Porsche Cayman Generations (987,981,718) compared - Which is best? | Everyday Driver TV S4

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@dadhats
@dadhats 4 жыл бұрын
stop telling people that the 718 isnt a bad car!! I want to pick up a used one thats depreciated as hell :))
@senecamcmillian
@senecamcmillian Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@uno1industries
@uno1industries Жыл бұрын
Seriously 😭 My first choice RS3s are already crazy expensive. Let’s keep the 718 affordable.
@NathanNicholson-mh1zj
@NathanNicholson-mh1zj Жыл бұрын
SAME
@adamjohari
@adamjohari Жыл бұрын
Waiting for it to depreciate as well. The road tax on it is cheap where I am since the road tax is based on CC.
@Malcom2345
@Malcom2345 10 ай бұрын
The T4 is the best car Porsche has ever made and the motor is the best motor that suits this car best.
@alexanderthyrrestrup6184
@alexanderthyrrestrup6184 3 жыл бұрын
I love that you don't ruin the sound from the cars by putting lots of music over like so many others
@thelolguy007
@thelolguy007 3 жыл бұрын
Yessssss 👏👏👏
@GarySpendlove-i8f
@GarySpendlove-i8f Жыл бұрын
As a teenager in the mid 70s I remember reading a review of the then new 930 turbo, the content and photos of which sparked a life-long desire to own a Porsche. In the mid 80s a Porsche franchise opened in the village where I lived, and with a lot of luck, I started delivering and collecting its customers' cars at weekends - 944s, 911s, 928s, and an exquisite orange 912, which was for sale at £10,000 - hindsight!. My Porsche driving days ended all to soon when I moved on in my full-time job, returning my Porsche experiences to magazines and tv car shows. But my desire to own didn’t diminish, and on my recent retirement I finally got my own set of keys, to a manual Cayman 987.2, something very similar in size and pace to the early 911s, delivering an intoxicating surge of induction and pace as the flat 6 races to the red line. The cost of the air-cooled cars may have escaped me, but the best Porsche is the one you can afford - and that’s my Cayman!
@iguana4751
@iguana4751 6 ай бұрын
987.2 is a great affordable car. I never regretted buying a 987.2 Boxter.
@MK-su6eg
@MK-su6eg 6 ай бұрын
Nice! Similar story, teenage mid 70s, and a love of Porsche cars,and some day a owner, flash forward retired 2016 and 2019 got a nice 2006 boxster s. Aloha from Hawaii!
@rennwolfwolfgangkriegl
@rennwolfwolfgangkriegl 4 жыл бұрын
I am happy to have a 987 Cayman S in my collection. And it has a manual transmission. I love it to bits! 😀
@echotwo5813
@echotwo5813 4 жыл бұрын
Same here, got the 987 Boxster S
@Gnrnrvids
@Gnrnrvids 4 жыл бұрын
Same. I've had mine about 2 months now and it has single handedly ruined driving any of my other cars. The manual is absolutely divine.
@theamaturegolfer7798
@theamaturegolfer7798 4 жыл бұрын
Me too. I have a cayman R. 987. Stick. My wife has the 718, the cayman R is quicker, better handling & manual. It’s a lighter gearbox, plus there is no electrical nonsense like voice control. Everything stripped for weight. It’s a racing machine. Quicker than the stock 911 carerra
@charleslu7044
@charleslu7044 4 жыл бұрын
Echo Two, I traded my 05 Boxster S for a 981Spyder and I miss my old Porsche more than I thought I would. What they say about older and newer Porsches is true, “It’s a better car but a worse Porsche”.
@theamaturegolfer7798
@theamaturegolfer7798 4 жыл бұрын
Charles Lu absolutely correct. It’s a proper drive the 987 it’s manual not an automatic for starters. no fancy voice control or gadgets. More fun to drive the 987 but as you say the 718 is the better car.
@LsnakeM
@LsnakeM 4 жыл бұрын
I bought a 987 Cayman S this year and i love it!
@dsilvap
@dsilvap 4 жыл бұрын
My favorite gen is the 981, I love the looks, the sound, the options you could choose.
@movieclipz5034
@movieclipz5034 4 жыл бұрын
By far the best looking of the 3
@ZDY66666
@ZDY66666 4 жыл бұрын
yea definitely the best sounding one by far. The noise is intoxicating. Better sounding than any 991 generation 911s that isn't a GT3 or GT3RS (the 991.1 GTS also sounds very good but 981 GTS still takes it imo, it just sounds so much closer to your head and ears, just absolutely blasting the noise into your ears)
@ZDY66666
@ZDY66666 4 жыл бұрын
@@movieclipz5034 987 has the engine noise but missing that post 2012 exhaust work that all german sports cars focused more on starting around that era, 718 tries very hard to make it up with the exhaust but it only got so much attractive engine noise to work with (I personally still think it sounds quite ugly...) 981 is perfect in that regard.
@MAXREVS
@MAXREVS 4 жыл бұрын
Diego SP The man who designed the Cayman, Pinky Lai, calls out the 987 as the one that will go down in the history books. They’re all great cars, however there can only be one first. Listen to his quote here - kzbin.info/www/bejne/a6LXY31nZ8aIgNU
@jankay8569
@jankay8569 4 жыл бұрын
981 does have the best looking front end but that fugly rear tho...
@budtcheez
@budtcheez 3 жыл бұрын
2 year owner of a 718 GTS. Love the performance on the street and as best in class. 2.5L, PDK, dual clutch is a thing of beauty.
@realkingrav2265
@realkingrav2265 3 жыл бұрын
Does this car get a lot of attention on the road?
@lolowong439
@lolowong439 2 жыл бұрын
@@realkingrav2265 a hell lot I would say.
@asigameryt9422
@asigameryt9422 6 ай бұрын
Its. A Porsche ofc It does​@@realkingrav2265
@fredericberthou
@fredericberthou 6 ай бұрын
Non c’est mauvais et le son est mauvais
@asigameryt9422
@asigameryt9422 6 ай бұрын
@@realkingrav2265 it is a Porsche ofc It does
@gagangill5520
@gagangill5520 4 жыл бұрын
Just purchased my first Porsche yesterday after years of BMW M Cars. I am happy to announce it is a 981 GTS!! And I think it's a better drive than the M4 GTS I'm getting out of. Watching this just made me forget what buyer's remorse means!
@sixpotshot
@sixpotshot 4 жыл бұрын
You got it right buddy
@fredriksvard2603
@fredriksvard2603 4 жыл бұрын
There used to be some overlap, where people crosshopped m3:s and porsches, but that was another era. Now, just get a porsche and forget about bmw. The 1m, sure, but that was also years ago and its not like CSL vs 911 of those days anyway. And im saying this as a lifelong bmw fan, gave up about 10 years ago.
@robertscarano4205
@robertscarano4205 4 жыл бұрын
I picked up my 981 GTS back in December to replace my ATS-V (which replaced my M235i). You chose wisely and made a great decision!
@gagangill5520
@gagangill5520 4 жыл бұрын
@@fredriksvard2603 I agree, and I got into this F80 generation hoping to get some of that back, but when I test drive this 981, I knew it was something special. NA engines are amazing, but the gas milage on them are 😬
@fredriksvard2603
@fredriksvard2603 4 жыл бұрын
Gagan Gill i kinda realized this with a cayman in, hmm, might have been 2012-13 or so. Lost track of bmw after e92 and 1m, im sure m2 is good but 1) bmw has nothing to compete with current new p cars, and there are no real successors to e30, e36, and 2) there are such good options for used porsches, like older caymans/gt4 and996/997 c2 and turbo. GT3/2/rs i always thought were beyond bmw, you dont crosshop those and m cars really. Porsche still makes some somewhat lightweight track focused cars, bmw were still in that game up until e46 (csl) platform. Now i dont see how they differ from mercedes and audi really (and lets not get into how those brands stepped up in racing and with the r8 and gtr models).
@oliverm.gilbert9639
@oliverm.gilbert9639 4 жыл бұрын
So glad I just bought 987 cayman what a beauty of a car!
@sergeantsqueaker
@sergeantsqueaker 4 жыл бұрын
Great video as ever. Nice to see a comparison of these. Personally I think Porsche got it right straight out of the box. 987 for me. And BTW those roads you're on are amazing!
@deanoc
@deanoc 4 жыл бұрын
Having driven all 3 I totally agree with all of your comments. It is worth knowing that you can significantly improve the feel of the 981 by fitting the 718 rear ARB and brace as well as dialling in more neg camber. This is about all that Porsche changed and the improvement is drastic.
@TheTravisTube
@TheTravisTube 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting! As the owner of a 981s with x73 suspension, I have always wondered how much of the handling improvement granted to the 718 actually comes down to the suspension versus subtle changes in electronic steering. PASM is the sportiest option in the 718, but it gets major kudos and I've no doubt that it is good. Another tiny detail to keep in mind is that the steering wheel of the 718 actually has a smaller radius (I know this for sure because I recently swapped out my OEM multifunction wheel for a 718 wheel lol). I really need to drive the 718 (preferably on track), because now I'm curious about the overall differences in the way the two cars are set up.
@timmy6012
@timmy6012 4 жыл бұрын
Nice review guys, Porsche really nailed it when they came up with the Cayman models. I drive a 2.7 with a few of the option boxes ticked. I never tire of listening to the flat 6 in sports mode as it revs through 5 to 7 thousand rpm, music to my ears. Great cars with an epic soundtrack!
@RussellMiddleton
@RussellMiddleton 4 жыл бұрын
Likewise! IMO the 2.7 is plenty fast for the public road, and means you can rev it out to hear that flat-6 noise longer. Have fun.
@Jwdude123
@Jwdude123 3 жыл бұрын
The 2.7 really is a gem. You can rev it out everyday.
@tylerhollman587
@tylerhollman587 Жыл бұрын
I just got a 2007 2.7 5 speed cayman. It's amazing
@hiphopcommunity4203
@hiphopcommunity4203 Жыл бұрын
I love the 2.7 beautiful car
@_ArsNova
@_ArsNova 2 жыл бұрын
All the Cayman gens are great, but I've got a lot of love for the 987. 981 isn't a bad choice either, a good increase in power and kept the classic Porsche flat-6.
@RuTube981
@RuTube981 4 жыл бұрын
I have a 981 Cayman S manual that I hunted for after I saw your video from 2012 about how amazing a used cayman S was. No regret. Best car ever. Thank you so much!
@bavariancarenthusiast2722
@bavariancarenthusiast2722 4 жыл бұрын
the best moment in time is the 981 - looks best of them, flat 6 - all the right options - Paul, don't sell it ever! Get a 2nd car if you must but keep the GTS.
@jamesmarshall3311
@jamesmarshall3311 4 жыл бұрын
Prefer the back end of the 987 to the 981 myself, but the rest of the 981 is a nice small tick nicer. More developed interior too.
@Jwdude123
@Jwdude123 2 жыл бұрын
987.1 is the moment in time car. End.
@hchaves27
@hchaves27 4 жыл бұрын
Gts 4.0 is what you needed here for a true comparison
@tamasszabo8824
@tamasszabo8824 4 жыл бұрын
Very true.
@Meatwad650
@Meatwad650 4 жыл бұрын
Sure. It would also sound the worst.
@drewmorg.
@drewmorg. 4 жыл бұрын
@@Meatwad650 No one really ever comments on the 4.0 GTS sound in their review videos, I wonder why!!
@Meatwad650
@Meatwad650 4 жыл бұрын
@@drewmorg. I know, right? They might be forced to admit it wasn't all about the number of cylinders...
@mikedodd9294
@mikedodd9294 4 жыл бұрын
from the criteria they used to pick the 987 I do think the 4.0 GTS would win. Looking forward to more of these Cayman reviews in the future. 2024's electric Cayman has to be included with that 4.0 GTS! You just can't go wrong with any of these cars.
@soulstyledevon
@soulstyledevon 4 жыл бұрын
987.2 is a timeless classic. In a world where everything has gone digital and touch sensitive, somewhat sterile. 987s offer the classic sports car feel and package. Future classic...
@Lucky008aau
@Lucky008aau 4 жыл бұрын
I'm going to take this personally.
@2gj906
@2gj906 4 жыл бұрын
I'd argue the first gen R is more of a future classic than the 987.2, definitely a lot more exclusive, you don't see them that often in the wild
@Lucky008aau
@Lucky008aau 4 жыл бұрын
@@2gj906 987.2 is all Caymans from 2009-2012, including the base, S, and R (2012 only). But, I assume you're saying that the R is more exclusive (only 1621 made) and more of a future classic (cost $50k-60k) than the base and the S, which I believe you're right. But, at twice the price, with no A/C or radio, I chose the S.
@2gj906
@2gj906 4 жыл бұрын
@@Lucky008aau You're right the way R is specced isn't my first choice either, it's just a Porschephile's Special
@zzbear
@zzbear 4 жыл бұрын
I love my 987.2. Best sound, best steering, best braking; hardly any breaking. No IMS issues.
@lonniecrook1684
@lonniecrook1684 4 жыл бұрын
Have owned my 2016 981 S manual for two years now. I grin every time I turn the key and hear that normally aspirated 6 jump to life. I've never felt connected to a car like this one. There may be nuances between these three, but I absolutely love the feeling of driving my Cayman S. You can't go wrong with this car!
@MrJef06
@MrJef06 4 жыл бұрын
I know what you mean, I owned a 2014 981 (2.7) and now a 2016 981 GTS :) Test drove the 718 S, didn't like it.
@TommyWalls007
@TommyWalls007 4 жыл бұрын
I've got a 981 GTS. The sound totally consumes you at higher RPM. Even at low RPM, the growl and bangs always keep a smile on your face.
@ApothecaryTerry
@ApothecaryTerry 4 жыл бұрын
2.5k RPM...it gargles. Mmmmmmmm.
@Jay-xr3sb
@Jay-xr3sb 2 жыл бұрын
Lows revs sounds like someone slurping the end of thier milkshake with a straw
@Jwdude123
@Jwdude123 4 жыл бұрын
Porsche 987 styling is perfection. Hydraulic steering is ace. They got it right the first time. The moment in time car.
@7027A
@7027A 3 жыл бұрын
No car videos feature better engine sounds than what you guys capture. I love that there are no GoPros stuck on the outside of the cars. All exterior action shots are captured from a chase car or drone or roadside...the best!
@EverydayDriver
@EverydayDriver 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for noticing - it creates extra work, but we think it's important. Glad to have you watching!
@Momo_8k
@Momo_8k 4 жыл бұрын
It's like you gentlemen knew I have spent my entire week looking at 981 and 718 Caymans 👍
@ZDY66666
@ZDY66666 4 жыл бұрын
definitely, 981 GTS will be the go-to one in the future especially when Naturally aspirated sports cars with great sound become impossible to get and are not produced anymore. 987 R closely after. But 981 is the better middle ground that can age better from a design, reliability, and support perspective.
@Te1ecastermaster
@Te1ecastermaster 4 жыл бұрын
718 gts 4.0...
@ZDY66666
@ZDY66666 4 жыл бұрын
Nate Crabtree nope, I disagree and here’s the technicals to why: 718 GTS 4.0 sounds worse than 981 GTS (especially with the particulate filter). Near non-existent noise below 4000 rpm but due to sharing the same horrible gear ratios as the 981 (also 981's big flaw too imo), except with even more horsepower. Slow gearing with even more horsepower means that to hear that engine you’re in 100% jail speeds. Whereas the 981 makes nice sound anywhere past 2000 rpm and even 2000rpm makes a grumbly sound (but arguably a drone sound, still better than nothing). While its still got horrible gearing, at least you still get to hear something. And since it has less horsepower, you can actually ride the horrid gears and end up in less speed than hte 718 4.0 GTS. Espeically when the day comes where none of these cars are competitive at 0-60, this will matter even more. Secondly, 718 GTS 4.0 is built on an engine complying with newer emission standards and laws. It also has much less induction noise as well. Thirdly, 718 GTS 4.0 price point is much higher. As high if not more than 981 GT4 if we were to travel back in time. And I am referring to average samples around the market,not starting price (which is a horrible indication for porsches). Also I’m assuming everyone already knows this. The GTS “4.0” ‘s 4.0 engine is not the GT3 4.0 engine. It’s a much cheaper to produce engine based on the twin turbo flat 6 used in 991.2 and 992.1 911s. But stripped its turbos and bored and stroked up to 4.0. Which is why it sounds so bland.
@watermelon2521
@watermelon2521 4 жыл бұрын
I agree. My dad bought a 981 gts and dang it sounds good...
@jeffrey-f
@jeffrey-f 4 жыл бұрын
981 is the ugliest generation too bulky
@bunsenn5064
@bunsenn5064 3 жыл бұрын
@@ZDY66666 So it’s the sound? That’s it? Like, when people complain about turbocharging these days, I can usually understand that being due to the performance difference and the way the car delivers power. The sound is probably one of the last things that matters. The emotion and driving experience of an engine is about the way the engine performs and feels. And frankly, the sound isn’t really a turn-off for me. A naturally aspirated flat-six on its own is enough for me.
@2kviper877
@2kviper877 Жыл бұрын
I bought my 987.2 base Cayman on the cheap and was just going to flip it for a quick buck. That was 4 years ago. I love this car! Another fantastic episode! Keep em coming!
@DaGrybo
@DaGrybo 4 жыл бұрын
I remember watching your black Cayman review before buying my first Cayman. Now I'm on the 987.2S in manual, and everything spoken in this review is right. You feel the steering wheel column connected to the wheels through your hands, the 987 hydraulic rack gives you a ton of feedback, especially when it gets serious with the front wheels, it will brake your hands if you have the wrong accident. That's where the magic with the Cayman happens, because the car sits on the road in a very refined way. It has enough mass to feel respectable and safe. Then you step on it and in the curve the car feels responsive, lively, short - like a backpack. This wheelbase, the proportion and the simple suspension setup, not too wide 265 tires, all make it just the right experience, it's quite astounding because when you understand it you see how this is the perfect formula for a drivers car. Damping in my S is just right for me to daily it with pleasure. And then with a blip of the gas pedal you have a motorbike like experience. It's not only the power, it's the sound, the way the suspension flexes, the vibration. It's one of the true great sports cars of all time.
@DAPPERDANMEMEO
@DAPPERDANMEMEO 4 жыл бұрын
Uh greed.
@Jwdude123
@Jwdude123 9 ай бұрын
Facts.
@02b6a4
@02b6a4 4 жыл бұрын
As an owner of a 981cs for the past 6+ years and having driven the 718bs for a day, I can say that I'd stick with the 981cs. 718bs felt like a better car in terms of acceleration, suspension, and overall handling. The 981cs is just a better Porsche for me. Would love to experience the 987r.
@jochemr.a.bakker8048
@jochemr.a.bakker8048 4 жыл бұрын
I went from a 987.1S to a 718S (both manuals). The lesser appeal to a lot of people for the 718 got me a great deal on one. My 987.1 sounded better than the 718 does, but everything else is better on the new one. And the auto rev matching is heavenly. Sure, I can heel-toe, but not as consistent as the 718 can do it for me. You guys should do the same series with all manual cars :)
@JordanDietz
@JordanDietz 4 жыл бұрын
"Show me an angle that isn't delicious." Now that's Tshirt material!
@Flies2FLL
@Flies2FLL 4 жыл бұрын
You beat me to saying that....
@jankay8569
@jankay8569 4 жыл бұрын
well, 981 doesn't really have the prettiest rear. 791 is an improvement but still, I feel like it could do better. I also hate the centre exhaust. It makes the car look cheap and ruins the esthetic. Thank god they split up the exhaust for the 2021 GTS model.
@seivaDsugnA
@seivaDsugnA 3 жыл бұрын
@@jankay8569 981 has the perfect rear. It's in the back.
@alfonso87ful
@alfonso87ful 4 жыл бұрын
Just bought an old boxter s. Next year I plan to add an older cayman s to my collection. Great videos. Glad to see you guys going strong and love your work..
@tommy516
@tommy516 3 жыл бұрын
I use to have a 718 GTS....I have a 992 Base and a few other Porsches but I'm watching you guys now to live Vicariously.....I have little kids and can never get out to drive. Those Aspens are great!
@imaheatfan
@imaheatfan 4 жыл бұрын
Well done guys. So refreshing to see journalists not poopoo the 718’s flat four. ...but I’d still option mine as a 718 GTS 4.0
@morganvon5664
@morganvon5664 4 жыл бұрын
I think this originally aired about 3 years ago. You guys really nailed it by choosing the Cayman R. It's a pretty rare car and has held it's value amazingly well. I've been trying to buy one, and many, especially the launch color peridot green, are selling for close to original sticker price.
@RussellMiddleton
@RussellMiddleton 4 жыл бұрын
Great comparison. I've driven all extensively, and found the 987 is by far the most communicative and the best choice for a weekend car. Extra refinement of the 981 worth considering for a daily or for long distances. I can't imagine paying more for a 718 and losing that beautiful sound. My solution was to take the 981 budget (~$35k) and buy a 987 for weekends + and a Golf GTI for practical stuff/long distance. The greatest weekend fun in the Cayman + serious 4-seat practicality (and still a chunk of fun!) the rest of the time. Regularly driving two very different types of car is enjoyable too. Don't think there's any going back to the feel of the 987, so sadly think this is the last Porsche I'll own. I love it.
@WormOfEscence
@WormOfEscence 4 жыл бұрын
The 987 just looks TIMELESS!
@jankay8569
@jankay8569 4 жыл бұрын
get glasses asap
@WormOfEscence
@WormOfEscence 4 жыл бұрын
jankay 🗿
@Jwdude123
@Jwdude123 3 жыл бұрын
Timeless.
@mohibzafar4585
@mohibzafar4585 3 жыл бұрын
True. Its the nearest cayman ever got to 911s.
@SonicProvocateur
@SonicProvocateur 9 ай бұрын
​@@mohibzafar4585 Not surprising. The original 987 test mule was a 911 Cabriolet! Pinky Lai got it right first time; it has the classic Porsche styling thats absolutely timeless.
@thomaswschaller
@thomaswschaller 3 жыл бұрын
Such a great review - Thank you guys . I have never loved a car as much as my 987 manual 6. I had a 981 for a year, and only test-drove a 718 PDK - but came back to the 987. Also, I think it's the most beautiful of the lot . But any Cayman - with that mid-engine Porsche magic - can't go wrong.
@Jwdude123
@Jwdude123 2 жыл бұрын
Correct. End of discussion.
@carsandchronos
@carsandchronos 3 жыл бұрын
Have had a 987 for almost 5 years. A true pleasure to drive. Very analog feel (manual transmission, real gauges, etc) with timeless style and design!
@Jwdude123
@Jwdude123 3 жыл бұрын
Moment in time car. Future classic.
@georgeparaskevopoulos6601
@georgeparaskevopoulos6601 4 жыл бұрын
Cayman R for me all day long.
@MAXREVS
@MAXREVS 4 жыл бұрын
George Paraskevopoulos +1 from me
@jankay8569
@jankay8569 4 жыл бұрын
its fugly tho
@CarYenta-1
@CarYenta-1 4 жыл бұрын
But the 987.1 has the engine that breaks
@CarYenta-1
@CarYenta-1 4 жыл бұрын
@John S I don't doubt that you have a good example. Bore scoring (which can also happen on the 9A1) keeps me up at night :)
@georgeparaskevopoulos6601
@georgeparaskevopoulos6601 4 жыл бұрын
Andrew Vasilakes an engine can get fixed. That’s not an issue. Here we are talking about driving pleasure. If you want a car that doesn’t break get yourself a Toyota. I don’t want to argue, but that’s the truth.
@LEADitOUT
@LEADitOUT 4 жыл бұрын
Great comparison. The 718 is my favorite, but I love them all
@Bananagrouve
@Bananagrouve 4 жыл бұрын
Guys, please never stop making these videos
@MAXREVS
@MAXREVS 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve just been sent a link to this video by a subscriber as I run a Cayman focused YT channel. This is going to be an epic video!! Disclaimer, I own a 987.2 CS ;-)
@tomingrassiaimages8776
@tomingrassiaimages8776 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Max!
@MAXREVS
@MAXREVS 4 жыл бұрын
@@tomingrassiaimages8776 Fancy seeing you here. Having owned a 987 and now a 981, all that’s left is to buy a 718 one day ;-)
@tomingrassiaimages8776
@tomingrassiaimages8776 4 жыл бұрын
@@MAXREVS Max...you know..I think you have convinced me that 911's are not in my future. I am so happy with my 981 GTS. I can't even imagine what would come next. Probably a 2020 718 GTS in 2026.
@jeffrey-f
@jeffrey-f 4 жыл бұрын
987.2 was my favorite perfect shape with updated lights and small
@scottiecopasetic8315
@scottiecopasetic8315 3 жыл бұрын
PS. Absolutely love the roads you guys choose for these auto vlogs. Looks like Yellowstone.
@armancz
@armancz 4 жыл бұрын
Never thought I'd ever say this but I love the sound of 718 in this video, and now with 6 cylinder back in GTS 4 cylinder GTS will be a bargain.
@capuchinseven
@capuchinseven 4 жыл бұрын
Just traded my 981 for a 718 and I honestly do not understand the hate.
@jamesmarshall3311
@jamesmarshall3311 4 жыл бұрын
@@capuchinseven people just don`t like the sound of the four cylinder, not to mention the feel. No turbo eithir makes the earlier models feel more sporting fun as you have to work the engine a bit more.
@heavyarmsofsteel
@heavyarmsofsteel 3 жыл бұрын
I just picked up 2018 Cayman S. In 2 weeks already had neighbours say it is loud....louder than my prior boxster 981 with PSE. Driving dynamics....no comparison. 718 all the way
@thomasbummer4361
@thomasbummer4361 3 жыл бұрын
@@heavyarmsofsteel cant compare boxster to cayman dynamics
@michaelmich00
@michaelmich00 Жыл бұрын
@@capuchinseven how did u like it past years? pro's and cons?
@dpr5105
@dpr5105 4 жыл бұрын
I had a 97 C4S, had it for about 3 years, then got tired of it and sold it (big mistake given current prices..) and got a Lotus Elise, had that for about 3 years as well. Then got a new 2011 Cayman 987 and I STILL have it because I've never been bored by it. Still a delight every time I drive it.
@DAPPERDANMEMEO
@DAPPERDANMEMEO 4 жыл бұрын
I have a 2011 S as well. Perfection
@WormOfEscence
@WormOfEscence 4 жыл бұрын
987 for the win!
@John_watches-cars
@John_watches-cars 2 жыл бұрын
718 GTS 2.5 with a simple APR tune is absolutely incredible and will hang with a GT4. 718 engineering is simply a thing of beauty
@2000viperrt
@2000viperrt 4 жыл бұрын
Another great episode! Keep-em coming guys! Love my 2009 987.2 manual. So much fun to drive. It’s hard to stop putting miles on it. Like my Viper it’s a hooligan car. And there is definitely a new 4.0 Cayman or maybe Boxter in my future.
@Chris-hb6jt
@Chris-hb6jt 2 жыл бұрын
987.2 is peak cayman, solved the reliability issues. I put 65k miles on mine and made money
@SJ-bk1zm
@SJ-bk1zm 4 жыл бұрын
I liked this review a lot! You guys know what you are talking about: a very honest view on the different generations. Also: the sound quality is superb! It's something very rare to catch the sound in such a good way in a video. Thank you very much! Keep up the good work.
@EverydayDriver
@EverydayDriver 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Glad you enjoyed and we appreciate you watching and commenting!
@Matt77346
@Matt77346 2 жыл бұрын
I was shopping 981S vs 987.2S in manual....ended up with a 2012 987.2 S and couldn't be happier. Coming from an Elise and 4C background, I actually preferred the drive in the 987.2. The 981's are great but they don't feel as nimble or raw as the 987's. Also I prefer the way the front looks on the 981 but the rest of the car looks better on the 987, especially from the back. My 2012 is over 10 years old and has 31k miles but no rattles or creaks anywhere. Build quality is excellent.
@c4lvin1337
@c4lvin1337 4 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love my 981 Cayman S. But you just cant go wrong with any generation Cayman. Absolute hilarious fun.
@siebevdc9403
@siebevdc9403 4 жыл бұрын
My god, this is the best video on KZbin. Proud owner of a Cayman 987.2. What a review,!
@DAPPERDANMEMEO
@DAPPERDANMEMEO 4 жыл бұрын
#methree
@Dave-un7fh
@Dave-un7fh 8 ай бұрын
Just came across this. The 718 is the Marketing name. If you are going to refer to the two previous models by their respective Type numbers, then the 718 should be referred to as it's Type number, which is 982. Just saying.
@sleepeatdrive7619
@sleepeatdrive7619 4 жыл бұрын
Well done! I owned a 987.2 Boxster PDK and I loved the hell out of it! Now I’m looking for a S2000 CR
@nickh1933
@nickh1933 3 жыл бұрын
987 still feels the most connected and engaging. I have driven pretty much every Cayman model to date. As a plus the 987 are starting to appreciate nicely behind the 911 market which has gone bonkers lately. The smaller size, hydraulic steering and lines of the 987 are big selling points over the newer ones.
@Jwdude123
@Jwdude123 2 жыл бұрын
Clearly 100% correct. Done
@DriverGuy23
@DriverGuy23 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve been lucky enough to own all 3 Cayman generations. My latest 718 is the best of the bunch out of all 3. Why? Because, in my opinion, the 718 has better handling, better acceleration, better tech & the best interior of all 3. I’m impressed whenever I’m behind the wheel & look forward to the next Cayman generation.
@kaisvlog7208
@kaisvlog7208 3 жыл бұрын
I'm very seriously considering the 718 300HP 2.0L but thinking that I might miss out a whole lot from the 981 flat 6 341hp. Both PDK. I live in a rather small city with fair amount of country roads Hope you can sway me to the 718 and not much im missing fr d inline 6 and the sound. But I can be seduced by the inline 6 and the sound. Which has better throttle response?
@tonyli5197
@tonyli5197 4 жыл бұрын
16:07 the front bumper hits the ground for sure. (from a current 718 Cayman GTS owner)
@davidleung1340
@davidleung1340 4 жыл бұрын
16:07 the front bumper hits the ground for sure. (from a current 718 Cayman GTS owner)
@TheNameITriedWasTaken
@TheNameITriedWasTaken 3 жыл бұрын
Ouchhh
@watermelon2521
@watermelon2521 4 жыл бұрын
My dads got a 981 gts and holy that thing sounds sooooo good
@sadubone
@sadubone 4 жыл бұрын
I love the sound of Paul's exhaust. nicely done.
@patrickodonnell9388
@patrickodonnell9388 3 жыл бұрын
I own a 987.1 it's a 5 speed manual and it's a beautiful car that I love. It's not a S model but it's still a blast to drive. I did all the upgrades that were possible like seats and exhaust and suspension but I didn't touch anything related to the engine because I believe it's perfect as is.
@donzmeuheu6153
@donzmeuheu6153 3 жыл бұрын
987 All the Way. Best Car ever made by Porsche.
@j3ah0o
@j3ah0o 2 ай бұрын
I got to drive a 2014. I'd dropped in just to loop the parking lot, but saw salesman walk outside so I asked a few questions. Then he let me sit inside. Then he offered a drive. OMG that was an absolute JOY to drive! Further reinforced that I'm going to buy a Porsche...
@atticus6572
@atticus6572 4 жыл бұрын
Funnily, each generation of Cayman can and will be argued as the underrated one.
@ApothecaryTerry
@ApothecaryTerry 4 жыл бұрын
I've only really heard people call the 718 underrated, never the 981 at least compared to other Caymans. They're all underrated by 911 fans of course. What I definitely haven't heard though is anyone calling a Cayman overrated. They're definitely not perfect cars, but right now I can't think of a car I'd rather have than a 981S (which is good because I just spent a lot of money on one!).
@jeffreygong1101
@jeffreygong1101 4 жыл бұрын
Paul and Todd is actually the same person split in two, the split personalities aside (which i love) , you can also see it by looking at their hair line, they complete each other like a jigsaw piece to its slot, I love it.
@Tekart47
@Tekart47 4 жыл бұрын
Great review as always... Recently picked up a used 2018 Cayman S (6 spd with every performance option ticked) and it is such an amazing car on the street and track. Let the purist hate on the 4 cylinder and go pick one up for a deal used and drive the crap out of it.
@dana.4263
@dana.4263 3 жыл бұрын
Same here, 2 weeks ago. Came from Audi TTS ..this is quite a bit better experience so far
@Jay-xr3sb
@Jay-xr3sb 2 жыл бұрын
@@dana.4263 really, I have a mk2 tt, how does it differ? Thinking about a ttrs, cayman 718 s, 981 s or just wait and see on the emira
@bstancel12
@bstancel12 3 жыл бұрын
So glad that I discovered this channel. Really like these guys, their reviews and that they are just themselves. As a former Top Gear UK fan, I have seen so many people, shows and KZbin channels try to recreate the dynamic of the hosts on that show instead of just being themselves. That is just difficult to watch. However, watching these guys, their takes and reviews just works and is refreshing. Thanks for filling that gap of a great automotive channel / show for car enthusiasts.
@goofydog2
@goofydog2 3 жыл бұрын
I waited 3 years before I plucked down for my 981 Cayman. I still think it was the greatest looking Cayman and I still think it is. The 987 just drooped too much, especially the rear end as well as the side view.
@johnT5
@johnT5 Жыл бұрын
Owned a 987, 981 Base and 981 GT4 Caymans. I miss the 987 the most. That's my regret car.
@vietthanhnguyen1227
@vietthanhnguyen1227 4 жыл бұрын
I love the first gen design. Especially the round fog lights
@SLG52
@SLG52 4 жыл бұрын
I have an 06S. I see people who replace the round lights with cheap looking LED strips. It is terrible!!!!
@vietthanhnguyen1227
@vietthanhnguyen1227 4 жыл бұрын
@@SLG52ikr they want their car look like newer 981, like some company sell bodykit to "transform" 997 to 991 lol. So stupid.
@Jwdude123
@Jwdude123 3 жыл бұрын
Agree.
@DrivenGarage
@DrivenGarage 4 жыл бұрын
Just because this video it confirmed my love for the 981, now im flying out tomorrow to get a 981!!🥰😍 to join the Lotus family 😇
@orangecayman520
@orangecayman520 4 жыл бұрын
987 for me, but I'm biased 😉
@lewiseig5432
@lewiseig5432 3 жыл бұрын
I loved my Cayman R but in the suburbs, pot holes and bad roads are so much more acceptable in a GT4 981....and then there's everything else, almost the same weight in my stripped GT4 as the R, but significantly more HP, and the sound....wow. great job on this video.
@TheUnlistedOne
@TheUnlistedOne 4 жыл бұрын
BEST VIDEO EVER! ........ BUT, 981GTS for life!
@joaorodrigues-dy9rm
@joaorodrigues-dy9rm Жыл бұрын
The 718 isnt a bad car, but the 2.0 sounds, crummy. Now the cayman 4.0 is the recipe for dreams, i dont want a gt3 or a turbo s or a gt2 rs, i want a straight piped 718 cayman gts😍, just to blast that at night, having the time of my life.
@sniperBOBAH
@sniperBOBAH 3 жыл бұрын
718 for daily, 981 for weekend and 987 for track :-)
@ahlapski
@ahlapski 4 жыл бұрын
Well, it has to be a manual 987 R (not PDK) for me.
@DS-vx3wf
@DS-vx3wf 4 жыл бұрын
Porsche CEO, - “if you want to be the fastest, the most control of the car, using the full potential of the car, there’s nothing better than the double-clutch, the PDK. It doesn’t get any better,”
@chikara758
@chikara758 4 жыл бұрын
I had a manual 981c and now have a 718 cayman PDK. The PDK is badass. Paddle shifting and/or sports+ mode are pure fun.
@512TXSDIY
@512TXSDIY 3 жыл бұрын
@@DS-vx3wf Maybe... but it’s a boring drive with PDK even if it’s faster. Manual allows more interaction with car I think.
@sonicsabbath
@sonicsabbath 3 жыл бұрын
@@512TXSDIY You actually drive one?
@512TXSDIY
@512TXSDIY 3 жыл бұрын
@@sonicsabbath I have, yes. It drives great but not for me is all.
@johnrussell5301
@johnrussell5301 3 жыл бұрын
I have a 425,000 mile '07 987 engine is perfect... headers, gt3 manifold, flashed chip 365hp, lightweight flywheel, machined short throw shifter... 0-60 about 4 flat... R9 bilsteins.... sound at 5,000 rpms... you are at Sebring! AWESOME car...
@CRAWLER3888
@CRAWLER3888 2 жыл бұрын
981 looks a bit like a panamera coupe. 987 is best imo
@keking2178
@keking2178 4 жыл бұрын
981 best sounding cayman. Miss my 2016 gts
@WarriorsPhoto
@WarriorsPhoto 3 жыл бұрын
Good review gentleman. I am glad to hear people praising Porsche's 4 cylinder turbo. I'd like to drive one and see how it performs.
@dylondylondylondylondylon5
@dylondylondylondylondylon5 4 жыл бұрын
Just comes down to priorities and budget. For me 981 S/GTS is what I’m targeting as it’s kind of the middle ground option. 718 GTS 4.0 is the dream but sadly way out of my price range.
@OfficialCandor
@OfficialCandor Жыл бұрын
I want a 981 s bad thats what im saving for from now on
@ormand3000
@ormand3000 4 жыл бұрын
Bought a CPO 981CS 3 years ago, and it's the best car I've ever owned. Easily replaces motorcycle trackday riding, and that's saying something!
@strebrr
@strebrr 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. I'd love to see a comparison between the flat 4 Turbo Cayman GTS vs. the NA flat 6 4.0 Cayman GTS 😍
@coreyworthingtonii9230
@coreyworthingtonii9230 Жыл бұрын
I love the 981 model. I drove the base 981 Cayman and it was a beautiful drive and omfg the sound is so sweet. Really, a piece of art in my mind.
@iluvcakes19
@iluvcakes19 4 жыл бұрын
987 is easily my favorite gen!
@Jwdude123
@Jwdude123 2 жыл бұрын
It’s 2022. And the 987 has exploded in value.
@jasoncheung8009
@jasoncheung8009 4 жыл бұрын
Loved the review. Wished you guys were able to pickup a 718 GTS 4.0 for a true fair 6 cylinder comparison. Maybe down the road?
@phattyhales
@phattyhales 4 жыл бұрын
This was a TV episode which aired a couple of years ago. This was the current 718 at the time.
@jankay8569
@jankay8569 4 жыл бұрын
@@phattyhales why are they posting videos from couple yrs back?
@triaxe-mmb
@triaxe-mmb 4 жыл бұрын
@@jankay8569 not in the know but I would assume they probably had a exclusive period for tv use in their contract. As those expire, they are adding episodes to youtube
@paulwood862
@paulwood862 4 жыл бұрын
The 718 4T is more than a match for the previous models
@phattyhales
@phattyhales 4 жыл бұрын
@@triaxe-mmb we trickle out older TV episodes onto KZbin after it's aired there as well as been on Amazon Prime and Vimeo for a while.
@Jeremy-kg1zr
@Jeremy-kg1zr Жыл бұрын
I Really wish you had compared manuals rather than autos. :( But still, great vid and thanks for making it.
@billymania11
@billymania11 4 жыл бұрын
After a lifetime of loud and boisterous automobiles, the 718 appeals to me. The turbo is like the hand of god. From any RPM, the twist is there and no need to rap out the motor. Coupled with the PDK, and the lightweight body, you're good to go.
@minimcewen
@minimcewen 4 жыл бұрын
Ahhh....love the video. Sometimes I feel like my 981 is the unwanted stepchild of Porsche. Visited the factory and could not find anything 981 (books, models, stickers...). Such a great car all but I just wish the new models could still house a roof rack for extra storage. Not sure why they decided to do away with that when the 911 still has the mounts for the roof rack. Give me that and a sunroof and bliss.
@lexus0829
@lexus0829 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video... ive owned the 987.2 and 981S.. im a purist at heart also owned 911s, turbo, boxsters thru the years ... the base 987.2 2.9 is one of the most rewarding car to drive.. but the 718 chassis is just heaven the sound doesnt bother me one bit.....
@DAPPERDANMEMEO
@DAPPERDANMEMEO 4 жыл бұрын
All due respect, the S 987.2 HAS to be more rewarding than the base.
@jerome_karxx
@jerome_karxx 4 жыл бұрын
yes i confirm
@bladerunner6282
@bladerunner6282 4 жыл бұрын
i'm a cayman fan that's never driven one. but that doesn't mean i don't have a favorite, of course. :) mine is the manual transmission 2009-2012 cayman S. the engine problems were behind it, with a larger displacement and power of the S version and what i consider minimal but tasteful improvements in the aesthetics, IMO it's the best. they didn't sell many of them during those years due to the recession and can be very difficult to find.
@DAPPERDANMEMEO
@DAPPERDANMEMEO 4 жыл бұрын
Your suspicions are completely correct. I’ve owned both. Go drive one. Go find one. And if at all possible, go buy one.
@vomErsten
@vomErsten 4 жыл бұрын
"Stop being babies about it..." Bold talk coming from the Sonic commercial bois... :p
@mystery8820
@mystery8820 3 жыл бұрын
Wait, Paul or Todd were in a Sonic commercial (the restaurant, I mean)?
@vomErsten
@vomErsten 3 жыл бұрын
@@mystery8820 No, but they strongly resemble the Sonic duo in both appearance and interaction. I enjoy watching Todd and Paul, just poking some fun. :p
@joshuadewaal
@joshuadewaal 2 жыл бұрын
Just picked up a manual 981, also a Utah native, those are some choice roads, luckily I recognized most of them, thanks for sorting out my coming weekend plans!
@mechanics718
@mechanics718 4 жыл бұрын
Proud to say I got a 981 S a couple months ago! Where can I cop Todd's jacket?
@stonethecrows5334
@stonethecrows5334 4 жыл бұрын
I love my 987S, Race headers, sports exhaust, GT3 throttle body and plenum+tune absolutely magic. Throw in an extended sump and third radiator, H&R lowered springs, wheel spacers and its the most engaging car sensible money can buy. Sounds fantastic, just like a cup car.
@SandeepSingh-tp8xh
@SandeepSingh-tp8xh 4 жыл бұрын
how did you get rid of the CEL? if you have no cats?
@fredrikholmstrom3034
@fredrikholmstrom3034 4 жыл бұрын
Loved the commentary and the photography but I really struggled to follow which generation Cayman you were discussing.
@simonhill2668
@simonhill2668 4 жыл бұрын
Ditto
@bryanmiller2023
@bryanmiller2023 4 жыл бұрын
My thought exactly... Porsches numbering scheme and the fact that all three generations look so similar made it tough to tell which generation you were in each time you jumped to the next car. I need to watch it again and pay more attention to the details!
@briandeaton3550
@briandeaton3550 4 жыл бұрын
Great topic and video. I'm a Corvette enthusiast but am most likely to cross shop a Cayman.
@johnbris5
@johnbris5 4 жыл бұрын
I have driven all three and agree entirely with Todd's conclusion. I actually had a 981 GTS and sold it to buy a a 987.2 Black Edition with the same engine as the R. The 987.2 is way better than the 981. And the 718's driving feel and suspension are also much better than that of the 981.
@1ROCKY89
@1ROCKY89 4 жыл бұрын
how does the 987.1 differ from the 987.2? Is that the 2006 compared to the 2009?
@divimport2
@divimport2 4 жыл бұрын
@@1ROCKY89 9A1 engine with direct injection; more power & torque, bulletproof. The 987.2 introduced the PDK as well, and updated electronics, LED DRLs and taillights.
@PaulStewart28
@PaulStewart28 4 жыл бұрын
Stunning cinematography. Well done gentleman.
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