]

i hope you guys that don’t believe the average salary is 300k realize people with that money have higher bills such as more expensive mortgage if they have a nice house, private school if they have kids, bills for utilities in a larger house, more expensive HOA if in nicer neighborhood(mostly applies to west coast planned communities) and other things of that sort

[@vikd4292]

i drive a 991.1 and i love it, the sound is amazing, that being said, i'm one year in, and most of the time I don't really hear the sound, i'm wondering if maybe living with the 718 after a while the sound will just not be noticed as much. I can tell you that I wish my 911 had more torque something this car doesn't seem to have a problem with. Def want to test drive it...Porsche made the base cayman with manual at 55,000 with a 0-60 in 4.5 so its sort of affordable...

[@LordLauderdale]

Always great and very personal reviews, thank you Tom.

[@Reli55]

Good review as always Tom! I hope that the NY Times will provide you more other ride brands. IMHO, you're the best in practical everyday review - interior space, tp trunk test and the like - esp. for those who have family.

[@DrivenCarReviews]

Thanks AR S. I pretty much have carte blanche over what I choose. I do my best to mix it up and test what people are looking for.

[@Peorhum]

Just putting high wall tires on it would likely improve the feel. It would likely be the 1st thing I would do if I got one. The car is enough bling without needing huge rims and having the brakes showing. I would take the better ride for sure.

[@93455Driver]

Great video about a great car. I was lucky to test a few of the older Caymans and Boxsters, the used values from 2006 remain stubbornly high, post 2009 cars have great residuals.

[@randomthoughts1001]

I would just love that stick shift.

[@ilovethatsongtoo]

Hey Tom (or anyone else for that matter). Economics grad here. I was just curious as to where you got the figure for 300k being the average income of a Cayman driver. Would love to see other vehicles if they were listed. Thank you (and anyone else) who might have a link. Great video as always. A hidden KZbin gem in this channel.

[@DrivenCarReviews]

The figure was provided by Porsche. Glad you like the videos!

[@xItsmeFirex]

Average cayman owner makes 300k a year? That seems far too high in my opinion, maybe more like 80-120k.

[@felicitypets]

xItsmeFirex if that's the case, how can someone spend 2/3 of their annual income on a car? Remember, Porsche is a luxury brand. Few people save up such a huge portion of their income to buy something unnecessary.

[@xItsmeFirex]

KidsToys&Stories you can get a used cayman for like 20k less then what it cost new. Also people who buy porsches dont actually buy them most of the time. They lease them or will buy them and then sell them in 2-3 years. Nobody actually wants to buy an expensive german car because they depreicate heavily and the maintenance costs too much after warranty ends.

[@stephenking4024]

KidsToys&Stories correct.

[@apt62]

Depends on where you live, in california 120k you can hardly save any money.

[@cbyrne08]

Expendable income is very subjective, making 150k in IT in California when you have 100k in student loans and a massive rent bill every month is like making 50k in Chicago with no student loans, and in both cases those people are basically broke most of the time.

[@therainforest4314]

Sadly, especially people with lots of new-money burning holes in their pockets, they will tend to lean towards the iconic 911, because they want to be seen in one, not because they appreciate or understand the Cayman's superior architecture over the rear-engined 911.

[@kmartin971]

Stephanie Ann true...but then they went 4 banger. Anyone that can afford a 981 GTS/GT4 or 911 is not buying a 4 banger

[@TheChristzouve]

911 is more comfortable

[@weirdshibainu]

Great review tom....would someone 5 ft 10 inch and 200 lbs be comfortable in this?

[@PatrickChukwura]

Yes. I am 6'2" and 185lbs and I have a 2014 981 Boxster and fit perfectly. I've done a couple 6 hour road trips between SF LA and didn't feel any more fatigued vs most other cars.

[@DrivenCarReviews]

I'm 5'9" and 165 and have plenty of room. And while you should be fine, obviously a test drive is in order.

[@ryanhamilton8084]

If you're trying to sell this off to a significant other, tell them that in 2017 Porsche ranked 2nd under JD power's list of vehicle dependability, between Lexus and the oh so magnificent TOYOTA. Yeah. Tell em Porsche is more dependable than a Toyota and keep it at that! ;)

[@ryanhamilton8084]

To add on that it placed 1st in the 2014 ranking

[@GoFast865]

Always enjoy your reviews!

[@tonyj.podrasky5273]

I just picked up my 2018 Cayman on Monday. This is my 6th Porsche. It is baseline with the only option being the Apple Play interface and has a manual transmission (I like rowing the gears). This thing is a real blast to drive - and with the A-P interface and SIRI, it's like a rolling entertainment center! :-) I can tell SIRI to do everything she normally does - but through the car. I love little cars, and I could have bought a 911 but just loved my 2008 Cayman so much that I went with a new one. At $56K out-the-door (for the car, not all the other stuff like license and taxes). I think it is well-worth it!

[@matthewlongtin4148]

I always enjoy your reviews. I appreciate all of the work you put in all of your videos! Keep up the great work!

[@DrivenCarReviews]

Thanks Matthew, it's a labor of love.

[@sutherland559]

Always the best videos. Well done.

[@lightspeed72]

Nice review and well edited video. Good job!

[@deu8894]

very lovely car, wouldn't mind owning one. very nice interior especially (red interior with a black or white exterior)

[@TXTundra-ex8bw]

Great job Tom I always enjoy watching you

[@lama6736]

Tom always look forward to your reviews! Care to share your short list of cars with the rest of us? Curious what your thoughts are with as many great cars you get to drive. Thanks!

[@DrivenCarReviews]

You know, I hesitate on that because cars are such a personal thing. But obviously I enjoy this car and the Macan (as long as we're on the subject of Porsche). I'm a fan of the BMW M235i too. The VW GTI and Mazda MX-5 Miata are tons of fun too. I could go on and on...

[@Xtefanno]

this channel is so underrated

[@Mart-Man]

It is not a boxer engine. It is a flat 4 engine. They have different firing order and mounting on the crankshaft.

[@Anonymous-pm7jf]

Porsche site lists the 2017 718 Cayman as having a boxer engine.

[@Mart-Man]

Huss Dakh my bad.

[@daniellay3598]

Such an awesome-looking car. Mustangs, cams, and challengers all look ugly as hell now.

[@halopcdraco]

Are you going to be doing a 2017 Hyundai Sport w/DCT with premium package review?

[@mrpmj00]

I bought a red 2017 Corvette 1LT manual transmission with performance exhaust, black wheels, red calipers, red seats, carbon badge package. Why? Because base Porsche Cayman ride was too stiff for me, no targa top (I didn't want the convertible's expense and replacement in a few years), not as much acceleration for the same $55k price, too low ground clearance for everyday use on public roads and shopping centers. I have no plans to track it.

[@petedavis8701]

Another great vid Tom

[@bentley9249]

I went to the dealer to order the new Cayanne, i did order it, then they let me drive this car for fun, i did not want to get out of it, i fell in love with it and cancelled my plans to order a 911 and got this one instead, so went to buy one car i ended up buying 2, only Porsche can make you do that, but i got 2 top of the range Porsches instead of one 911, can't complain.

[@WheresTheAnyKey1]

where did you get that 300k figure?

[@tims9294]

I think Porsche has done a survey. I have heard it on a few different channels.

[@seinsmeld13]

Tom great discussion/review. What did you think of the exhaust sound or lack of it? Most reviewers have made a point of discussing this. I'm surprised you didn't mention it.

[@DrivenCarReviews]

Do I like the sound of the outgoing car? You bet. I also like the sound of the 718. It has a very precision quality to it. But I didn't compare the two because, well, the old sound is gone. Period. If you really have to have it, you'll be buying a used Cayman. I prefer the driving dynamics of the 718 and I'm willing to give up a little sonic quality. Honestly, not buying this car simply because of the engine note is like kicking a supermodel out of bed for eating oatmeal raisin cookies instead of chocolate chip. Besides, if that's what stopping people from buying a car, the Mission E is doomed (and I suspect it's not).

[@doomtomb3]

What happened to the inline six!

[@eddiegray793]

Is it lighter ? Than the 6 ?

[@josephloro633]

ive own nothing but v8 cars n men this is the best 4 cyl ive ever heard

[@alexl6433]

I thought 0-60 for the 718 Cayman S was 3.6 sec, not 4.4 sec...

[@abdulrahmannn]

Just asking do you have some type of tv show or something?

[@DrivenCarReviews]

Nope. Are you a producer?

[@miguelircontar]

NO LED DRL's❔❔

[@ericocasio2877]

Miguel Ircontar You have to get the Lighting package to get the DRL’S. Should be standard on a Porsche if you ask me.

[@geigerzoola6642]

I love your reviews!!!!

[@Kumi_0]

Great review. Thank you Tom

[@ONEGUYCars]

Fantastic review, really enjoyed that.

[@alexmoore5970]

How does the 718 s, compare to the BWM M2 and C7 grandsport?

[@BananaSlayer_]

I know that the 718 and the Grandsport have similar prices but I am not so sure about the M2

[@Xtefanno]

i dont like this red color interior but we can see the quality is superb

[@redtvproductions1]

Well, I am surprised as I do like the red.

[@waxmax117]

This guy is an older version of Engendering Explained with the C-Net On Cars guy's voice.

[@zTropi]

Alan Pardew does car reviews

[@Agentxphile]

I just subbed, probably my favorite car channel now.I don't sub easily. Honest, more normal and your a great host.

[@chrissorreda4982]

Awesome production!

[@AsianNationGaming99]

Yay, Tom finally got to drive the new Cayman he keeps humble-praising haha

[@tonymanjarres1009]

This fellow says the 4 cylinder sounds great; however, the guys at motor trend indicated that it sounds horrible. I wonder who is correct.

[@practicalguy973]

Its pretty obvious by listening to the older 6 cylinder Cayman versus this new one. The old 6 cylinder sounds like a supercar and this new 4 cylinder turbo sounds like a tractor. There is no comparison at all.

[@practicalguy973]

Here's a comparison I agree with 100% scroll to 3m50s to hear the two engines. kzbin.info/www/bejne/n3nChWSQrdOoiqs

[@jeebus2121]

There's a German car reviewer who had never driven a flat-6 Cayman and he didn't mind the sound of the 718 S. I think it's one of those deals where if you were aware of the past the flat-4 is horrible and, if you aren't, the sound is more or less acceptable.

[@DonRobertson82]

the 4 cylinder sounds like shit.... so disappointed this is what i traded in my 2014 for :(

[@bentley9249]

i got one it sounds beautiful

[@chris14091975]

great review

[@mykolasbruzgys7230]

Great review!

[@TechGamesAU]

reupload?

[@DrivenCarReviews]

You might have seen the shorter version I did for The New York Times.

[@TechGamesAU]

Driven Car Reviews you might be right sir.

[@DrivenCarReviews]

Hope you enjoyed the director's cut.

[@DrivenCarReviews]

5'9". The only way to know for sure is to hop down to your local Porsche dealer.

[@ADDICTIVEBOARDSPORTS]

Very well done video.

[@Digiphex]

A Porsche with a Golf engine and Golf infotainment center.

[@apolon346]

This will be perfect for me if it fits a bike in the hatch back...

[@budiyantobong915]

Its a nice car but the acceleration is 0-60mph @ 4.4s? Its the same acceleration as Tesla MS 90D at much lower price. Note its not P90D or 100D or P100D.

[@faranasif6779]

Love your reviews. You should also try reading audiobooks! Lovely voice!

[@DrivenCarReviews]

Ha! Thanks. It's the Voelk voice, we all have it for better or for worse.

[@lazarogomez2346]

Absolutely beautiful🌀

[@coureurdebois]

i love it, but i just wish it was a bit more aggressive like the GT4

[@RumblestripDotNet]

It's as fast as a GT4, or, close enough as makes no difference unless you are a spreadsheet enthusiast. It also rides better in day to day driving.

[@coureurdebois]

well i was purely commenting on the aesthetics, not the "spread sheets"

[@chrissorreda4982]

justin bouche Then buy the GT4? Your argument sounds like this, "I wish the Civic looked like the Type R."

[@bigden2755]

LOL..... good point.... so obvious...

[@coureurdebois]

Chris Sorreda i never said it was a deal breaker or that it was bad, are you ok? you seem to have jumped to extreme conclusions. did my comment trigger you? +bigbitch 2755 stop stalking me, 8 months of this is just insane.

[@memester9361]

Wait....an average Cayman owner makes 300k in a year? So they are all millionaires?

[@KpopNiDontStop]

If you think about it who else would drop this much money when there are cars for way cheaper with the same performance numbers and even better brand new.

[@olasek7972]

KpopNiDontStop I make a LOT less than $300 k a year and decided on Boxster simply because I did not see the same quality of manufacturing, quality of engineering and refined handling in other cars. I wonder where he took this $300 k from, I am suspicious , then how much an average owner of 911 or Panamera makes. Sounds to me like a made up number.

[@SSS-mp8th]

Keep up the good work! I've come to the conclusion that if you can't afford it new you shouldn't buy it used. I had one of my dream cars for a few years M3 Convertible and the maintenance alone was just unreasonable. Headlight replacement was over a grand, brakes were over a grand (each axle), oil changes $240 started doing them myself still $120 for parts alone. I'd love a CPO Porsche but will probably have to end up with a Mustang GT or similar.

[@DrivenCarReviews]

My friend called his experience with his BMW "the thousand dollar club". Every time he brought it in it cost him that much. He switched to a Cadillac coupe.

[@SSS-mp8th]

Yes I've also heard it call Break My Wallet :) Was a wonderful driving car, well back to reality for me.

[@rexxontv8490]

Look better than the 911

[@figarofigaritz889]

Good looking car, even in white; very practical & appliance-like.

[@terrybilly9967]

Awesome car 👌🏻 Look better than a 911 the 718 for me

[@76carmel]

What about the Android Auto in the Porsche?

[@DrivenCarReviews]

It's not mentioned in the press info and don't think it's available.

[@muqrimusa2094]

I LOVE the back design, if porsche would offer atleast a four seater with this design I would buy it.

[@thespectralsorrows]

Muqri Musa it's called the 911, not sure how to mid-engine a 4 seater though.

[@walidmoghrabi9022]

if it only had the old cayman sound... it's sound is really so terrible. Hope next year porche is going back to the 2015 and 2016 cayman sound.

[@billyhughes9776]

Throwing large packs of toilet paper in the "storage" areas of the Cayman is appropriate. It's like -- "Is is practical?" "I don't give a shit".

[@unnaturalone]

Nice jacket.

[@faisalhaque6201]

Beautiful interior.....

[@trunggkien2361]

do you know that car worth after all type of taxes in Vietnam ? The answer is 195k insane

[@yung6868]

Only manual transmission option?

[@demokid2000]

Great video.. as usual. :D

[@MrMrdelivery]

I love the look of the Cayman, much, much more than the 911. Now all I have to do is win the lottery...

[@eggbirdtherooster]

Such a nice bloke

[@reikidreams9265]

I can't wait until I get mine. Ive had my eye on them for 2 years now.

[@RogerBaileyOnCars]

Great insightful Video ! the only thing missing from that Porsche is the fantastic 3.4 Litre flat 6 engine - sad. I made a DIY video review of my Cayman S 3.4 - it wont worry Grand Tour but hey, I enjoyed making it, check it out Tom!

[@PatrickEVRAable]

There's a difference between a boxer 4 and a flat 4.

[@sportsmansparadice42]

PatrickEVRAable It's the same.

[@Foxie635]

My next car

[@dodgethehell]

Rev the 4 cylinder engine - who doesn’t like that sound

[@allanlegend5989]

Might get this in 66 years when I have enough

[@felineprime4228]

300,000 gross V.S $82k I guess that makes sense

[@DarioAlessandro]

porsche number one!!!

[@mrbadx19]

if i made $300K a year, i'd retire in 2 years, buy a mitsu mirage when my smart died and live the rest of my life in Vegas.

[@andyrichardson6188]

Depending on the state you live in you'd lose almost 40% of that to taxes.

[@stevewenzel391]

Andy Richardson yuuppp

[@fctsui57]

I had a 2008 Cayman S, 2012 Cayman R then I upgraded myself to a 2015 911 three years ago that is 50% more expensive with just slightly better acceleration and top speed but sharp cornering is NOT much better than the mid engine design Cayman S. I just ordered a 2018 Cayman S with PDK, Sport Chrono package and 20 inches 911 wheel to replace the 2015 911. The new Cayman S with turbocharger can accelerate from 0 - 60 mph in 3.9 sec. or less that is faster than the 911 and once again 50% cheaper. BTW, I am making under US$300K a year!!

[@javianbrown8627]

I love your job too

[@alexhong794]

if you make 300k/yr you could go for a 458 instead of 911. A GT4 cayman also need to cost 100k+ that is as much as a 911. Maybe cayman is a little bit slower than 911, but who cares? For me, a 0.5s delay in 0-62mph doesn't matter because I am not going to have a drag race with somebody, its just a daily drive sport car and it faster than most 4 doors cars. Think about ip6 and ip6s. Its true that 911 has a better engine, but they looked similar.

[@blu101-o3t]

I guess I'll just drive the one on needforspeed rival